[Q] Stock 4.4.4 vs CM 11 - Sony Xperia ZL

Hello folks,
Now that Xperia ZL has got official stock 4.4.4, what is the advantage in comparison with CM11 ?
Cheers

the a lot of problems that CM11 and others bring to your divice. That the great difference

Definitely stock. for the features and of course for the stable one. CM11 ZL is receiving only nightlies nothing more. hell lot of bugs. especially sound quality is unbearable. With stock 4.4.4 i dont even have plans of rooting

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[Q] Stable version of CM11 - When?

Hi Everyone
I've just recently lost my flashing-custom-ROMs virginity (CM10.2 @ S4 Mini LTE) and now I'm hooked , so I just have a simple question.
When can I/we expect a stable version of CM11 to be released?
As I haven’t found any official information on this I’m aware that we are talking best estimates!
Thanks in advance!
It is impolite to ask for ETA, so please don't do it anymore.
Also, in most cases it is impossible to answer that question. It will be released when it will be released, that's the best answer you can get.
EdgeRunner said:
... When can I/we expect a stable version of CM11 to be released? ...
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Check out the Wiki article about CyanogenMod ...
[You'll have to Google it as i cannot yet post a link]
Apparently 4.2 Jellybean gets CM 10.1, 4.3 Jellybean gets CM 10.2, and 4.4 KitKat gets CM 11.
I am a noob at this too, but it looks to me like we have to wait for KitKat? My S4 mini has 4.2.2 JellyBean.
Well, I dunno about official cm11 but I can tell you now that the nightlies are pretty damn stable. Been running for at least 2 months without any force reboots or force closes. Managed to get nearly 9 days on battery without a recharge. It's ridiculously fast as well, I get no lag at all.
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Pros/Cons of Custom Roms and Kernels?

I've been thinking about Custom Roms for a while now, and whether or not to go down the route again. I've had previous (awful) experience with ROM's and my old N7000.
What I'm basically looking for is someone to advise me, give me the advantages and disadvantages so I can weigh out whether or not it's worth it. Stay stock and wait for the L release, or just play with the custom roms... PA/CM mainly.
I know custom roms are often (usually) unstable, and can be troublesome at times. Unexpected boot loops was a huge issue for me back in the Samsung day.
I've never known much about kernels. I learnt a bit about them in the ICS/GB days because of the huge problem with hard bricking on a wide scale. Are there any issues with today's kernels?
If anyone could help a guy out, that'd be great!
Firstly you need to check if you can unlock your bootloader. I CANT so i must use stock based firmwares. Stock are really good and kitslim based on stock is the best stick based ROM. If you want cm Roma you need to know that in cm there is no Sony features some of then are already ported if i good remember in Sony cross development. Everyone need to w8 for L relaese cm users too. I think first cm 12 will be in January so as stock Sony should be in january /february i think that cm users of xperia devices are happy with cm and i dont hear about loops or random reboots. Xperias devices are quite different than Samsung so you need to check to know
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Hi
I've just flashed latest CM11 Mod Rom to my Z1 Compact and reporting no problems. Its pretty straight forward and well worth it, gives you complete control and no bloatware or google draining your battery! Just read through posts carefully before embarking, let me know if you need any help.
Chris.
One disadvantage is that the camera quality is not comparable to stock rom
Interesting, how would you compare the stock rom camera quality with cyanogenmod camera resolution? Just ive not noticed any difference thats all. Thanx.
Most custom ROMS have some bugs, which are non-existent on stock ones.
Manufacturers somehow implement some proprietary features, which we find useful. However, we can't implement such.
Overall, custom ROMS are a great addition of getting everything from device's hardware.
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cjh-75 said:
Interesting, how would you compare the stock rom camera quality with cyanogenmod camera resolution? Just ive not noticed any difference thats all. Thanx.
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Try doing a photo on good ligthing and low lighting, stock rom outruns AOSP based rom(CM11,Omni,carbonrom etc.) in terms of quality. The sharpness and details are gone. Images from non stock roms looks grainy
Ah I see. Im new to custom ROMs, so still finding out how it all works but have flashed 2 phones with success! Main reason I bought my Xperia Z1 Compact was the camera as I take a lot of shots, so this is of some concern to me. Am thinking of loading a stock ROM back on maybe, do you know of the best one thats unbranded and without google services etc? Does it overwrite the existing one as think I would want to start from fresh? Thanks.

Best Stock Lollipop ROM

So my Dad decided he doesn't like his G3 - I know, he's crazy. So we have decided to swap phones. I had a Nexus 5 which I loved. I'm looking to get the G3 as close to stock lollipop as I possibly can as my Fun Prevention Officer (wife) has the Gold G3 and I'm less than impressed with the standard ROM.
I've had a look through the threads here searching about for a stock ROM and it seems there are plenty available but I wanted to get some opinions on what you guys think is the most stable.
I'm well up on ADB, rooting etc so I don't need help with the method, just your opinions on the 'best' , most stable closest to stock Lollipop ROM.
Cheers dudes and dudesses.
finalbillybong said:
So my Dad decided he doesn't like his G3 - I know, he's crazy. So we have decided to swap phones. I had a Nexus 5 which I loved. I'm looking to get the G3 as close to stock lollipop as I possibly can as my Fun Prevention Officer (wife) has the Gold G3 and I'm less than impressed with the standard ROM.
I've had a look through the threads here searching about for a stock ROM and it seems there are plenty available but I wanted to get some opinions on what you guys think is the most stable.
I'm well up on ADB, rooting etc so I don't need help with the method, just your opinions on the 'best' , most stable closest to stock Lollipop ROM.
Cheers dudes and dudesses.
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Hello, I'm new on the formus but I have tried several stock rom versions for my variant (D855). I think that Cloudy G 2.1 is one of the best lollipop stock rom version you can try. It is updated to the latest (20F) version, it's debloated and bumped and it is pretty stable (the only bug I know is the bluetooth issues present in all stock versions):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/development/rom-cloudyg3-1-0-t2917467
Finally keep in mind that we have a Official CM 12 build in the Android Original development section that works flawless in case you like (much more like AOSP).
straim said:
Hello, I'm new on the formus but I have tried several stock rom versions for my variant (D855). I think that Cloudy G 2.1 is one of the best lollipop stock rom version you can try. It is updated to the latest (20F) version, it's debloated and bumped and it is pretty stable (the only bug I know is the bluetooth issues present in all stock versions):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/development/rom-cloudyg3-1-0-t2917467
Finally keep in mind that we have a Official CM 12 build in the Android Original development section that works flawless in case you like (much more like AOSP).
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Thanks straim. I'm looking for something closer to the Nexus 5 really. I saw the Official CM12 had been released but wasn't sure on the stability being a nightly.
finalbillybong said:
Thanks straim. I'm looking for something closer to the Nexus 5 really. I saw the Official CM12 had been released but wasn't sure on the stability being a nightly.
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If you want stock close to LG: Cloudy: stable
If you want stock close to "naked" android: CM12: I would not use it as a daily driver yet, but i'll sure do in a more stable state.
Thanks raptor. I guess stability would come above stock Android in my priorities list. I'll give Cloudy a whirl...
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Thanks raptor. I guess stability would come above stock Android in my priorities list. I'll give Cloudy a whirl...
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That's for sure, CM is fantastic but they need a bit of time to make it good. Cloudy is a good transition phase. Guess LG's rom is pretty good.
There are other Roms in the dev section, but I haven't really looked at them.
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That's for sure, CM is fantastic but they need a bit of time to make it good. Cloudy is a good transition phase. Guess LG's rom is pretty good.
There are other Roms in the dev section, but I haven't really looked at them.
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Yeah I had a glance through them.
Cloudy it is then. At least until CM gets an M release out....
Thanks again all.
straim said:
the only bug I know is the bluetooth issues present in all stock versions.
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Can anyone tell me more about this? I have G Watch R. Is this going to cause me problems?
finalbillybong said:
Can anyone tell me more about this? I have G Watch R. Is this going to cause me problems?
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The bug causes audio glitches and sometimes is necessary to unlink an link the device to avoid issues like battery drain. You can seek something like "Bluetooth|car audio issues" in general or q&a forums for more information.
Ps: I use cm 12 as daily driver.
What about for me that I use wireless headphones, will that affect me?
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I recommend you stick with stock roms (Cloudy or ChupaChups), as the AOSP roms like CyanogenMod have dreadful camera software and quality. It's like you're back from LG G3 to a Nexus 4 camera, it's s**t! Sound volumes are also lower on AOSP, has something to do with drivers i think... But for the rest, cyanogenmod is stable, quick, light on the battery, and real pleasing to the eyes as it's one of the best looking roms on the market with themes support and all... But if you want to make the best out of your G3, use Cloudy G3 2.1. It's as fast and light on resources as cyanogenmod 12, as good looking if you flash the Lollipop theme (link on the first page of Cloudy thread), but you get to keep the amazing camera quality and sound volumes of the stock rom. After 2 months of flashing and testing roms on my G3, i can say, Cloudy has the winner here, hands down!
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I recommend you stick with stock roms (Cloudy or ChupaChups), as the AOSP roms like CyanogenMod have dreadful camera software and quality. It's like you're back from LG G3 to a Nexus 4 camera, it's s**t! Sound volumes are also lower on AOSP, has something to do with drivers i think... But for the rest, cyanogenmod is stable, quick, light on the battery, and real pleasing to the eyes as it's one of the best looking roms on the market with themes support and all... But if you want to make the best out of your G3, use Cloudy G3 2.1. It's as fast and light on resources as cyanogenmod 12, as good looking if you flash the Lollipop theme (link on the first page of Cloudy thread), but you get to keep the amazing camera quality and sound volumes of the stock rom. After 2 months of flashing and testing roms on my G3, i can say, Cloudy has the winner here, hands down!
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Thanks! What does ChupaChups have that cloudy doesn't?
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So what's the latest on Cyanogenmod? Is it stable yet? I used it for a while a few months ago but would have random locks and have to do a battery pull.
I have Cloudy 2.2 at the moment but honestly, I'm not a fan. I really want CM12 but only if it's stable.
What's the verdict?
can't go past full stock ( regular updates with http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/development/stock-t2961073 ), and G3 TweaksBox. works like a charm even though TweaksBox and the Xposed framework are both in alpha
Does someone compare the last versions of Cloudy and Chupa Chups ?

[Q] Which Rom Is STABLE enough to daily driver for our maguro?

Hi all Gnex MAGURO owner.
I just want to share my new setup on my Gnex.
For all the gnex roms i flashed from 4.3 to 5.1, all i can say that some KK are more stable than LP. on my experience so far now on LP Zmod is the most simple LP rom but after a wekk i got Lags and slow response.
so far now you can have SlimLP and RR if you want to have an LP which will last for months.
But if you want to stick on KK better have CM coz until now CM has always updates for our maguro also you can have SlimLP build 9 if you want to exprience SlimPie.
but if you WANT to have MORE STABLE better have the stock (last google support) which im using now for 2weeks and its battery life is awesome, i can play music for 4-5hrs, play game for 3-4hrs, surfing for 3-4hrs.
so now which will you want to flash? LP? KK? JBstock?
Akosijasper said:
Hi all Gnex MAGURO owner.
I just want to share my new setup on my Gnex.
For all the gnex roms i flashed from 4.3 to 5.1, all i can say that some KK are more stable than LP. on my experience so far now on LP Zmod is the most simple LP rom but after a wekk i got Lags and slow response.
so far now you can have SlimLP and RR if you want to have an LP which will last for months.
But if you want to stick on KK better have CM coz until now CM has always updates for our maguro also you can have SlimLP build 9 if you want to exprience SlimPie.
but if you WANT to have MORE STABLE better have the stock (last google support) which im using now for 2weeks and its battery life is awesome, i can play music for 4-5hrs, play game for 3-4hrs, surfing for 3-4hrs.
so now which will you want to flash? LP? KK? JBstock?
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i tried nearly everyrom from ICS to LP and have to say this is the best WHICH WORKS FOR ME:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...m-android-revolution-hd-11-0-quality-t1361348
+ the latest fancy kernel.
After i did flash these i have seen how good the nexus is still.
every other rom just lagged and was slow after usage.
this rom i use for 2 weeks and its the best so far.
@saprer, the last message in that thread is from 2013, which makes me doubt if it is up-to-date. Thanks anyway for your opinion.
@Akosijasper, are you getting Google Play Services FCs lately with AOSP KK?.
Zmod is very stable, and good for daily use. I reach almost 3 hours of display with an old (3years) Gnexus and all work very well
Master94ga said:
Zmod is very stable, and good for daily use. I reach almost 3 hours of display with an old (3years) Gnexus and all work very well
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I've been using ZMod for almost two months. After that, I went back to KK because of the laggish behaviour.
In any case Ziyan has done a great job.
saprer said:
i tried nearly everyrom from ICS to LP and have to say this is the best WHICH WORKS FOR ME:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...m-android-revolution-hd-11-0-quality-t1361348
+ the latest fancy kernel.
After i did flash these i have seen how good the nexus is still.
every other rom just lagged and was slow after usage.
this rom i use for 2 weeks and its the best so far.
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well i also tried that one but i doubt about it coz its been so long and no update
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@saprer, the last message in that thread is from 2013, which makes me doubt if it is up-to-date. Thanks anyway for your opinion.
@Akosijasper, are you getting Google Play Services FCs lately with AOSP KK?.
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yeah so i quit Aosp stock KK
Master94ga said:
Zmod is very stable, and good for daily use. I reach almost 3 hours of display with an old (3years) Gnexus and all work very well
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sergialess said:
I've been using ZMod for almost two months. After that, I went back to KK because of the laggish behaviour.
In any case Ziyan has done a great job.
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well at first i'm using Zmod and its one of my favorite ROM bug its getting laggy same with Unofficial CM 12.1 so far on me RR on its latest build is okay but im not that sure how long will it last that it won get laggy on the other hand SlimLp is also good coz its miscellaneous batt drain is gone now but for me all LP has slow response with takes 2-4sec before an app will open. then when using LP those HD games or big size games are getting laggy and slow response.
to all sorry for making this thread its just i'm to concern on our maguro yeah its 3yrs old on the market but still i love this phone.
I think there is nothing to apologize. This thread is OK at this precise moment because some of us are getting a big trouble finding the right rom for our beloved gnexes.
LP = Laggish, memory always exhausted, not responsive, not performant, not a good user experience.
KK = Problems with Google Play Services.
JB = 4.3 too old?.
Solution: get a new sexy phone! xD
Is this me or this should go on Q&A?
Stock 4.1.2 best rom and stock kernel I use 2 weeks and no problem
The problem with 4.3 roms and older are exactly that, they are old. Our Gnex runs KitKat extremelly well as AOSP KitKat proves it so there's no reason to be on 4.3 or older for performance alone.
Let's hope for some love on KitKat roms that solve the PlayServices force close (and maybe the battery drain since my phone is keeping its "Deep Sleep" state for over 94% in 3 days without charging since I'm not using it and it's just laying on the desk but the battery still drains really fast). I'm seing like 5% drain evey hour even with those stats. If I use the phone the battery drains like 10% hour so the "sleeping" is very lousy.
Well, maybe with the optimized "Lollipop" in Android M we can get something off the new system on our Gnex, but for now, 4.4.4 with some love in terms of Google Play Services bugfix and battery draining would be perfect. Please note that I'm not demanding anything, I'm just stating what I believe would be very stable in our phone and what I would like to use. I also believe the majority of gnex owners already have a second phone and like to have the latest software in their phones (and may not mind the lag and abuse of RAM since they don't use the phone for continuous time). But for the ones who still have this one as their trophy in the pocket, I believe that wether having KitKat running well or Lollipop running almost well, we would prefer KitKat.
Hi,
for me http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-nexus/development/rom-unofficial-cyanogenmod-11-t3026583
Is one of the best, very stable and very fast and support f2fs very well, unfortunately the autor, "sgspluss", not updating anymore, and there is also the problem with play services in common with all KK roms. Until GOOGLE resolve this issue.
but the rom i posted is 4.3 and based on latest ROM aviable.
i dont know but it was the best experience i had: no lagg no stutter good battery and performance
I'm using Official CM 11 by Ziyan ATM, and the Google Play Services FCs are gone. Not as fast as other KK roms, but hey, everything is working
sergialess said:
I'm using Official CM 11 by Ziyan ATM, and the Google Play Services FCs are gone. Not as fast as other KK roms, but hey, everything is working
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I was about to comment the same. I'm on nightlys, everything works. The problem with CM is once you start updating the nightlys it tends to get very sluggish, I don't know why. It does look like the best choice for now.
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Greenify will surely save a lot of performance if correctly used. I'm on Slimkat 4.4.4 and in 6 months no lag at all
stuccamelo said:
Hi,
for me http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-nexus/development/rom-unofficial-cyanogenmod-11-t3026583
Is one of the best, very stable and very fast and support f2fs very well, unfortunately the autor, "sgspluss", not updating anymore, and there is also the problem with play services in common with all KK roms. Until GOOGLE resolve this issue.
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yeah i've been with that rom and i love that rom but google play services problem and sudden reboots.
Rayaxe said:
The problem with 4.3 roms and older are exactly that, they are old. Our Gnex runs KitKat extremelly well as AOSP KitKat proves it so there's no reason to be on 4.3 or older for performance alone.
Let's hope for some love on KitKat roms that solve the PlayServices force close (and maybe the battery drain since my phone is keeping its "Deep Sleep" state for over 94% in 3 days without charging since I'm not using it and it's just laying on the desk but the battery still drains really fast). I'm seing like 5% drain evey hour even with those stats. If I use the phone the battery drains like 10% hour so the "sleeping" is very lousy.
Well, maybe with the optimized "Lollipop" in Android M we can get something off the new system on our Gnex, but for now, 4.4.4 with some love in terms of Google Play Services bugfix and battery draining would be perfect. Please note that I'm not demanding anything, I'm just stating what I believe would be very stable in our phone and what I would like to use. I also believe the majority of gnex owners already have a second phone and like to have the latest software in their phones (and may not mind the lag and abuse of RAM since they don't use the phone for continuous time). But for the ones who still have this one as their trophy in the pocket, I believe that wether having KitKat running well or Lollipop running almost well, we would prefer KitKat.
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well said my friend. yeah your right with it KK has this problems right now.
Thanks for participating for this thread and sorry for making this thread i'm just wondering what would be your point of view for our maguro. Yeah some of us has their 2nd phones already but its just so awful that living this legacy phone that sudden. Some of us uses this phone as their daily driver and still using it cause its still working and not enough money to buy one. I'm just concern to those people who's still using this legacy phone that is why i made this thread.
LP right now is not that good enough for our gnex
KK also have this googleplay services problem and the fast drain battery
on JB its too old (yeah your right) but some says it is more stable on its battery life and its ram (without exposed) the problem for JB is the apps of the those huge games that may cause slow on gaming.
Akosijasper said:
Hi all Gnex MAGURO owner.
I just want to share my new setup on my Gnex.
For all the gnex roms i flashed from 4.3 to 5.1, all i can say that some KK are more stable than LP. on my experience so far now on LP Zmod is the most simple LP rom but after a wekk i got Lags and slow response.
so far now you can have SlimLP and RR if you want to have an LP which will last for months.
But if you want to stick on KK better have CM coz until now CM has always updates for our maguro also you can have SlimLP build 9 if you want to exprience SlimPie.
but if you WANT to have MORE STABLE better have the stock (last google support) which im using now for 2weeks and its battery life is awesome, i can play music for 4-5hrs, play game for 3-4hrs, surfing for 3-4hrs.
so now which will you want to flash? LP? KK? JBstock?
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if you want to use stock ROM,I think the stock 4.3 with stock kernel or fancy r43 kernel is the best, if you want to use custom ROM I suggest you shiny 4.4.2 or OmniROM larest builds with franco r398 or fancy r60 kernels, I had used OmniROM with franco r398 kernel for 8months before I give my lovely gnex to my father.
aliesz said:
if you want to use stock ROM,I think the stock 4.3 with stock kernel or fancy r43 kernel is the best, if you want to use custom ROM I suggest you shiny 4.4.2 or OmniROM larest builds with franco r398 or fancy r60 kernels, I had used OmniROM with franco r398 kernel for 8months before I give my lovely gnex to my father.
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can you give me a link for it? i mean the omni + franco?

Good alternative to CM11 (stable/M) ?

Hi guys/girls,
So about a year ago i got tired of being stuck on the stock 4.1.2 version (Euro did not got the 4.3 update, thanks a lot Samsung >:x ) and finally hop on the Cyanogenmod wagon.... and now i'm on the latest CM11 M version, that is pretty nice but i was wondering if there is another custom ROM out there that does a better job.
So i'm looking for stability 1st and performance with features and personalization in the same level of the ones in CM11... also if it's less "battery intensive" the better.
Does anyone, with experience with an alternative, can point me a good one? Please no Betas or unstable/bugs versions.
Thanks in advance.

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