Aside from seeder which made it slightly smoother, im wondering if anyone has tried tweaking the UI or CPU/GPU to gain performance in our little devices. ik there are a lot of overclocking software on the market and maybe some of you have had results.
Not precisely an overclock but Trickster Mod helps with GPU governor set to performance and Kernel Tuner with all four CPUs set to Interactive.
Also two apps called Digitizer Booster and Performance Booster both help a bit.
I found the files that need alterations,and have the directory in my thread,but they can't remain changed without unlocking the bootloader.
Someone please find a way to get unlocked bootloader access on Fire TV so we can have better everything with the v66 Adreno driver and the KitKat upgrade plus overclocking access to make the GPU go up to 450-500Mhz.
Yes!
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retroben said:
Not precisely an overclock but Trickster Mod helps with GPU governor set to performance and Kernel Tuner with all four CPUs set to Interactive.
Also two apps called Digitizer Booster and Performance Booster both help a bit.
I found the files that need alterations,and have the directory in my thread,but they can't remain changed without unlocking the bootloader.
Someone please find a way to get unlocked bootloader access on Fire TV so we can have better everything with the v66 Adreno driver and the KitKat upgrade plus overclocking access to make the GPU go up to 450-500Mhz.
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I wonder if we could put together some init.d scripts and have them executed by SManager at boot in the interim.
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I wonder if we could put together some init.d scripts and have them executed by SManager at boot in the interim.
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There is a thread for link2sd (i think thats what its called) and it hijacks a script that is automatically run on boot. You could probably put something in there.
Awesome!
Can you guys quantify the benefits? I don't feel the need for OC the GPU or get 4 cores running all time as the box is snappy and fast.
But I'm NOT a gamer...just Netflix+SPMC - both flawless so far.
My only annoyance is the remote...sometimes it takes multiple clicks per button press.
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Can you guys quantify the benefits? I don't feel the need for OC the GPS of get 4 cores running all time as the box is snappy and fast.
But I'm NOT a gamer...just Netflix+SPMC - both flawless so far.
My only annoyance is the remote...sometimes it takes multiple clicks per button press.
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you really have not tried the nuc's. remotes on those are hideous.
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you really have not tried the nuc's. remotes on those are hideous.
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Then I'm glad I got the same functionality (and some of the problems) in only 84$
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Hi all I'm fairly new to these forums, although I have been watching from afar for quite some while now!
I have been trying out custom roms and various kernels and was wondering how do I go about overclocking my device? Only reason I am asking is because I was checking out benckmark results for other devices and noticed some can be particularly high.
Any insight would be most appreciated!
I wouldnt try any overclocking on the HOX because of the heat issues. A more safe and stable way of doing it is changing the govenor of the kernel or forcing cores online. I think you can use core control (in the apps and themes section) to change core behaviour and system tuner to change govenor.
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I have now installed core control. Got to admit it is nice having the option to save a bit more power. How much as an estimate do each of cores use anyway just out of interest?
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I have now installed core control. Got to admit it is nice having the option to save a bit more power. How much as an estimate do each of cores use anyway just out of interest?
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you can download an app called tegrastats to find out more but all you should know is this. once you activate the corecontrol and depending what app you use you should be fine. if i was you i would also use no-frills cpu app. that way you can underclock and would save you more juice
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you can download an app called tegrastats to find out more but all you should know is this. once you activate the corecontrol and depending what app you use you should be fine. if i was you i would also use no-frills cpu app. that way you can underclock and would save you more juice
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Fantastic! Many thanks for the advice. I have now installed no-frills cpu, and started to tinker around with the settings. Could I ask as I am still fairly new to some of this, when I first went on to the settings both maximum and minimum were set to 1.5 GHz (Not sure if it was just saying this on the app or not or if these are the actual settings) but I would guess this would use a lot more power am I right?
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Fantastic! Many thanks for the advice. I have now installed no-frills cpu, and started to tinker around with the settings. Could I ask as I am still fairly new to some of this, when I first went on to the settings both maximum and minimum were set to 1.5 GHz (Not sure if it was just saying this on the app or not or if these are the actual settings) but I would guess this would use a lot more power am I right?
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yes you are right. put the min frequency to say 200 or 300 mhz and then press apply on boot and then reboot and you should be fine
I was wondering on how exactly I do this? I looked through and seen people talking about it, but not how to do it. Can someone explain to me what it does, and how to do it?
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I was wondering on how exactly I do this? I looked through and seen people talking about it, but not how to do it. Can someone explain to me what it does, and how to do it?
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There are actually several ways to do this. The most popular of which are to have a rooted rom, install a separate application and use that application to modify your cpu speed. The more popular applications to do this are:
SetCPU
ROM Toolbox
ROM Toolbox light
I've used all of these and if I could suggest one to you, I would say ROM Toolbox, because it gives you a lot of other tools that SetCPU does not. HOWEVER, I find that in regards to overclocking/underclocking and setting profiles, SetCPU is much more handy and offers more customization.
VIDEO on overclocking and profiles with SetCPU
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There are actually several ways to do this. The most popular of which are to have a rooted rom, install a separate application and use that application to modify your cpu speed. The more popular applications to do this are:
SetCPU
ROM Toolbox
ROM Toolbox light
I've used all of these and if I could suggest one to you, I would say ROM Toolbox, because it gives you a lot of other tools that SetCPU does not. HOWEVER, I find that in regards to overclocking/underclocking and setting profiles, SetCPU is much more handy and offers more customization.
VIDEO on overclocking and profiles with SetCPU
VIDEO on ROM Toolbox Pro
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Is there any certain configuration that you find best? Thanks for all the links and suggestions also!
System tuner pro is also nice. There is no " right" settings. Your phone might not like my settings profile. They are all different. I do however under clock. I see no lag on cm9 beta1. I use a Max CPU of 1ghz. I also under volt everything by -25 because -50 on Evert step crashes my phone. Yours may like it. Just remember do not push the set on boot button until you are sure your phone can handle the new setting.
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Is there any certain configuration that you find best? Thanks for all the links and suggestions also!
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It is pretty much a try what works. I find that over clocking is nice for certain things, but I like to have a long battery life as well, so I have mine set up so that the CPU is usually running ondemand 800-200 and for certain programs, ondemand 1200-500 and when the screen is turned off it is ondemand 500-200. I haven't had any problems and my battery life is generally very nice. Everyone's phone is different though.
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Just flashed a new ROM today (OneOfAKindV11 by ipromeh) and gaming works really smooth even when its clocked at 1.6GHz... I heard Disabling CPU Rendering will make gaming more faster... Last time, when i tried it, game lags alot and overall performance is bad...
Can anyone tell me if the tweak is good or not?
Maybe it's good disabling CPU Rendering on newest CPU with newest GPU...But our GPU needs an additional support from the CPU
So its not good to disable it even with cm10 alpha 7? Just leave it as is?
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Disabling CPU rendering diables the CPU rendering for the User Interface and forces the GPU to do it. So it affects the launcher, browser and scrolling but not games. For JB it´s not needed because of project butter which makes it already smooth.
JB also dosen´t use the exact same drivers like ICS, so what gives you a performance boost in CM9 doesn´t have to do the same in CM10.
I install seeder for disable CPU rendering... But I have problem with flash when I see flash video (ex: youtube)...
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I install seeder for disable CPU rendering... But I have problem with flash when I see flash video (ex: youtube)...
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That´s interessting.... does the problem disappear if you re-enable CPU rendering? Also are you using CM9 or CM10?
For me there is no problem in watching youtube after disabling CPU rendering in CM9, but must agree that in both ROMs some flash videos are not displayed correctly. This is more related to the GPU drivers in CM9 and CM10 and the missing flash support in ICS and JB.
There are sites where the flash videos are not displayed correctly in CM9 and CM10, no matter you disable CPU rendering or not, but at least youtube is working well in CM9 after disabling CPU rendering. Can´t tell how about CM10, but CM10 needs both for project butter to work.
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That´s interessting.... does the problem disappear if you re-enable CPU rendering? Also are you using CM9 or CM10?
For me there is no problem in watching youtube after disabling CPU rendering in CM9, but must agree that in both ROMs some flash videos are not displayed correctly. This is more related to the GPU drivers in CM9 and CM10 and the missing flash support in ICS and JB.
There are sites where the flash videos are not displayed correctly in CM9 and CM10, no matter you disable CPU rendering or not, but at least youtube is working well in CM9 after disabling CPU rendering. Can´t tell how about CM10, but CM10 needs both for project butter to work.
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I running CM10. And I was disable it, but I can't find the different.
Thanks for help me.
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I install seeder for disable CPU rendering... But I have problem with flash when I see flash video (ex: youtube)...
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Seeder is *NOT* for disabling CPU rendering.
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Seeder is *NOT* for disabling CPU rendering.
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True dat...
Too much flashing! I'm blinded on my Galaxy W!
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Seeder is *NOT* for disabling CPU rendering.
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Ohhh. Thanks for clarify this. Never dealed with seeder so am not aware atm what it is for.
So if someone is saying it disabled CPU rendering as well, I take this information as to be true.
@arya_ruby: Your postings are very irritating. In the one hand your a claiming seeders is disabling CPU rendering and this is causing problems with youtube, in the other hand you are saying you disabled it but can´t (find?) (or see) a difference.
So what?
First you should inform what seeder is for and what´s doing on your phone before making conflicting claims.
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Ohhh. Thanks for clarify this. Never dealed with seeder so am not aware atm what it is for.
So if someone is saying it disabled CPU rendering as well, I take this information as to be true.
@arya_ruby: Your postings are very irritating. In the one hand your a claiming seeders is disabling CPU rendering and this is causing problems with youtube, in the other hand you are saying you disabled it but can´t (find?) (or see) a difference.
So what?
First you should inform what seeder is for and what´s doing on your phone before making conflicting claims.
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Since I was slightly involved in the development of Seeder, let me give some information:
Seeder's purpose is to quickly fill up the entropy pool used by /dev/random and /dev/urandom. If this pool gets empty, lags will happen as the kernel interrupts things (including, blocking multithreading temporarily) to fill up the pool. With Seeder running, it periodically fills up the pool to prevent it from ever draining completely.
Some people swear that installing Seeder makes their phones run smoother, because the kernel never has to trigger 'urgent refilling', which as I mentioned before, temporarily disables multithreading.
However, things learnt during the (sometimes heated) discussion about how Seeder does its magic, undoubtedly have trickled down to kernel makers; many have identified the possible bottlenecks where lags happen, and many actively took steps to prevent such situation from happening. Thus, as time goes by, the improvement Seeder brought originally gets less and less significant, even to the point that it's no longer perceptible.
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Since I was slightly involved in the development of Seeder, let me give some information:
Seeder's purpose is to quickly fill up the entropy pool used by /dev/random and /dev/urandom. If this pool gets empty, lags will happen as the kernel interrupts things (including, blocking multithreading temporarily) to fill up the pool. With Seeder running, it periodically fills up the pool to prevent it from ever draining completely.
Some people swear that installing Seeder makes their phones run smoother, because the kernel never has to trigger 'urgent refilling', which as I mentioned before, temporarily disables multithreading.
However, things learnt during the (sometimes heated) discussion about how Seeder does its magic, undoubtedly have trickled down to kernel makers; many have identified the possible bottlenecks where lags happen, and many actively took steps to prevent such situation from happening. Thus, as time goes by, the improvement Seeder brought originally gets less and less significant, even to the point that it's no longer perceptible.
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Sadly, some using Seeders... Some use crossbreeder... Its the same rite?
Too much flashing! I'm blinded on my Galaxy W!
TiTAN-O-One said:
Sadly, some using Seeders... Some use crossbreeder... Its the same rite?
Too much flashing! I'm blinded on my Galaxy W!
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Kinda similar...
Seeder uses rngd, which uses a PRNG.
Crossbreeder uses haveged, which uses a CSPRNG based on a multitude of CPU counters.
From a security point of view, haveged is more secure than rngd. But I can find no way to tune haveged's parameters, so I can't be sure that it won't be triggered at inopportune times.
rngd, OTOH, is much more tunable; the flashable-zip available in the Seeder thread has been tuned by me and @ryuinferno to be less intrusive.
(Just in case anyone is wondering: we had tuned rngd's nice value so it yields to higher-priority processes, tuned its cycle period so that it won't get triggered too frequently, tuned its 'high watermark' to make it return faster, and so on).
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pepoluan said:
Kinda similar...
Seeder uses rngd, which uses a PRNG.
Crossbreeder uses haveged, which uses a CSPRNG based on a multitude of CPU counters.
From a security point of view, haveged is more secure than rngd. But I can find no way to tune haveged's parameters, so I can't be sure that it won't be triggered at inopportune times.
rngd, OTOH, is much more tunable; the flashable-zip available in the Seeder thread has been tuned by me and @ryuinferno to be less intrusive.
(Just in case anyone is wondering: we had tuned rngd's nice value so it yields to higher-priority processes, tuned its cycle period so that it won't get triggered too frequently, tuned its 'high watermark' to make it return faster, and so on).
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But Seeders will Conflict with Crossbreeder rite? I thought its 2 separate tweaks so that we can use both and have NO lags at all ^~^
Too much flashing! I'm blinded on my Galaxy W!
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But Seeders will Conflict with Crossbreeder rite? I thought its 2 separate tweaks so that we can use both and have NO lags at all ^~^
Too much flashing! I'm blinded on my Galaxy W!
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Not conflict, but since both will fill the same entropy pool, why install both and consume valuable RAM and CPU cycles?
There are *no* other purpose of rngd and haveged.
That said, Crossbreeder is not just haveged; there are other tunings that Crossbreeder does in addition to haveged.
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Hi,
Would anyone be kind enough to list a step-by-step process on how to overclock the Note 8.0 using SetCPU? I'm a new user of this app and I'm afraid I may end up doing some irreparable damage to the device.
I am also just curious to see if I can squeeze some more gaming juice from the Note 8.0.
thanks in advance.
jnolaw said:
Hi,
Would anyone be kind enough to list a step-by-step process on how to overclock the Note 8.0 using SetCPU? I'm a new user of this app and I'm afraid I may end up doing some irreparable damage to the device.
I am also just curious to see if I can squeeze some more gaming juice from the Note 8.0.
thanks in advance.
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I was going to post a link to a setCPU guide, but its no longer available
Id only push the CPU a little. In order to gain real gaming perfomance increases you need to push the GPU, but in order to do that you will need a kernel that supports it.
I only received my tablet last night and wont be rooting it until the weekend so cant say what settings ill be using yet. my aim is to attempt to overclock slightly and undervolt where I can...
You're not going to break it with SetCPU. If you overclock too much, the system will become unstable, then just back off. Also, the system will shut itself off well before any temperature possible of causing permanent damage was reached.
SetCPU has an option to create a recovery-flashable zip file, which resets the CPU settings to default. I would absolutely take this precaution, as I've had to resort to it on my old HTC Flyer tablet (became unstable, and bootlooped). As long as you select this option, you're pretty safe.
Other than that, just follow the basic rule of overclocking any computer, and push the clock up one or 2 increments at a time, then test for a few hours to see if the tablet is stable under various usage conditions. Repeat until you've either reached a desirable clock speed, or encounter instabilities.
Also, as you may already be aware, higher than "stock" CPU clock steps are normally not available unless you flash a custom kernel.
The trickster app supports GPU overclock on Civato's kernel.
If you're looking to push the GPU that's the way to go.
Thanks for the valuable inputs to all.
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The trickster app supports GPU overclock on Civato's kernel.
If you're looking to push the GPU that's the way to go.
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Does the Trickster app allow for senario clock settings. Ie. underclock the CPU on screen off or if battery is bellow a certain percentage?
I may have to switch from setCPU to it if it has the same settings and more...
I touched some no frills cpu control settings and now my benchmark results are about 19000-22000 and it used to be like 24000 i tried changing the rom and all that stuff if someone can give me the stock governator and all frequencys and that stuff it would be helpful.. Thanks i need help i dont know what to do
Now i cant do any better than 23000
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Now i cant do any better than 23000
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Firstly, I assume by the size score that you are using Antutututu. If so then you always get variance in the scores, and yes it can be 4k difference.
Next, I'm gonna bet that you are seeing thermal throttling, where the device is turning off 2 of the cores due to heat.
I've only noticed this behaviour recently myself. It's a real pain in the arse. I've downloaded trinity kernel app to get around the problem. In his app you can turn off thermal throttling and force the two other Cores to stay on.
This isn't a permanent fix though as the settings don't want to stick for some reason that is beyond me.
Next, is there no reset to default in no frills cpu app ?
Or you can uninstall no frills and make sure you delete any folders off your sd card, then either reflash your rom or you could even flash AICP kernel.
This should get you back to default.
Finally if you still think it's your settings, you could tell us all the settings you have changed and between the guys on the forum we could tell you what to change back to.
All the best rich
**just had a quick look at no frills on play Store. Looks like there's not loads to alter.
I like interactive governer and row scheduler (as we can't get row I use deadline.)
Min frequency wants to be at 384 and max at 1728.
That's the basics.
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