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Ok im confused heck about this flashing stuff. I have a S2 I rooted, and flashed... using zerg oneclick.. didnt flash my counter.... and I flashed tons of times
How come on this phone It will ding my flash counter? Isn't there some way to not ? Also I read a thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=35165945&postcount=1610
I just need to understand..
So what trips the flash counter? Every fash trips the counter?
I need my warrenty so I need make sure whatever I do I don't flash the counter... beside that thread about are there any other roms that won't tip my counter? BTW im on ICS still im about get JB but im holding off to see if being on ICS means I can flash with out tripping my counter someone explain this in noobie for me

Hate to tell you, but you are in the Att Galaxy S3 forum.

xxsicknessxx said:
Ok im confused heck about this flashing stuff. I have a S2 I rooted, and flashed... using zerg oneclick.. didnt flash my counter.... and I flashed tons of times
How come on this phone It will ding my flash counter? Isn't there some way to not ? Also I read a thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=35165945&postcount=1610
I just need to understand
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I have NEVER used 1-touch. Follow the instructions you found in the link you provided, and you'll be just fine.
Edit: as long as you're on the ATT GSIII
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I have a s2 rooted but I own a S3
Look im on ICS right now from the store (just got my phone) I want to root it and install a custom rom.... now my question is
Because I don't have JB yet I won't flash my counter right? Question is I can easly choose to flash stock firm ware again later on and reinstall the offical JB rom right? The one from the KIES and samsung,..
So once again... Im on ICS offical.... I want a custom ICS rom.... im ok ? no flash counter? I choose to go back to stock and go forward with JB im still ok no flash counter?
Alright.... but if I flash a JB ROM It will flash right? and it keeps flashing the counter every time I flash
Im a bad type try answer my question if you can please.
I am a person who may need his warrenty some day

xxsicknessxx said:
Because I don't have JB yet I won't flash my counter right?
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You will trip the flash counter if you use Odin to flash something other than a stock (untouched or properly rooted) image.
xxsicknessxx said:
Question is I can easly choose to flash stock firm ware again later on and reinstall the offical JB rom right? The one from the KIES and samsung,..
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Yes - see here for completely stock images you can use for that, or here for pre-rooted stock images.
xxsicknessxx said:
So once again... Im on ICS offical.... I want a custom ICS rom.... im ok ? no flash counter? I choose to go back to stock and go forward with JB im still ok no flash counter?
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Well, to reach the point of having a custom ROM image without having tripped the flash counter, you'll need to go through the root process listed in the second of those links I indicated above so that you can install a custom recovery through which you can install those ROM images.
xxsicknessxx said:
Alright.... but if I flash a JB ROM It will flash right? and it keeps flashing the counter every time I flash
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Just remember - if you're using Odin and you don't want to trip the flash counter, don't flash anything other than stock images. You should be okay then.

Also, keep in mind there is an app called Triangle Away which works for the GS3. Triangle Away can completely reset the flash counter.
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/triangleaway-reset-flash-counter-tool/

[Q] updating to UAMDL with root

I'm rooted with a custom recovery running M919UVUAMDB. Is there an easy way for me to update to M919UVUAMDL. When I tried the ota it said my phone has been modified and wouldn't proceed. I've been reading about people having issues rooting their phone after the they updated, so I'm thinking it may not be worth it to update at this time. I'm hoping I can just flash somthing to bring my phone up to date without the root blocking that was implemented in UAMDL. I have been having some issues and hope the update would resolve them. Can someone steer me in the right direction please? Thanks

electricjelly said:
I'm rooted with a custom recovery running M919UVUAMDB. Is there an easy way for me to update to M919UVUAMDL. When I tried the ota it said my phone has been modified and wouldn't proceed. I've been reading about people having issues rooting their phone after the they updated, so I'm thinking it may not be worth it to update at this time. I'm hoping I can just flash somthing to bring my phone up to date without the root blocking that was implemented in UAMDL. I have been having some issues and hope the update would resolve them. Can someone steer me in the right direction please? Thanks
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I have the same question.

As do I. I'm thinking it'll be a flash via Kies, then re-flash TWRP, install the custom kernel and re-root.

darkjedi said:
As do I. I'm thinking it'll be a flash via Kies, then re-flash TWRP, install the custom kernel and re-root.
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Don't be lazy guys there are roms floating that are MDL and stock rooted.. it takes literally 1 mins to search for them...
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aLdaRiS said:
Don't be lazy guys there are roms floating that are MDL and stock rooted.. it takes literally 1 mins to search for them...
Sent from my SGH-M919
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I thought some of the stock rooted firmwares were zipped and could be flashed via recovery.... (why I didn't think of doing this on the old GS4 I have no idea, prolly because I wanted to keep my recovery stock -shrug-)
Either way wouldn't you need to get Triangle Away?

adventure_of_link said:
I thought some of the stock rooted firmwares were zipped and could be flashed via recovery.... (why I didn't think of doing this on the old GS4 I have no idea, prolly because I wanted to keep my recovery stock -shrug-)
Either way wouldn't you need to get Triangle Away?
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I'm not sure what you're taking about lol
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aLdaRiS said:
I'm not sure what you're taking about lol
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...in other words, isn't it possible to find a custom firmware that you can flash through recovery? (or since this is Samsung land, is this all through Odin? I remember on my Evo 3D I could find new custom firmwares in zip files and flash from recovery.)
and Triangle Away resets some kind of counter specific to some Samsung phones relating to custom firmwares.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.triangleaway&hl=en

adventure_of_link said:
...in other words, isn't it possible to find a custom firmware that you can flash through recovery? (or since this is Samsung land, is this all through Odin? I remember on my Evo 3D I could find new custom firmwares in zip files and flash from recovery.)
and Triangle Away resets some kind of counter specific to some Samsung phones relating to re-installs.
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he said he's already rooted and already has a custom recovery... so basically he needs to find a rom that is stock MDL but rooted(there are 2 in the and development forum) and flash it. that's it. I'm not sure why they wanted to update through Odin it kinda makes no sense.. cos they it'd be stock uprooted and then they'd have to root it again. AFAIK triangle away it's only used to reset the counter on the bootloader to see that you haven't installed any custom recoveries which you would only need if you were to send the phone back to tmo to have it exchanged. Otherwise you don't really need Odin unless you **** up a flash and then need to bring it back to stock fw and then root it again and do the whole process basically ODIN brings your phone back from a soft brick.
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aLdaRiS said:
Don't be lazy guys there are roms floating that are MDL and stock rooted.. it takes literally 1 mins to search for them...
Sent from my SGH-M919
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Has nothing to do with lazy. I ended up upgrading via Kies, flashing the custom kernel and then rooting.

[Q] CWM after Knox????

My wife's S3 got the OTA before I had heard of the Knox problem.
Her phone has some major issues after the update & I am trying to find a way to fix it.
I flashed the MK3 all in one ordered Rom posted by Thunder Stick on my S3 & it seems great so far.
My question is: since she already has Knox on her phone, can I put CWM or PhilZ on her's so I can flash the same rom I put on my phone, or will this cause Knox issues? I'm not worried about the warranty counter, just worried about bricking it.
Any input is welcomed.
Thanks y'all

monke30butt said:
My wife's S3 got the OTA before I had heard of the Knox problem.
Her phone has some major issues after the update & I am trying to find a way to fix it.
I flashed the MK3 all in one ordered Rom posted by Thunder Stick on my S3 & it seems great so far.
My question is: since she already has Knox on her phone, can I put CWM or PhilZ on her's so I can flash the same rom I put on my phone, or will this cause Knox issues? I'm not worried about the warranty counter, just worried about bricking it.
Any input is welcomed.
Thanks y'all
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As long as you don't downgrade the bootloader, Read whole 1st POST HERE

joeyhdownsouth said:
As long as you don't downgrade the bootloader, Read whole 1st POST HERE
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I have read that a few times already. I think what I am unclear on is about the difference between the boot loader & recovery. I was thinking that CWM would replace the boot loader & that is what I was worried about. So, if I have it straight now, the CWM & flashable Rom of MK3 will not replace the boot loader? You need a tar to do the bootloader? So will it matter if the rom has had Knox taken out or should I look for one with knox? I was hoping to use the All In One Rom, but it has no Knox.
Sorry to be a pest guys

monke30butt said:
I have read that a few times already. I think what I am unclear on is about the difference between the boot loader & recovery. I was thinking that CWM would replace the boot loader & that is what I was worried about. So, if I have it straight now, the CWM & flashable Rom of MK3 will not replace the boot loader? You need a tar to do the bootloader? So will it matter if the rom has had Knox taken out or should I look for one with knox? I was hoping to use the All In One Rom, but it has no Knox.
Sorry to be a pest guys
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CWM will replace the stock Android recovery. Yes, a tar file can downgrade the bootloader. you can flash any ROM as long you do not downgrade the bootloader.

Thanks Joey

[Q] To root or not Android 4.3 Knox

I have downloaded everything necessary to root my Note 2 but what is this Knox issue that most seems to be facing from what i have read? Can someone tell me if it really is safe to go ahead and root? I am mighty confused.

nascarlam said:
I have downloaded everything necessary to root my Note 2 but what is this Knox issue that most seems to be facing from what i have read? Can someone tell me if it really is safe to go ahead and root? I am mighty confused.
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No reason to be confused, if you flash 4.3 and then flash custom recovery or root, you will get Knox warranty void, end of
You want 4.3 without Knox, flash this

(InsertNameHere) said:
No reason to be confused, if you flash 4.3 and then flash custom recovery or root, you will get Knox warranty void, end of
You want 4.3 without Knox, flash this
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Thanks man. Already flashed the official FW via odin. Anyways i guess am just going to go ahead and flash it. Already out of warranty and haven't extended the warranty. Fingers crossed.

nascarlam said:
Thanks man. Already flashed the official FW via odin. Anyways i guess am just going to go ahead and flash it. Already out of warranty and haven't extended the warranty. Fingers crossed.
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Sorry to hear that, hit the thanks button if it was helpful in anyway.

[Q] How does Rooting affect Galaxy S3's Knox Counter?

I've read a little bit about Knox in the last few months, but wanted to make sure I've got everything right, especially since things have probably changed since the early days of Knox.
Here's my situation: I'm running a TMO Galaxy S3 w/ stock recovery. I was using mrRobinson's T999UVDMD5 and foolishly did the TMO update to T999UVUEMJC.
(I thought I'd be able to retain root, but ended up losing root, getting Knox, and a bootloader that won't let me roll back. )
Now my phone locks up during boot. If I'm lucky, it'll boot but locks up nearly immediately after boot.
And this is with stock everything. I've had the phone a year and a half, so it's out of warranty.
So what's Sammy's stance on their update breaking phones out of warranty?
Do they cover that? Can I get a TMO store to put DMD5 back on?
I'm thinking of using the root66 EMJC img. I'm pretty confident that it won't brick the phone, since it'll be the same bootloader I'm currently running.
And I'm not too worried if it trips the Flash Counter (flag, really) since I should be able to clear it.
But what about the Knox counter? Will that get tripped? mrRobinson's post leads me to think that it will.
Any other root options I should consider? (Above all else, I'd like to be able to restore back to stock if I need to.)
I kinda like the stock ROM (save for some bloatware) and TouchWiz doesn't bother me.

If it's out of warranty, it shouldn't matter if you trip the Knox counter, Should it? Some say as long as you don't install a custom recovery that if you do the root 66 method just for root that Knox doesn't trip. But I can never get anyone to confirm that.
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masondoctorjt said:
If it's out of warranty, it shouldn't matter if you trip the Knox counter, Should it? Some say as long as you don't install a custom recovery that if you do the root 66 method just for root that Knox doesn't trip. But I can never get anyone to confirm that.
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Thanks masondoctorjt! That's one of my questions. (albeit, a lesser one)
If TMO/Sammy's update f'd up my phone will they cover it if it's out of warranty? especially when it was fine before?
(It's also a work phone, so I'd like to be able to return it like I got it, if need be.)
It's that confirmation I'm looking for here.
This Knox thread seems to state that as long as a Knox-enabled bootloader is used, the counter won't trip. But it also says flashing Knox-enabled fw via Odin trips the Knox counter too. (which I don't fully believe) Hence my confusion. A lot of contradictory info.
Add to that the loose usage of 'flash counter' to refer to both the triangle/flash counter/flag and the Knox counter/flag and you can see why my head is spinning!
It was tricky for me to see the Knox Counter info for my phone. Recovery and Bootloader mode didn't pop up the screen.
But when I used adb to enter bootloader, I saw the counter info.

So did you root it, and if so, did the trip the knox counter?
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No, not yet. I was hoping to hear back from someone who's tried this.
I didn't want to be the first guinea pig.
I'll probably take my phone down to the T-Mobile store this weekend and give them an earful to see if they can roll me back w/o tripping Knox flag and report back.

PhilipJFry said:
No, not yet. I was hoping to hear back from someone who's tried this.
I didn't want to be the first guinea pig.
I'll probably take my phone down to the T-Mobile store this weekend and give them an earful to see if they can roll me back w/o tripping Knox flag and report back.
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I would be like to hear how you did after going to T-mobile. Thanks.

patcal said:
I would be like to hear how you did after going to T-mobile. Thanks.
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I honestly don't expect a whole lot from them really. But it's an avenue I have to try.
I'm ultimately going to root this anyway. If TMO can successfully roll me back to T999UVDMD5 completely, I'll just root that and stick till the dust has settled somewhat on Knox.

For Rooting after getting that 4.3 update, the process is pretty simple really. Since you have 4.3, you flash Root66 Via Odin. Or you could flash a custom Recovery via Odin and then flash SuperSU zip via Recovery.
It is my understanding that either one will not trip the Knox Counter. If you wish you can follow this guide.
NOTE - Do not Try to flash Older Root66 versions. You can only flash UVUEMJC version. If you flash any other version even accidentally then you will get expensive paperweight.

patcal said:
I would be like to hear how you did after going to T-mobile. Thanks.
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It was ultimately unproductive.
I went in and explained the situation (w/ less detail) and asked them to roll me back to UVDMD5.
They said Samsung doesn't let them roll back, so he then proceeded to recover my phone.
He booted into recovery and wiped cache. When that proved unsuccessful, he wiped data. (nothing I couldn't have done)
Wiping data ultimately made the phone usable again. He then proceeded to enter some short codes to bind me to the network quicker.
(all he mentioned was #NUM#)
So I'm back to stock (more or less ). Not sure when I'll root now.
Perseus71 said:
For Rooting after getting that 4.3 update, the process is pretty simple really. Since you have 4.3, you flash Root66 Via Odin. Or you could flash a custom Recovery via Odin and then flash SuperSU zip via Recovery.
It is my understanding that either one will not trip the Knox Counter. If you wish you can follow this guide.
NOTE - Do not Try to flash Older Root66 versions. You can only flash UVUEMJC version. If you flash any other version even accidentally then you will get expensive paperweight.
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From what I've read, the custom recovery should trip Knox. Have you tried this yourself?
I'm fairly confident if I merely flash root66 that it won't trip Knox. But I'd like better than a 51% confidence interval, that's all.
(Again, it's a work phone and I'd like to return it as I got it.)

It will trip that previous counter bit. Don't think it will trip the Knox counter.
No I do not have the Knox Counter.

PhilipJFry said:
It was ultimately unproductive.
I went in and explained the situation (w/ less detail) and asked them to roll me back to UVDMD5.
They said Samsung doesn't let them roll back, so he then proceeded to recover my phone.
He booted into recovery and wiped cache. When that proved unsuccessful, he wiped data. (nothing I couldn't have done)
Wiping data ultimately made the phone usable again. He then proceeded to enter some short codes to bind me to the network quicker.
(all he mentioned was #NUM#)
So I'm back to stock (more or less ). Not sure when I'll root now.
From what I've read, the custom recovery should trip Knox. Have you tried this yourself?
I'm fairly confident if I merely flash root66 that it won't trip Knox. But I'd like better than a 51% confidence interval, that's all.
(Again, it's a work phone and I'd like to return it as I got it.)
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I believe I tripped the Knox counter when I flashed CWM recovery after I flashed stock 4.3 from Docs signature. Phone works great but no warranty on a 6 month old phone.
Pat

patcal said:
I believe I tripped the Knox counter when I flashed CWM recovery after I flashed stock 4.3 from Docs signature. Phone works great but no warranty on a 6 month old phone.
Pat
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Was that the Flash Counter or Knox Counter?

Perseus71 said:
Was that the Flash Counter or Knox Counter?
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Well I reset the flash counter with Triangle away. The Knox counter was not tripped until I flashed the recovery.
Pat

patcal said:
I believe I tripped the Knox counter when I flashed CWM recovery after I flashed stock 4.3 from Docs signature. Phone works great but no warranty on a 6 month old phone.
Pat
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Pat,
So just to get this straight, you flashed the stock TMO update, so you were not rooted?
Or did you do a root-injected variant of the stock?
Either way, I'm surprised you tripped the (triangle) flash counter.
But I'm more worried about the Knox counter; not worried about the other since there is Triangle Away.

patcal said:
Well I reset the flash counter with Triangle away. The Knox counter was not tripped until I flashed the recovery.
Pat
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Thanks for letting me know.

PhilipJFry said:
Pat,
So just to get this straight, you flashed the stock TMO update, so you were not rooted?
Or did you do a root-injected variant of the stock?
Either way, I'm surprised you tripped the (triangle) flash counter.
But I'm more worried about the Knox counter; not worried about the other since there is Triangle Away.
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I flashed T999LUVUBMK4 from Docs signature. I am not exactly sure when the flash counter tripped. I do know that the Knox bit was tripped by my flashing the recovery.
Edit: Don't remember how I got root. Sorry.
Edit2: T999L_4.3_UVUBMK4_deodexed_KnoxFREE.zip is the file I flashed.

patcal said:
I flashed T999LUVUBMK4 from Docs signature. I am not exactly sure when the flash counter tripped. I do know that the Knox bit was tripped by my flashing the recovery.
Edit: Don't remember how I got root. Sorry.
Edit2: T999L_4.3_UVUBMK4_deodexed_KnoxFREE.zip is the file I flashed.
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The Flash Counter (Triangle away kind) will trip due to the running tracer (read Sysscope) in that Rom. I'd not worry about it as Triangle away will take care of it. Yes it trips due to custom Recovery and Root.

Perseus71 said:
The Flash Counter (Triangle away kind) will trip due to the running tracer (read Sysscope) in that Rom. I'd not worry about it as Triangle away will take care of it. Yes it trips due to custom Recovery and Root.
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Thanks for that Perseus71. Didn't know about Sysscope before, but sounds interesting. I figured root66 removed it, since mrRobinson claims that it doesn't trip the normal flash counter. And this matches my experience w/ his previous root66.
patcal said:
I flashed T999LUVUBMK4 from Docs signature. I am not exactly sure when the flash counter tripped. I do know that the Knox bit was tripped by my flashing the recovery.
Edit: Don't remember how I got root. Sorry.
Edit2: T999L_4.3_UVUBMK4_deodexed_KnoxFREE.zip is the file I flashed.
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So it sounds like you were able to flash a rooted ROM and not affect Knox, as long as you leave the stock recovery.
That was my plan anyway. I'll probably look into this later this week.

PhilipJFry said:
Thanks for that Perseus71. Didn't know about Sysscope before, but sounds interesting. I figured root66 removed it, since mrRobinson claims that it doesn't trip the normal flash counter. And this matches my experience w/ his previous root66.
So it sounds like you were able to flash a rooted ROM and not affect Knox, as long as you leave the stock recovery.
That was my plan anyway. I'll probably look into this later this week.
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Yep. Let us know how it goes.

FYI, the Knox counter gets tripped.
I flashed the root66 T999UVUEMJC via Odin. That's it.
Oh, and the flash counter does not get set.