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Magnetic Charging Cable for Z Ultra / Z1 incompetible

http://www.netimes.com/shop/magneti...ony-xperia-z-ultra-sony-xperia-z1-p-4975.html
Can anyone verify this? If it really works with Z1? i bought one and its not charging. I use a 2.1A Innergie Plug with a 2.1Amp input which is the same current as the original charger.

When you buy things from China/Hong Kong, you may get something dodgy - not saying you definately will, but when you hear about exploding iphones and whatnot, I think it is down to that.
I just bought the official charger for the Xperia Z Ultra, and took out the cable from the dock and just use that personally.

Have now 4 magntic charging cables dismantled from the dock, all 4 work perfectly and grant fast charging ..........................
(If You pay cheap, you get cheap, that´s a universal rule)

ma2k5 said:
When you buy things from China/Hong Kong, you may get something dodgy - not saying you definately will, but when you hear about exploding iphones and whatnot, I think it is down to that.
I just bought the official charger for the Xperia Z Ultra, and took out the cable from the dock and just use that personally.
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Is dismantling the dock easy? I'm somewhat of a beginner at things like that.
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Z1 Magnetic cable
finoqq84 said:
http://www.netimes.com/shop/magneti...ony-xperia-z-ultra-sony-xperia-z1-p-4975.html
Can anyone verify this? If it really works with Z1? i bought one and its not charging. I use a 2.1A Innergie Plug with a 2.1Amp input which is the same current as the original charger.
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Got one of these a couple of weeks ago and no problems with it. Using it with the official charger and seems to charge fine. Guess I got one that was not assembled on a Friday afternoon.

there's a sony magnetic charging cable in the dk32
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ma2k5 said:
When you buy things from China/Hong Kong, you may get something dodgy - not saying you definately will, but when you hear about exploding iphones and whatnot, I think it is down to that.
I just bought the official charger for the Xperia Z Ultra, and took out the cable from the dock and just use that personally.
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i just want 2 ask u about z ultra that u bought
battery life comparing with note2
r u happy with it??
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Do you know if the magnetic cable works with the USB port of a laptop?

kummers said:
Do you know if the magnetic cable works with the USB port of a laptop?
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no it doesn't
and the Z Ultra Dock and Z1 dock are the same except for the slot as the phones are different thickness - I use a ZU dock with my Z1
and to the OP - the Sony original charger has the data pins shorted out to enable fast charging when the phone detects this - it is the phone that decides whether to fast charge or not based on the shorted pins

Geoffxx said:
no it doesn't
and the Z Ultra Dock and Z1 dock are the same except for the slot as the phones are different thickness - I use a ZU dock with my Z1
and to the OP - the Sony original charger has the data pins shorted out to enable fast charging when the phone detects this - it is the phone that decides whether to fast charge or not based on the shorted pins
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Thank you, what do you mean wit " the OP"?, Which is the data pin?
Other hand, do you know if the cable has any polarity?

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yes there is polarity - +
The USB has 4x pins/connections - + and two data pins in the middle, as the mains charger has no use for data connection they are shorted out on the charger to enable the phone to identify a charger with fast charge ability
you could have a 2.1 amp charger connected to the phone but if the data pins are not shorted out the phone will limit the charge rate at 0.5 amps or 500ma

Magnet charging cable

Found this really good deal on ebay
for $4.99 including shipping for magnet adapter for mircoUsb
i think this is better than magnet actual cable(like in 2nd like below) because then i can use my cable for other purpose and dont have to carry 2 sort of cables.
the whole point of mircoUsb is that its universal so i like to keep it that way.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/30098646039...l?_sacat=0&_from=R40&_nkw=300986460391&_rdc=1
if some of you really are intent on buying actual entire cable well this might work for those of you
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1M-39-37-So...Adapters&var=640128657941&hash=item565bd83315
for $6.59 again including shipping
This is little expensive but its a good magnet cable
http://dx-box.com/brand-new-magneti...dapter-for-sony-xperia-z1-xperia-z-ultra.html
link here of me testing the magnet strength.
http://youtu.be/Wru5joIbKOU
i would say this cable was pretty good. you could text while it plugged in and it would fall. which is all i wanted.
i think these are great deals wanted to share them. this is better than opening the seal and loosening them just for charging every night.

Have you received yet?
Because i heard it can't suck in phone well drop out all the time.
Sorry for my English
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I bought a cheap magnetic charging cable on ebay and it doesn't stay attached well. It would be okay for in the car or on a desk perhaps, but you can't hold the phone with the cable in or pick it up, it'll just fall out.
Does anyone know if the cable pulled from the official dock is any better?

jacksonliam said:
I bought a cheap magnetic charging cable on ebay and it doesn't stay attached well. It would be okay for in the car or on a desk perhaps, but you can't hold the phone with the cable in or pick it up, it'll just fall out.
Does anyone know if the cable pulled from the official dock is any better?
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I pulled the cable from the Sony DK30 (Z Ultra dock) and it's pretty much as you described it. The cable pretty much detaches itself when I put the phone on the carpet for charging. Even if it doesn't detach, moving the phone is enough to shift the cable to the point where it stops charging.

Looks like these have made their way to Amazon now. A little more expensive but delivery is likely to be quicker http://amzn.to/1gfEhyI

Michealtbh said:
Looks like these have made their way to Amazon now. A little more expensive but delivery is likely to be quicker http://amzn.to/1gfEhyI
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Check those item reviews.
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This magnetic charging cable for Sony Xperia Z Ultra, sold by Amazon, can also be used with Sony Xperia Z1?
Thank you.

marc_ecko28 said:
Check those item reviews.
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I bought one from that exact seller and it works well with my Z1.
I wish the magnet were a little stronger but otherwise it's perfect.

paullu said:
Have you received yet?
Because i heard it can't suck in phone well drop out all the time.
Sorry for my English
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i didnt yet,
im just reading about people complaining about weak magnet. so im thinking, isnt that the point? so the phone wouldnt fall when the cable is pulled?
i dont know, im still waiting for it to come.

omar300 said:
i didnt yet,
im just reading about people complaining about weak magnet. so im thinking, isnt that the point? so the phone wouldnt fall when the cable is pulled?
i dont know, im still waiting for it to come.
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I agree with you, If the magnet is too strong it will drag the phone of someone trips over the cable, pulls it... and so on.

Q.Entity said:
I agree with you, If the magnet is too strong it will drag the phone of someone trips over the cable, pulls it... and so on.
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I wouldn't want it very strong but it has almost no strength at all. if you even lightly touch the cable it dislodges it.
I'd like to hear from someone who has the official one and the 3rd party one how the magnet strengths compare

I wouldn't waste your time on the one from Amazon, my first one I had didn't work and I've just received a replacement and the magnet is so weak if you move the cable it falls off!
I'm going to wait for more to come out.

maverick1103 said:
I wouldn't waste your time on the one from Amazon, my first one I had didn't work and I've just received a replacement and the magnet is so weak if you move the cable it falls off!
I'm going to wait for more to come out.
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see thats the problem sony isnt making cables like these, it designed the magnet charging port for the dock not for cable when cable is a better idea. its just depends on quality of magnet used isnt the cable now.
so lets wait for other 3rd party to make better cables.
the Chinese ones are no good as for now.
atleast they brought up a great idea.

Ordered one of these on ebay and the magnet is pretty strong but it's just very sensitive to tilting (I mean, it easily goes off when putting force in an angle). That's not weird though, look at the width of the magnet. Don't think much can be done about it... I can lift the phone by the magnetic cable if I just keep it straight.
Charging seems to go pretty slow though, perhaps it's more ment to deliver power while being in a dock (and just keeping things up to par) as opposed to actually properly charging it?
Would have to check how fast/slow it actually is but seemed to differ quite a bit with the regular usb charger. Any other opinions on this?

Hi,
i get DK31 and take the cable of. No difference with what i charge the phone /magnetic cable or original charger /

dagrim1 said:
Ordered one of these on ebay and the magnet is pretty strong but it's just very sensitive to tilting (I mean, it easily goes off when putting force in an angle). That's not weird though, look at the width of the magnet. Don't think much can be done about it... I can lift the phone by the magnetic cable if I just keep it straight.
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That is very different to my Amazon one. There is no chance of moving the phone at all with the magnet on the cable. It holds the connector to the phone but any movement in the phone or cable and they come apart.
Do you have a link for the one you ordered ?
I think the speed of charging is entirely down to the source used. My new Macbook pro charges full speed but my wife's Dell laptop is painfully slow

maltloaf said:
That is very different to my Amazon one. There is no chance of moving the phone at all with the magnet on the cable. It holds the connector to the phone but any movement in the phone or cable and they come apart.
Do you have a link for the one you ordered ?
I think the speed of charging is entirely down to the source used. My new Macbook pro charges full speed but my wife's Dell laptop is painfully slow
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Sure, it was this one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/161116135387
Just the cable, so using it with the normal/official charger

dagrim1 said:
Sure, it was this one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/161116135387
Just the cable, so using it with the normal/official charger
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Thank you. Sadly that seller doesn't ship to the UK. My search continues !

maltloaf said:
Thank you. Sadly that seller doesn't ship to the UK. My search continues !
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Please let me know if your successful, as I has two of those 'Official Sony' cables if Amazon, first didn't work and 2nd was so weak git a refund now, but would like to get one, even if it comes from Hong Kong!
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dagrim1 said:
Sure, it was this one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/161116135387
Just the cable, so using it with the normal/official charger
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I've ordered this one, waiting patiently... From Hong Kong to Italy maybe come the next month, but this will solve the problem to not ope the charging door. A friend of mine got Xperia Z and loose the water resistance due to door removed...
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Sony original magnetic charging

I was searching for magnetic cables of Sony Z1 and I found this on ebay: ebay.com/itm/Genuine-Original-Sony-Magnetic-Charging-Cable-for-Xperia-Z-Ultra-Z1-L39H-New-/251364357743?pt=US_Cell_Phone_PDA_Cables_Adapters&hash=item3a867bb66f
I am not sure if this is an original and it is sell only on China. Anyone already buy this and know if it is original from Sony?

I've got one on the way to me now. As soon as i get it I'll come back with my findings for you!
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I have two of those. They are NOT genuine, but a rather good attempt at KIRFing it.
They do work, but the magnet is a little on the weak side. The connector part seems somewhat deeper than the genuine item, so in all likelihood, this will work cases (provided they aren't too thick).

GustavoHenrique said:
I was searching for magnetic cables of Sony Z1 and I found this on ebay: ebay.com/itm/Genuine-Original-Sony-Magnetic-Charging-Cable-for-Xperia-Z-Ultra-Z1-L39H-New-/251364357743?pt=US_Cell_Phone_PDA_Cables_Adapters&hash=item3a867bb66f
I am not sure if this is an original and it is sell only on China. Anyone already buy this and know if it is original from Sony?
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yea its not original but good as original would be, IF sony actually ever made one. lol
i bought same cable from other side, before it was available on ebay.
i would say the price has decreased a bit so you guys are getting good deal here.

any review ?

If is not Original they made a pretty good fake job. I get DK31 and I am worry if that dock is not fake either.
So where is the OMG Sony Magnetic cable?

I've had the cable for a week or so now and am pretty happy with it. Fairly sure it is just a good Chinese knock off but everything works as expected. Makes charging a breeze by not having to open the flap every time, only issue is it is a bit hard to line up in the dark.
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rotorsk8r said:
I've had the cable for a week or so now and am pretty happy with it. Fairly sure it is just a good Chinese knock off but everything works as expected. Makes charging a breeze by not having to open the flap every time, only issue is it is a bit hard to line up in the dark.
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Could you tell us what the average time of charging is? (lets say from 15% to 100%)

I'll look for for you, i usually just plug it in as i go to sleep and it charges it perfectly.
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I have original DK31, but phone can't be charged through usb on laptop. DK31 can charge phone only with wall socket.
But it's better than micro-usb.

quick question on the subject, while the dock always keep your phone inserted at the same place soyou don't mix the positive and negative contacts, the magnetic cable doesn't seem to have any alignment indicator, does it matter which oriantation you connect it? or both sides work? i'm worried the wrong side could fry the phone...

shteren said:
quick question on the subject, while the dock always keep your phone inserted at the same place soyou don't mix the positive and negative contacts, the magnetic cable doesn't seem to have any alignment indicator, does it matter which oriantation you connect it? or both sides work? i'm worried the wrong side could fry the phone...
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the 'sony' side should be facing upward.

bogdan wst said:
Could you tell us what the average time of charging is? (lets say from 15% to 100%)
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I found that it charges at the exact same rate as a standard usb cable. Like I said I do it overnight so I can't give the exact time frame
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Hi,
Is there a cable to charge the battery of the phone by the USB port of the laptop?

I got these from an online seller here in the Philippines, it says its genuine but i cannot find any official sony links for these. And one thing i noticed, it charges very slow compared to the one that came with the dock.
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eDogBY said:
I have original DK31, but phone can't be charged through usb on laptop. DK31 can charge phone only with wall socket.
But it's better than micro-usb.
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I've just replaced the flaps so I want a magnetic one, as it keeps snapping off. Will let you know my findings when I get it.

Here some more adresses for a magnetic cable....
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/magnetic-charging-cable-for-sony-xperia-z1-and-z-ultra-black-p41526.htm#
http://www.miniinthebox.com/nl/100c...rds_shopping&gclid=CLKBtoryz7sCFYZd3godwi0A7A
http://www.miniinthebox.com/nl/nieu...rds_shopping&gclid=CPi-oMTW0rsCFUtP3godqiAAZQ
http://www.marktplaats.nl/a/telecom...ltra-magneet-oplader-magnetische-oplader.html
Because i'm dutch i'm ordering the one from Marktplaats

As I have read in amazon.de and amazon.co.uk about any chinese recharging magnetic cables, most of people leave utterly negatives ones, they tell after some time it does not recharge because of some magnetic problem, I didn#t really get what exactly. I would advice to use instead original docking station from Sony, again most of comments in both sources were positives, That is why I don#t trust in chinese cables, phone is too expensive to take a risk ...

Ordered this product. Will post a detailed review for everyone. Including charging times.
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And were did you ordered it?
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[Q] Wireless Charging

Seen a few sites mention the Z1C has Wireless Charging.
Does anyone know?
Going to get magnetic cables if not.

No afraid not
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Thanks
Are the magnetic cables for the Xperia Z, Xperia Z1 and Xperia Z1 Compact all the same?

HarpingOn said:
Thanks
Are the magnetic cables for the Xperia Z, Xperia Z1 and Xperia Z1 Compact all the same?
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Yes they are. I picked one up off eBay and it works fine.
Sent from my Xperia Z1 PerfectSize, I mean "Compact"

withoutwings said:
Yes they are. I picked one up off eBay and it works fine.
Sent from my Xperia Z1 PerfectSize, I mean "Compact"
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I think I'm going to hunt a few mobile shops for the official magnetic dock tomorrow.
Get a look at more cases too. This Roxfit Book Case is expensive trash.

I think it might be possible to make a qi receiver with a magnetic clamp to go on the side pins, with the pad inside a back case. I wonder if anyone will do this? Like the universal micro usb ones, but with xperia magnetic connector in the phone end.
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QI wireless charging standard
So you are sure that Z1 Compact did not support QI wireless charging standard?

okonek said:
So you are sure that Z1 Compact did not support QI wireless charging standard?
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Yes, Z1 Compact does NOT support Qi. It has magnetic charging port though.

Questions regarding of the magnetic charger

I just bought the compact from a person for $300 that came with everything, including case, magnetic charger, magnetic dock, and screen protector. I have a question, should i use the magnetic charger or should i get a better one? If so, what do you recommend that i should get? I hear rumors that some magnetic chargers can mess up the charging port of the phone and can damage it. I need some opinions. I cant upload the pic but I provide a link of how the charger looks like.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Magneti...l_Phone_PDA_Chargers&var=&hash=item3f2b58a2f8

I have magnetic cable for almost 10 euro and everything works great. No problem all. It is identical like in your link. So this should ve good. My cable have 3-4 months old

mosespl said:
I have magnetic cable for almost 10 euro and everything works great. No problem all. It is identical like in your link. So this should ve good. My cable have 3-4 months old
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Thats all i needed to know, Thank you sir!

One more thing. Before firts charging install elixir2 and turn it on and in battery section after plug in you will see Info about charging value of voltage and speed on mAh. Compare to stock charger. My first cable was crappy and charged very slowly. Seller replace cable without problem. These values was smaller on bad cable. But second one is good so far. So extra edvice check this firstly.
Peace yo

Yep, my magnetic charger from eBay seems to charge my z1c faster

mosespl said:
One more thing. Before firts charging install elixir2 and turn it on and in battery section after plug in you will see Info about charging value of voltage and speed on mAh. Compare to stock charger. My first cable was crappy and charged very slowly. Seller replace cable without problem. These values was smaller on bad cable. But second one is good so far. So extra edvice check this firstly.
Peace yo
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Appreciate it bro!
maddie01 said:
Yep, my magnetic charger from eBay seems to charge my z1c faster
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I know right, My phone usually get charged up to 4 hours....It seems kinda normal, but I just got the Magnector X Charger from Amazon yesterday and damn it is so good, holds the phone well with strong magnet and usually get charged around 2-2.5 hours...the sad part is that It won't fit in my case smh!!!! I have to remove it in order to use the Magnector X Charger....Im referring to the charger only, not the Adaptor , but it still good tho.

So, I have a question..The magnetic charger I bought was a generic one that came in a blue and white box from ebay and it does come off the phone too easily and seems to fall off a lot. It was very inexpensive so I think you may have a better quality one? Does your stay on firml;y? or does it fall off easily?
I may look for the one yopu have.
Another question; Logically I will get the Xperia Z3 Compact Next. does the magnetic charger work on the new Z3 Compact? Anyone?
Thanks!

maddie01 said:
So, I have a question..The magnetic charger I bought was a generic one that came in a blue and white box from ebay and it does come off the phone too easily and seems to fall off a lot. It was very inexpensive so I think you may have a better quality one? Does your stay on firml;y? or does it fall off easily?
I may look for the one yopu have.
Another question; Logically I will get the Xperia Z3 Compact Next. does the magnetic charger work on the new Z3 Compact? Anyone?
Thanks!
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I really don't know much about the original magnetic charger i got since it comes with the phone that I bought from the gentlemen. It seems strong but not too strong tho, I had to move it a bit around to get it to hold, it does not fall off too easily, i would say average, but I recommend that you go to Amazon and buy the Magnector X Charger (Adaptor or Cable) if money isn't an issue to you. Im telling you that the Magnector X has a very strong magnet than the magnetic charger I been using....You won't regret it! I never own a Xperia Z3 compact since its too expensive but I have a buddy who owns it and i let him used my charger and it fit quite well....every magnetic charger should be compatible to all xperia devices (Z1, Z1c, Z2, Z3, Z3c), I mean come on, they look the same lol. Go for the Magnector X If you want a powerful magnet and if the cost isn't too much for you.

Just purchased the Magnetor X from Amazon for around $14.00. Strange why Ebay does not list it?

maddie01 said:
Just purchased the Magnetor X from Amazon for around $14.00. Strange why Ebay does not list it?
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Ebay does sell it bro, its just very pricey, that is if your in the US like me, but i went for Amazon since its cheaper:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Magnector-X...Phone_PDA_Cables_Adapters&hash=item418548b4f5
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Magnector-X...Phone_PDA_Cables_Adapters&hash=item418548b671

You are correct. I guess I did not search correctly as I only saw the cheaper ones...price is much higher so glad I went with Amazon! Thanks again

Agree with Screen size, (need for 4.5-4.7)
uchechris said:
Ebay does sell it bro, its just very pricey, that is if your in the US like me, but i went for Amazon since its cheaper:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Magnector-X...Phone_PDA_Cables_Adapters&hash=item418548b4f5
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Magnector-X...Phone_PDA_Cables_Adapters&hash=item418548b671
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I had the Z1C, Z3C and Z5C...and I used the magnetic Charger and it was awesome. Great SIZE, IP67 Dust/Water resistant and magnetic charger..Sony was good with software updates...My Company made me get an iphone....So, I sold the Z5C and have recently rebelled and got a Galaxy s7 as I love the Fast Charging Wireless Pad..
I am on the lookout for Sony's Next phone in the 4.5"-4.7" size as that will be my next fun phone...not sure what they are going to call it?
Good Day All...

maddie01 said:
I had the Z1C, Z3C and Z5C...and I used the magnetic Charger and it was awesome. Great SIZE, IP67 Dust/Water resistant and magnetic charger..Sony was good with software updates...My Company made me get an iphone....So, I sold the Z5C and have recently rebelled and got a Galaxy s7 as I love the Fast Charging Wireless Pad..
I am on the lookout for Sony's Next phone in the 4.5"-4.7" size as that will be my next fun phone...not sure what they are going to call it?
Good Day All...
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They have released Xperia "X Compact". According to past pattern, they might release a new model around October.