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I need educated on a few things, I'm concerned with the performance of my phone so I have it rooted and I have installed system panel to monitor things, autokill memory optimizer for ram of course as well as watchdog to alert me if any apps are outta control. Am I crazy for having these or is it a good idea? Also is there anything better I should use rather then what I already have? I just want my phone to run smooth and my battery to last bc I use my phone all day long
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trembly01 said:
I need educated on a few things, I'm concerned with the performance of my phone so I have it rooted and I have installed system panel to monitor things, autokill memory optimizer for ram of course as well as watchdog to alert me if any apps are outta control. Am I crazy for having these or is it a good idea? Also is there anything better I should use rather then what I already have? I just want my phone to run smooth and my battery to last bc I use my phone all day long
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A lot of that is unneeded. I have System Panel, but only use it if I'm having problems with an app. Rarely is there a use for watchdog. On stable ROMs, I've never seen an app get out of control, and rarely on betas. So it justs sits in the background eating battery itself. Also try, using a stock speed, undervolted battery with SetCPU. If I'm trying to make mine last, I have a screen off profile of powersave 384/245, and regular of 700-800ish (I forget)/245 conservative.

PonsAsinorem said:
A lot of that is unneeded. I have System Panel, but only use it if I'm having problems with an app. Rarely is there a use for watchdog. On stable ROMs, I've never seen an app get out of control, and rarely on betas. So it justs sits in the background eating battery itself. Also try, using a stock speed, undervolted battery with SetCPU. If I'm trying to make mine last, I have a screen off profile of powersave 384/245, and regular of 700-800ish (I forget)/245 conservative.
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ok thanks, i installed setcpu and have two profiles set, one for when screen is off with settings similar to yours and another set to when my battery is >30%. could you please tell me what the governor options of on demand, userspace, or performance mean ?? also should i set priority's to anything other then the default 50 % ? thanks for the help

[Q] cm7 and setcpu update

[Q] cm7 cpu setting or setcpu?
well atm i am running an evo 4g with cm7 and i just switched my kernel to savaged zen and it's running great. my phone was rebooting on its own w/ the regular cm7 kernel i think its b/c i was using setcpu and people are saying it messes up cm7.
so i was wondering if anyone knew if i can use setcpu with cm7 and savaged as the kernel or if it's possible to make profiles on the cpu settings on cm7 i saw some1 post somewhere that you can but they never explained how.
p.s. please also visit this thread on battery life

AFirst of all, all SavagedZen kernels are Havs kernels (as far as I remember, I'll double check in a few). Anyway, if you are using a Havs kernel, changing cpu settings is pointless/counteractive. I would either leave the settings alone or switch to a no-havs kernel. You can check in settings>about phone.
EDIT: However, if you must mess with the settings, you can find them in Cyanogenmod Settings under Performance Settings. I don't know of a way to set profiles from that screen, though - only max/min & governor.

hi i have an evo running cm7 and i had setcpu and my phone kept restarting however i looked up setcpu again in the market and it said that they just ran an update to stop the problem with cm7, does this mean that setcpu is better to use than the cpu setting in cm7?

Green_Arrow said:
hi i have an evo running cm7 and i had setcpu and my phone kept restarting however i looked up setcpu again in the market and it said that they just ran an update to stop the problem with cm7, does this mean that setcpu is better to use than the cpu setting in cm7?
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You shouldn't need setcpu use the cpu setting in cm7. They put it there for a reason, those guys are sharp!

I still use setcpu because I like my screen off profiles etc. You should update your setcpu if it prompted you to. I think the latest changes were for cm7/GB.
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Yes but it doesn't let u make profiles unlike setcpu, or does it?
I believe the profiles is definately the most useful
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It says it was for cm7
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I believe the SavageZen governor is a specially tweaked/optimized version of the SmartAss governor.
And if you use Smartass/SavageZen governor, I think it also automatically undervolts when sleeping, and essentially mimics what a screen-off profile in SetCPU would do.

plainjane said:
AFirst of all, all SavagedZen kernels are Havs kernels (as far as I remember, I'll double check in a few). Anyway, if you are using a Havs kernel, changing cpu settings is pointless/counteractive. I would either leave the settings alone or switch to a no-havs kernel. You can check in settings>about phone.
EDIT: However, if you must mess with the settings, you can find them in Cyanogenmod Settings under Performance Settings. I don't know of a way to set profiles from that screen, though - only max/min & governor.
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but how exactly does havs control battery usage? and if i use setcpu wouldn't the havs not function only setcpu will function b/c of priority?

serdna75 said:
I believe the SavageZen governor is a specially tweaked/optimized version of the SmartAss governor.
And if you use Smartass/SavageZen governor, I think it also automatically undervolts when sleeping, and essentially mimics what a screen-off profile in SetCPU would do.
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how do u use Smartass/SavageZen governor?

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how do u use Smartass/SavageZen governor?
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In CM Settings, go to Performance Settings & then CPU settings. Under available governors choose SavagedZen or Smartass. I'd try them out & see which you like the most. I prefer SavagedZen, I seem to get better battery life & performance.

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Thanks, sorry its my 2nd day on this forum

plainjane said:
In CM Settings, go to Performance Settings & then CPU settings. Under available governors choose SavagedZen or Smartass. I'd try them out & see which you like the most. I prefer SavagedZen, I seem to get better battery life & performance.
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thanks atm im using the savagedzen, and jw is autokiller memor optimizer useful now or not?

Green_Arrow said:
thanks atm im using the savagedzen, and jw is autokiller memor optimizer useful now or not?
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Personally I have never needed a task killer while on CM7, so I am going to recommend against it.

Well I had talked to someone else that is using it like that and they said they get amazing battery life
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I say no toward any kind of task killer. First of all, they're pointless. You're killing stuff that isn't using any power to begin with, which then restarts anyway. The task killer itself is actually doing something, running on a set schedule, where as the tasks you're killing are just sitting in memory for faster opening.
It bugs me that even the techs at Sprint recommend it, so every person that doesn't know anything about how their phone works thinks it's necessary. Then in the market for every clock widget you see everyone going "like zomg the clock doesn't keep time your app sucks 1*" because the damn task killer is killing it. That's if they can even figure out how to use it & not complain that it "won't open", despite clear instructions on how to put a widget on your screen.
Sorry, totally went off on a rant there.
But yeah, stay away from task killers & let Android do its job. You don't have to have a ton of memory free for your phone to run perfectly fine under normal usage. I don't notice a difference between 300mb & 50mb free. If you don't worry about it, you won't either.
Free memory does not equal more battery.

plainjane said:
I say no toward any kind of task killer. First of all, they're pointless. You're killing stuff that isn't using any power to begin with, which then restarts anyway. The task killer itself is actually doing something, running on a set schedule, where as the tasks you're killing are just sitting in memory for faster opening.
It bugs me that even the techs at Sprint recommend it, so every person that doesn't know anything about how their phone works thinks it's necessary. Then in the market for every clock widget you see everyone going "like zomg the clock doesn't keep time your app sucks 1*" because the damn task killer is killing it. That's if they can even figure out how to use it & not complain that it "won't open", despite clear instructions on how to put a widget on your screen.
Sorry, totally went off on a rant there.
But yeah, stay away from task killers & let Android do its job. You don't have to have a ton of memory free for your phone to run perfectly fine under normal usage. I don't notice a difference between 300mb & 50mb free. If you don't worry about it, you won't either.
Free memory does not equal more battery.
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but doesn't free memory mean less things are running or even being used just a tad bit which does mean a better battery life?

Green_Arrow said:
but doesn't free memory mean less things are running or even being used just a tad bit which does mean a better battery life?
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No. Memory has nothing to do with battery.
Screen, radios, and CPU use battery and that's about it.
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matt2053 said:
No. Memory has nothing to do with battery.
Screen, radios, and CPU use battery and that's about it.
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So do u agree w/ system panel/juice defender?
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Cpu

Im good on everything else except when it comes the CPU thing. I have no idea what the numbers mean when you set the CPU for some reason. To slow the phones resources when the screen is off right? Can anyone point me to the direction of an app that can do this? What about an app that turns the data off once I turn the screens off. A free one. Thank you and sorry if Im not making sense or sounding dumb
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augoza said:
Im good on everything else except when it comes the CPU thing. I have no idea what the numbers mean when you set the CPU for some reason. To slow the phones resources when the screen is off right? Can anyone point me to the direction of an app that can do this? What about an app that turns the data off once I turn the screens off. A free one. Thank you and sorry if Im not making sense or sounding dumb
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SetCPU can modify the processor speed and allow you to set a profiles. However, you're running Tiamat so if you haven't changed anything your default governor is smartass which has a built in screen off profile of 128min/384max.
As far as turning data off, check out ultimatejuice. There is a free version that is limited in what it does, but it might be worth paying for. Also, for battery saving, check out my EVO link in my sig for some undervolting mods.

You can set the cpu governor with a program called setCPU on the marketplace. You can further control the CPU by flashing another kernel. What ROM are you running? Stock? I would try the netarchy kernel (newest version) if you're running a sense-based ROM.. I've found it has phenomenal battery life (medium use i get 15-20hrs) and I'm overclocked to 1.152ghz.
A program called tasker can also make your data connection go off and back on with the screen. I'm unsure how to set the profile but I do know thats possible. Try looking around here: http://tasker.wikidot.com You should be able to find something about it.
EDIT: Nevermind about netarchy, did not see your signature on your ROM and kernel.

ok, so ur on aosp and tiamat. try changing governer to smartass. will give you much better battery life, and you won't have to worry about 'numbers'.
btw the numbers are the cycles per second, or the speed the cpu works at. i personally underclock to 537 (998 is stock) to save a bunch of battery, and it still runs perfectly fine for me (cm7 with tiamat)

dkdude36 said:
ok, so ur on aosp and tiamat. try changing governer to smartass. will give you much better battery life, and you won't have to worry about 'numbers'.
btw the numbers are the cycles per second, or the speed the cpu works at. i personally underclock to 537 (998 is stock) to save a bunch of battery, and it still runs perfectly fine for me (cm7 with tiamat)
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Governor is smartass by default on Tiamat

-viperboy- said:
Governor is smartass by default on Tiamat
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didn't know that. thanks.

-viperboy- said:
SetCPU can modify the processor speed and allow you to set a profiles. However, you're running Tiamat so if you haven't changed anything your default governor is smartass which has a built in screen off profile of 128min/384max.
As far as turning data off, check out ultimatejuice. There is a free version that is limited in what it does, but it might be worth paying for. Also, for battery saving, check out my EVO link in my sig for some undervolting mods.
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Thanks everybody! ....Viperboy thanks for the info unfortunately I still have lots of questions haha. And yes I already been through all the viper undervoltings, 25 through INSANE! A question I have is with those vipervoltings, I assume they'll show different results depending on which kernel and rom i'm running correct? Plus im pretty much sticking with MIUI....I usually use the 25 vipervolting. Now I'm on tiamat v4.0.3. Are you saying sense I'm using tiamat its already set to smartass, so it'll be unnecessary to use the setcpu app? Also I like savZen to what's the default governor on that? Final question, turning the data off when the screen goes off using ultimatejuice unnecessary if I'm running tiamat? Sorry for the bombarding of questions thanks again
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I think you should not use SetCPU...
Just sayin'....

HipKat said:
I think you should not use SetCPU...
Just sayin'....
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Any reason?
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augoza said:
Thanks everybody! ....Viperboy thanks for the info unfortunately I still have lots of questions haha. And yes I already been through all the viper undervoltings, 25 through INSANE! A question I have is with those vipervoltings, I assume they'll show different results depending on which kernel and rom i'm running correct? Plus im pretty much sticking with MIUI....I usually use the 25 vipervolting. Now I'm on tiamat v4.0.3. Are you saying sense I'm using tiamat its already set to smartass, so it'll be unnecessary to use the setcpu app? Also I like savZen to what's the default governor on that? Final question, turning the data off when the screen goes off using ultimatejuice unnecessary if I'm running tiamat? Sorry for the bombarding of questions thanks again
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Yes, most of the scripts lower by a certain range. So it all depends on the kernel you are running. Some of my scripts (Extreme, Insane, v2 scripts) specify all the voltages so no matter what kernel you're running, it sets the voltages to exact values. If you can go lower than -25 and you're stable, do it!
I find SetCPU unnecessary. I only have it installed because I use it for testing my mods and things, but I that's the only reason. But smartass is good enough for me, no other governors give me as good batter life. Defauly governor on SZ is their own governor (SavagedZen) it's based on interactive, I believe. There is more info on their site.
Tiamat (or any kernel for that matter) don't turn off 3G when the screen is off. You would need an app to do that.
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Any reason?
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Uses a good bit of memory, for one. Two, because the kernels here run pretty good right out of the box.

1, it's useless, and 2, the OP seems like he isn't ready to use it.

HipKat said:
1, it's useless, and 2, the OP seems like he isn't ready to use it.
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Well, it's definitely not useless. It's a great app, I just find no need for it other than testing my mods.

-viperboy- said:
Well, it's definitely not useless. It's a great app, I just find no need for it other than testing my mods.
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That, I totally agree with, but for he average user, few know how to set it correctly and they end up with a placebo effect, or more problems.

HipKat said:
That, I totally agree with, but for he average user, few know how to set it correctly and they end up with a placebo effect, or more problems.
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I couldn't agree more. Setting up a basic screen off profile with a conservative setting is useful, otherwise it actually gets in the way of already built in kernel benefits, actually undoing them in many cases. I stopped using setcpu a while ago and my battery life has not suffered at all.
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-viperboy- said:
Yes, most of the scripts lower by a certain range. So it all depends on the kernel you are running. Some of my scripts (Extreme, Insane, v2 scripts) specify all the voltages so no matter what kernel you're running, it sets the voltages to exact values. If you can go lower than -25 and you're stable, do it!
I find SetCPU unnecessary. I only have it installed because I use it for testing my mods and things, but I that's the only reason. But smartass is good enough for me, no other governors give me as good batter life. Defauly governor on SZ is their own governor (SavagedZen) it's based on interactive, I believe. There is more info on their site.
Tiamat (or any kernel for that matter) don't turn off 3G when the screen is off. You would need an app to do that.
Uses a good bit of memory, for one. Two, because the kernels here run pretty good right out of the box.
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Thanks viper!
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How do I go about overclocking my HTC One X?

Hi all I'm fairly new to these forums, although I have been watching from afar for quite some while now!
I have been trying out custom roms and various kernels and was wondering how do I go about overclocking my device? Only reason I am asking is because I was checking out benckmark results for other devices and noticed some can be particularly high.
Any insight would be most appreciated!

I wouldnt try any overclocking on the HOX because of the heat issues. A more safe and stable way of doing it is changing the govenor of the kernel or forcing cores online. I think you can use core control (in the apps and themes section) to change core behaviour and system tuner to change govenor.

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I have now installed core control. Got to admit it is nice having the option to save a bit more power. How much as an estimate do each of cores use anyway just out of interest?

meleelord said:
I have now installed core control. Got to admit it is nice having the option to save a bit more power. How much as an estimate do each of cores use anyway just out of interest?
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you can download an app called tegrastats to find out more but all you should know is this. once you activate the corecontrol and depending what app you use you should be fine. if i was you i would also use no-frills cpu app. that way you can underclock and would save you more juice

Goku80 said:
you can download an app called tegrastats to find out more but all you should know is this. once you activate the corecontrol and depending what app you use you should be fine. if i was you i would also use no-frills cpu app. that way you can underclock and would save you more juice
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Fantastic! Many thanks for the advice. I have now installed no-frills cpu, and started to tinker around with the settings. Could I ask as I am still fairly new to some of this, when I first went on to the settings both maximum and minimum were set to 1.5 GHz (Not sure if it was just saying this on the app or not or if these are the actual settings) but I would guess this would use a lot more power am I right?

meleelord said:
Fantastic! Many thanks for the advice. I have now installed no-frills cpu, and started to tinker around with the settings. Could I ask as I am still fairly new to some of this, when I first went on to the settings both maximum and minimum were set to 1.5 GHz (Not sure if it was just saying this on the app or not or if these are the actual settings) but I would guess this would use a lot more power am I right?
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yes you are right. put the min frequency to say 200 or 300 mhz and then press apply on boot and then reboot and you should be fine

System tuner

i've tried to search the forum, google, youtube, but can't find one, is there a guide on how to use this app? SYSTEM TUNER

mikey0105 said:
i've tried to search the forum, google, youtube, but can't find one, is there a guide on how to use this app? SYSTEM TUNER
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You don't need a guide for the most part.
There's no reason to mess with most of the stuff it offers. Just mess with CPU and some of the stuff or voltages.

can you explain it further please? where can i change the voltage? and what does it do?

mikey0105 said:
can you explain it further please? where can i change the voltage? and what does it do?
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You only have the voltage option if your kernel supports it. The new Franco r10, Faux, and eternity should all support voltage option.
What do you do? It allows you to decrease voltages so the phone uses less energy thus saving more battery. Look in the respective threads to know safe/stable voltages. With you lack of knowledge on it (no offense) i'd recommend not messing around with it.
There's really nothing to do with system tuner right now besides undervolting. I'd recommend leaving everything else besides voltage stock.
Either way, I've found stock kernel to be the best still surprisingly as of right now. Best on battery and speed doesn't feel any different.

pewpewbangbang said:
You only have the voltage option if your kernel supports it. The new Franco r10, Faux, and eternity should all support voltage option.
What do you do? It allows you to decrease voltages so the phone uses less energy thus saving more battery. Look in the respective threads to know safe/stable voltages. With you lack of knowledge on it (no offense) i'd recommend not messing around with it.
There's really nothing to do with system tuner right now besides undervolting. I'd recommend leaving everything else besides voltage stock.
Either way, I've found stock kernel to be the best still surprisingly as of right now. Best on battery and speed doesn't feel any different.
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i do appreciate your input... thanks so much... i need to read and learn more before doing something..