[Q] performing a sort of downgrade - Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

had a quick search around on here and google, but cant quite find an answer, perhaps its the way im searching and words / terms used.
only stuff i can find related to stock or stock rooted
have a Galaxy note 2 N7105T, that was on 4.1, then upgraded it to 4.3 (before i discovered the knox crap)
currently on a custom 4.3.1 rom (and yes knox is tripped but meh)
my question now is
if i flash a custom 4.4.x rom and dont like it or have issues can i revert to a 4.3.x rom either stock or custom ?
cheers

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[Q] Going back to Note 2 Stock rom ?

Hi,
I have had my note 3 for a while now and am selling my Note 2 so i want to flash the most stable stock rom for UK as i dont want the new owner to have any problems with the phone. Any advise ? What rom should i go for ?
I have been using the 4.3 roms with Note 3 mods and also flashed the newest bootloader to make the 4.3 wifi work so now i am wondering if i am able to go back to 4.1 or 4.2 stock roms without any issues ?
Or if the above is impossible then is there any rom i can flash that don't have any kind of FC's what so ever ?
EDIT: nvm i figured it out. SOLVED
If you already updated the bootloader i think you will be not able to use a rom that is older than the 4.3, but to be sure just ask someone more expert than me

[Q] Downgrade from Android 4.4 to 4.3 (GT-i9505)

Hello,
I need to downgrade my S4 from 4.4.2 to 4.3 (GT-I9505).
I opened another thread for help but nobody did,so now im asking for a tutorial how to downgrade my phone.
Thanks.
Here are like 50,000 Users online and nobody can answer this simple question ?
Cupas said:
Here are like 50,000 Users online and nobody can answer this simple question ?
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Not everyone is looking at YOUR question. Have some respect/patience. There are threads guiding how to flash a different firmware version all over the net using Odin, in the hour you waited for a response, you could have easily used Google to find your solution.
Now you may have an issue about Knox, but since you are going from 4.4 to 4.3 (both a knox bootloader) i don't think there will be any issues.
If you have a custom recovery, just flash a 4.3 ROM
If not, use Odin to flash the 4.3 official firmware package.
With the information i provided you, you should easily be able to achieve what you need to do via Google search.
elesbb said:
Not everyone is looking at YOUR question. Have some respect/patience. There are threads guiding how to flash a different firmware version all over the net using Odin, in the hour you waited for a response, you could have easily used Google to find your solution.
Now you may have an issue about Knox, but since you are going from 4.4 to 4.3 (both a knox bootloader) i don't think there will be any issues.
If you have a custom recovery, just flash a 4.3 ROM
If not, use Odin to flash the 4.3 official firmware package.
With the information i provided you, you should easily be able to achieve what you need to do via Google search.
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Are you sure the 4.4 to 4.3 thing works? I've been using 4.2 on my S4 (I9500) all along, and recently upgraded to 4.4. I strongly dislike KitKat and would ideally like to go back to 4.2, but if there's no way of doing so, 4.3 would be fine.
Bl1zz4rd said:
Are you sure the 4.4 to 4.3 thing works? I've been using 4.2 on my S4 (I9500) all along, and recently upgraded to 4.4. I strongly dislike KitKat and would ideally like to go back to 4.2, but if there's no way of doing so, 4.3 would be fine.
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I have not tried it myself. It was just speculation since they are both knox bootloaders. The worst that will happen is Odin will say it failed OR your Knox will be tripped (which i see highly unlikely as knox detects changes from what "should" be there)
Samy you s*****
Bl1zz4rd said:
Are you sure the 4.4 to 4.3 thing works? I've been using 4.2 on my S4 (I9500) all along, and recently upgraded to 4.4. I strongly dislike KitKat and would ideally like to go back to 4.2, but if there's no way of doing so, 4.3 would be fine.
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Just for info you cant go to 4.2.2 from 4.4.2 am trying right now and i get error every single time (5 times), 4.3 could work fine but.... If you have prblems with 4.4.2 like others and me too with screen goes black, lock screen is retarded and many other f****** **** i find stable firmware Blck edition and here is link so good luck man. i9505 Black Edition only one withouth all known problems http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/3/?download=28511
AlenKing said:
Just for info you cant go to 4.2.2 from 4.4.2 am trying right now and i get error every single time (5 times), 4.3 could work fine but.... If you have prblems with 4.4.2 like others and me too with screen goes black, lock screen is retarded and many other f****** **** i find stable firmware Blck edition and here is link so good luck man. i9505 Black Edition only one withouth all known problems http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/3/?download=28511
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Thanks for the help. There were some people who said that it's impossible to go back to 4.2.2 from 4.4.2 and some that said you can't even go back to 4.3, but then others that said it is possible. I tried a number of different ROMs and they didn't boot at all. Then I tried Omega ROM v14.1 (Android 4.2.2), and that works brilliantly now.
Here's the thread for it from this forum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2232887. Only seems to be for Samsung Galaxy devices at this point.
It is an unbloated TW ROM (actually allows you to choose which Google and Samsung apps to install during a custom install process that begins when you flash it). It's faster than all my previous versions of Android, and obviously takes up less space.
Annoying that not everything works and that it took such a long time to get a successful installation, but at least I've found a ROM that has what I was looking for.
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Bl1zz4rd said:
Thanks for the help. There were some people who said that it's impossible to go back to 4.2.2 from 4.4.2 and some that said you can't even go back to 4.3, but then others that said it is possible. I tried a number of different ROMs and they didn't boot at all. Then I tried Omega ROM v14.1 (Android 4.2.2), and that works brilliantly now.
Here's the thread for it from this forum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2232887. Only seems to be for Samsung Galaxy devices at this point.
It is an unbloated TW ROM (actually allows you to choose which Google and Samsung apps to install during a custom install process that begins when you flash it). It's faster than all my previous versions of Android, and obviously takes up less space.
Annoying that not everything works and that it took such a long time to get a successful installation, but at least I've found a ROM that has what I was looking for.
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Yup but that is a custom ROM and with proper recovery you can go down to 4.2.2 but when we speak of Stock Samy Firmware and Odin it is imposible i have tested it. And Omega is great but still Custom hehehehe
AlenKing said:
Yup but that is a custom ROM and with proper recovery you can go down to 4.2.2 but when we speak of Stock Samy Firmware and Odin it is imposible i have tested it. And Omega is great but still Custom hehehehe
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Oh yeah, I became aware of that very early on during my search. All the ROMs I've been trying to get working have been custom and Omega is the only one that's actually booted.
I'm just glad I found something that looks like my old TW 4.2.2. Don't really mind whether or not it's custom. It is a shame that you can't go back to older official Samsung firmware once you've updated though. What do you think the reason for that is?
Samsung's "control" issue

[Q] Should I update to KitKat 4.4.2? (MI7 Note 3)

In the hopes that this question may help others and not seeing this question being remotely asked from what i searched, Is it recommended to update to 4.4.2 KitKat or should I wait it out?
additional questions:
- is it better to flash it if i root my note 3? (MI7)
- should i root the note 3 at it's current version (4.3) and just stick to the roms currently available for it?
- most importantly, if i were to do the ota for 4.4.2 and root (with knox tripped) will i still be able to flash roms based on 4.4.2 (like cyanogenmod) without much problem?
things to know:
- I'm aware that installing the 4.4.2 update means i won't be able to revert back to 4.3.
- Mostly aware of the fact that a recovery is present for 4.4.2
- Not entirely sure if t-mobile locks their bootloaders on the new update. Some people on the forums hint that it's not locked but never really found a straight answer.
- Done a lot of forum digging but willing to search more if need be.
sincere apologies if my question sounds absurd and preposterous, however any answer is appreciated.
People have slightly mixed feelings on the update, but from what I'm seeing their mostly regretting taking the OTA or Odin flash and missing 4.3 JB. Though the new bootloader is not locked it would be better for you to just remain on 4.3 until devs can provide more support and information on the 4.4.2 official update. Besides as long as your on 4.3 you can still flash 4.4.2 roms and 4.3 roms you just need to follow instructions on the devs op. I myself opted to wait it out simply because my phone is flawless the way it is on 4.3 and there was not enough reason why 4.4.2 was a must have update, even if it was I still would have waited for the devs to do their thing first.
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Yeah I want to upgrade because I heard they fixed the AVRCP and I use it a lot, I was so pissed that samsung botched that when the note 3 came out. Now I hear that all the music apps can send meta data now.
If you cherish tethering, do not update.
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The short answer is no, and the long answer is hell no.
TWEAKED ROM has an update that stops the over-the-air (OTA) update. It's a separate zip with the mini-update.
Purest said:
Yeah I want to upgrade because I heard they fixed the AVRCP and I use it a lot, I was so pissed that samsung botched that when the note 3 came out. Now I hear that all the music apps can send meta data now.
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While not exactly the same, "The More You Know...": http://dailycaller.com/2014/03/13/n...tadata-can-reveal-everything-about-your-life/
I finally took the plunge and rooted 4.3 and did the kitkat update while maintaining root so I can use the sd card write fix. My thoughts, is there is no advantage to kitkat but more disadvantages. I still get the occasional stutter and lag which rarely happened on JB so I broke even on that.
But I'm using Nova launcher and now home button does not take me to my default home screen. So I have to swipe to home screen since I have a folder in there for certain apps and games. Also the animation now just starts from the center when opening app from home screen.
The other issue is I use a samsung Gear and have it set to automatically unlock my phone when it's near it. But now I lost the ripple effect. I just get the lock icon with the 4 directional arrow around it.
There's also a slight battery drain. When I updated I didn't lose anything nor have I added any apps. Still trying to determine the cause on this one.
The worse part is I can't use foxfi anymore as it hasn't been updated to work with tmobile note3. Luckily I'm rooted so hopefully I can't find another way like Trev's wifi tethering.
If I could go back I would. I was pretty happy with JB unrooted. But I wanted to see if my signal would get better. I get an extra bar but when I go to see the signal status, it's still -115db when I'm at work.
The only thing I'm enjoying is finally I have root again which I could've done on JB. Being able to use titanium backup and LMT Pie again is awesome. I should've rooted sooner.
skullstrider said:
In the hopes that this question may help others and not seeing this question being remotely asked from what i searched, Is it recommended to update to 4.4.2 KitKat or should I wait it out?
additional questions:
- is it better to flash it if i root my note 3? (MI7)
- should i root the note 3 at it's current version (4.3) and just stick to the roms currently available for it?
- most importantly, if i were to do the ota for 4.4.2 and root (with knox tripped) will i still be able to flash roms based on 4.4.2 (like cyanogenmod) without much problem?
things to know:
- I'm aware that installing the 4.4.2 update means i won't be able to revert back to 4.3.
- Mostly aware of the fact that a recovery is present for 4.4.2
- Not entirely sure if t-mobile locks their bootloaders on the new update. Some people on the forums hint that it's not locked but never really found a straight answer.
- Done a lot of forum digging but willing to search more if need be.
sincere apologies if my question sounds absurd and preposterous, however any answer is appreciated.
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Personally, for me, I feel that the KitKat update was beneficial in regards to battery life, and overall stability with ne6. The developers are obviously concentrating their efforts on the latest of updates. I recommend tweaked ROM as the features are endless, and the developer is a higher skilled one, unlike many that around. The boot loader are indeed not locked, and if you update to ne6 the latest KitKat, if you wanted you could back flash to nb4 kit kat, firmware and all, or just flash a nb4 based ROM in normal recovery, both work. Asop ROMs you will have no issue running either, as they are all unified, and are also based on KitKat.. Tethering, if you want the tethering i suggest a ROM, such as tweaked, and you will have that as well. Their are a lot of benefits man to updating, some may disagree, but their updates for a reason, stability, battery, modem, partitions, just an overall better experience. If you want a solid KitKat experience the way touch wiz should have been, with some awesome themes check out Wally's themes in the theme section and go ahead and hit me up for a tweaked alpha, or join the irc channel within dwitherells thread itself. Super helpful people. Willing to lend a hand. Good luck man.
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BenGentle said:
The short answer is no, and the long answer is hell no.
TWEAKED ROM has an update that stops the over-the-air (OTA) update. It's a separate zip with the mini-update.
While not exactly the same, "The More You Know...": http://dailycaller.com/2014/03/13/n...tadata-can-reveal-everything-about-your-life/
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I'm not quite sure what your talking about, but once you are rooted, and your device status is modified you automatically won't get the otas. Not just tweaked, but any ROM, including stock rooted.
It seems beneficial to you since you're using custom rom. I'm on kitkat rooted but knox has not been tripped and still "official" so I'm not gonna put custom rom and break warranty. I can still unroot.
My understanding is even if you have custom recovery you can't go back to 4.3 if your bootloader is upgraded to 4.4.
So for now my recommendation for anyone thinking of upgrading is stick to 4.3. Specially if you are running stock or just rooted.
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Still running 4.3 with Embryo ROM and runs flawless!
Don't update, run an aosp 4.4.3 ROM on your 4.3 boot loader, nuff said
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Don't update, run an aosp 4.4.3 ROM on your 4.3 boot loader, nuff said
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how can you do this? Im currently stock rooted 4.3 MI7 with knox 0x0. I thought you needed to update the bootloader to flash any 4.4 rom? If not, can I flash a rom using Mobile Odin Pro or safestrap or something without installing a custom recovery or kernel? Or do I pretty much have to trip knox to flash a 4.4 custom rom and keep the 4.3 bootloader?

[Q] SGH-I317 upgrading from 4.1.2 to 4.4?

I have rooted and flashed the original stock ROM to a 4.1.2 custom ROM few years ago.
Now I am trying to upgrade to the latest 4.4, e.g. the DN4-V2.2 ROM. However, after flashing it in TWRP, I became stuck at the Samsung boot logo and black screen.
My question is, do I need to upgrade to 4.2, 4.3 then I can try 4.4 ROMs? What is the best approach to go about this?
Also, I am seeing certain "Kernels" and "bootloaders" as prerequisites for 4.4. Can someone please let me know what I need to do to my 4.1.2 Note 2 in order to try the 4.4 ROMs? Thanks.
zhangla said:
I have rooted and flashed the original stock ROM to a 4.1.2 custom ROM few years ago.
Now I am trying to upgrade to the latest 4.4, e.g. the DN4-V2.2 ROM. However, after flashing it in TWRP, I became stuck at the Samsung boot logo and black screen.
My question is, do I need to upgrade to 4.2, 4.3 then I can try 4.4 ROMs? What is the best approach to go about this?
Also, I am seeing certain "Kernels" and "bootloaders" as prerequisites for 4.4. Can someone please let me know what I need to do to my 4.1.2 Note 2 in order to try the 4.4 ROMs? Thanks.
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Hit up the folks over in the DN4 thread. .
Flashing that build requires a few tricks that are posted in the OP of the thread.
If you still have issues. ..post in the QA thread for the rom...and they will help you out. .
I don't run DN roms so I'm sorry for not being more help to you. ..g

Help! Need Stock ROM for I747 running 4.4.4 custom ROM

I have a Galaxy S3, running a Slim Kat ROM with Android 4.4.4. I am need of a stock ROM that I could flash to my phone. When I try using Odin, predictably, it fails because the only stock ROM I can find is version 4.1. Does anyone have a stock ROM that would work? This phone was already rooted with a custom ROM when I bought it. I like the freedom and the absence of bloatware, but I have just had too many glitches. The battery life also seems worse with custom ROMS (I've tried several), and it wasn't good to start with. So, I would like to put a stock ROM on here.
if its an att (i747) see this post , it might help
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=66306367
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