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question about the new OTA update

Ok, I'm probably going to get flamed for this but...
I've been keeping up with the thread joeykrim started about how to gain root with the new v1.47.651.1 update. Then I saw the newest thread where they've been able to do it. Yet I've seen a bunch of v1.47.651.1 rooted downloads in the dev subthread, and a week ago or so, I had downloaded the rooted deodexed 1.47 rom, with the new radio, with the plan to flash it over. I was hesitant because I knew people were having problems with the new update. So for now I have Fresh's rom (which btw is awesome).
So I've finally put 2 and 2 together, and this is what I've discovered... Is the new update ITSELF, just the actual FILE, able to be rooted? aka, the update was downloaded to a computer, hacked, and then able to be flashed to a phone with no problems? And that would mean the only problems are for people who applied the OTA update or bought a new evo that already had the 1.47 update, correct?
sorry to be an idiot!

Correct .
Well, wait.lol the Rom you downloaded is basically an stock Rom with update, an entire image that will replace what you have. It is just rooted already.
But you are correct that it is only people who took the ota update or bought a new phone and the salesperson did the upgrade who must use the new method to root.
At least you posted in the right forum so you better not get flamed lol

elegantai said:
Correct .
Well, wait.lol the Rom you downloaded is basically an stock Rom with update, an entire image that will replace what you have. It is just rooted already.
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ok, thanks!
yeah I just have the stock rooted 1.47 rom. I think I'll wait until some dev's get their hands on it and see what they release, before i flash it.

I am running my own variation of the deodex 1.47 that calkuin (sorry for the spelling if its wrong.) So its good to go. But I think there are a few that already have it incorporated such as damage control.

i think i also have that caulkin 1.47 version. do you like it? what kind of things do you like about it over the 1.32.651.6 version?

I just used it as a starting point for my Rom. I just wanted the update so i can actually logon to my WiFi router. The image you have is the stock image, so it still has all the Sprint apps on it and stuff.

2.1 unrevoked-rooted tmo -> unchanged 2.2 HOW?

this is my second thread about this issue, and PLEASE don't answer if you don't know how i could do this. i DON'T want a rooted/modded whatsoever 2.2, just the update that came today.
i guess my best bet would be flashing a htc europe generic rom and get the OTA, but how do i do that?

If your phone is from a network provider then it will more than likely need rooting even if you just want to flash it with a generic HTC ROM.
If it was purchased SIM free then it should already have a generic ROM and it will just be a matter of time before you get the OTA update.
Have you tried manually chacking for an update on the phone?

maxupp said:
this is my second thread about this issue, and PLEASE don't answer if you don't know how i could do this. i DON'T want a rooted/modded whatsoever 2.2, just the update that came today.
i guess my best bet would be flashing a htc europe generic rom and get the OTA, but how do i do that?
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Here's how
I'm Rooted and I still want the official update after reading the warning.
1) Make a goldcard using this guide (For Desire too)
2) Download this
3) Double click it and follow the instructions.
4) When the update is ready to be pushed out, you will get a notification.
(taken from the Official foyo update thread....please search or read before making threads like this)
Also consider looking at this
http://android.modaco.com/content/htc-desire-desire-modaco-com/307683/howto-unroot-your-htc-desire/
BTW, if you do this you will not be able to unroot again untill a new root is found which could take weeks, or could never happen. You loose the ability to install custom roms, or non sense roms.

@ shetlander: it IS rooted, but i'm not able to flash generic, it simply doesn't work
@jedipottsy: i don't have a micro SD card available, but as i said, the phone IS rooted, so i there any way to do it without one? maybe a dump of a generic firmware instead of a ruu.exe?
edit: i forgot to mention, i had a leaked 2.2 build flashed before, but then flashed back to t-mobile rom. what doesn't work ist the flash to htc europe generic

maxupp said:
@ shetlander: it IS rooted, but i'm not able to flash generic, it simply doesn't work
@jedipottsy: i don't have a micro SD card available, but as i said, the phone IS rooted, so i there any way to do it without one? maybe a dump of a generic firmware instead of a ruu.exe?
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nope, need an sdcard, can't flash an official over an unofficial, you need sd to restore to an older official.

Jedipottsy said:
nope, need an sdcard, can't flash an official over an unofficial, you need sd to restore to an older official.
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well i was able to got to a defrost build and back to stock without goldcard, i don't see why a htc generic can't function (

cant see the advantage of using the official, you loose too much for little gain
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=741663 or http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=741755
there is full 2.2 with extras, or plain with root, much easier to install and you dont loose root

thx jedi, i am actually flahshing the thingy with busybox(whatever that does), there's no way i'm gonna miss teeter ^^

maxupp said:
this is my second thread about this issue, and PLEASE don't answer if you don't know how i could do this. i DON'T want a rooted/modded whatsoever 2.2, just the update that came today.
i guess my best bet would be flashing a htc europe generic rom and get the OTA, but how do i do that?
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Download this rom:
http://shipped-roms.com/shipped/Bra...00.28U_4.06.00.02_2_release_126984_signed.zip
change the name to PB99IMG and put it on your gold card, boot into recovery and select fastboot, it will install the generic 1.21 rom, then when you check for updates the froyo update will be there, btw doing this wipes everything on your phone. Worked for me although I didn't install the froyo update as I am scared of the bootloader.

[Q] I'm rooted and I still don't have the 2.2 do I have to unroot?

I have a rooted HTC evo I still haven't gotten the update do I have to unroot to be able to download 2.2(froyo). I just want the update what do I have to do?

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=A9AI5RM9
Thats the RUU, apply this update and you'll be completely stock 2.2

what do you mean apply I've downloaded this before I can't find the file to download and when I try to open it it says it doesn't have a program to open.

If you are rooted Most Roms will not allow an OTA to come through.
you have options the option listed above will unroot you and install 2.2.
the other option is to go to the dev forum and download a 2.2 custom rom or the rooted 2.2 stock rom. flash those and you are good to go.
I will remind that currently there is no way to root 2.2 so if you choose to go through the RUU and go to stock rom that way you will NOT be able to root at this time. It could also be WEEKS before a root method is found. I dont know why anyone would want to or would suggest doing this unless you plan to take it in to sprint for repair.

How do I apply the first file?

kidcjay25 said:
I have a rooted HTC evo I still haven't gotten the update do I have to unroot to be able to download 2.2(froyo). I just want the update what do I have to do?
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No you do not need to unroot. If you accept that ota update it will take away your root because the rom it puts in isn't rooted. I happened to download and try out froyo 2.2 like 3 days ago to see how it functions. It works very well however the update killed my hotspot completely. I ended up restoring back from Froyo 2.2. I will give a link that will take you to the downloads to do it where the rom comes rooted, and the radio and wimax drivers are there as well. Here it is.... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=740520 One thing to remember is this is not the absolute final build that is pushed out on the OTA update that they have done today. So my guess is very very soon if not already there will be a posted and rooted version of the final build. I am unsure and I am almost positive nothing is every final, but I don't know if you will be able to re-root your evo if you just accept the update from Sprint. If you no longer want a rooted phone and all you care about is getting the update, then you can or will have gotten the request today from sprint as I did or you can look for the update manually in system updates, from settings at the home page. Hope that helps and take care.

kidcjay25 said:
How do I apply the first file?
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I strongly suggest you do not just get stock 2.2 because you have no idea if you will ever root again. Unless your taking it into sprint it makes no sense. I really do not want to attempt to get you that file because its a massive mistake. The download does work though i already tried it that much i can say. See if someone else will actually tell you what you need to do because i'm not sure i can bring myself to do it sorry. I am slightly unsure how you ended up rooting your phone if you are having trouble with a download that has an executable file as in you click on it and it runs If you however need help downloading or flashing or whatever the other stuff that i linked that i will definately try to assist you with. If you flash a stock rom you can and will get the message to update the system and you can manually look for it too. The roms have that disabled so people can't due to ignorance, apply the update then say, "Oh crap I am not rooted how do I fix it?", which we will see a lot of today.

[Q] Official Verizon HTC incredible Froyo Update (Coming tomorrow)

Engadget states that Verizon is going to push the official 2.2 Froyo update tomorrow for all HTC incredible users.
IF this is true I have a few questions. I'm currently rooted and running Sky Raider 3.0 RC2. I did a nand backup of my old original 2.1 Stock sense rom. If i revert back to that, can I just check for updates and apply the new stock 2.2 Froyo rom that is pushed from verizon?
Thanks,
ej_424

It is true. Unlike previous rumors, VZW employees were told today (this afternoon) and it shows on their bulletin screens now.

That and sometime between 1pm and 2:30pm they updated the support page.
So who's gonna jump in and who's gonna wait?

Please answer my question on how to go about updating. I'll jump in but want to knwo what process i have to take. Is there a chance that I wont be able to re-root if i go with the OTA update?

why go through the trouble of unrooting and going back to stock just to receive an update "officially" thats already been rooted and simplified here in 2 threads?

mb02 said:
why go through the trouble of unrooting and going back to stock just to receive an update "officially" thats already been rooted and simplified here in 2 threads?
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Honestly.. It's pre-rooted, and is almost positively the exact same as the official OTA.. why bother?

ej_424 said:
Please answer my question on how to go about updating. I'll jump in but want to knwo what process i have to take. Is there a chance that I wont be able to re-root if i go with the OTA update?
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Honestly there is so much information out there. Do what I did when I first got my Incredible. Do a search, and read, read, read. Mind you when you're done your head is going to be spinning. But that is the best way to get all the information you need.

To answer your question.
it was said along time ago that accepting the 2.2 OTA may cause you to not be able to re-root.
now, unrevoked forever takes S-OFF and with this you can accept the 2.2 OTA and still keep root, it was permanent, but with the new release of S-ON there is absolutely no reason not to use S-OFF, then un-root, if you want the "official" 2.2.

I thought that SkyRaider 2.5.2 and 3.0 were built off of the previous leak of FroYo 2.2...am I wrong? I love SkyRaider Vanilla, so I don't get giving that up for an "official" OTA? Maybe it is for some, but I don't see what else you'd really get that you don't have yet that was built into the 2.2 ROM's...

Mods will probably move this to Q and A,
But, you have to provide more info as what radio you are on, hboot.., etc. There are several threads started providing info as to how to prepare yourself...
I mean, the leak OTA has been ripped apart and placed all of this forum. The only thing you can get from verizon will be the satisfaction of a cool Blockbuster app and more vzw crapware, but hey if its what you want

RMarkwald said:
I thought that SkyRaider 2.5.2 and 3.0 were built off of the previous leak of FroYo 2.2...am I wrong? I love SkyRaider Vanilla, so I don't get giving that up for an "official" OTA? Maybe it is for some, but I don't see what else you'd really get that you don't have yet that was built into the 2.2 ROM's...
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Skyraider pre2.0 was based off an evo port, yes. 2.0 and onward is based off the leak, hence the necessity of the radio upgrade.

Gotcha. That's what I thought, as when I installed SkyRaider 2.2, I remember getting an email saying "thanks for registering your Nexus One" or something like that... Thank you for confirming, much appreciated!

Your recovery image must be stock as well. There are several threads that provide the needed file to return the DInc back to 100% stock/pre-root (just make sure S-OFF is applied first).

Mandatory OTA?
I read the pdf files from Verizon's website on the expected 2.2 OTA, and it says it is MANDATORY. That the only options it gives you are install and DELAY install. That it will keep bugging you every 30 minutes til you do !
I have used Unrevoked3, and Unrevoked Forever and love the phone as it is now (particularly the wifi tether). I want to avoid the OTA but do I HAVE to accept it? If I do, I hope I can reload the version I got with Unrevoked3.
(I assume that Verizon will, in their new version make you PAY to wifi tether)
Any info on this?
Thanks

charlier26 said:
I read the pdf files from Verizon's website on the expected 2.2 OTA, and it says it is MANDATORY. That the only options it gives you are install and DELAY install. That it will keep bugging you every 30 minutes til you do !
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I'll be pissed if thats the case. gotta do everything all over again. But if we're already @ 2.2 shouldn't it recognize that and not force the OTA to even appear on our phones?
I'm still pretty new to this so sorry if I sound like a complete outsider lol

For those of us who've rooted, forever'd, upgraded radio, and installed some leaked version of Froyo already -- if/when we get prompted to update the phone should we accept or deny it?
With the OTA update will be a radio update as well. And if they attempt to install over the same version won't that be the same as manually attempting to update it twice which equals brick?
Or will the update detect an upgraded radio already and skip that step?

Hackenstein said:
For those of us who've rooted, forever'd, upgraded radio, and installed some leaked version of Froyo already -- if/when we get prompted to update the phone should we accept or deny it?
With the OTA update will be a radio update as well. And if they attempt to install over the same version won't that be the same as manually attempting to update it twice which equals brick?
Or will the update detect an upgraded radio already and skip that step?
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IIRC, you will only be prompted if you have sock recovery installed. As for the OTA, it includes updates to the radio and HBOOT. The update doesn't check to see if you already have an upgraded radio because, in theory, no consumer should have it yet.

najaboy said:
The update doesn't check to see if you already have an upgraded radio because, in theory, no consumer should have it yet.
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If this is the case, there will be a whole lot of bricks out there, right? I thought I read that if you flash a radio twice you're bricked. Maybe not with S_Off.

PIYIRIO said:
If this is the case, there will be a whole lot of bricks out there, right? I thought I read that if you flash a radio twice you're bricked. Maybe not with S_Off.
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Not a 100% sure but I think its only if you flash a radio.diff twice you get brick.
Never the less just don't have the updated radio with old builds and stock recovery and all should be fine.
Sent from my ADR6300 using XDA App

Nope
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If this is the case, there will be a whole lot of bricks out there, right? I thought I read that if you flash a radio twice you're bricked. Maybe not with S_Off.
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That applied because the prior unrEVOked hack was simply a diff ... it patched. So if you apply the patch to the patch, THEN you brick. Flashing a wholesale radio (while higher on the danger scale) is not the same.

Upgrade Motorola Milestone to 2.2 or 2.3

Hi!
I have a Motorola Milestone with Android 2.1 and wanted to upgrade to 2.2 or 2.3.
I installed it a 2GB micro sd card.
So, after googling a lot and watched lots of videos about how to do this upgrade, I was able to root my phone and install Rom Manager. After Rom Manager was installed, I ran the "ClockworkMod Recovery", selected my phone model and it showed that the process was succesful.
After that, the first step I wanted to do prior to upgrading was to backup the current rom using the Rom Manager, but after I hit "Backup current rom", it restarts the phone, shows the exclamation icon along with the phone icon and it sits forever and nothing happens. It shows nothing but the exclamation and phone icon, no messages of what is happening, nothing at all.
I had manually to press the power button in order to reboot it.
(I read in a post that redoing the clockworkmod recovery again would do the trick, but the problem persists).
What could be happening with the rom backup process?
If that issue is solved, I would appreciate if you recommend me which android version would be the best for my specific model: 2.2 or 2.3 and which should be the apropriate guide I would follow in order to upgrade my phone's android.
Thanks in advance!
Pish

rolandpish said:
Hi!
I have a Motorola Milestone with Android 2.1 and wanted to upgrade to 2.2 or 2.3.
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I do not understand you because there is an official 2.2 update download by Motorola Software Update tool
so why to root etc and about Rom Manager was a bad idea to use it too bad because that's nice device
now use this thread to return to stock rom if this is not working return it to the shop/service
also a collection of roms for Milestone here

ruscan.calin said:
I do not understand you because there is an official 2.2 update download by Motorola Software Update tool
so why to root etc and about Rom Manager was a bad idea to use it too bad because that's nice device
now use this thread to return to stock rom if this is not working return it to the shop/service
also a collection of roms for Milestone here
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Thanks for your reply ruscan.
The phone is still working without problems with Android 2.1. I just wanted to update it to 2.2 or 2.3 to be able to install applications on my SD card since this is not possible with 2.1.
I'll research about updating it with Motorola Software Update tool, but if you recommend me to stay in 2.1 I'll do it
Thanks a lot.

rolandpish said:
Thanks for your reply ruscan.
The phone is still working without problems with Android 2.1. I just wanted to update it to 2.2 or 2.3 to be able to install applications on my SD card since this is not possible with 2.1.
I'll research about updating it with Motorola Software Update tool, but if you recommend me to stay in 2.1 I'll do it
Thanks a lot.
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Android 2.2 is first version to include support to move apps to sdcard so update it to official 2.2 also try a custom rom based on Cyanogenmod/ MIUI if you want but if you don't have enough experience with flashing is better to stay on stock rom at this time (I suppose you never flashed a new rom on your phone)
If you want to stay on 2.1 then install an app like app2sd or other from Market
well, to answer your question your first flash/update should be Froyo- it's good enough also this is official update so no risk there ...then experiment others but read a lot about and choose a rom with detailed instructions also use a laptop on battery to upgrade if something is wrong when flashing you are entering a lot of troubles

rolandpish said:
Thanks for your reply ruscan.
The phone is still working without problems with Android 2.1. I just wanted to update it to 2.2 or 2.3 to be able to install applications on my SD card since this is not possible with 2.1.
I'll research about updating it with Motorola Software Update tool, but if you recommend me to stay in 2.1 I'll do it
Thanks a lot.
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I recommend that you upgrade to 7.2.0 CyanogenMod ... in this issue "http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=941346" and here's a guide on how to do it from your stock rom .. "http://www.mrmuh.com/2012/01/update-a-motorola-milestone-from-motorola-firmware-to-cyanogenmod-7/" ..

Thanks for your replies!
Well, I executed the Motorola Software Update and my Milestone was updated to 2.2.1 and now I'm able to move apps to the SD card.
It is running without any problems, that's great
I'll wait for some days to see how my phone goes with this Android version and decide if I stay there or look forward to upgrade to Cyanogen mod.
Just a last quick question (not related to this original post), this 2.2.1 still has the original apps tab at the bottom of the screen. How can I replace it with the new launcher that Froyo is suppossed to have?
Thanks again for your help!

rolandpish said:
Thanks for your replies!
Well, I executed the Motorola Software Update and my Milestone was updated to 2.2.1 and now I'm able to move apps to the SD card.
It is running without any problems, that's great
I'll wait for some days to see how my phone goes with this Android version and decide if I stay there or look forward to upgrade to Cyanogen mod.
Just a last quick question (not related to this original post), this 2.2.1 still has the original apps tab at the bottom of the screen. How can I replace it with the new launcher that Froyo is suppossed to have?
Thanks again for your help!
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thanks to give me feedback it's very important to me -to learn from others' experience
well, that's not easy to replace it's integrated in framework/launcher code better is to install a new launcher from market but post here a picture to see more about that
if you root your device and want to make changes to system perform a system backup before

ruscan.calin said:
thanks to give me feedback it's very important to me -to learn from others' experience
well, that's not easy to replace it's integrated in framework/launcher code better is to install a new launcher from market but post here a picture to see more about that
if you root your device and want to make changes to system perform a system backup before
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Thank you ruscan!
I think I will look in the market for some launchers, although I still like the apps tab anyway
Cheers

rolandpish said:
Thank you ruscan!
I think I will look in the market for some launchers, although I still like the apps tab anyway
Cheers
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thanks Roland for appreciations !
well, I was sure that update will work do not forget that Motorola made the first cell phone what the hell ! :laugh:
also Milestone is a really beautiful phone as design and more...