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I am going to use a Note II as a desktop computer!

I think we all can agree just how powerful the Note II is :good:
Some of us, like myself, would even go as far to say it can be your one and only computer!
In the video he has trouble with having a bluetooth mouse and keyboard attached where he clicks on something with the mouse and the virtual keyboard pops up (even though a bluetooth keyboard is already connected and it shouldn't do this) then has to right click to get rid of it.
Instead of dealing with the bluetooth mouse / keyboard double click annoyance I am simply going to get the following:
http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-galaxy-note-ii-smart-dock-turns-phablet-into-desktop-31255000/
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With this dock I can take a Note 2 with me all day as a computing device when I am out of the house. Then when I get home, I can simply dock my Note II and work on it with a large monitor with usb mouse and usb keyboard plus an external hard drive! Finally I will be PC free and only need one device for all my computing needs :victory:
The only issue I could see the phone will be sitting in portrait mode... but I would simply lock the orientation into landscape mode while having it docked so that I get a fullscreen view on my monitor via hdmi.
Anyone else thinking of doing this same thing?

It's already my laptop for the most part =p
Sent from my Galaxy Note 2

but will it run crysis?

ap3604 said:
I think we all can agree just how powerful the Note II is :good:
The only issue I could see the phone will be sitting in portrait mode... but I would simply lock the orientation into landscape mode while having it docked so that I get a fullscreen view on my monitor via hdmi.
Anyone else thinking of doing this same thing?
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I'm waiting to get that dock, still no stock. I wonder if my 50% off code will work once there is stock?
I would use a BT mouse and keyboard, but it you have the USB port on the dock, you could use wired.
On my HP Touchpad OTG, I can use my Logitech wireless mouse/keyboard combo (uses a USB wireless adapter) which is more responsive than my BT setup. OTG on the HP is a bit sloppy with the external power requirement and it doesn't charge while watching media on the USB HDD. The Logitech wireless mouse/keyboard combo works great for me and I plan to use the same on the Note2.
The key for me in the use of the dock are:
1) Full charging capability while in use. - USB Charging
2) Connections for external USB drives for media, backup etc. - USB OTG
3) Ability to use full wireless keyboard and mouse. - USB OTG
4) Sound output to amp. - USB Audio
5) HDMI output to large display / TV - USB HDMI
As you can see the dock offers the 4 USB features all in one. The only negative, is as you state, no landscape on the dock. It seems silly to turn the thing on its side attached in the dock. The use of lock landscape would force the use of an external monitor, which I may not have all the time.

What does Alt-Tab do on a keyboard for android?
Yea I would wait for the smart dock as well. Planning on running ubuntu on it.
Though I support you in your decision and do let us know how things go!
ZedZardoz said:
I'm waiting to get that dock, still no stock. I wonder if my 50% off code will work once there is stock?
I would use a BT mouse and keyboard, but it you have the USB port on the dock, you could use wired.
On my HP Touchpad OTG, I can use my Logitech wireless mouse/keyboard combo (uses a USB wireless adapter) which is more responsive than my BT setup. OTG on the HP is a bit sloppy with the external power requirement and it doesn't charge while watching media on the USB HDD. The Logitech wireless mouse/keyboard combo works great for me and I plan to use the same on the Note2.
The key for me in the use of the dock are:
1) Full charging capability while in use. - USB Charging
2) Connections for external USB drives for media, backup etc. - USB OTG
3) Ability to use full wireless keyboard and mouse. - USB OTG
4) Sound output to amp. - USB Audio
5) HDMI output to large display / TV - USB HDMI
As you can see the dock offers the 4 USB features all in one. The only negative, is as you state, no landscape on the dock. It seems silly to turn the thing on its side attached in the dock. The use of lock landscape would force the use of an external monitor, which I may not have all the time.
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Really interested to see how well this setup works with the dock. Hopefully it works in landscape mode, and maybe even at a higher resolution. 95% of what I do on my desktop could be done on a phone with a setup like this, so this is realyl appealing.

Mj23foreva said:
but will it run crysis?
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Crysis is for the young kids.
I go old school with emulators, which the Note will run just fine to a big monitor via hdmi

I hooked up a key board and noticed that when using
alt tab, it doesn't switch between apps
Using connect bot for ssh, ctr a a, doesn't work. As a matter of fact ctr can only be entered through tapping screen.
It's going to be difficult to use this as a primary desktop if ubuntu isn't installed. Does the keyboard respond correctly in ubuntu? , ie terminal ctrl, alt tab, super? Any luck?
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Enjoy..... I'll stick to my laptops

I do use my computer less ever since I got the note 2. But I don't know if it can replace my desktop yet.
Sent from Note II

Ill be getting the dock as soon as I can find one. I'll be going out up to my big screen. It will be a great additional "PC" if that works out who knows. ..
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Do any previous Motorola Atrix 4g (or other) users plan on using the LapDock with this? That could be pretty cool, especially if you could implement the Samsung AllShare Cast to it

stvmac11 said:
Do any previous Motorola Atrix 4g (or other) users plan on using the LapDock with this? That could be pretty cool, especially if you could implement the Samsung AllShare Cast to it
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I don't see how that would work. It would end up a mess of adapter cables.

I've been doing this on an original ATT Note since launch day. Except I don't have a monitor or television. Just the Note.

I wouldn't mind if they started doing this when the phone finally caught up with mainstream top high end pc
Sparx639

Controlling the Note with keyboard/mouse
ap3604 said:
I think we all can agree just how powerful the Note II is :good:
Some of us, like myself, would even go as far to say it can be your one and only computer!
Anyone else thinking of doing this same thing?
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I got my docking station today! :good: It's pretty cool navigating around with a mouse and typing on a real keyboard!
So, does anyone know the details of what we've got here? I mean, I've determined a few things:
Mouse
right-mouse click = back button.
click = tap
click and drag = swype. So you can get your status bar by click on the top and dragging down.
Scroll will switch between desktop pages, or scroll up/down on a web page, etc.
Keyboard
Arrow keys allow navigating through your desktop icons and switching between desktop pages.
Enter opens the selected application.
Enter from with a text editor inserts a newline.
CTRL-Enter will send a test message
Page Up/Down will scroll in some applications
Ctrl-Alt-Delete reboots the phone! (oops!)
Escape = back button
Typing on the desktop initiates a search
Alt-Tab shows recent apps
Anything else?? I wish there were a way to hit the "settings" button using keyboard/mouse.. Hmm..

hapybrian said:
I got my docking station today! :good: It's pretty cool navigating around with a mouse and typing on a real keyboard!
So, does anyone know the details of what we've got here? I mean, I've determined a few things:
Mouse
right-mouse click = back button.
click = tap
click and drag = swype. So you can get your status bar by click on the top and dragging down.
Scroll will switch between desktop pages, or scroll up/down on a web page, etc.
Keyboard
Arrow keys allow navigating through your desktop icons and switching between desktop pages.
Enter opens the selected application.
Enter from with a text editor inserts a newline.
CTRL-Enter will send a test message
Page Up/Down will scroll in some applications
Ctrl-Alt-Delete reboots the phone! (oops!)
Escape = back button
Typing on the desktop initiates a search
Alt-Tab shows recent apps
Anything else?? I wish there were a way to hit the "settings" button using keyboard/mouse.. Hmm..
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No time to test right now, but you may get away with http://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=159538

I'm amazed at how this guy and others think is some ground breaking idea.
Also, I didn't know Mr.Macky was making videos about the Note 2...........not to mention plugging his own TV show by showing it in the video player........mmmmmmkay

Mj23foreva said:
but will it run crysis?
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lol

OP have you considered buying an Android-centric keyboard?
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Requesting feedback on new app - NotiFire

Update 5/8/14 - Just wanted to let everyone know that I've released this app under a new name to the Amazon Appstore, now called "Signal for Fire TV". I really appreciate all the feedback and most the suggestions made it into the initial version, including Tasker support. I've also removed the temporary demo version.
Some links:
Download the app here: http://www.amazon.com/gp/mas/dl/android?p=com.jigawattlabs.signal
Details on app here: http://www.jigawattlabs.com/signal-for-fire-tv
Tasker instructions here: http://www.jigawattlabs.com/tasker-instructions-for-signal
Thanks for all the help!
-Gregg
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Update 4/28/14 - just uploaded new version to (removed)
Added help screens and fixed a few bugs. I think this is feature complete for the first release, except for how to charge for it. Demo and Paid version, or in app purchase?
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Update 4/27/14 - just released an updated version of the app. Please install on both the FireTV and your Android phone/tablet. Changes include:
- Send notifications to all FireTV devices (although the Send button on the FireTVs tab only sends to the currently selected FireTV)
- Privacy settings on FireTV side to turn on/off the sender name and the actual message
- Added ability to get notified when any app posts a notification.
To enable app notifications, the following are REQUIRED
- You must be running Android 4.3 or above. The app takes advantage of a new app notification feature introduced in 4.3
- You MUST first hit the "Enable App Notifications" button in the APPS tab, and make sure the NotiFireTV app has a checkbox next to it
- Select the apps you want to get notifications on. For example - Gmail and mail are likely candidates
Please post your comments and suggestions. And thanks for all the great feedback.
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Hi all. I've developed a new app specifically for the FireTV called NotiFire, and I'm looking for feedback before I release it. The basic idea is that if you get a phone call or text message on your phone or tablet, a notification will pop up on the FireTV showing you the notification and who it's from.
It doesn't matter if your Android device isn't near by or silent - it just needs to be connected to the same wifi network (and same channel if you have multiple channels). I plan to add additional notifications over time.
There is one apk, and it needs to be installed on both the FireTV and your Android device. You can download the latest version here: http://jigawattlabs.com/notifire/NotiFire.apk
On the FireTV, do the following:
- adb connect (ip address of your firetv)
- adb install NotiFire.apk
- From FireTV home screen, go to Settings->Applications->NotiFire->Launch Application
- You can leave all the check boxes checked if you want, but you should set the FireTV name - maybe something like "Living Room"
- Exit back to the home screen
On your Android device
- Launch the NotiFire.apk
- If all goes well, within a few seconds you should see a line in the list for your FireTV. If you have multiple FireTV devices, they should show up
- Select your FireTV and it's name should turn orange to show it's now the default FireTV
- Go to the Notifications tab and make sure the notifications you want to send to the FireTV are checked
- Exit the app
At this point, any time you get a call or SMS message, you should get a notification on the FireTV - even in the middle of watching a movie or whatever. The NotiFire app doesn't need to be visible on either the FireTV or your Andorid device since they run background services that will also start up when you reboot either device. So you really don't need to launch the app any more on either device, except if the FireTV IP address changes. If it does, just launch the NotiFire app again and re-select your FireTV.
You can also just send a simple message from your phone to the FireTV by entering some text at the bottom of the Fire TVs tab and hitting the send button.
Permissions
Note that there are a lot of permissions that the app requests. Here is an explanation:
Checking WiFi status and sending messages across the network:
INTERNET
ACCESS_WIFI_STATE
ACCESS_NETWORK_STATE
CHANGE_WIFI_STATE
Keeps the devices going into such a deep sleep they won't respond when needed
WAKE_LOCK
For device discovery, send broadcast to all devices on network to see which are FireTVs:
CHANGE_WIFI_MULTICAST_STATE
See if my background process is running:
GET_TASKS
Reverse lookup to get name of caller/SMS sender
READ_CONTACTS
For caching files
READ_EXTERNAL_STORAGE
WRITE_EXTERNAL_STORAGE
Detect if a phone call or SMS message is received
READ_PHONE_STATE
RECEIVE_SMS
Automatically start background service on startup
RECEIVE_BOOT_COMPLETED
Known issues:
- (Fixed by locking orientation) After an orientation change on the phone/tablet, app doesn't seem to detect FireTV devices. For now, just close and open app again
- (Fixed) Preference changes on FireTV don't seem to take effect until you close and restart the NotiFire app again

Just tested sideloading the app to the Fire and installing it on my Note 2. Works like a charm! Thanks for a great app
Will it be able to notifications beside phone calls and SMS? Should be fairly easy to add with the current implementation already in place.

I think so. Just wanted to get the basic framework in place first and then add on from there. I'll have to see how to get copies of all notifications.
Thanks for testing!
-Gregg
Equalizer said:
Just tested sideloading the app to the Fire and installing it on my Note 2. Works like a charm! Thanks for a great app
Will it be able to notifications beside phone calls and SMS? Should be fairly easy to add with the current implementation already in place.
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I will try today, thanks

:good: Works great on my Nexus 5 and Fire TV. The only thing is that I can't actually see my FireTV being paired but it works. The app is fantastic, you should develop it further, I would pay up to 4.99 for a full-functioning version. Can it connect more than 1 device, for example my phone and my gf's phone?

Thanks for testing Solo, and for suggesting a price. It would great to get other opinions here on that too. Also, how about the name? I did find there were a couple of other apps called NotiFire, none related to the FireTV.
I designed the app so on the FireTV side, it will receive notifications from multiple devices on the same network. So if your phone and your girlfriend's phone are both connected to the same network, you would see notifications on the FireTV from either. And on the phone/tablet side, it does support showing any number of FireTV devices, but right now it will only send notifications to the one that was last selected. Do you think it should send to all FireTV devices? If you do try it with multiple phones/tablets, let me know how it works out for you.
I also think I have a way to capture notifications from any app, although that feature would only work on Android 4.3 and higher.
One other thing - the version I posted is a timed demo, so it will expire around May 19th unless I replace it. Hopefully I'll post the production version before then.
-Gregg
solo said:
:good: Works great on my Nexus 5 and Fire TV. The only thing is that I can't actually see my FireTV being paired but it works. The app is fantastic, you should develop it further, I would pay up to 4.99 for a full-functioning version. Can it connect more than 1 device, for example my phone and my gf's phone?
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greno1 said:
Thanks for testing Solo, and for suggesting a price. It would great to get other opinions here on that too. Also, how about the name? I did find there were a couple of other apps called NotiFire, none related to the FireTV.
I designed the app so on the FireTV side, it will receive notifications from multiple devices on the same network. So if your phone and your girlfriend's phone are both connected to the same network, you would see notifications on the FireTV from either. And on the phone/tablet side, it does support showing any number of FireTV devices, but right now it will only send notifications to the one that was last selected. Do you think it should send to all FireTV devices? If you do try it with multiple phones/tablets, let me know how it works out for you.
I also think I have a way to capture notifications from any app, although that feature would only work on Android 4.3 and higher.
One other thing - the version I posted is a timed demo, so it will expire around May 19th unless I replace it. Hopefully I'll post the production version before then.
-Gregg
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I think it would make sense for the app to send notifications to all FireTVs; I have 2 so I wouldn't want to have to select each time I am moving around.
The thing is, I don't even see the FireTV in the device list:
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Yet it is functioning just fine!
I will try with multiple phones next week.
Gmail and Viber is what I am looking forward to

OK, I think that makes sense. I'll have it send to all FireTV devices. There will also be an option on each FireTV to turn off some notifications.
There is an issue with an orientation change that once you rotate it, it won't show any FireTVs. Closing the app and restarting works, but I also have a fix ready to go soon. But once the phone/tablet finds a FireTV, it knows the IP address and can send messages to it - even if it can't find the FireTV again on subsequent scans.
I now have a way of capturing all notifications, so I'm working on the UI for that to turn on/off notification forwarding to the FireTV. But it should be able to show whatever text is in the notification - like an email summary.
-Gregg
solo said:
I think it would make sense for the app to send notifications to all FireTVs; I have 2 so I wouldn't want to have to select each time I am moving around.
The thing is, I don't even see the FireTV in the device list
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Works on my Sony Xperia Z1s.
The only issue I had was although I did set the name of the device on the firetv, when launching the app on the phone it just showed "firetv (no name)" - but it functions and seems to work well.
I have a suggestion. How about two privacy options for SMS notifications.
- Do Not Show contact Name for SMS notifications.
- Do Not Show actual message content.
It would just be nice to have so everyone using your firetv does not see your private info.
Keep up the great work. I like where this app is going.

That's a great suggestion - I'll add those privacy options.
Regarding setting the name, there is currently a bug where the settings on the FireTV don't seem to take effect until the app shuts down and restarts itself. So if you did a force stop on the FireTV client and started it again, you should see the new name.
-Gregg
jpage101 said:
Works on my Sony Xperia Z1s.
The only issue I had was although I did set the name of the device on the firetv, when launching the app on the phone it just showed "firetv (no name)" - but it functions and seems to work well.
I have a suggestion. How about two privacy options for SMS notifications.
- Do Not Show contact Name for SMS notifications.
- Do Not Show actual message content.
It would just be nice to have so everyone using your firetv does not see your private info.
Keep up the great work. I like where this app is going.
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This is an awesome app, can't wait for a full-fledged version :fingers-crossed:

I ran into a bit of a snag. My hope was to have one APK that you install on both the FireTV and your Android device. But to enable 3rd party app notifications, I need to build the APK on 4.3 or higher. But the Amazon SDK is built on 4.2. So it looks like I'll need to manage two apps. Ugh.

greno1 said:
That's a great suggestion - I'll add those privacy options.
Regarding setting the name, there is currently a bug where the settings on the FireTV don't seem to take effect until the app shuts down and restarts itself. So if you did a force stop on the FireTV client and started it again, you should see the new name.
-Gregg
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You can call it Girlfriend mode
Got it, thanks.

Great idea! I'd say for your roadmap it'd be great if you could incorporate IFTTT and Tasked support.
Also, I would change the name...I think the premise of the app is great and you'd do well to make the name generic so that it could be used on other devices (googletv, chromecast, tablets (think integrated custom installations in cars etc))
Just my 2 cents, great work!
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Thanks for the suggestions. IFTTT and Tasked support is a good idea. Maybe I'll add that in a subsequent release. But it shouldn't be too hard to implement.
I hear what you are saying about the name. I also develop apps for Chromecast and Roku, but this type of notification over top of other running applications/media wouldn't be possible on those platforms because they don't support multitasking (at least as far as I've been able to determine). It could run on other Android devices, but you probably are already getting the same notifications on those anyway - except for phone and text messages.
I should have another more complete version out in the next couple of days. It will support app notifications as well as calls and SMS messages. It will send to all FireTVs, not just the currently selected one. It will also have the privacy settings (or Girlfriend Mode) on the FireTV.
I also found a way to keep this as one APK and still compile with Android 4.4. For those trying something similar, I created a library project that was built on the Amazon 4.2.2 SDK, and my main project I built with Android 4.4 but linked in the library. It built fine and runs ok on both Android and FireTV devices.
I really appreciate the feedback - keep it coming! Especially on the name.
Edvard_Greig said:
Great idea! I'd say for your roadmap it'd be great if you could incorporate IFTTT and Tasked support.
Also, I would change the name...I think the premise of the app is great and you'd do well to make the name generic so that it could be used on other devices (googletv, chromecast, tablets (think integrated custom installations in cars etc))
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Sure thing, I don't develop for these platforms, but for something like Chromecast at least could you wrap the stream with effectively a dynamic transparent subtitle?
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Oh man, I will test this on my Moto x when I get home. Very promising.
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App update - 4/27
Based on the great feedback from everyone, I just posted a new version of the app. Please install on both the FireTV and your Android phone/tablet. Please see first post in thread for download link and instructions.
Changes include:
- Send notifications to all FireTV devices (although the Send button on the FireTVs tab only sends to the currently selected FireTV)
- Privacy settings on FireTV side to turn on/off the sender name and the actual message
- Added ability to get notified when any app posts a notification.
To enable app notifications, the following are REQUIRED
- You must be running Android 4.3 or above. The app takes advantage of a new app notification feature introduced in 4.3
- You MUST first hit the "Enable App Notifications" button in the APPS tab, and make sure the NotiFireTV app has a checkbox next to it
- Select the apps you want to get notifications on. For example - Gmail and mail are likely candidates
Also make sure you actually run the NotiFire app on the FireTV side after doing the adb install.
Does anyone have two or more FireTVs they can test with? I only have one myself.
Please post your comments and suggestions. And thanks for all the great feedback.

I supposed it could if I could control the stream. But I couldn't add that on top of, say, the stream from Netflix.
Edvard_Greig said:
Sure thing, I don't develop for these platforms, but for something like Chromecast at least could you wrap the stream with effectively a dynamic transparent subtitle?
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I just uploaded new version to (removed)
This is feature complete for release one, and would really appreciate some feedback before I release it.
I'm thinking of using in-app purchase to unlock the full set of features. What do you think would be reasonable functionality to offer free for people to test with before purchasing? I was thinking of just enabling either phone calls or SMS messages, and doing an in app purchase would unlock all the functionality. I'm also thinking of offering it for $3.99. Thoughts?
Also, since users will need to go to the Amazon app store to get the app installed on the FireTV, I guess it doesn't make sense to make this available on any other app stores, like Google Play. Otherwise people would wind up having to pay twice - once for the FireTV app and one for the phone/tablet.
Still trying to decide on an app name, but I'm now thinking NotiFireTV since there are other apps called Notifire. I still welcome feedback on this. I also changed the app icon.
-Gregg

Official iPhone Android Wear app - with Moto 360

How to Setup Official Android Wear on iPhone using Moto 360
https://youtu.be/Qih9mM4oPRg

Update moto360
suadsecure said:
How to Setup Official Android Wear on iPhone using Moto 360
https://youtu.be/Qih9mM4oPRg
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Guys, be sure to update your Moto360 to software version 1.3 before pairing it to iOS. The 1.1 version has critical battery drain problem.

Found this on Reddit written by RobertJP for watchfaces:
First I found one to try LCARS Android Wear Watch Face LCARS Android Wear Watch Face
Then I used the Evozi APK downloader http://apps.evozi.com/apk-downloader/ to get the phone APK
Extracted the APK (like a zip file)
Found the APK meant for the watch (android_wear_micro_apk.apk) in the extractedapk > res > raw folder
Enabled ADB on the watch (Settings > About > tap Build Number I think 7 times which enabled Developer Options)
Swipe back to previous page, Open Developer Options
Tap ADB debugging to enable
Tap Check icon to enable it
You can now type adb shell on your computer which will give you a card on your watch to allow it
Once you have a prompt you can type exit and hit enter to get back to your computers prompt
From there you just type:
adb install /location/of/android_wear_micro_apk.apk
Once it is installed it will say so on the watch and will be available in the watch face selection carousel
I have not be able to get my watch talking with my PC yet after enabling debugging over USB.
Need to find more info.

Mr_Baertig said:
and how can I install apps without a play store?
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you cannot at this time

Obviously connecting a moto 360 with adb to a pc is mission impossible due to the iQ connectors... we would need to plug a USB cable to be able to push apk into the watch.
I know users did it already with watch makers faces and the mickey mouse apk but for other watches, I would love to have them on my moto 360 connected to my iPhone....
I always loved the m360 and I have bought my watch because of the new official ios app, I didnt want to buy a watch without official link with my iPhone...
I have to admit that tried the aerlink method with custom watch faces loaded from an Andorid phone and I also saw what the watch can do (as it's very limited so far under iOS) and the only thing I can say is that: HURRY UP GOOGLE!!! to let custom watch face to be installed on the ios APP !! I also hope we will find easy tweaks to push android APK's to the watch...

Is there any development of the iOS wear app? I think it is needed. Aerlink is an alternative meanwhile.

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If you already have DeX and want to enable resizable windows for all apps either follow the guide available in the Desktop Hub app or just go into the 'Settings/Samsung Dex/About Samsung DeX' and keep tapping the DeX logo until you see the version name change to show the message (Developer) after it!
Popular Youtuber 'Mr Mobile' review:
Screenshot of DeX Desktop:
Screenshot of DeX desktop multi-window
Find more XDA discussions on this in the S8 section thanks to @oF2pks:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/how-to/discussion-dex-to-to-true-t3594012

So far it is great I am typing up this comment using the S8+ in Dex.
It is great to use any of my Android apps in a desktop environment. I use more Android apps than Windows apps daily, so having access to those Android apps in a desktop like environment makes the whole experience so much greater.
But there are a few small things bugging me.
/* Audio: My mistake, this turns out not to have any problems... */
* Vibration: I am hearing the device vibrate when in Dex because it is not disabling haptic feedback.
* Fullscreen apps: Unfornately if your app doesn't support resizing it is only displayed in a fixed window size which can not be manually changed to anything other than a phone sized UI although you can switch between portrait & landscape, although this is not very effective when you are trying to use something like Microsoft Remote Desktop, video players or games.
* Singular notificaton pop-ups: This can often lead to notifications fighting over which is visible, and effectively makes it unviewable.
So my conclusion is that there are a few bugs, but surely they will be fixed with updates when Samsung is made aware of these bugs.
But I wouldn't write it off because of these bugs, as the device has only just become available to pre-order customers, so feedback is still required for Samsung to become aware of these bugs.
But well done to Samsung for making a usable desktop experience which imo is better than Remix OS by the way.
p.s. I'm not aware of how to report these bugs to Samsung directly.
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Also worth noting is the fact that Android O supports launching any app (not just specially developed apps) on a secondary output display, I have tested this in a custom launcher I made for the Nexus 6P running Android O. This could mean that eventually we will be able to use Dex whilst the devices screen will still be usable for additional content.

SmilerOnline said:
So far it is great I am typing up this comment using the S8+ in Dex.
It is great to use any of my Android apps in a desktop environment. I use more Android apps than Windows apps daily, so having access to those Android apps in a desktop like environment makes the whole experience so much greater.
But there are a few small things bugging me.
* Audio: currently Iam experiencing a bug where the device doesn't send audio over HDMI and it continues to use the phones speaker.
* Vibration: I am hearing the device vibrate when in Dex because it is not disabling haptic feedback.
* Fullscreen apps: Unfornately if your app doesn't support resizing it is only displayed in a fixed window size which can not be manually changed to anything other than a phone sized UI although you can switch between portrait & landscape, although this is not very effective when you are trying to use something like Microsoft Remote Desktop, video players or games.
* Singular notificaton pop-ups: This can often lead to notifications fighting over which is visible, and effectively makes it unviewable.
So my conclusion is that there are a few bugs, but surely they will be fixed with updates when Samsung is made aware of these bugs.
But I wouldn't write it off because of these bugs, as the device has only just become available to pre-order customers, so feedback is still required for Samsung to become aware of these bugs.
But well done to Samsung for making a usable desktop experience which imo is better than Remix OS by the way.
p.s. I'm not aware of how to report these bugs to Samsung directly.
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Fo the audio part there is a setting for it...

@Jeshter2000:
Where about do I find that setting?
I have tried tinkering in audio settings but I cant find it...

SmilerOnline said:
@Jeshter2000:
Where about do I find that setting?
I have tried tinkering in audio settings but I cant find it...
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It is in de bottom right corner if I recall correctly...

I can see the volume control settings but nothing to do with redirecting audio to the connected display...

SmilerOnline said:
I can see the volume control settings but nothing to do with redirecting audio to the connected display...
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When Im home ill make a print screen for you!!

Not sure if it is of any assistance, but under development settings there is a tab "media" (almost at the bottom) with the setting "Prevent USB audio routing". Maybe this has something to do with it.

Jeshter2000 said:
It is in de bottom right corner if I recall correctly...
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Jeshter2000 said:
When Im home ill make a print screen for you!!
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Thanks! ?
*EDIT*
FOUND IT!!!
My apologies...
Thanks for your help though.
It was just that Iwas not clicking the up arrow in the bottom right tray area, Iwas just thinking that audio settings would be under the speaker icon...
*Slaps head*

where can I buy it here in UK ?
I will be in Montreal in a couple of weeks, maybe it's better to buy there? or ?

ndee92 said:
where can I buy it here in UK ?
I will be in Montreal in a couple of weeks, maybe it's better to buy there? or ?
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I purchased mine from Mobile Fun UK Link below:
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/official-samsung-dex-station-galaxy-s8-s8-plus-display-dock-p63089.htm
p.s. It was delivered within 2 days (about April 12th), so I'm sure you'll get it rather quickly!

I ordered mine as soon as pre-orders opened up on Amazon and now their saying I wont get it till may 29.....

Gurule92 said:
I ordered mine as soon as pre-orders opened up on Amazon and now their saying I wont get it till may 29.....
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If the cost is not very different you may want to try cancelling your order with Amazon and see how quickly you would get it from the link in my last post (I'm not sure if they do international services though for those of you interested).

SmilerOnline said:
If the cost is not very different you may want to try cancelling your order with Amazon and see how quickly you would get it from the link in my last post (I'm not sure if they do international services though for those of you interested).
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good call, I just ordered it. should be here like 15 days before the other one lol thanks

Gurule92 said:
good call, I just ordered it. should be here like 15 days before the other one lol thanks
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No problem!
To be honest, I'm happy to help anyone get their hands on this tech as soon as possible, because I've wanted to see this become the norm for years. So the more people that buy into it, the more likely we are to see all vendors getting behind this idea and bringing us their own alternatives and maybe even Google might bring this functionality natively to Android!.
Some look at others who have tried and failed to deliver this experience and assume that this is going to go the same way... but it is brilliant and I think that now we have the right level of hardware performance to enable this to be usable (I've got 7 windows open and the device hasn't even got remotely warm!!!) it now makes sense, and with a company as big as Samsung in the mobile industry behind this tech, it can only be a positive in my honest opinion!
Goodbye to the Microsoft Windows & Intel (Wintel) monopoly and welcome to Android desktop on ARM.
This can only be good for consumers going forward as prices come down eventually!

SmilerOnline said:
Thanks! ?
*EDIT*
FOUND IT!!!
My apologies...
Thanks for your help though.
It was just that Iwas not clicking the up arrow in the bottom right tray area, Iwas just thinking that audio settings would be under the speaker icon...
*Slaps head*
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Glad I could help my friend....

I preordered the Sentio Andromium Laptop off Kickstarter last year. Gonna wait for that and see if I need to invest in DeX.

SmilerOnline said:
I purchased mine from Mobile Fun UK Link below:
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/official-samsung-dex-station-galaxy-s8-s8-plus-display-dock-p63089.htm
p.s. It was delivered within 2 days (about April 12th), so I'm sure you'll get it rather quickly!
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Thanks SmilerOnline , I am thinking about buy it here or in Montreal..thanks
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ndee92 said:
Thanks SmilerOnline , I am thinking about buy it here or in Montreal..thanks
Sent from my SM-G955F using XDA-Developers Legacy app
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No problem, glad to be of any help! ?
Enjoy your trip to Montreal ?
p.s. I think that Dex would be great for you when in an hotel room by the way! ?

I can't wait to get a Dex. I work in IT and I think having one device to do basically everything would be great.
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Upgrading Glory Star Nebula 21.5" Tablet to basic Android Rom

I just bought an Echelon spin bike and it came with a Glory Star Nebula 21.5" (glorystartouch.com/product/Kiosk-Tablet/NEB-215) The specs are on that page. It runs android 7.1.2 and uses a kiosk lock ap called STAROS
I am able to get to the main program and sideload most anything.
Tap at the bottom right corner 5 times, password is either "0000" or "1085"
I've installed Nova Launcher which helps, but most apps I have installed need a newer version. I have not been able to get play store working yet as the google services is touchy.
I'm looking for a basic android experience. The native app works on all android devices so i can just install and run it when cycling and wanting to use their app.
Any help or ideas would be good.
Also, they have disabled the power button so I have to use a small ubs keyboard when i boot into the android recovery mode.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
I had to remove all links.

If you get this to work, let me know. My wife and I just bought two of these bikes!
cashen said:
I just bought an Echelon spin bike and it came with a Glory Star Nebula 21.5" (glorystartouch.com/product/Kiosk-Tablet/NEB-215) The specs are on that page. It runs android 7.1.2 and uses a kiosk lock ap called STAROS
I am able to get to the main program and sideload most anything.
Tap at the bottom right corner 5 times, password is either "0000" or "1085"
I've installed Nova Launcher which helps, but most apps I have installed need a newer version. I have not been able to get play store working yet as the google services is touchy.
I'm looking for a basic android experience. The native app works on all android devices so i can just install and run it when cycling and wanting to use their app.
Any help or ideas would be good.
Also, they have disabled the power button so I have to use a small ubs keyboard when i boot into the android recovery mode.
I had to remove all links.
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Same here! Looking to get it to a basic android experience. Found a link (not allowed to post.. ) to the knowledge base, from the Glory Star Touch site... Support > Developer Community.
Takes you to a Zoho site with a knowledge base and some FAQ stuff.
There's some basic info in there, including how to upgrade the firmware to Android 7.1... Good place to start.
I'm going to try and mess with it later tonight after I get home.
I'm wondering if ADB debugging mode is enabled?

So I've done some poking around here
As my hastily thrown together username implies, I'm new to android development so take that into consideration but my findings so far:
- There's no GFS ID associated to the device (at least after a factory reset) which will restrict you from the google play store
- ADB is not enabled but is accessible through the hidden developer settings
- If you brick your device trying to upgrade you'll likely need to contact glory star to flash it (with their own firmware) at a charge
- Overall community for this product is very quiet, haven't seen many discussions on the internet mentioning it at all
I'm going to keep looking into this but please keep the thread posted if you make progress!
dtrain83 said:
Same here! Looking to get it to a basic android experience. Found a link (not allowed to post.. ) to the knowledge base, from the Glory Star Touch site... Support > Developer Community.
Takes you to a Zoho site with a knowledge base and some FAQ stuff.
There's some basic info in there, including how to upgrade the firmware to Android 7.1... Good place to start.
I'm going to try and mess with it later tonight after I get home.
I'm wondering if ADB debugging mode is enabled?
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Dev menu gone?
Same here, and i while I had messed around in the STAROS earlier in the month, the touching repeatedly on the settings screen appears to be gone. Does anyone know where they moved it or are we SOL?

Got Netflix installed on Echelon-5xs
I got Netflix installed on the nebula tablet with echelon 5xs bike.
Process is really simple:
1. Tap lower right corner of the screen five times and then put 1085 as the password;
2. Unlock the startos, with either 0000 or 1085 as the password and admin as the username;
3. Plugin a keyboard to the USB port, use win+b to open browser;
4. Open google and search for Netflix apk, and download the Netflix apk and install it;
5. Back to Staros app, and change the Staros mode to multiple apps mode, and change its settings by adding Netflix to the list in addition to EchelonFit;
6. Click “Launch Now” in Staros app, and now you get to a screen where you can select which app you want to run.
Another tip, press win+n to access drop down menu and system settings etc.

Ptinga,
That is awesome, thanks for figuring this out! Do you think it is also impossible to install YouTube? Also, when you turn the bike on does it have the apps pop up first thing and u just select which one you want?
Thanks in advance for your time!
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I got Netflix installed on the nebula tablet with echelon 5xs bike.
Process is really simple:
1. Tap lower right corner of the screen five times and then put 1085 as the password;
2. Unlock the startos, with either 0000 or 1085 as the password and admin as the username;
3. Plugin a keyboard to the USB port, use win+b to open browser;
4. Open google and search for Netflix apk, and download the Netflix apk and install it;
5. Back to Staros app, and change the Staros mode to multiple apps mode, and change its settings by adding Netflix to the list in addition to EchelonFit;
6. Click “Launch Now” in Staros app, and now you get to a screen where you can select which app you want to run.
Another tip, press win+n to access drop down menu and system settings etc.
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It is possible to have YouTube installed. I’ll give it a try later today. Right now I have Netflix and Amazon Prime video installed.
The tablet will boot into a screen showing icons of the app for you to choose. Holding the power button (red button besides volume control) until pop-up window asking whether you want to power off will lead you back to the screen with app icons, touch outside of the pop-up window to cancel power off will let you stay on that screen and give you a chance to select a different app.

Thanks again for checking to see if it would work out! That is so badass that you figured out how to do it!!! I should be getting my bike in the next couple of weeks and I will give it a try!
Have a good one
ptinga said:
I got Netflix installed on the nebula tablet with echelon 5xs bike.
Process is really simple:
1. Tap lower right corner of the screen five times and then put 1085 as the password;
2. Unlock the startos, with either 0000 or 1085 as the password and admin as the username;
3. Plugin a keyboard to the USB port, use win+b to open browser;
4. Open google and search for Netflix apk, and download the Netflix apk and install it;
5. Back to Staros app, and change the Staros mode to multiple apps mode, and change its settings by adding Netflix to the list in addition to EchelonFit;
6. Click “Launch Now” in Staros app, and now you get to a screen where you can select which app you want to run.
Another tip, press win+n to access drop down menu and system settings etc.
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You are welcome! And congrats for joining the community.
Just tried to install YouTube, no avail. YouTube requires google play store service and that requires the device to have a GSF ID. As one of the previous message in this thread, this tablet does not have that ID. I installed the “Device ID” app to confirm this. Further tweaking might be risky (possibly voiding the warranty).
Anyhow, if it’s just YouTube you want, you can just open browser and watch it there.
I also got inspired from a previous post in this thread to install the nova launcher, and choose that as my Home app, instead of starOS. So now I get more complete Android experience. There are third party apps which can takes care of updating apps, like Yalp.
(I’m an Android newbie, this is the first Android device I used primarily for something. I have several cheap Android phones with pay-as-you-go SIM cards left in cars as emergency backups.)
BTW, having access to the Android system settings had helped me setting up two Bluetooth speakers with this tablet. One is Amazon Echo Dot, the other is Bose mini 2. Both of them was not recognized inside the EchelonFit app, but once I got the paired via the Android OS settings, they were connected fine and recognized by EchelonFit. Echelon’s official FAQ suggests users to by a separate Bluetooth receiver if they couldn’t pair their speaker in this case. That’s just ridiculous. My impression so far with the company is they need to pay more attention to details, such as the user manual, app experience, website user portal etc. All needs improvement. The EX-5s does seem to be a quick product targeting peloton. Hope they will improve the software side of things over the years. So far I’m pleased with the hardware though.
yandawg said:
Thanks again for checking to see if it would work out! That is so badass that you figured out how to do it!!! I should be getting my bike in the next couple of weeks and I will give it a try!
Have a good one
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has anyone tried installing the peloton app on their echelon? would love to be able to toggle back and forth between the two

I am doubtful that would work due to the way that the echelon bike transmits it’s serial number to the app. This has to be done before it will show rpms or resistance. I highly doubt that the echelon would communicate the correct parameters for peloton to accept it as a bike, if that makes since.
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has anyone tried installing the peloton app on their echelon? would love to be able to toggle back and forth between the two
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Hi Everyone.. I just recieved my bike last week. The Nebula tablet was not able to connect to the bike. After logging into the admin screen I see that bluetooth is disabled and I can't seem to enable it. Support has not answered me. Today i turned on the bike and now the wifi is disabled and it to will not enable now. Do any of you smart guys know how to get them back enabled?

Ptinga, I just got my bike today and tried to get into the menu by tapping 5 times in the bottom right to no avail. I restarted it and tapped at the bottom right in the bottom right white portion of the screen. I know this isn’t rocket science... I am trying to figure out where I am screwing up. Thanks in advance for all of your help!
ptinga said:
You are welcome! And congrats for joining the community.
Just tried to install YouTube, no avail. YouTube requires google play store service and that requires the device to have a GSF ID. As one of the previous message in this thread, this tablet does not have that ID. I installed the “Device ID” app to confirm this. Further tweaking might be risky (possibly voiding the warranty).
Anyhow, if it’s just YouTube you want, you can just open browser and watch it there.
I also got inspired from a previous post in this thread to install the nova launcher, and choose that as my Home app, instead of starOS. So now I get more complete Android experience. There are third party apps which can takes care of updating apps, like Yalp.
(I’m an Android newbie, this is the first Android device I used primarily for something. I have several cheap Android phones with pay-as-you-go SIM cards left in cars as emergency backups.)
BTW, having access to the Android system settings had helped me setting up two Bluetooth speakers with this tablet. One is Amazon Echo Dot, the other is Bose mini 2. Both of them was not recognized inside the EchelonFit app, but once I got the paired via the Android OS settings, they were connected fine and recognized by EchelonFit. Echelon’s official FAQ suggests users to by a separate Bluetooth receiver if they couldn’t pair their speaker in this case. That’s just ridiculous. My impression so far with the company is they need to pay more attention to details, such as the user manual, app experience, website user portal etc. All needs improvement. The EX-5s does seem to be a quick product targeting peloton. Hope they will improve the software side of things over the years. So far I’m pleased with the hardware though.
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I got everything figured out regarding using YouTube on the bike via a browser. I have tried watching 4K videos on different browsers but it constantly buffers. I am getting over 50 mbps on the bike so the connection is not the issue. Does anyone have any idea why it constantly buffers? Is it because there is limited memory in the tablet? The videos pause every 3-4 seconds to load.

Always liked this tab....?

Does Echelon broadcast power/cadence via any standard protocol (ANT+ or Bluetooth Smart), or does it go directly to its own App via the wire? Any info about such SDK in the latter case? Would like to make Apps for it.

Picked-up an EX5S and was able to get Netflix, D+ to work. HBO, YT required Google play services to be installed.
Using Lawnchair as home app. Might switch back to Nova if I can purchase direct access outside of Google Play and if it can resolve my issue below.
When I launch the Echelon Fit app , I don't have any other option to go back to my Home screen unless I go through the unlock process again. The home, back arrow icons aren't visible. When I launch Netflix, the back arrow works and allows me to exit the app, but the home icon does nothing.
Maybe I'm missing something?

So far I have the following working:
Disney +
CBS
Netflix
Hulu
Peloton
HBO Max requires the Play
VUDU detects that the table is rooted and will not run. Looking for workarounds on this.
I'm exploring the possibility of flashing this tablet with GAPPS so I can generate a GFS ID to access the PLAY store going forward.
Ordered a cellphone holder than I plan to mount under the monitor. This will allow me to use the Echelon app in Free Ride mode (to connect to the bike/track my cadence) while I'm logged into Peloton on the main screen and try to follow along with the class.

mobilEKG said:
Does Echelon broadcast power/cadence via any standard protocol (ANT+ or Bluetooth Smart), or does it go directly to its own App via the wire? Any info about such SDK in the latter case? Would like to make Apps for it.
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It's sent from the Bike via Bluetooth. The wire that runs through the bike simply provides power to the Tablet.
Would be great if there was an app that connected to the bike that you could then overlay over the Peloton app.