So best buy list the moto 360 as having WiFi, has anyone with a 360 seen or know what the WiFi is used for? Like WiFi file sharing or internet
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mr3army said:
I believe the wifi is used only for downloading information to the phone which it then sends to the watch via bluetooth.
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I wonder if they consider BT4.0 as wifi since it uses 2.4ghz as in wifi?
I am under the assumption that the 360 does not have WIFI, ifixit has their breakdown up and mention no chip.
I have a 360 and it seems the only connection option is via bluetooth.
Sad b/c I was hoping to stay connected with wifi as I always have it on, so bluetooth drains my phone a little quicker. I like the 360 thus far, hardware wise its very nice (aside from the small battery) - android wear seems fairly beta still though, but hopefully that will change quickly in the coming months.
FCC docs list specs for the WiFi test.
My personal belief is that WiFi is used for the updates. Anecdotal, but from varying easy/hard update reports, WiFi was the varying factor.
SoberGuy said:
FCC docs list specs for the WiFi test.
My personal belief is that WiFi is used for the updates. Anecdotal, but from varying easy/hard update reports, WiFi was the varying factor.
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How does it connect to Wi-Fi without credentials?
Maybe it uses WiFi direct to transfer data with the paired phone
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ChrisNee1988 said:
Maybe it uses WiFi direct to transfer data with the paired phone
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I have multiple Wi-Fi devices, it couldn't just automatically connect to one.
Bit like Chromecast, perhaps? Establish BT connection, obtain credentials from phone, establish WiFi connection.
The SOC supports it, the FCC tested it.... Shrug. Just an idea.
This would be easy to test...
Go into your router, and check for a new DHCP client...
If only there were an update to test that with!
I was thinking WiFi for location services-but still, why does it need WiFi if it's connected to a phone with WiFi? Odd...
The Moto360 does not have Wifi support, either hardware or software.
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The Moto360 does not have Wifi support, either hardware or software.
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Perhaps you'd like to read the last link on the following page, specifically section 2.2: https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...Frame=N&application_id=398715&fcc_id=IHDT6QC1
SoberGuy said:
Perhaps you'd like to read the last link on the following page, specifically section 2.2: https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...Frame=N&application_id=398715&fcc_id=IHDT6QC1
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As I stated, the Moto360 has no wifi capability, either hardware or software. It is BT only.
Can you explain, then, why the FCC docs list WiFi capabilities? They even tested it.
Honest question.
SoberGuy said:
Can you explain, then, why the FCC docs list WiFi capabilities? They even tested it.
Honest question.
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That only refers to the BT testing. Remember, same band.
chamberc said:
As I stated, the Moto360 has no wifi capability, either hardware or software. It is BT only.
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According to the firmware file present in the Moto360, and this picture (green rectangle) (you can see also the filters and caps that connect to the circular antenna inside the metal case, BTW):
It has a Texas Instruments WL18xx chip, probably a WL1851. This chip has wifi, as seen here:
http://investor.ti.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=648106
This kind of chips can use bluetooth and wifi using the same antenna, at the same time.
I don't think it's being used at the moment, I don't have the watch yet. But it definitely is hardware capable.
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chamberc said:
That only refers to the BT testing. Remember, same band.
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No, there are test reports for BT AND Wifi, separately, working :
http://fccid.net/number.php?fcc=IHDT6QC1&id=439285#axzz3DQ1sBFxM
Read this if you have any doubt:
http://fccid.net/document.php?id=2289203#axzz3DQ1sBFxM
dproldan said:
According to the firmware file present in the Moto360, and this picture (green rectangle) (you can see also the filters and caps that connect to the circular antenna inside the metal case, BTW):
It has a Texas Instruments WL18xx chip, probably a WL1851. This chip has wifi, as seen here:
http://investor.ti.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=648106
This kind of chips can use bluetooth and wifi using the same antenna, at the same time.
I don't think it's being used at the moment, I don't have the watch yet. But it definitely is hardware capable.
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No, there are test reports for BT AND Wifi, separately, working :
http://fccid.net/number.php?fcc=IHDT6QC1&id=439285#axzz3DQ1sBFxM
Read this if you have any doubt:
http://fccid.net/document.php?id=2289203#axzz3DQ1sBFxM
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Think...
I just like the guys who actually have no clues and scream nooooooooo
In the log cat you can see WiFi service starting and WiFi being in a disabled state... Fwiw ..
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WIFI seems to perform excellent on this phone and works flawlessly at home. When at work though I have to toggle wifi on and off maybe 3 times an hour. Work uses EAP and I'm thinking this is the culprit. This is the first phone I've had this problem with. Like I said it doesn't do it at home which does not use EAP.
Anyone else experiencing anything similar? By the way I looked into the wifi region fix and didn't think it applied to this situation.
Without knowing more about how the wifi infrastructure is configured, it would be hard to pin point. There are quite a few people using EAP without issue. Can you give any more details?
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I don't know what else to say. Without having access to even the location of the router I won't be able to gather much info. I work at a huge facility with router antennas sticking out of the ceiling. I most definitely won't be able to access the configuration settings of the routers either. I don't know what other info I can provide other than its EAP and I use a user name and password to log on
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I don't know what else to say. Without having access to even the location of the router I won't be able to gather much info. I work at a huge facility with router antennas sticking out of the ceiling. I most definitely won't be able to access the configuration settings of the routers either. I don't know what other info I can provide other than its EAP and I use a user name and password to log on
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Logcat then you would know for sure. At least it may be some sort of indication
I have the same problem. My g2 would connect to the eap network at work fine, but my galaxy nexus does not with the same exact settings
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Mine connects just fine on the first try but sometimes the internet just won't work. I'll show like 2-3 bars and they are blue but nothing works. Have to toggle wifi to get it back.
Maybe it has to do with me moving from one room to another and the connection drops with no indication? I can not for the life of me figure out how to use log cat! And I've tried many times in the past!
does someone found a solution to this issue?
I am also looking for a solution to get connected with my office wifi network
I'm still having this problem for the record. Different kernels and roms. Only happens at work.
Eap isn't fully supported except on master aosp.
adrynalyne said:
Eap isn't fully supported except on master aosp.
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Sorry for my lack of knowledge but can you please explain more in detail what this means?
Unless someone compiles it into aosp from the master branch, you won't really have eap support. I am sure it will be in next ota.
adrynalyne said:
Unless someone compiles it into aosp from the master branch, you won't really have eap support. I am sure it will be in next ota.
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It worked fine in Gingerbread. I wonder why they would remove it for ICS...
kcm117 said:
It worked fine in Gingerbread. I wonder why they would remove it for ICS...
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I think it was a mistake, rather than intentional.
So no real solution for the moment...
It seems that changing some con wifi files can solve issue but i was not able to identify the good ones
Huck33 said:
So no real solution for the moment...
It seems that changing some con wifi files can solve issue but i was not able to identify the good ones
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Any solution at all, even temporary would be great
Constantly having to enable and disable wifi to get my connection back is the only thing about his phone I can not stand.
Yes, even a temp solution will be great until it get fixed by Google..
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By the way the people on the below thread are successfully connecting to the WPA2 Enterprise network, may be we can get some help from this developer to resolve the issues on our Gnexus.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1508118
lethalfriend said:
Yes, even a temp solution will be great until it get fixed by Google..
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By the way the people on the below thread are successfully connecting to the WPA2 Enterprise network, may be we can get some help from this developer to resolve the issues on our Gnexus.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1508118
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We are actually able to connect, it just doesn't maintain the connection sometimes
I am totally unable to connect with my office wifi network as it keep saying connecting nothing else... There must be a way to to fix this issue as I used to connect with my GSII on gingerbread rom without any issue.
lethalfriend said:
I am totally unable to connect with my office wifi network as it keep saying connecting nothing else... There must be a way to to fix this issue as I used to connect with my GSII on gingerbread rom without any issue.
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Did you try EAP rather than WPA2?
So myself and the wife are at Applebee's. She gets on WiFi no issues and I can't. See below screen shots. I even rebooted my device to no avail. Mine was always unstable and would drop. Hers was solid see.pics below. Mines the N900T and hers is the N900A. Both using Att sim cards.
I'm thinking Samsung used different chip sets sources for their wifi.
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Doubtful that they used different chipsets. So you are both on stock roms, or have you been flashing stuff on yours?
Have you already factory reset your phone? A lot of people have had minor issues and flashing stock firmware or factory reset has helped some issues.
sent from my sm-9005.
Me too I hate it... That and the range my phone has is terrible
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Sitting by pool, about 60ft and 3 walls from the access point. SSID name is "Disconnected" (really messes with the neighbors). Access point is well sitted, up high in my home office fairly new with current firmware..
You can see the 5Ghz version of the AP in the list as well.
You might have to go back to factory rom, or turn your wifi off and disable always scanning. It may be trying to find a better network.
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krelvinaz said:
Doubtful that they used different chipsets. So you are both on stock roms, or have you been flashing stuff on yours?
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Both stock roms.
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deeznutz1977 said:
Me too I hate it... That and the range my phone has is terrible
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My range is very respectable. But unfortunately today I discovered this issue. It would very slowly connect then disconnect even quicker. Two stock phones on same WiFi in my neighborhood grill lol.
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colganx said:
You might have to go back to factory rom, or turn your wifi off and disable always scanning. It may be trying to find a better network.
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Always scannig is off but in WiFi it does appear to scanning all the time.
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Let me do some reading up on it. Ill get back to you.
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Limeybastard said:
My range is very respectable. But unfortunately today I discovered this issue. It would very slowly connect then disconnect even quicker. Two stock phones on same WiFi in my neighborhood grill lol.
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Unfortunately, i think its just the hardware. Your phone might have two antennas and if you find your correct kernel, you could change it to run off the best antenna possible. might take some testing and such. if all else fails go to your service provider for a evaluation
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Let me do some reading up on it. Ill get back to you.
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Unfortunately, i think its just the hardware. Your phone might have two antennas and if you find your correct kernel, you could change it to run off the best antenna possible. might take some testing and such. if all else fails go to your service provider for a evaluation
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Thanks for taking the time to look into this. I never really had WiFi issues before until today in the restaurant. If it wasn't for my wife having the same phone I would have addsumed it was the stores router.
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Your quite welcome, always glad to help. My old Galaxy would malfunction the same way sometimes. Sometimes between my router and the neighbors and Other times on random hotspots. Sometimes you may have to go in the browser and accept a terms of use. If you figure out the problem, send me a pm.
Cheers - Colgan
colganx said:
Your quite welcome, always glad to help. My old Galaxy would malfunction the same way sometimes. Sometimes between my router and the neighbors and Other times on random hotspots. Sometimes you may have to go in the browser and accept a terms of use. If you figure out the problem, send me a pm.
Cheers - Colgan
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Yes, correct. Once after connecfting to the Wifi Router I need to launch the stock Samsung browser to accept their terms and conditions, this process in itself takes about 5 mins or hangs proir to terms and conditions screen it boots me off the WiFi and says its unstable or too slow per my original post.
Its just that theres too many people on the network, Thats the only issue. It mainly does this on public networks. So it is not a phone problem its a client network problem :thumbup:
I had this briefly on my home WiFi. Wasnt a client network as I allow 10 objects to be on mine. Its water under the bridge but that is a possibility on a public network.
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I had this problem in spades.
It has nothing to do with a public hotspot or router.
I'm not entirely sure it's not on some type of pattern yet, like 7 or 8 days.
I'll bet you that if you had powered off your phone for a few minutes and turned it back on, the problem would have been gone.
I am pretty sure this is something going on with the Radios in these phones.
Everytime mine gets flaky it usually resolves with a power down for a few minutes.
The other problem I've seen is that if I shut down wifi a number of times in a row because I want to use Mobile data, it will then start not staying connected when I want to use it.
I have to power off and power on and re enter the WPA2 password.
After seeing another thread with some other strange issues, I'm convinced there is a HW or SW issue related to the wifi radio.
I have seen the message exactly like you have here on a AP at my house that only has 2 clients on it and performs flawlessly.
It wouldn't connect to attwifi at Sam's yesterday for some reason.
This is one of the reasons I won't ROM it yet either. I'm still not convinced that it might not go home to the mothership at some point.
I'm not a newb and I'm pretty sure aosp roms wont have the problem. I think its pretty disgraceful for such a great phone to have these wifi disconnects. No its not the router, I have a note 2 and s2 running flawlessly and I don't want to do a store return for the same phone. Any insight would be appreciated and voiding a warranty is the least of my concerns.
Anyone out there lol
I am interested with this also. Free bump.
Btw, I got authentication error on the wifi, not sure with yours.
Tested with 4 different routers, no go. Meanwhile, my iPhone and Nexus 5 are working fine, so are all my other devices like TV, laptops, IP camera etc.
lanwarrior said:
I am interested with this also. Free bump.
Btw, I got authentication error on the wifi, not sure with yours.
Tested with 4 different routers, no go. Meanwhile, my iPhone and Nexus 5 are working fine, so are all my other devices like TV, laptops, IP camera etc.
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I get that plus I was getting a security error notification I don't remember until I deactivated lookout. Now it just disconnects after maybe 8 minutes or so.
mookiexl said:
I get that plus I was getting a security error notification I don't remember until I deactivated lookout. Now it just disconnects after maybe 8 minutes or so.
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What router and router firmware do you have. Are you using kk or 4.3. Is their heavy traffic on your router channel? Also can you show a screenshot of your WiFi settings.
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BACARDILIMON said:
What router and router firmware do you have. Are you using kk or 4.3. Is their heavy traffic on your router channel? Also can you show a screenshot of your WiFi settings.
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I have Asus RT-N66U - stock firmware because DD-WRT have issues. I also tried D-Link, Netgear and Buffalo.. all bought JUST to test this damn Wi-Fi issue. All connection to 802.11n 5Ghz and I tried every single channel out there.
I am using JB 4.3, stock, rooted. Wifi setting is:
- Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep: Only when pluggen in
- Always allow scanning: no
- Auto network switch: no
No heavy traffic most of the time. Issue happens whether I play Netflix or not.
lanwarrior said:
I have Asus RT-N66U - stock firmware because DD-WRT have issues. I also tried D-Link, Netgear and Buffalo.. all bought JUST to test this damn Wi-Fi issue. All connection to 802.11n 5Ghz and I tried every single channel out there.
I am using JB 4.3, stock, rooted. Wifi setting is:
- Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep: Only when pluggen in
- Always allow scanning: no
- Auto network switch: no
No heavy traffic most of the time. Issue happens whether I play Netflix or not.
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You just solved all your issues. Go on the 2.5 GHz. Forget 5ghz. Test that out I bet you it works. 5ghz has less people on it it also is unstable. Very unstable. I shut mine off on my router cause of all the headaches it was causing.
ASUS RT-N66U Firmware version 3.0.0.4.374.4561
Check ur firmware
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BACARDILIMON said:
You just solved all your issues. Go on the 2.5 GHz. Forget 5ghz. Test that out I bet you it works. 5ghz has less people on it it also is unstable. Very unstable. I shut mine off on my router cause of all the headaches it was causing.
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Hmm.. that's bizarre. I have used 5Ghz for a long time and all my other devices (Nexus 5, Nexus 7, iPhone 5, iPhone 5S) works great with the 802.11n 5Ghz radio. No authentication error. My place is also "crowded" with all the neighbors' Wi-Fi, all 2.4 Ghz.
I will test it out, but I found 2.4Ghz is slower when say, streaming netflix. Slightly more buffering.
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Hmm.. that's bizarre. I have used 5Ghz for a long time and all my other devices (Nexus 5, Nexus 7, iPhone 5, iPhone 5S) works great with the 802.11n 5Ghz radio. No authentication error. My place is also "crowded" with all the neighbors' Wi-Fi, all 2.4 Ghz.
I will test it out, but I found 2.4Ghz is slower when say, streaming netflix. Slightly more buffering.
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My note 2 would fly on 5ghz. This phone will not. A lot of people have issue. You should download WiFi analytics by netgear and see what channel is best for you and change it manually. Also firmware. Update it
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BACARDILIMON said:
My note 2 would fly on 5ghz. This phone will not. A lot of people have issue. You should download WiFi analytics by netgear and see what channel is best for you and change it manually. Also firmware. Update it
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Will do. Thanks for the advise!
OP, try this also and see if it fixed the problem.
I gonna assume it worked for you?
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Ok say I went ahead and rooted and installed Jedi and still had an unstable connection issue so I tried pac-rom and confirmed no issued with wifi, went back to Jedi and was still getting wifi disconnects. After a lot of hair pulling and google search I found a xda user post in a thread (I can't remember where) were an owner of the note3 and s4 said he fixed his wifi disconnects on both phones by changing his routers band settings to g or b and not mixed g/b like it had been set on. I decided to give it a try so I switched mine from what was a b/n band to just a b band and low and behold I was able to stream a whole movie via allshare without a disconnect where as before it was about 8 minutes before a disconnect. I hope this thread helps somebody. I will report back with an update In a day or so.
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Ok say I went ahead and rooted and installed Jedi and still had an unstable connection issue so I tried pac-rom and confirmed no issued with wifi, went back to Jedi and was still getting wifi disconnects. After a lot of hair pulling and google search I found a xda user post in a thread (I can't remember where) were an owner of the note3 and s4 said he fixed his wifi disconnects on both phones by changing his routers band settings to g or b and not mixed g/b like it had been set on. I decided to give it a try so I switched mine from what was a b/n band to just a b band and low and behold I was able to stream a whole movie via allshare without a disconnect where as before it was about 8 minutes before a disconnect. I hope this thread helps somebody. I will report back with an update In a day or so.
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So pretty much what I said days ago .lmao
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So pretty much what I said days ago .lmao
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[Thats right, you my friend deserve a beer but had I not abandoned my on thread a day I wouldnt be rooted now and on 4.4.2 lol.And yes I should've referenced your 1st reply in this thread because thats what triggered the search for router settings for 4.3-4.4.2 sammys. If you don't mind I want to post a screenie from my router settings and see if you could possibly help me get my wifi speeds higher than the 5mb I'm getting after I made the change, before I always got atleast 25mb on the speedtest.net app . I'll have to wait till I get home.
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[Thats right, you my friend deserve a beer but had I not abandoned my on thread a day I wouldnt be rooted now and on 4.4.2 lol.And yes I should've referenced your 1st reply in this thread because thats what triggered the search for router settings for 4.3-4.4.2 sammys. If you don't mind I want to post a screenie from my router settings and see if you could possibly help me get my wifi speeds higher than the 5mb I'm getting after I made the change, before I always got atleast 25mb on the speedtest.net app . I'll have to wait till I get home.
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OK post a shot then I will pm you. Need the routers info make model and so forth
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Never one wifi problem anywhere ever with my note 3 on stock rootes kk.
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OK post a shot then I will pm you. Need the routers info make model and so forth
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Thanks for the help I went back in and set my belkin n+ router to 802.11n and 20mhz and Ive gotten back to 25mbps rock stable.
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Never one wifi problem anywhere ever with my note 3 on stock rootes kk.
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you probably dont have a router that is not set up perfectly on 5ghz
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I gonna assume it worked for you?
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Sorry for the late reply, the new Tapatalk 4 interface is damn confusing (was using the old version)... I hate it.
Anyways, I moved to G and so far so good. We shall see!
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Sorry for the late reply, the new Tapatalk 4 interface is damn confusing (was using the old version)... I hate it.
Anyways, I moved to G and so far so good. We shall see!
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Well the fact that you have been on it for more than a day without issue I say it a win. Any other issues could be something else.
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Is moto 360 GPS ready?
This post make me unsure about it...
I do not believe the hardware has a GPS module but, I'm sure it can pull GPS data from the phone. If it can't use data from the phone right now I would expect a software update could enable it.
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I do not believe the hardware has a GPS module but, I'm sure it can pull GPS data from the phone. If it can't use data from the phone right now I would expect a software update could enable it.
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I was hoping the hardware had a module
It does just not enabled till a future update from what I read
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No GPS in the 360.
No teardown so far, so can't say for sure.
However, if it had one, most probably Moto would have advertised it. (Like Sony did).
Teardowns reveal a mysterious WL18G chip. I believe this to be a new WiLink8 variant possibly with BT only. No GPS.
Does anyone know of a way to get aggressive wifi to cellular handover back in Android P? It used to be an option under developer options.
It's still there. Under networking. Turn off mobile data always active.
Like me lol
That's not the same thing. In older versions that was there but there was also the aggressive handover option.
My problem is that whenever I'm right outside of my work building it keeps connecting to wifi, but the signal is so weak nothing happens until I turn off wifi.
With the option that used to be there this wasn't a problem.
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That's not the same thing. In older versions that was there but there was also the aggressive handover option.
My problem is that whenever I'm right outside of my work building it keeps connecting to wifi, but the signal is so weak nothing happens until I turn off wifi.
With the option that used to be there this wasn't a problem.
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Oh yes! Now I remember what you're talking about. Sorry man.
Maybe it's just not available yet in the betas.
So... this setting is missing on the official version also... did it move somewhere else or was it removed permanently?
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So... this setting is missing on the official version also... did it move somewhere else or was it removed permanently?
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I no longer see it either, but remember using it back on my 6P.
The mobile data always being on should work just fine for that though.
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Perhaps some cellular provider business partners urged Google to make some more money for them.. and voilá.. there goes your "agressive handover" switch.. Instead of really useful, real customer-usecase driven features, like this, we get a dozen of useless vapor-features like digital wellbeing, that no one ever uses. Thanks, Google