T-Mobile is being very tricky and devious with blocking tethering - T-Mobile LG G3

So over the past week, I've discovered that Fabio Grasso's Wifi Tether Router app has stopped working for my t-mobile LG G3. I tried different configurations, tried e-mailing the dev, and I tried changing the APN. None of it worked.
(Regarding the APN, he says to change T-Mobile to IPv4, but I can only change it to IPv4/IPv6. If I try putting solely IPv4, then my data connection drops out entirely).
Moving on, anyway, I've found out that if I use the Wifi tether router app, I can only access HTTPS sites. For example, any banking site, facebook, google, yahoo, etc. all work as long as I stick https:// in front of it. However, anything else won't work (like xda).
So I can only assume that T-mobile is somehow blocking that traffic...and now I need a way to disguise my own traffic...
I tried connecting through OpenVPN through a VPN I had, but even that won't connect properly.
And before anybody says to install the stock tether app Mod, I'm still on the stock recovery so I can't flash anything.
I'm on the stock recovery (but I'm still rooted) because I prefer to mess with my device as little as possible. I want to keep it as stable as possible, and having a stock recovery means I'm not tempted to go out and install new ROMs or flash anything that could potentially brick my device.
So...does anybody have any solutions? This is like a tug-of-war with T-Mobile, and right now it's in their favor.

This is old news. T-mobile made it knonw they would start blocking tether if it is being mistreated. Devs will have to become more clever and trickier with their apps. With this in mind, just be careful. They said anything that goes against the contract you signed regarding their data usage / tethering will cause your tethering to be cut of if data not cut of for that month (can't remember the full detail)

mgbotoe said:
This is old news. T-mobile made it knonw they would start blocking tether if it is being mistreated. Devs will have to become more clever and trickier with their apps. With this in mind, just be careful. They said anything that goes against the contract you signed regarding their data usage / tethering will cause your tethering to be cut of if data not cut of for that month (can't remember the full detail)
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Well this is the first time I've experienced any issues. I have a total of 11gb usage this month, and it's almost over. 95% of usage is on mobile, so I see no reason for them to even become suspicious. I doubt I'll be cut off. The "warning" they gave a couple weeks ago referred to like 20 customers or something that were using hundreds of gigs of data.
In any case, I really hope devs can find permanent ways around this.
By the way, I don't really understand ports/encryption, but I know that "443" is secured, so how possible is it for me to just manually make everything go through that port?

crazylilazn said:
So over the past week, I've discovered that Fabio Grasso's Wifi Tether Router app has stopped working for my t-mobile LG G3. I tried different configurations, tried e-mailing the dev, and I tried changing the APN. None of it worked.
(Regarding the APN, he says to change T-Mobile to IPv4, but I can only change it to IPv4/IPv6. If I try putting solely IPv4, then my data connection drops out entirely).
Moving on, anyway, I've found out that if I use the Wifi tether router app, I can only access HTTPS sites. For example, any banking site, facebook, google, yahoo, etc. all work as long as I stick https:// in front of it. However, anything else won't work (like xda).
So I can only assume that T-mobile is somehow blocking that traffic...and now I need a way to disguise my own traffic...
I tried connecting through OpenVPN through a VPN I had, but even that won't connect properly.
And before anybody says to install the stock tether app Mod, I'm still on the stock recovery so I can't flash anything.
I'm on the stock recovery (but I'm still rooted) because I prefer to mess with my device as little as possible. I want to keep it as stable as possible, and having a stock recovery means I'm not tempted to go out and install new ROMs or flash anything that could potentially brick my device.
So...does anybody have any solutions? This is like a tug-of-war with T-Mobile, and right now it's in their favor.
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Download THIS zip and extract it then find the APN XML and replace your old one with the one in the zip you extracted. Boom you should have full ipv4 for your tether app and vpn.
Make sure you rename instead of completely replacing. You'll probably need to restart and if it still doesn't work that means dalvik needs to be wiped and your Sol unless you want to install twrp. Unless a app exists that can wipe dalvik without recovery.

ThePagel said:
Download THIS zip and extract it then find the APN XML and replace your old one with the one in the zip you extracted. Boom you should have full ipv4 for your tether app and vpn.
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Okay now this is getting interesting.
Although this is getting into brick-able territory. With my LG G2 when I messed with build.prop I almost soft-bricked it.
In any case, I can't seem to find out exactly how to modify the APN XML, and a quick google search is just showing me "apns-conf.xml", is that the same thing? Is it just a value inside build.prop?
Also, the warning on the xda mod page says "TETHER BROKE FOR NOW". Does that only apply to stock tether or something?
Edit: Nevermind, looked through the zip file and it turns out the apns-conf.xml file is under system/etc.
I'm still worried that this could cause some damage though. Lemme just double check - not brickable if I just replace, correct? and Also, I can create a backup of the apns-conf.xml and restore it without any issue, correct?

crazylilazn said:
Okay now this is getting interesting.
Although this is getting into brick-able territory. With my LG G2 when I messed with build.prop I almost soft-bricked it.
In any case, I can't seem to find out exactly how to modify the APN XML, and a quick google search is just showing me "apns-conf.xml", is that the same thing? Is it just a value inside build.prop?
Also, the warning on the xda mod page says "TETHER BROKE FOR NOW". Does that only apply to stock tether or something?
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Yes stock tether but the APN in that zip won't wreck it its the build prop edits that broke built-in tether. You won't need to do any builp prop edits just swap out your APN.XML for the one located in that zip.

ThePagel said:
Yes stock tether but the APN in that zip won't wreck it its the build prop edits that broke built-in tether. You won't need to do any builp prop edits just swap out your APN.XML for the one located in that zip.
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Alright cool, well I looked through the zip file and I found what to replace, just wanted to double check though (made an edit above but you won't get the notification for that)
So to be clear - I change the apns-conf.xml file under system/etc , correct?
and 2) This has no possibility of breaking my device?
and 3) If I create a backup of my current apns-conf.xml , and then in the future I want to restore that backup, there will be no issue/conflict?
Thanks for the help

crazylilazn said:
Alright cool, well I looked through the zip file and I found what to replace, just wanted to double check though (made an edit above but you won't get the notification for that)
So to be clear - I change the apns-conf.xml file under system/etc , correct?
and 2) This has no possibility of breaking my device?
and 3) If I create a backup of my current apns-conf.xml , and then in the future I want to restore that backup, there will be no issue/conflict?
Thanks for the help
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1 yes
2 always the possibility but extremely unlikely
3 yes but just like #2 you could possibly run into complications but its unlikely.
---------- Post added at 11:34 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:22 PM ----------
I'm going to bed if you don't have data or 4g upon reboot go into network mode and select gsm/wcdma/lte

ThePagel said:
1 yes
2 always the possibility but extremely unlikely
3 yes but just like #2 you could possibly run into complications but its unlikely.
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I'm going to bed if you don't have data or 4g upon reboot go into network mode and select gsm/wcdma/lte
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I looked through that entire thread last night, and I discovered that somebody was having issues with Wifi calling after installing the mod, so I got nervous and backed out even though I've already created a backup of the xml, lol.
Do you know if wifi calling + texting still works? That's a dealbreaker for me if it doesn't, because I use wifi calling/texting all the time.

crazylilazn said:
I looked through that entire thread last night, and I discovered that somebody was having issues with Wifi calling after installing the mod, so I got nervous and backed out even though I've already created a backup of the xml, lol.
Do you know if wifi calling + texting still works? That's a dealbreaker for me if it doesn't, because I use wifi calling/texting all the time.
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They do I use it every day.

crazylilazn said:
Alright cool, well I looked through the zip file and I found what to replace, just wanted to double check though (made an edit above but you won't get the notification for that)
So to be clear - I change the apns-conf.xml file under system/etc , correct?
and 2) This has no possibility of breaking my device?
and 3) If I create a backup of my current apns-conf.xml , and then in the future I want to restore that backup, there will be no issue/conflict?
Thanks for the help
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apns-conf.xml does not break WiFi calling or texting. This is where the tethering APN is stored. What could break WiFi calling is modifying build.prop.
I'm pretty sure they have deep packet inspection on their network and they can tell exactly what kind of traffic is being done. Any traffic using the fast.t-mobile.com APN that doesn't look like mobile can be very easily blocked. You can't deep packet inspect SSL (https) traffic, so I'm not surprised this works but everything else does not. An SSL VPN would get around this.
I'm using the PrimeTether mod which basically modifies the stock tethering to use the mobile APN so that your data looks like it's coming from the phone. WiFi Tether Router might be doing something different that T-Mobile can see and that's how they are blocking it. It actually might be that WiFi Tether Router is tethering using IPV4. The stock tether app tethers with IPV6.

havanahjoe said:
apns-conf.xml does not break WiFi calling or texting. This is where the tethering APN is stored. What could break WiFi calling is modifying build.prop.
I'm pretty sure they have deep packet inspection on their network and they can tell exactly what kind of traffic is being done. Any traffic using the fast.t-mobile.com APN that doesn't look like mobile can be very easily blocked. You can't deep packet inspect SSL (https) traffic, so I'm not surprised this works but everything else does not. An SSL VPN would get around this.
I'm using the PrimeTether mod which basically modifies the stock tethering to use the mobile APN so that your data looks like it's coming from the phone. WiFi Tether Router might be doing something different that T-Mobile can see and that's how they are blocking it. It actually might be that WiFi Tether Router is tethering using IPV4. The stock tether app tethers with IPV6.
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The prime tether changes one line in the framework-res to the fast APN. At least that's all I had to do. I never released my version because auto beat me to the upload.

ThePagel said:
The prime tether changes one line in the framework-res to the fast APN. At least that's all I had to do. I never released my version because auto beat me to the upload.
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He changed more than that. I had made that change to framework-res but was still having issues with my stock tether. There's a check being done by the tether process. I believe he modified the smali code to get around this, just like it had to be done for the G2.

havanahjoe said:
He changed more than that. I had made that change to framework-res but was still having issues with my stock tether. There's a check being done by the tether process. I believe he modified the smali code to get around this, just like it had to be done for the G2.
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Are you sure? The change plus the APN XML I use worked flawlessly for me. Perhaps it was just the perfect storm of mods I had at the time.

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Are you sure? The change plus the APN XML I use worked flawlessly for me. Perhaps it was just the perfect storm of mods I had at the time.
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I believe so, but could be wrong. I couldn't get it to work and had zeroed in on the smali file that needed to be changed. I believe I did a checksum comparison and found them to be different.
Without prime's mod I could only tether up to my 3 GB bucket or had to do a dirty hack to hostapd for it to allow wireless clients to connect. It would default to 0 clients for some reason. Maybe I had a weird storm of mods that broke it.

havanahjoe said:
I'm using the PrimeTether mod which basically modifies the stock tethering to use the mobile APN so that your data looks like it's coming from the phone. WiFi Tether Router might be doing something different that T-Mobile can see and that's how they are blocking it. It actually might be that WiFi Tether Router is tethering using IPV4. The stock tether app tethers with IPV6.
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The way you worded that, you describe Prime's mod as using IPv6 to work around Tmo's tether limit, but it doesn't, it must use IPv4 to "mask" it.
When I change the APN back to IPv6, my hotspot enables but does not work whatsoever, nothing loads on my laptop, it'll connect and obtain an IP but no traffic is sent nor received over the phone's data. Can't remember if it's suppose to be like that or not, but IPv4 works, IPv6 does not with hotspot, but data stills work either way on the phone itself. I'll post over in Prime's thread about this.
BTW, WiFi Tether Router borked for me two about three weeks ago, a few days after Prime's mod came up, luckily. Been using it ever since. :highfive:

JustLok said:
The way you worded that, you describe Prime's mod as using IPv6 to work around Tmo's tether limit, but it doesn't, it must use IPv4 to "mask" it.
When I change the APN back to IPv6, my hotspot enables but does not work whatsoever, nothing loads on my laptop, it'll connect and obtain an IP but no traffic is sent nor received over the phone's data. Can't remember if it's suppose to be like that or not, but IPv4 works, IPv6 does not with hotspot, but data stills work either way on the phone itself. I'll post over in Prime's thread about this.
BTW, WiFi Tether Router borked for me two about three weeks ago, a few days after Prime's mod came up, luckily. Been using it ever since. :highfive:
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It has been a while so I forgot how Prime and WiFi Tether Router worked. The stock tether app, with the stock tethering APN uses IPV6, but you're right, Prime's mod uses IPV4 with the mobile data APN.
WiFi Tether Router implements its own DHCP server, iptables and hostapd configuration. Something in the way it does things makes the traffic look different from the stock tether traffic, so T-Mobile is able to block it.

havanahjoe said:
It has been a while so I forgot how Prime and WiFi Tether Router worked. The stock tether app, with the stock tethering APN uses IPV6, but you're right, Prime's mod uses IPV4 with the mobile data APN.
WiFi Tether Router implements its own DHCP server, iptables and hostapd configuration. Something in the way it does things makes the traffic look different from the stock tether traffic, so T-Mobile is able to block it.
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This is remarkable to me. It SHOULD look completely the same with the exception of user-agent (which is easy to spoof).
I've been using EasyTether (the USB version) and they have yet to figure out how to block that AFAICT.

starkruzr said:
This is remarkable to me. It SHOULD look completely the same with the exception of user-agent (which is easy to spoof).
I've been using EasyTether (the USB version) and they have yet to figure out how to block that AFAICT.
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That was my assumption, but I don't see why it would be different either.
I just tried WiFi Tether Router on my phone and it worked just as well as it had in the past. I did some tcpdumps and the traffic looks the same on both. My guess then would be the users that are getting throttled or blocked are doing things that are CLEARLY not mobile phone traffic.
Another user did 32 GB of Xbox Live traffic while using the PrimeTether mod and was throttled. Surprise? No.
Those getting blocked or throttled are probably abusing the system.

Wifi tether router works for me on my tmobile S5.

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Slide Isssue. $$$ Reward.

This goes under development because its a problem with my phone regarding the development so before the cyanogen rom release i had eugene's froyo5 and it worked fine.. well my fiance picked up the phone ****ed around with it and now no matter what 2.2 rom i use i can't get INTERNET sites to load or.. MARKET to sync my account or communicate this is with cyanogen rom and eugene's froyo6.. now my wifi will see connections connect and even gather info/ip addy from the wifi however it will not let me load pages ect.. now in 2.1 running the old RADIO + Slidemeroot5 or whatever it's called the stock with root it will go into the wifi/find/communincate and load my MARKET/INTERNET just fine.. so it has to be with a setting that would stay threw data/cache wipe with Cyanogen Kanged heres the thing.. I've wiped many times I've even tried restoring old backups from froyo5 they no longer let me sync/internet/market so.. anyone who can find a solution will receive an IMMEDIATE $20.00 donate and if done in a timely fashion an addition $10.00...
I will not be able to RE-ROOT or UN-ROOT my phone as i do not have my USB cable anymore
check your APN settings dude
Virus, what is with you and trouble?! You two always seem to find each other...
Tuba is right it sounds like your apn settings are wrong or deleted.
tubaking182 said:
check your APN settings dude
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what do you mean?
sino8r said:
Virius, what is with you and trouble?! You two always seem to find each other...
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No... Bad-Luck and me seem to be on everyday terms
Your not on t-mobile, so you need to change your APN settings to att
settings>wireless settings>mobile networks>apn settings, then you should be able to add the correct APNs or see what is listed there
tubaking182 said:
settings>wireless settings>mobile networks>apn settings, then you should be able to add the correct APNs or see what is listed there
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no APN listed
Virus1x said:
what do you mean?
No... Bad-Luck and me seem to be on everyday terms
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Lol! Yeah, it sounds about right. I have'd had that streak before.
menu, settings, wireless networks, mobile networks, access point name
Google tmobile apn android and they'll list the proper apn settings. I don't have time to type them all out right now.
oppsy, I see some folks beat me to it and you need the at&t settings anyways. Just google at&t android apn settings. That should do it.
you will need proper APN setting for your carrier, google that shiz and you should be good to go, then you will just need to add the APN to your phone from that same screen
apns are different for each carrier, google APN <carrier> mytouch slide(or just android)
sino8r said:
Lol! Yeah, it sounds about right. I have'd had that streak before.
menu, settings, wireless networks, mobile networks, access point name
Google tmobile apn android and they'll list the proper apn settings. I don't have time to type them all out right now.
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I don't have a DATA plan so data is turned off will this matter? also I'm on AT&T
Virus1x said:
I don't have a DATA plan so data is turned off will this matter? also I'm on AT&T
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Huh? No data plan huh. Yeah, that will matter. Umm, so you have been using wifi to access internet right?
Okay from what I understand... wifi is real iffy with the 2.2 ports. You might have to select static and type in your ip settings from your pc. Just go on the pc and run command prompt and type ipconfig. That will tell your ip setting and enter them into the correct slots on your phone. Its under menu settings wireless& networks wifi settings menu advanced select static ip
well is data is off then you aren't going to be getting on the interwebs, are you saying that with wifi you can't load pages?
tubaking182 said:
well is data is off then you aren't going to be getting on the interwebs, are you saying that with wifi you can't load pages?
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Yeah, he's basically saying wifi isnt sending data to the phone. I edited my previous post to show him how to set up a static network.
tubaking182 said:
well is data is off then you aren't going to be getting on the interwebs, are you saying that with wifi you can't load pages?
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yes I had wifi working fine on newslide.zip or myupdate.zip from eugene and all builds before in last 2 days wifis has stopped working... unknown why
Reread the first post. It says my WIFI will connect info and all that and above he states he doesn't have a data plan so its going to have to be wifi hes on.
Now I am having the same problem ever since I flashed the ROM and wiped twice and reflashed twice. Trying static IP now.
alas no luck on STATIC, question is why would I need to set up static when it should auto connect and auto know ya know? i'd like to be able to use WIFI outside of my home aswell
So right now it doesn't work on any rom now? If it's the cyan kernel, try dumfuq's oc kernel, I know it sounds strange but i tried one of cyan's kernel and somethings stopped working, led flashlight is one...Tried the new dumfuq and it worked for me. No promises though that it will work for your wifi problem.
your ip address of your router is 192.168.0.1 which means that your IP address of your phone will have to be 192.168.0.x since the computer is 192.168.0.199 i would try something around the 199 range(try going plus or minus 10) so either 192.168.0.189 or 192.168.0.209
also you will have to set subnet mask to 255.255.255.0 and gateway to 192.168.0.1
Ace42 said:
So right now it doesn't work on any rom now? If it's the cyan kernel, try dumfuq's oc kernel, I know it sounds strange but i tried one of cyan's kernel and somethings stopped working, led flashlight is one...Tried the new dumfuq and it worked for me. No promises though that it will work for your wifi problem.
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will attempt wipe..
flash cyanogen rom
flash kernel
flash new radio
flash GAPPS
and tell ya
allows for surfing via browser doesn't fix my Market/google issue
ERROR from Market..
You don't have a network connection.
This could be a temporary problem or your phone may not be provisioned for data services. please try again when connected to a mobile network or connect to a wifi network, if the problem continues call customer service..
then gives me option to connect to wifi but i am connected
Virus1x said:
I don't have a DATA plan so data is turned off will this matter? also I'm on AT&T
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If it worked before on myfroyo 5, then push the apn.conf into /system/etc
or
You can try pushing the apn.conf file from the aria into /system/etc
then do a factory reset..
may or may not work
~Eugene

Tethering

What tethering apps do you guys use on your note 3?
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EasyTether Pro
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WiFi tether by Fabio. Been using it since he introduced it and he stayed with his app and fixed and guided through any problems I have. One of the best dollar bills I've spent on the android market IMHO
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nighthawk626 said:
WiFi tether by Fabio. Been using it since he introduced it and he stayed with his app and fixed and guided through any problems I have. One of the best dollar bills I've spent on the android market IMHO
sent from your moms bedroom. knock before you enter
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And they always get back to u fast and it works like a charm. best paid for tethering app for note 3 so far. He even gives out beta )
Sent from my SM-N900T using Tapatalk
Are they metered like the stock one?
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Are they metered like the stock one?
Sent from my SM-N900T using xda app-developers app
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I also vote for Fabios WiFi Tether router, I've had an issue and he kept working through it with me without delay. I usually got a response from him within 30 minutes.
I also run Private Internet Access VPN app on the phone, any device that connects to the hotspot is automatically encrypted through the VPN so Tmo can't tell what kind of traffic it is. I've used 30 gigs a month this way for months without an issue.
ilogik said:
I also vote for Fabios WiFi Tether router, I've had an issue and he kept working through it with me without delay. I usually got a response from him within 30 minutes.
I also run Private Internet Access VPN app on the phone, any device that connects to the hotspot is automatically encrypted through the VPN so Tmo can't tell what kind of traffic it is. I've used 30 gigs a month this way for months without an issue.
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Thanks for the info!
1. Is Private Internet Access (PIA) VPN app free?
I read somewhere about a $35 annual fee, but perhaps that is not needed?
2. So by encrypting the traffic, you're saying T-Mobile does not know whether the traffic is standard data usage (e.g. web browsing on the Note 3 itself) or whether the traffic (data being used) is from running a hotspot on the Note 3 and connecting to it from an external device (laptop, table etc.)?
Just interested in understanding the technology and alternatives better (I have not needed wifi tethering on my Note 3 so far, not even the included 2.5 GB but I enjoy understanding it all either way).
I have 2 methods that I use on my phone.
FIRST THING IS TO CREATE THE EXACT SAME TMOBILE APN EXCEPT CHANGE IT FROM IP6 TO IP4.
TO BE EXACT I JUST CREATE A 2ND APN AND IN THE WAP FIELD I USE "fast.t-mobile.com" I LEAVE ALL OTHER FIRLD BLANK.
When I want to send a MMS I just activate the TMobile Stock APN. When I tether I activate my custom APN.
Now the 1st method I use is using the STOCK TETHERING option.
Activate the Stock APN and Turn On Stock Tethering. "This is IF you have the 2.5GB tethering on your account.After the tethering is activated, on the computer you have to use a custom UA string on your web browser. For me I use "Google Chrome" and I installed the plugin "Ultimate User Agent Switcher" and I use the "Kindle" option. This will allow for full web access and TMobile will think your using a Kindle tablet.
Torrents also work since you have the ip4 APN activated.
My 2nd method is using USB Tethering to my PC with PDANet. Install PDANet on your phone and on the PC. And also have the custom APN activated in network settings. In PDANet Settings, go to HIDE TETHER USAGE VERSION 2. This will allow for FULL web use without the need for changing UA Strings.
With this method, I am also able to share the connection to my LAN port which is hooked to my NetGear Router so i can then ((RESHARE)) the connection again to my XBOX and PS3 and other devices allowing them to just connect to my router as normal.
Those are the 2 methods I use. I have LTE in my area and I do about 4MB/s or 40Mbps on average.
For this current month I have used at least 107GB for the month even though my plan is 2.5GB...
Twitter @FiberOpticsRLD if you have any questions, I rarely check my XDA inbox.
hypersonicx said:
I have 2 methods that I use on my phone.
FIRST THING IS TO CREATE THE EXACT SAME TMOBILE APN EXCEPT CHANGE IT FROM IP6 TO IP4.
TO BE EXACT I JUST CREATE A 2ND APN AND IN THE WAP FIELD I USE "fast.t-mobile.com" I LEAVE ALL OTHER FIRLD BLANK.
When I want to send a MMS I just activate the TMobile Stock APN. When I tether I activate my custom APN.
Now the 1st method I use is using the STOCK TETHERING option.
Activate the Stock APN and Turn On Stock Tethering. "This is IF you have the 2.5GB tethering on your account.After the tethering is activated, on the computer you have to use a custom UA string on your web browser. For me I use "Google Chrome" and I installed the plugin "Ultimate User Agent Switcher" and I use the "Kindle" option. This will allow for full web access and TMobile will think your using a Kindle tablet.
Torrents also work since you have the ip4 APN activated.
My 2nd method is using USB Tethering to my PC with PDANet. Install PDANet on your phone and on the PC. And also have the custom APN activated in network settings. In PDANet Settings, go to HIDE TETHER USAGE VERSION 2. This will allow for FULL web use without the need for changing UA Strings.
With this method, I am also able to share the connection to my LAN port which is hooked to my NetGear Router so i can then ((RESHARE)) the connection again to my XBOX and PS3 and other devices allowing them to just connect to my router as normal.
Those are the 2 methods I use. I have LTE in my area and I do about 4MB/s or 40Mbps on average.
For this current month I have used at least 107GB for the month even though my plan is 2.5GB...
Twitter @FiberOpticsRLD if you have any questions, I rarely check my XDA inbox.
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Thanks a lot for the detailed instructions and info.
I am a noob with Note 3 tethering options since I have not needed it at all (not even the 2.5 GB included), so I appreciate the specifics to help my understanding.
QUESTION re. method 1, "stock tethering, stock APN but UA switcher and custom UA profile (I assume this custom profile is done via UA switcher"?):
Does this method allow streaming on the connected device (laptop or tablet)? I.e. do I just need to go to my web browser to 'activate' the tethering connection?
Or do I need to do USB tethering with PDANet to allow streaming on the device that is tethered to my Note 3?
Thanks again!
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Thanks for the info!
1. Is Private Internet Access (PIA) VPN app free?
I read somewhere about a $35 annual fee, but perhaps that is not needed?
2. So by encrypting the traffic, you're saying T-Mobile does not know whether the traffic is standard data usage (e.g. web browsing on the Note 3 itself) or whether the traffic (data being used) is from running a hotspot on the Note 3 and connecting to it from an external device (laptop, table etc.)?
Just interested in understanding the technology and alternatives better (I have not needed wifi tethering on my Note 3 so far, not even the included 2.5 GB but I enjoy understanding it all either way).
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1. PIA service is not free, I got a deal off of slickdeals.net that came to something around $22 a year if I'm not mistaken. But even at $35 I think its worth it. I use it on my home PC and all my mobile devices. I don't need an ISP seeing what I browse
2. Yes, you're correct about T-Mobile not being able to differantiate the traffic. Once I forgot to turn on VPN and after a while I got redirected to their page stating that I've exceeded the allowance. As soon as I engaged VPN I was able to browse right away again.
3. Sure there are free alternatives that might work, but with this solution I know I'm 100% safe not only from exceeding my allowance but also from any other prying eyes
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1. PIA service is not free, I got a deal off of slickdeals.net that came to something around $22 a year if I'm not mistaken. But even at $35 I think its worth it. I use it on my home PC and all my mobile devices. I don't need an ISP seeing what I browse
2. Yes, you're correct about T-Mobile not being able to differantiate the traffic. Once I forgot to turn on VPN and after a while I got redirected to their page stating that I've exceeded the allowance. As soon as I engaged VPN I was able to browse right away again.
3. Sure there are free alternatives that might work, but with this solution I know I'm 100% safe not only from exceeding my allowance but also from any other prying eyes
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Using VPN does work. The problem I had with using a VPN is that you dont get your full 4G or full LTE speed since all your data has to be encrypted to go through the VPN server.
Using the 2 methods I provided you not only get to bypass the 2.5 GB but you all get FULL 4G LTE speeds to your tethered devices.
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njweb said:
Thanks a lot for the detailed instructions and info.
I am a noob with Note 3 tethering options since I have not needed it at all (not even the 2.5 GB included), so I appreciate the specifics to help my understanding.
QUESTION re. method 1, "stock tethering, stock APN but UA switcher and custom UA profile (I assume this custom profile is done via UA switcher"?):
Does this method allow streaming on the connected device (laptop or tablet)? I.e. do I just need to go to my web browser to 'activate' the tethering connection?
Or do I need to do USB tethering with PDANet to allow streaming on the device that is tethered to my Note 3?
Thanks again!
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Streaming on either of my methods work. If you go with the stock wifi tether, you just have to change your APN settings under network opetion on your phone from ip6 to ip4. THis is done by just creating a NEW APN and put in "fast.t-mobile.com" for your APN setting. After that is done, you can tether to other tablets or phones perfectly since those are mobile devices. For computers you have to change the UA String of your browser to a tablet or android device.
If you use the PDA Net method, you dont have to change the UA String, since the program itself has a way of blocking what kind of traffic is going through.
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Using VPN does work. The problem I had with using a VPN is that you dont get your full 4G or full LTE speed since all your data has to be encrypted to go through the VPN server.
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Strange, I did speedtests many times, in fact today after I read your post and with VPN on or off I get the exact same transfer speeds. I also have 50Mbps line at home and while on PIA VPN I get full 50Mbps transfer speeds...
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Strange, I did speedtests many times, in fact today after I read your post and with VPN on or off I get the exact same transfer speeds. I also have 50Mbps line at home and while on PIA VPN I get full 50Mbps transfer speeds...
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My tests where done using the Free VPN apps from the play store. Trying to keep costs down as much as possible which is why I use the non VPN methods.
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My tests where done using the Free VPN apps from the play store. Trying to keep costs down as much as possible which is why I use the non VPN methods.
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I guess the saying "you get what you pay for" applies in this case
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I guess the saying "you get what you pay for" applies in this case
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Yeah, so long story short, without VPN I still get full web access, and unlimited data.
Sharing the connection to my home Netgear router even extends the connection even further.
Love TMobile Unlimited data.
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Yeah, so long story short, without VPN I still get full web access, and unlimited data.
Sharing the connection to my home Netgear router even extends the connection even further.
Love TMobile Unlimited data.
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Could you explain how you share it with your home router? I would also like to do this. Thank you.
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Could you explain how you share it with your home router? I would also like to do this. Thank you.
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I use PDANet to Tether my phone via USB.
After that connection is established, depending on your version of windows, run your router to the LAN port on your computer and in NetWork Settings in Windows, set up ICS which is Internet Connection Sharing.
After that, you may have to power cycle the router to pick up the ip address and all that but from there, everything connected to the router will get full web access also. PDANet has a feature in the settings to hide your data traffic similer to using VPN so all data is counted as Phone Data and not Tethering.
At this rate, may be a while before I turn my Comcast back on. LTE also provides low latency and ping numbers.
Only down side I can see if during online games, when the NAT is more complex due to all the routing going on.
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I have 2 methods that I use on my phone.
FIRST THING IS TO CREATE THE EXACT SAME TMOBILE APN EXCEPT CHANGE IT FROM IP6 TO IP4.
TO BE EXACT I JUST CREATE A 2ND APN AND IN THE WAP FIELD I USE "fast.t-mobile.com" I LEAVE ALL OTHER FIRLD BLANK.
When I want to send a MMS I just activate the TMobile Stock APN. When I tether I activate my custom APN.
Now the 1st method I use is using the STOCK TETHERING option.
Activate the Stock APN and Turn On Stock Tethering. "This is IF you have the 2.5GB tethering on your account.After the tethering is activated, on the computer you have to use a custom UA string on your web browser. For me I use "Google Chrome" and I installed the plugin "Ultimate User Agent Switcher" and I use the "Kindle" option. This will allow for full web access and TMobile will think your using a Kindle tablet.
Torrents also work since you have the ip4 APN activated.
My 2nd method is using USB Tethering to my PC with PDANet. Install PDANet on your phone and on the PC. And also have the custom APN activated in network settings. In PDANet Settings, go to HIDE TETHER USAGE VERSION 2. This will allow for FULL web use without the need for changing UA Strings.
With this method, I am also able to share the connection to my LAN port which is hooked to my NetGear Router so i can then ((RESHARE)) the connection again to my XBOX and PS3 and other devices allowing them to just connect to my router as normal.
Those are the 2 methods I use. I have LTE in my area and I do about 4MB/s or 40Mbps on average.
For this current month I have used at least 107GB for the month even though my plan is 2.5GB...
Twitter @FiberOpticsRLD if you have any questions, I rarely check my XDA inbox.
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I use my tethering mostly for playing a few online games while I am at work(They really don't expect me to work the WHOLE time do they). It sounds like the second option would work better for me since the first option requires a UA switcher which you can't really for for say World of Warcraft. Is that accurate?
Why wouldn't you use wifi hotspot? Just curious. Weighing my options. Btw, thanks, I'm tethered using pdanet!
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I use PDANet to Tether my phone via USB.
After that connection is established, depending on your version of windows, run your router to the LAN port on your computer and in NetWork Settings in Windows, set up ICS which is Internet Connection Sharing.
After that, you may have to power cycle the router to pick up the ip address and all that but from there, everything connected to the router will get full web access also. PDANet has a feature in the settings to hide your data traffic similer to using VPN so all data is counted as Phone Data and not Tethering.
At this rate, may be a while before I turn my Comcast back on. LTE also provides low latency and ping numbers.
Only down side I can see if during online games, when the NAT is more complex due to all the routing going on.
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So I am currently on D Stalker V6 ROM AND Comp standard kernal. I am wifi tether router app. While wifi tethering my phone wont charge when plugex in through usb port or on wall charger even though on status bar it flashes current symbol on and off. The battery keeps discharging. Phone charges fine when not tethering
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WiFi Tether Router W/ Root is not working.

Hey All,
I just picked up my T-Mobile LG G3 last night and rooted it.
I am trying to use the tethering app like I did on the Nexus 5 but my other devices are not picking it up when I have it enabled on the new phone.
The app say's its enabled and shows the Name and passcode to join it, but again, no other devices that I was using before (ipad for example) see it when I scan for WiFi networks.
Can anyone please help? I use this app when at work and need to get it figured out and up and running again if possible.
Thank you,
Whiteice
Is the Wifi Tether Router app you're using by Fabio Grasso?
That's the one I was using on my Nexus 5 without any issues. I also just moved over to the Tmo G3 and can't seem to get any of my devices to pick up the SSID either. The developer says that it does work on the G3 and I also followed the settings laid out by the developer in his devices configuration page but still a no go. I emailed him to see if he may have some suggestions but no word yet. Hopefully he replies with something I/we can try to get this running. It was a great app on all my previous phones. I have faith in this developer, he seems to update his apps fairly regularly.
hoy128 said:
Is the Wifi Tether Router app you're using by Fabio Grasso?
That's the one I was using on my Nexus 5 without any issues. I also just moved over to the Tmo G3 and can't seem to get any of my devices to pick up the SSID either. The developer says that it does work on the G3 and I also followed the settings laid out by the developer in his devices configuration page but still a no go. I emailed him to see if he may have some suggestions but no word yet. Hopefully he replies with something I/we can try to get this running. It was a great app on all my previous phones. I have faith in this developer, he seems to update his apps fairly regularly.
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Yes that is the same app I'm using.
I contacted him and he replied back asking Me to send a log file from within the app. I Did that this morning and waiting For further feedback. If I hear anything I Will report back here.
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Yes that is the same app I'm using.
I contacted him and he replied back asking Me to send a log file from within the app. I Did that this morning and waiting For further feedback. If I hear anything I Will report back here.
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I had the SAME problem with the app with my G3 and I've been back and forth with him via email. I had to try a few methods he gave me but the last one finally did the trick!
Here's his email that had the steps to get it to work below:
strange, yes other users use this app on G3
please try this config
Interface wlan0
Method 2
Channel 1
Encryption wpa2-psk
"No Firmware Reload" <- UNCHECKED
Let me know
Thanks
Fabio
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It works now, because the settings on his site and his emails weren't working, but the above finally did it for me.
But I noticed the the DNS process, /system/bin/dnsmasq, was using on average 40% of my CPU constantly with the app enabled. So I checked the "Use Internal DHCP" in the DHCP settings and the process ended and the CPU use returned to normal.
I had asked in a reply if this app uses IP Tables to mask the hotspot use as mobile use or still shows up as Hotspot with T-Mobile. I wasn't sure if enabling or disabling the Internal DHCP would negate it or not, but he hasn't responded back yet.
Does anyone know if this app does mask it as mobile and not hotspot?
I just came off of Sprint to T-Mobile two days ago and I always used the native hotspot function on my rooted Note 3 that masked it as mobile use.
Hope it works for you guys as well.
JustLok said:
I had the SAME problem with the app with my G3 and I've been back and forth with him via email. I had to try a few methods he gave me but the last one finally did the trick!
Here's his email that had the steps to get it to work below:
It works now, because the settings on his site and his emails weren't working, but the above finally did it for me.
But I noticed the the DNS process, /system/bin/dnsmasq, was using on average 40% of my CPU constantly with the app enabled. So I checked the "Use Internal DHCP" in the DHCP settings and the process ended and the CPU use returned to normal.
I had asked in a reply if this app uses IP Tables to mask the hotspot use as mobile use or still shows up as Hotspot with T-Mobile. I wasn't sure if enabling or disabling the Internal DHCP would negate it or not, but he hasn't responded back yet.
Does anyone know if this app does mask it as mobile and not hotspot?
I just came off of Sprint to T-Mobile two days ago and I always used the native hotspot function on my rooted Note 3 that masked it as mobile use.
Hope it works for you guys as well.
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Just tried those settings and so far it appears to be working.
Thanks you Fabio,
Whiteice
Darn, I wish it was working for me. I found that on Fabio's page and used those settings but they're still not working for me. Also tried to use the internal DHCP option but still no dice. I just sent Fabio my log file, hopefully he finds something that can get me up and running.
Woo hoo...I overlooked the method. Just confirmed the strings above works. Thanks all/Fabio!
JustLok said:
I had the SAME problem with the app with my G3 and I've been back and forth with him via email. I had to try a few methods he gave me but the last one finally did the trick!
Here's his email that had the steps to get it to work below:
It works now, because the settings on his site and his emails weren't working, but the above finally did it for me.
But I noticed the the DNS process, /system/bin/dnsmasq, was using on average 40% of my CPU constantly with the app enabled. So I checked the "Use Internal DHCP" in the DHCP settings and the process ended and the CPU use returned to normal.
I had asked in a reply if this app uses IP Tables to mask the hotspot use as mobile use or still shows up as Hotspot with T-Mobile. I wasn't sure if enabling or disabling the Internal DHCP would negate it or not, but he hasn't responded back yet.
Does anyone know if this app does mask it as mobile and not hotspot?
I just came off of Sprint to T-Mobile two days ago and I always used the native hotspot function on my rooted Note 3 that masked it as mobile use.
Hope it works for you guys as well.
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I can confirm the above settings including the internal DHCP work perfect on my end also!
As a side note, it also appears that the data usage shows up on my T-Mo account as regular "Internet Access", not Hot Spot usage. Maybe I was looking at it wrong, or maybe my account hasn't fully updated yet, but it looks promising.
Thanks to JustLok for the tips!
Good to know it works. I tried it a few days ago and I didn't get any data, so I uninstalled it. Now that you guys confirm it's working, I might buy it.
I've been trying to get the stock tether to work. Found where to change the APN so that it doesn't use the pcweb one that tracks as hotspot, but I'm running into other issues, some other checks that need to be circumvented. This app is probably using the fast APN since pcweb is only listed deeply in the frameworks-res.apk of the G3 and those should never be used unless this app tries to tether as DUN (which I doubt).
Question, does this app have Tasker integration?
Just to clarify...'No firmware reload' should be checked or unchecked? Cheers!
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Just to clarify...'No firmware reload' should be checked or unchecked? Cheers!
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It would be unchecked, as listed in my post above in regards to the settings and tweaks to get it to work with D851 G3.
Also, been using it for days now and it does mask the tether use as mobile data and NOT as Hotspot data, as orbitalcomp confirmed, even using the internal DHCP server (which I was wondering if it would with the IP Table masking).
As for Tasker integration, I'm not sure what you mean havanahjoe with Tasker, as in the normal App Tasker or an app titled tasker?
I also noticed that my data connection just dies every so often, both on my G3 and my wife's G3. It show a connection with LTE and the data arrow up lit, but no data is moving. Even confirmed with the Internet Speed Meter Lite app that no data was being sent or received. I have to enable Airplane mode and then back off and the data connections becomes live again. I've read several reports of this on XDA too on Tmo G3's. This is either with the tether app or not, Tmo's data connection just stops working and needs to disconnect and reconnect to the tower/antenna to work again.
Finally, when using the widget for this tether app, when first tapping it (after a reboot or so), it does not enable it. You have to wait a little and then tap it again for it to enable. Once you get it to enable and become active, turning it on or off via the widget works on the first tap. It's just the first initial widget use upon a reboot that it takes two taps, about 5 secs apart to actually start up.
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It would be unchecked, as listed in my post above in regards to the settings and tweaks to get it to work with D851 G3.
Also, been using it for days now and it does mask the tether use as mobile data and NOT as Hotspot data, as orbitalcomp confirmed, even using the internal DHCP server (which I was wondering if it would with the IP Table masking).
As for Tasker integration, I'm not sure what you mean havanahjoe with Tasker, as in the normal App Tasker or an app titled tasker?
I also noticed that my data connection just dies every so often, both on my G3 and my wife's G3. It show a connection with LTE and the data arrow up lit, but no data is moving. Even confirmed with the Internet Speed Meter Lite app that no data was being sent or received. I have to enable Airplane mode and then back off and the data connections becomes live again. I've read several reports of this on XDA too on Tmo G3's. This is either with the tether app or not, Tmo's data connection just stops working and needs to disconnect and reconnect to the tower/antenna to work again.
Finally, when using the widget for this tether app, when first tapping it (after a reboot or so), it does not enable it. You have to wait a little and then tap it again for it to enable. Once you get it to enable and become active, turning it on or off via the widget works on the first tap. It's just the first initial widget use upon a reboot that it takes two taps, about 5 secs apart to actually start up.
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Thanks for the update and confirmation of mobile vs. Hotspot..which meets my own experience. FWIW, your settings quote from Fabio simply says "No Firmware Reload" and doesn't state checked or unchecked...which is why I asked. At least I can't see it on Tapatalk. [emoji4]
Sent from my amazing LGG3!
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It would be unchecked, as listed in my post above in regards to the settings and tweaks to get it to work with D851 G3.
Also, been using it for days now and it does mask the tether use as mobile data and NOT as Hotspot data, as orbitalcomp confirmed, even using the internal DHCP server (which I was wondering if it would with the IP Table masking).
As for Tasker integration, I'm not sure what you mean havanahjoe with Tasker, as in the normal App Tasker or an app titled tasker?
I also noticed that my data connection just dies every so often, both on my G3 and my wife's G3. It show a connection with LTE and the data arrow up lit, but no data is moving. Even confirmed with the Internet Speed Meter Lite app that no data was being sent or received. I have to enable Airplane mode and then back off and the data connections becomes live again. I've read several reports of this on XDA too on Tmo G3's. This is either with the tether app or not, Tmo's data connection just stops working and needs to disconnect and reconnect to the tower/antenna to work again.
Finally, when using the widget for this tether app, when first tapping it (after a reboot or so), it does not enable it. You have to wait a little and then tap it again for it to enable. Once you get it to enable and become active, turning it on or off via the widget works on the first tap. It's just the first initial widget use upon a reboot that it takes two taps, about 5 secs apart to actually start up.
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The hiding of the traffic is all about the APN. WiFi Tether Router uses the phone APN (fast.t-mobile.com) and the built-in hotspot uses pcweb.tmobile.com. That's why it's so easy to bypass, as long as WiFi Tether Router can do its thing by doing some iptables, dnsmasq and other Linux magic.
I have seen my LTE connection stop working from time to time. Not while tethering, but I rarely tether for more than 30 minutes at a time. Whenever I lose data, I just do the same, airplane mode on/off and it's back.
Tasker is an automation app. It's great for getting things done automatically. I use tethering in the car so that my dash mounted Nexus 7 can get internet. With Tasker, my hotspot is automatically turned on when I get in the car, and automatically turned off when I turn the car off. There is a method for applications to talk to each other in Android, these messages are called intents. With intents you can tell an app to shut down, to load a specific playlist (Spotify for example), or to enable/disable something. When using the stock Tether app, the system lets you toggle it with intents that Tasker already knows about. WiFi Tether Router has no intents, so there is no way to externally tell it to turn the hotspot on or off. The workaround is to emulate touching the enable/disable button (on the app or the widget). It's kludgy, but it works. It would be much cleaner and reliable if the dev enabled this functionality.
I tried the setting you suggested on the other thread, and by using Internal DHCP and not having WiFi Tether Router use DNSMasq to provide DHCP and DNS services, my battery drain is much more acceptable. I only lost 3% on my drive to work. I usually would lose 10% or more! This setting might be needed for other carriers where you do need to hide your data, but we don't have to worry about this with T-Mo.
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Tasker is an automation app. It's great for getting things done automatically. I use tethering in the car so that my dash mounted Nexus 7 can get internet. With Tasker, my hotspot is automatically turned on when I get in the car, and automatically turned off when I turn the car off. There is a method for applications to talk to each other in Android, these messages are called intents. With intents you can tell an app to shut down, to load a specific playlist (Spotify for example), or to enable/disable something. When using the stock Tether app, the system lets you toggle it with intents that Tasker already knows about. WiFi Tether Router has no intents, so there is no way to externally tell it to turn the hotspot on or off. The workaround is to emulate touching the enable/disable button (on the app or the widget). It's kludgy, but it works. It would be much cleaner and reliable if the dev enabled this functionality.
I tried the setting you suggested on the other thread, and by using Internal DHCP and not having WiFi Tether Router use DNSMasq to provide DHCP and DNS services, my battery drain is much more acceptable. I only lost 3% on my drive to work. I usually would lose 10% or more! This setting might be needed for other carriers where you do need to hide your data, but we don't have to worry about this with T-Mo.
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Thanks for that explanation on Tasker, when I mentioned it to my wife last night, she said she was already using it on her old HTC One M7, so much for me being ahead of the curve. Or on the curve even, I guess. :cyclops:
I have noticed when using the Wifi Tether App, sometimes my laptop won't or can't connect to the hotspot after a while using it. I use it for extended periods of time at work, hours on end even, and my laptop will just disconnect from my SSID and won't connect, despite it being live. The SSID is seen and the laptop tries to connect but then just says it cannot do so.
I need to reboot my laptop for it to connect to it again. I'm not sure if it's the IP lease on my laptop expired or wasn't renewed with the tether app. Unfortunately, I cannot perform an IP renew or release in CMD on my laptop, because it's disconnected and needs a connection to do it! So I can't narrow the error to that function or not.
When I use the native Hotspot with TMo, I didn't have this problem last week when I was using it for three days before getting the Tether app.
Just some experience with it so far, in case anyone else was seeing the same or so.
How the heck did you all get this app to work? I cant change my apn settings to ipv4 like he says too. Data cuts off when I do
after update to lollipop not working
I was trying different settings,
After factory reset T-mobile hotspot is working, but when I tried to run "WiFi Tether Router" even t-mobile hotspot is not working...
Are you guys using d851 with lollipop?
Could somebody post for me correct settings?
Thx
clfuadam said:
I was trying different settings,
After factory reset T-mobile hotspot is working, but when I tried to run "WiFi Tether Router" even t-mobile hotspot is not working...
Are you guys using d851 with lollipop?
Could somebody post for me correct settings?
Thx
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This app is broken in g2/g3 lollipop. It will also break built in tmo hotspot app as well and you would have to factory reset to get it working again. I switch back to kitkat just to use this app and also see no benefit in lollipop.. yet..
Can someone please help?
I can't get any of my computers to show the network name for WiFi tether router. I've never had this issue until today. My wife's phones doesn't have a problem, but mine won't show at all
I just switched to unlimited data on my LG G3 and got this app...
It works great with the G3 settings shown on the first page of this thread and on the app website. The speeds are the same on the device as on a client device so that's good...very fast LTE.
I originally tried setting the APN to LP4 (from default LP6) as the application directions stated must be done for T-Mobile but found that the network slowed (4G instead of LTE) and became somewhat unreliable. I'm wondering if this is even necessary on the G3 based on what I'm reading here. I switched the APN back to default.
My plan includes 5GB of tethering with unlimited on board so the problem is that how can I tell which data I'm using? My account page only shows unlimited it doesn't show how much of that is used for tethering even when I used the native tether app. I suppose I just have to try and go over and see what happens?
I've got this working on Cloudy 2.5 but the data is being counted as Hotspot data. Other than the settings earlier in the thread is there anything else I need to change so that it doesn't get counted as Hot Spot data?
TIA!

VPN issues?

I'm not so sure its just my VPN provider anymore. I've tried a few different apps and I get the same issues.
I'm currently with Private Internet Access (PIA) and I've tried both their app and OpenVPN and sometimes it will connect on LTE but I get no active data transfer.
I have reason to believe its because g3 doesn't do ipv4 anymore? But that doesn't make much sense as OpenVPN works over ipv6 supposedly. Is this an issue with my provider or the g3? I can't seem to figure it out. Anybody else having VPN issues? Please post results.
I am aware I can use native VPN feature but I don't like that I can't use a knock code for credentials.
This thread might be of help for you in regards to getting VPN to work: T-Mobile D851 IPV4 Support
The two main posters in there are trying to get IPV4 to work on the G3, as one of them, The Pagel, was trying to get it to work for their own VPN apps.
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I'm not so sure its just my VPN provider anymore. I've tried a few different apps and I get the same issues.
I'm currently with Private Internet Access (PIA) and I've tried both their app and OpenVPN and sometimes it will connect on LTE but I get no active data transfer.
I have reason to believe its because g3 doesn't do ipv4 anymore? But that doesn't make much sense as OpenVPN works over ipv6 supposedly. Is this an issue with my provider or the g3? I can't seem to figure it out. Anybody else having VPN issues? Please post results.
I am aware I can use native VPN feature but I don't like that I can't use a knock code for credentials.
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The issue is probably that you are getting a private IPv4 address from the provider, as well as a public IPv6 address (LTE areas only).
Most companies are still running VPNs on IPv4, and some VPNs won't play well with certain NAT implementations, which is used when you have a private IP address.
When you disable 4G and eHRPD, you will start getting a public IPv4 address again.
As you may have heard, we are running out of IPv4 addresses, and provider using NAT and Private IP addresses is a work around until more people deploy IPv6. Once your company deploys a VPN on IPv6, things should improve. However, this could take a while as this is a major transition and in some cases will require software/firmware updates on network equipment. Also, some very old operating systems don't always support IPv6, so all of that has to be retired as well.
Anyone know of a VPN service that runs IPv6 that would work on android? PIA doesn't work at all
I ran that patch from the other post, and no luck. Not a single VPN connection works on this phone. I am debating if I should take it back, as a VPN is a necessity to me
Did you mess around with your vpn settings at all maybe you should uninstall then re install? Pia is working fine for me with ipv4 in fact I am posting right now from my g3 on the vpn.
ThePagel said:
Did you mess around with your vpn settings at all maybe you should uninstall then re install? Pia is working fine for me with ipv4 in fact I am posting right now from my g3 on the vpn.
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Using the VPN script?
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Using the VPN script?
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No script just make sure your on ipv4 not ipv4/ipv6 I think the script your referring to is for tether unless there is a script I haven't seen yet.
ThePagel said:
No script just make sure your on ipv4 not ipv4/ipv6 I think the script your referring to is for tether unless there is a script I haven't seen yet.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2838484
This is the only thing I've found relating to vpns and trying to get ipv4 on the g3.
How did you get it working?
Naturesretard said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2838484
This is the only thing I've found relating to vpns and trying to get ipv4 on the g3.
How did you get it working?
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Its not a script and I made that :silly:
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Its not a script and I made that :silly:
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Anything one flashes I consider a script. Wrong terminology I suppose. Also didn't notice you were posting in my thread....hai!
I take it you're mod works fine now?
I've thought of flashing it as I now live in an area where 3g and hspa could come it handy as I get either LTE, edge, or nothing now, mainly nothing.
I'm doing a bit of traveling atm so I can't peruse the pages, but how's it coming along? I could care less about native tether, there's apps to do it. As long as i t doesnt mess up my xposed tweaks I'm 3 seconds from flashing it....
Naturesretard said:
Anything one flashes I consider a script. Wrong terminology I suppose. Also didn't notice you were posting in my thread....hai!
I take it you're mod works fine now?
I've thought of flashing it as I now live in an area where 3g and hspa could come it handy as I get either LTE, edge, or nothing now, mainly nothing.
I'm doing a bit of traveling atm so I can't peruse the pages, but how's it coming along? I could care less about native tether, there's apps to do it. As long as i t doesnt mess up my xposed tweaks I'm 3 seconds from flashing it....
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Yeah native tether still doesn't work but everything else does. A few people have had problems but not many. I would suggest you make a backup before you do it because xposed is kind of a jealous lover and hates when you eye other modifications. But on the other hand it really depends on what xposed modules your using.
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Yeah native tether still doesn't work but everything else does. A few people have had problems but not many. I would suggest you make a backup before you do it because xposed is kind of a jealous lover and hates when you eye other modifications. But on the other hand it really depends on what xposed modules your using.
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Just g3 tweaks. I wasn't sure if I could use normal xposed tweaks. I'll have to make a new backup with my xposed and I'll give it a shot. PIA working on WiFi still with the mod?
Naturesretard said:
Just g3 tweaks. I wasn't sure if I could use normal xposed tweaks. I'll have to make a new backup with my xposed and I'll give it a shot. PIA working on WiFi still with the mod?
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Probably not but I will check
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Wait still? Does it work now? Haven't tried to find out.
I think it's something with LG's android build. When i had my Moto X I could use PIA on LTE. I did not check to see if it kicked itself to IPv4 but that seems to be the problem. It works if you have the EPC T-Mobile APN set to IPv4 and connect through HSPA+.
derpyderps said:
I think it's something with LG's android build. When i had my Moto X I could use PIA on LTE. I did not check to see if it kicked itself to IPv4 but that seems to be the problem. It works if you have the EPC T-Mobile APN set to IPv4 and connect through HSPA+.
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ipv4 is definitely locked down for fast on this tmobile version but it is luckily a easy work around if you don't mind loosing built in tether. I have confidence that built in tether will be fixed for that mod soon but I am currently using my phone tinkering time (limited atm) on a korean port that wont require any modifications. Before I stop caring about tmobile builds ill fix it. Something I am sure a lot of people might find interesting is after my first boot on the korean port it is looking like I might be able to bring voice over lte to our phone before it officially happens.
Unsure if related to the mod, but attempting to access tmo account via tmo app yields a server error
Since applying the mod
Naturesretard said:
Unsure if related to the mod, but attempting to access tmo account via tmo app yields a server error
Since applying the mod
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ooooo that's something I didn't check gimme a couple minutes.
Update: works for me

Bypass Tethering Cap Moto G7 Power XT1955-5 Metro PCS Variant

As we all know, Android Pie has been giving quite a few folks problems on the tethering front. And so far, the G7 Power, at least for me, is in that group.
The method I used was USB-less, because this phone charges anytime you plug it into any device, and going through the cable to my computer just wasn't a great option as I'm trying to save this battery that doesn't easily come out.
I used:
VPN Hotspot
VPN Tether
Express VPN
PhCyber Pro
Opened Express VPN first. Then PhCyber Pro. This is because Express VPN does not play nice with VPN Tether but PhyCyber does, and you want to make sure that the tab on Express VPN that says all apps connect through VPN is clicked. Then I turned on Hotspot, making sure to enable the Wifi and the Wlan0. Then I turned on VPN Tether. From that I was able to use the connection.
So far, so good. Hit 20GB with no throttling. Battery goes out in about six hours with continuous usage give or take. Anybody want to test it and see what happens? Or if you have a better method, lay it out - I'm ALL EARS.:good::good:
Articul8Madness said:
As we all know, Android Pie has been giving quite a few folks problems on the tethering front. And so far, the G7 Power, at least for me, is in that group.
The method I used was USB-less, because this phone charges anytime you plug it into any device, and going through the cable to my computer just wasn't a great option as I'm trying to save this battery that doesn't easily come out.
I used:
VPN Hotspot
VPN Tether
Express VPN
PhCyber Pro
Opened Express VPN first. Then PhCyber Pro. This is because Express VPN does not play nice with VPN Tether but PhyCyber does, and you want to make sure that the tab on Express VPN that says all apps connect through VPN is clicked. Then I turned on Hotspot, making sure to enable the Wifi and the Wlan0. Then I turned on VPN Tether. From that I was able to use the connection.
So far, so good. Hit 20GB with no throttling. Battery goes out in about six hours with continuous usage give or take. Anybody want to test it and see what happens? Or if you have a better method, lay it out - I'm ALL EARS.:good::good:
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Since I have a backup laptop , I use pda tether via USB , then share the pda connection via windows 10 hotspot share.
Easy set up first use any wifi connection to activate the local area connection 15. Then turn off the wifi leaving on the windows hotspot, then connect pda USB and go to adapter settings in windows and share the pda connection to the local area connection 15. Bam hotspot for the entire house no throttle no detection from carrier since it's pda USB..
Doing this for months on MetroPCS. I average 79 gigs per month.
Battery stays at 100 since it's connected via USB all day. I bought two Moto g7 powers for this reason. The data speeds are perfect in my area. Use H instead of LTE for an average of 6-7 mb download speeds during peak hours 9am to 10pm. Then use LTE during off peak times for speeds of around 30 mb download speeds. The service is so good and reliable I don't pay timewarner aka spectrum no more $$$.
I just keep my Moto g7 power on H all day everyday for the best non throttled data. Lastly use T-Mobile apn and add dun. Some reason using MetroPCS apn I get choppier service when streaming. Using T-Mobile apn I steam all day at 720 p with no buffing. I tested the hotspot devices and they get 720 p steaming with no buffering either. Hope this helps anyone like it helped me.
PS. One last note. Since last Friday my motog7power displays T-Mobile on the drop down menu now. I've change to Tmobile apn on several devices in recent years and this phone is the first one to display T-Mobile although my sim card is MetroPCS. I do have the retail stock rom on June 1st security patch rooted.
Before I would use Xposed and use custom text app to edit the carrier name. I'm glad I don't have to use Xposed anymore for that reason.
Edit now drop down reads metro by T-Mobile. They must be updating towers.
jhjhjhjhjhjh said:
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Not working for me. Can you leave some detailed instructions on how you got pda net to work? I keep getting errors saying pda wasn't made for my device.
Also, cannot change ANY MetroPCS APN settings. Everything is greyed out. Any hopes on that one? Tried making a tmobile one, saved it, it auto deleted.
Articul8Madness said:
Not working for me. Can you leave some detailed instructions on how you got pda net to work? I keep getting errors saying pda wasn't made for my device.
Also, cannot change ANY MetroPCS APN settings. Everything is greyed out. Any hopes on that one? Tried making a tmobile one, saved it, it auto deleted.
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Make sure your on a non branded stock rom. Download the retus or retail firmware from the website linked in the return to stock thread. Fastboot flash the firmware.
You should be able to change apn settings on the retail stock roms.
Let me know if need further assistance.
As far as pda i use foxfi. Paid key version and select activate USB mode. See pic below.
jhjhjhjhjhjh said:
Make sure your on a non branded stock rom. Download the retus or retail firmware from the website linked in the return to stock thread. Fastboot flash the firmware.
You should be able to change apn settings on the retail stock roms.
Let me know if need further assistance.
As far as pda i use foxfi. Paid key version and select activate USB mode. See pic below.
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I'm on the RETUS rom (March 1st). No MetroPCS stock rom. Still not highlighted.
Articul8Madness said:
I'm on the RETUS rom (March 1st). No MetroPCS stock rom. Still not highlighted.
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I'm on Retail.
Weird. Try the updated firmware . June patch. I'm rocking it no problems rooted.
Make sure your sim card isn't in during the flashing of the stock rom. Also wipe your device clean .(factory reset) That's what I did.
PS. My wife is so amazed of the battery, performance and the modifications I did to this phone. She wants a Moto g7 power now and giving up her iPhone 7s plus lol. Said the youtube Vance mod is her favorite. She loves youtube without interruptions...
I must say this phone is a Beast. Highly underrated.
jhjhjhjhjhjh said:
I'm on Retail.
Weird. Try the updated firmware . June patch. I'm rocking it no problems rooted.
Make sure your sim card isn't in during the flashing of the stock rom. Also wipe your device clean .(factory reset) That's what I did.
PS. My wife is so amazed of the battery, performance and the modifications I did to this phone. She wants a Moto g7 power now and giving up her iPhone 7s plus lol. Said the youtube Vance mod is her favorite. She loves youtube without interruptions...
I must say this phone is a Beast. Highly underrated.
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I've done all you've suggested. I've also deleted /played with the APN.xml file. No dice. It may be because my phone is locked to them - reading more about this apparently Google is locking the APN settings down. There has to be a way to edit them.
Even editing build prop did nothing to ungrey it out.
Articul8Madness said:
I've done all you've suggested. I've also deleted /played with the APN.xml file. No dice. It may be because my phone is locked to them - reading more about this apparently Google is locking the APN settings down. There has to be a way to edit them.
Even editing build prop did nothing to ungrey it out.
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Wow. I'm still locked to metro for another 87 days. As you have seen I can edit my apn. I did this right after I inserted my sim back in. I have no idea now why you can't edit your apn. Both my Moto g7 powers I've edited both apns.
jhjhjhjhjhjh said:
Wow. I'm still locked to metro for another 87 days. As you have seen I can edit my apn. I did this right after I inserted my sim back in. I have no idea now why you can't edit your apn. Both my Moto g7 powers I've edited both apns.
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I've checked both the G7s after flashing and they both are greyed out. I'm going to flash a RETEU rom and see if that corrects the problem.
I've been tinkering with this all day and now I've been "locked" out of even looking at the APN.
jhjhjhjhjhjh said:
Wow. I'm still locked to metro for another 87 days. As you have seen I can edit my apn. I did this right after I inserted my sim back in. I have no idea now why you can't edit your apn. Both my Moto g7 powers I've edited both apns.
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Ok, I went back and reread carefully the entire conversation. I thought I was supposed to change the MetroPCS settings, that's the part that was greyed out for me. I see you made a separate entry for TMO. I went ahead and did that, but for good measure, can you take a complete screenshot of your settings top to bottom, your previous pic was only the bottom.
I've clicked the button. It still says Metro by TMO, but I'm PDA/FoxFI tethering via USB right now and the speeds are pretty gnarly - I think they could be faster.
It's a fresh RETUS flash BTW.
Articul8Madness said:
Ok, I went back and reread carefully the entire conversation. I thought I was supposed to change the MetroPCS settings, that's the part that was greyed out for me. I see you made a separate entry for TMO. I went ahead and did that, but for good measure, can you take a complete screenshot of your settings top to bottom, your previous pic was only the bottom.
I've clicked the button. It still says Metro by TMO, but I'm PDA/FoxFI tethering via USB right now and the speeds are pretty gnarly - I think they could be faster.
It's a fresh RETUS flash BTW.
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Ok cool.
Here's two pics of the apn settings I use
Data speeds of what I get in my area
H = HighSpeedDataAccess, average around 6mb download and 1.7mb upload during off-peak times.
LTE= Long Term Evolution, average around 44mb download and 38mb upload during off peak times..
jhjhjhjhjhjh said:
Ok cool.
Here's two pics of the apn settings I use
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Ok. Our data entries match.
I tried PDA NET, the newer foxfi goes straight to the PDA app. I did the USB tether just because my battery was down. Any way to check if its going against my tethering limit? I see where they say how much data I've used, but the hotspot on the phone ain't on.
Also, have you tried the Magisk Tethering App? Its a module that is supposed to do what FoxFi/PDAnet does.
jhjhjhjhjhjh said:
Data speeds of what I get in my area
H = HighSpeedDataAccess, average around 6mb download and 1.7mb upload during off-peak times.
LTE= Long Term Evolution, average around 44mb download and 38mb upload during off peak times..
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My speed test on that site was at noon....
Download 128.68 Mbps
Jitter 11Ms
Ping 103.0 Ms
32.10 Mpbs
Articul8Madness said:
Ok. Our data entries match.
I tried PDA NET, the newer foxfi goes straight to the PDA app. I did the USB tether just because my battery was down. Any way to check if its going against my tethering limit? I see where they say how much data I've used, but the hotspot on the phone ain't on.
Also, have you tried the Magisk Tethering App? Its a module that is supposed to do what FoxFi/PDAnet does.
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The way to check tethering limit is hit #611 on dialer the ivr system will say how much hotspot you ve used in realtime.
Yes I've tried the magisk tether to no avail. I can't get it to function better than the method I use.
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My speed test on that site was at noon....
Download 128.68 Mbps
Jitter 11Ms
Ping 103.0 Ms
32.10 Mpbs
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Great speeds
jhjhjhjhjhjh said:
The way to check tethering limit is hit #611 on dialer the ivr system will say how much hotspot you ve used in realtime.
Yes I've tried the magisk tether to no avail. I can't get it to function better than the method I use.
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Great speeds
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Drinks on me....called 611.."If you have hotspot data, you haven't used ANY OF IT!!!!"
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ADB tethering apps like PdaNet and EasyTether impact performance and reliability for me, so I try to avoid them when possible. Native tether on T-Mobile just requires that your traffic goes through the mobile APN and packets leaving your phone have the standard TTL of 64.
The easiest way is to just use VPN Tether or Tether Hotspot with free local VPN servers like AdClear or Adguard. You can ofc disable the ad blocking features if you want. The downside is that you have to manually enable the routing every time, it's not plug and play. This does bypass the APN and TTL requirements though.
To change the APN you can
1 - create a copy of your APN and add dun to the APN Type
2 - set tether_dun_required 0
3 - edit apns-conf.xml
Modifying the TTL is a bit tougher, standard kernels don't let you use iptables to mangle packets like that. You have to do it on the other device, be it a PC or router or whatever. I recommend an OpenWRT compatible or Asus router if you want to do this. I'm using a Linux dev board running between my phone and router for this atm.
You don't need to flash a different firmware for this to work. Moto is also running standard Android(as opposed to LG or Samsung), so if you want usb tethering as default, all you have to do is set it in the developer settings. You need something like Auto USB Tether for that on non-standard devices.
Edit: Magisk Tether Enabler is just for setting net.tethering.noprovisioning to disable the carrier provisioning check(not needed if your plan supports hotspot) and Xposed XTether is to bypass custom manufacturer tether provisioning apps(not applicable on this device).
Edit 2: If your concerned about charging while using USB tethering, you can use Battery Charge Limit or Advanced Charging Controller to control it.
Another option is to use Termux to start an SSH server with DropBear (easy passwd login) and connect using ssh's built in SOCKS forwarding.
On your pc run:
ssh -D localhost:1234 [email protected] -p 8022
Replace user with either root or the termux username (like u0_a230) and phoneip with your phone's local ip. It'll work if you're connected to a router/hotspot without an internet connection, for instance use your pc to make the hotspot or run a wifi direct hotspot like in pdanet, just as long as your two devices can communicate with each other.
After you've established your ssh connection just set up a socks proxy on the pc through localhost port 1234 and you're good to go! I use macos and the proxy settings are right there in network settings but I'm pretty sure Windows and Linux both allow you to do it natively as well.
Don't need a VPN and doesn't count as hotspot usage.
To put the ssh instance in the background add -f -N to the command.
I have been abusing T-Mobile's tethering restrictions from day one, typically through MVNO's such as MetroPCS or SimpleMobile. Used to be able to change a browsers user-agent string on a pc to that of a mobile browser, then it was running an ssh server on the phone to run SSH dynamic port forwarding as a SOCKS proxy , and finally there's the TTL trick, which works now and has lasted the longest yet. You change the ttl (on the device you want to tether to) from 64 to 65. Most Unix style systems, this a one-liner on the ol shell prompt for example: echo 65 >/proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_default_ttl I have no idea how to do this on Windows, but I understand it's possible. Lately ipv6 has been a problem, the solution is to disable ipv6 in your APNs(ALL OF THEM) to fix the APN with DUN I use this after disabling selinux temporarily until change is made.....
Post #8
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-xl/help/android-8-1-how-to-edit-cellular-apn-t3697425
There is also a way to DROP ipv6 packets via ip6tables, which I will get down on this device after I get a handle on this A/B slot sh** we get to deal with(I just bricked the thing and got it back with blank-flash) APN/TTL thing is working for me, also it's not device specific. I have a script I put together on the E5 Play(working on the g7 power as well) that repeats xfinitywifi(or any other wifi) as a softap/hotspot to other devices without a MAC address registered on xfinity, no cellular connection at all. Could come in handy as this specific tethering trick evolves, I have an arsenal of other resources as well. Please don't hesitate to ask if you think I could help in any way...
ipv6 DROP info, what became of droidwall if i'm not mistaken. AFWALL has a feature that reduces to a small script left in Magisk's service.d directory.
https://github.com/ukanth/afwall/wiki/CustomScripts
example:
# Deny IPv6 only connections
$IP6TABLES -P INPUT DROP
$IP6TABLES -P FORWARD DROP
$IP6TABLES -P OUTPUT DROP
mrbox23 said:
I have been abusing T-Mobile's tethering restrictions from day one, typically through MVNO's such as MetroPCS or SimpleMobile. Used to be able to change a browsers user-agent string on a pc to that of a mobile browser, then it was running an ssh server on the phone to run SSH dynamic port forwarding as a SOCKS proxy , and finally there's the TTL trick, which works now and has lasted the longest yet. You change the ttl (on the device you want to tether to) from 64 to 65. Most Unix style systems, this a one-liner on the ol shell prompt for example: echo 65 >/proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_default_ttl I have no idea how to do this on Windows, but I understand it's possible. Lately ipv6 has been a problem, the solution is to disable ipv6 in your APNs(ALL OF THEM) to fix the APN with DUN I use this after disabling selinux temporarily until change is made.....
Post #8
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-xl/help/android-8-1-how-to-edit-cellular-apn-t3697425
There is also a way to DROP ipv6 packets via ip6tables, which I will get down on this device after I get a handle on this A/B slot sh** we get to deal with(I just bricked the thing and got it back with blank-flash) APN/TTL thing is working for me, also it's not device specific. I have a script I put together on the E5 Play(working on the g7 power as well) that repeats xfinitywifi(or any other wifi) as a softap/hotspot to other devices without a MAC address registered on xfinity, no cellular connection at all. Could come in handy as this specific tethering trick evolves, I have an arsenal of other resources as well. Please don't hesitate to ask if you think I could help in any way...
ipv6 DROP info, what became of droidwall if i'm not mistaken. AFWALL has a feature that reduces to a small script left in Magisk's service.d directory.
https://github.com/ukanth/afwall/wiki/CustomScripts
example:
# Deny IPv6 only connections
$IP6TABLES -P INPUT DROP
$IP6TABLES -P FORWARD DROP
$IP6TABLES -P OUTPUT DROP
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What's the script you use to use your Moto to repeat xfinitywifi? There's about a thousand of those hotspots near my house and I've been looking for a way to use them. I was registering for the free one hour trial every hour for a while but that got exhausting real quick.

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