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The new Sony watch: SmartWatch!

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It is called, simply, Sony SmartWatch (slightly unfortunate tagline: "Touch your world"), runs $149, and is supposed to come out in March. Here, I'll let it speak for itself for a moment.
Funnily enough, it lacks the one feature we most consistently associate with a watch—indeed, a feature we might consider indispensable: the continuous display of the time.
But in order to preserve battery life, the Sony SmartWatch only tells you the time when you "ask" it, by tapping once on the screen.
Tapping again calls up a range of apps on this Android-compatible device.
You can check your e-mail, texts, the weather, Facebook, Twitter. When a call comes in on your phone, you can reject or accept it via the watch (quite handy if you're wearing a headset).
And the thing is tiny, 36 millimeters by 36 millimeters, 8 millimeters thick, and weighing just 15.5 grams before you slap on a wristband of your choosing.
A few more details, for the spec-hungry: the watch uses Bluetooth to manage its commands to your Droid, and sports a multitouch color OLED display.
Sony's keeping somewhat mum on battery life, but CNET says about a week with low usage, half a week with moderate usage.
The watch is something of an update of Sony's LiveView watch, which was consistently ranked among the top handful of smart watches out there.
Why do smart watches matter?
I'll restate the obvious: they prevent you from having to fumble around in your pocket, constantly.
They stand to transform your wrist into something akin to (if a wee bit short of) a heads-up display.
It might seem like a minor point, but smart watch partisans call the experience transformative, and breakthrough technologies often arise through little ergonomic efficiencies like this.
(My one complaint is that these things will surely make the often oppressive feeling of constant connectedness even more oppressive and constant.)
EDIT: I have found a website selling the device, but I have no confirmation about it being geniune or not. Anyways, on own risk check it out, but I cannot be held responsible for making you buy fake items.
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AMAZON.CO.UK is doing a pre-sale already with as release date: February 29, 2012
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sony-Generation-SmartWatch-Smartphone-Accessory/dp/B006RJR62I/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1329310313&sr=1-3
Some specifications about the Sony SmartWatch:
General
Platform - Android 2.0 and up
Dimensions - 36 mm x 36 mm, thickness: 8 mm
Weight - 15.5 g main unit, 26 g for watchband
Bluetooth™ General
Bluetooth™ core version - 3.0
Operating Range (m) - 10 (The LiveView had the same Range, but the connection dropped at around 8m already so this cannot be trusted.)
Communications
Messaging - Can read sms and email and calendar reminders on display
Social Networking - Services Facebook, Twitter
Calls - Reject and mute calls, pre-defined sms, take call and use headset
Power
Power consumption - Low usage, 1 week. Typical usage, 3-4 days, Heavy usage,1 full day. (Again, the LiveView had a very similar ammount, but did not make it one full day @ Typical usage)
Charging connector - USB cable (Probably MircoUSB)
UI/Wearing
Graphical display - Multi-touch color OLED display
Keys 1
Wearing Watchband and clip
Music player control Via display
Sales Kit
Kit contents:
SmartWatch main unit with clipBlack watchband
Watchband adapter
USB charger
User guide + warranty leaflet

Just hope you can manage spotify from it.
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The player should be universal. I have multiple BT devices and most of em can control Spotify, even if it's just the PLAY button.

It's an interesting dillemma, isn't it? The primary function of a watch is to be a reliable time teller but trying to preserve standby time means making less use of it.
To justify such a device, you would obviously need to constantly utilize it, but "heavy" usage of the device would mean having to recharge your watch every day if it makes it that far.
Not for me, personally, but I can see it being a hit with a niche group of users.

Very nice !!

Good to see someone trying a watch since ms's failure with the Timex some years ago.
The need is there given the right solution.

i think i'll prefer the Moto ACTV better
unless some one can hack this baby as well and root android on it

AllGamer said:
i think i'll prefer the Moto ACTV better
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Possibly, but $250 puts it into the same class as a smart phone. I think the pound price is about $125-$150 US.

Looks nice!!

Great
And the Price ?

TubeDrug said:
Great
And the Price ?
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Approx. $149 - 119Euro

AMAZON.CO.UK is doing a pre-sale already with as release date: February 29, 2012
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sony-Generat...9310313&sr=1-3

very very interesting and useable item

http://www.imwatch.it/us-en/
Sorry, but I've got to support these guys. They definitely need my funds to keep up with the rent on their ultra-clean office facilities.

I just preordered one myself, so I did some research on various online shops and thought I'd share it here:
amazon.co.uk €120 to be released on feb 29
mobilefun.co.uk €91
clove.co.uk: €84 first stock in early march, not sure if this includes any wristband
cyberport.de €80
cyberport.at €81 for austrian customers only
All prices converted to EUR (17.02.2012)

I hope it won't be as disappointing as Sony's Liveview..it was a wste of money..

Well I use the first LiveView with the SGS2 and it works really good.
The new LiveView price is to high and I think it´s cause only "Sony" branded!

I have SGS2 and liveview, and it suck big time.. all the time broken connection

Amazon now have it listed as April, I've pre-ordered it as I don't like taking my phone out to read a message when I'm out.
All the things it can do are added by installing them to the phone, I've already seen someone is adding things that Sony missed like gmail

very Nice . But Expensive

[DISCUSSION] Moto 360

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Ok Google: I want to Wear this on my wrist Now!

Deeco7 said:
Ok Google: Make this appear on my wrist Now!
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The animated GIF for this thing looks amazing. I can't wait!

Has Motorola said anything about the batery life for the Moto 360?
Anyone have prospective guesses?

daboross said:
Has Motorola said anything about the batery life for the Moto 360?
Anyone have prospective guesses?
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Nobody really knows anything yet, from what I can tell. You might want to attend the Hangout by Motorola for this in ~23 hours, though; presumably we'll get some concrete information from it: https://plus.google.com/u/0/events/c5oghenfqmpls1i2tmug84vgk1c

I might finally be interested in a watch. Gorgeous!
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looks like Moto is on the ball with this device! looks great!!

I think it will have Wireless Charging I dont see any port for charging if yes would be great

Custom watchfaces? Finally I can emulate the face from zero escape, and maybe add bluetooth functions to make team pairs and stuff

What I would be especially excited about is the possibility of using the OS to rotate the display to the perfect angle for viewing. Think about how much easier it would make the viewing angles and interaction so much better. I just hope Google patents it (defensively) before Apple does.

Price theories? It's moto so I know they're gonna try to go low.
Hoping under $150

LudicrousPeed said:
What I would be especially excited about is the possibility of using the OS to rotate the display to the perfect angle for viewing. Think about how much easier it would make the viewing angles and interaction so much better. I just hope Google patents it (defensively) before Apple does.
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very good idea!! should make a great feature
i also like the gestures and bio mechanic of the HOT Smartwatch
android wear has to get it

LudicrousPeed said:
What I would be especially excited about is the possibility of using the OS to rotate the display to the perfect angle for viewing. Think about how much easier it would make the viewing angles and interaction so much better. I just hope Google patents it (defensively) before Apple does.
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Really should let Google know your idea asap LOL or Apple will patent everything
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Agreed on the Moto 360 being a gorgeous entry into the SmartWatch market. Looking forward to hearing some specs and pricing.
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I'm just happy that it is 'Motorola' that had built this as I'm hopeful that the price point will be affordable.

LudicrousPeed said:
What I would be especially excited about is the possibility of using the OS to rotate the display to the perfect angle for viewing. Think about how much easier it would make the viewing angles and interaction so much better. I just hope Google patents it (defensively) before Apple does.
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And this is exactly what I want most. It's the thing that's kept me from buying a smartwatch up until this point.
This would completely solve the issue I have with riding the motorcycle and wanting GPS. GPS units that work for bikes start at like $300-$400, which is crazy. This I could just look at my wrist with. Just gotta keep the zipper on my jacket wrist open lol

why all moto 360 images have a black bar on the bottom?
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpY8O5Zer78&feature=share&t=13m20s it seems to have the bottom cutted out as well
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnerqDWwVgg there is nothing indicating that black bar, not on 3D images neither the clock app design, only on the ending you can see the bar http://i.imgur.com/PSElyeR.png.
- http://youtu.be/OYYag3oHh9k?t=52s it seems to have a little glow...
- On the SDK ( http://www.androidcentral.com/sites.../2014/03/wear-sdk-preview_0.jpg?itok=kTuL85Cm ) there is no black bar and the black bar on the moto 360 seems to hide the menu indicator http://developer.android.com/wear/images/screens/circle_message2.png
http://www.droid-life.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/moto-360-3.png
- all the screens i've found seems to have corners next to the connections ( http://static1.i4u.com/sites/defaul...n_image/images/2007/lg-round-lcd-displays.jpg ) , and the cutted out screens http://i00.i.aliimg.com/img/pb/718/757/609/609757718_240.jpg don't, so it may be a technical thing.
Post based on: https://plus.google.com/109733301835512457750/posts/NGj4gZwWqYY
is it to put the motorola or service providers logo? or !finger print reader!?, what do you think it may be?

TeraJL said:
why all moto 360 images have a black bar on the bottom?
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpY8O5Zer78&feature=share&t=13m20s it seems to have the bottom cutted out as well
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnerqDWwVgg there is nothing indicating that black bar, not on 3D images neither the clock app design, only on the ending you can see the bar http://i.imgur.com/PSElyeR.png.
- http://youtu.be/OYYag3oHh9k?t=52s it seems to have a little glow...
- On the SDK ( http://www.androidcentral.com/sites.../2014/03/wear-sdk-preview_0.jpg?itok=kTuL85Cm ) there is no black bar and the black bar on the moto 360 seems to hide the menu indicator http://developer.android.com/wear/images/screens/circle_message2.png
http://www.droid-life.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/moto-360-3.png
- all the screens i've found seems to have corners next to the connections ( http://static1.i4u.com/sites/defaul...n_image/images/2007/lg-round-lcd-displays.jpg ) , and the cutted out screens http://i00.i.aliimg.com/img/pb/718/757/609/609757718_240.jpg don't, so it may be a technical thing.
Post based on: https://plus.google.com/109733301835512457750/posts/NGj4gZwWqYY
is it to put the motorola or service providers logo? or !finger print reader!?, what do you think it may be?
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good point.hopefully someone would clarify soon.

Unanswered Questions
The most interesting unanswered questions about the Moto 360 (or any AW device, for that matter) are: what SoC is supported/being used (presumably an ARM v7a core), what is the battery life (it had better be better than the QC Toq), what sensors are expected to be in use, what battery size and placement, are these inductively charged, how realistic/expensive is a color & round display.

BeNexT said:
I think it will have Wireless Charging I dont see any port for charging if yes would be great
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or may be it will be some mechanism which will charge the watch by motion !!! remember some analog watches have that mechanism, but main thing is if so , will it be charging the watch sufficiently and quick?
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LudicrousPeed said:
What I would be especially excited about is the possibility of using the OS to rotate the display to the perfect angle for viewing. Think about how much easier it would make the viewing angles and interaction so much better. I just hope Google patents it (defensively) before Apple does.
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I think that they are talking about this:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/The-...tation-free-1.8-inch-display-and-more_id54095

[Video] [Images] Sony Smartwatch 3 First Look

Sony Smartwatch 3 First Look​
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Hey all
With IFA 2014 underway, we have more info on the Sony Smartwatch 3. Lets start with a hand on video​
Credit to Which
Sony Smartwatch 3 key features:
Design: Sony has taken a sporty look with its latest smartwatch, with its rubber wrist band that can be swapped by popping the center watch out of its strap. While there are several colors available, they are of all the same type, so its down to Sony if any other style will become available. Its design does open up a few other possibilities than just a wrist watch, SmartPocketWatch anybody? As with most of the new wave of Smartwatches, this has no camera, for me no big deal. The device features a bright 1.6" 320x320 transflective TFT LCD display.
Android Wear: With Google's big push to unite all wearables to one operating system, Sony has provided with the Smartwatch 3. Its built around voice command and simple gestures to help with the functionality of such a small screen. It allows functions such as the ability to reply to text messages, view Email or get directions, all from the wrist!
Fitness Monitoring & Walkman: Sony has introduced a service called lifelog, this helps users monitor and develop their fitness and well being. Sony is also rolling out a new Walkman app, this will enable the pairing of Bluetooth headphones to the Smartwatch.
Lets take a look at some images of the Sony Smartwatch 3.​
Looking forward to hearing members thoughts on this new design:good:​
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And Sony have just lost a customer.
I hate watches with none changable straps, plus it looks cheap compared to the SW2.

mitch1974 said:
And Sony have just lost a customer.
I hate watches with none changable straps, plus it looks cheap compared to the SW2.
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It's the strap that looks cheap. A full metal one is coming soon.
http://www.mobilefun.com/48552-sony-smartwatch-3-metal.htm
I hope they show it as soon as possible. Many people dislikes this watch because of the rubber strap (wich is great for sports and swimming).
Remember is the first IP68 and with GPS. Probably will be the first to fully support the extra features of Android Wear 2.

And Sony may have just regained a customer.
(Unless the LG G Watch R tempts me away, stupid name though, I may have to go for the Smartwatch 3, just because it would be a less embarrasing name to tell people if they ask what I'm wearing)

It seems is a "last minute" move from Sony.
The rubber strap gave a negative first impression in many websites and forum comments. A full metal watch+strap may atract more people.
I was Ok with rubber because it's perfect for swimming or sweating, but giving options is the right path to shine and sell more.
I'm also really looking forward to see in action the sport/multimedia features without the phone. This watch is the first of a new generation.
Bring IT ON!!!

Despite missing the heart rate sensor, in terms of specs and hackeability, this seems to be the best (specwise) smartwatch soon in the market.
The screen is transreflective, wich, for me is a plus.
Would like to know if I can buy the metalic bracelet version on the release day, or will have to buy after, but definitelly very excited about this smartwatch:
Memory
Flash 4GB eMMC
RAM 512MB
Sensors
Ambient light sensor Yes
Accelerometer Yes
Magnetometer Yes
Gyro Yes
Wi-Fi® Wi-Fi® enabled
GPS Yes
Bluetooth
Bluetooth specification 4.0
Transfer rate < 3Mbps
Power class Class 1
NFC Yes, to power on the SWR50 and start the Android Wear host
application
USB Yes, standard micro USB for charging and ADB installation
Battery
Type Li-polymer
Capacity 420 mAh
Charge time ≤ 1 hour
Usage time
Typical usage Up to 2 days
Standby time Up to 4 days
Environmental data
Operating temperature range -20°C to +60°C
Operating humidity range 5% to 99% RH
Storage temperature range -40°C to +85°C
Storage humidity range 20% to 95% RH
Charging temperature range 0°C to 45°C
Water and dust classification IP68*

Wi-Fi?
Where did you read it has Wi-Fi?
In official specs they don't say it:
http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/products/smartwear/smartwatch-3-swr50/specifications/
Edit:
Ok it's here: http://dl-developer.sonymobile.com/documentation/whitepapers/SmartWatch3_SWR50_WP_1.pdf
Wi-Fi "enabled", what does it mean? normal wifi?
If it has wifi opens the door for many more things like music apps downloading music without the phone or to sync exercices directly...
It's weird they don't talk about it in Sony website...
What do you think?

Fingers crossed for the Wifi thing!

Sony Smartwatch 3 Metal Black (exclusive)
Before someone asks: This is a real image.

Nice, really nice. Thanks for sharing.

First official ad video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEdIyFXxZ7w

nCoder said:
The screen is transreflective, wich, for me is a plus.
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I do not think it is a tranfectif screen.
Does anyone has already seen the sw3 ON without backlight?

It is confirmed in official specs. I don't doubt of that.
But wifi is only a spec in internal documents.
In public Sony website they don't mention it. That's a mystery at the moment.

In google play, it also mentions it's WiFi Ready!!!
Also Bluetooth 4.1
https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=sony_smartwatch_3_black
Bluetooth 4.1 devices can act as both hub and end point simultaneously. This is hugely significant because it allows the host device to be cut out of the equation and for peripherals to communicate independently.
For example, whereas previously a smartwatch would need to talk to your phone to get data from a heart monitor, now the smartwatch and heart monitor can talk directly saving your phone’s battery and then upload their compiled results directly to your phone. This is crucial to the Internet of Things concept: peripherals become independent and can build their own networks before bringing the collation of all their data to you.

What does WiFi ready add in? I can't wait for this watch!
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It is unclear if its a mistake or not. Sony hasnt said anything about it. In the prototypes is not enabled.
We can only guess. But the potential is big. For example imagine a music service to download music before going running, or after the actitvity to sinc everything without using the phone...
Wa have to wait for the Andorid Wear 2.0 update...

Has the Nike ap already been tested? http://www.kdramastars.com/articles...-s-newest-smartwatch-release-date-october.htm

Doogee S1 smart watch will be released to call and support 3G network.

Have you heard that Chinese cellphone manufacturer Doogee is able to produce its first wearable device , Doogee S1 smart watch. This smart watch is different with the traditional one , which can complement the fitness features, and it can also track your sports achievement, of course monitor your heart rate. It doesn’t need to be connected to a smart watch.
Why do i say that? You can make calls with a SIM slot to Doogee watch. independently from your phone, and even connect to the internet via 3G networks. We’re still waiting on the full final details but we hope to also see WIFI in the device too.
Check Doogee S1 main features:
Dialer / Bluetooth phone call: Unlike most smart watches, the DOOGEE S1 can independently make / receive phone calls with its own SIM card
Phonebook / call log / message / music sync: Save time: Access notifications quickly on your wrist using smartphone sync
Heart Rate Monitor: DOOGEE S1 is a smartwatch can accurately test your heart rate and closely take care of your body condition
Pedometer: Record the steps you take and count your exercise distance to monitor your fitness
Real Time Weather and Barometer Information: When get connected to network, it will report weather and barometer to give you a considerate remind
Extra Features: Sound recorder, music player, calendar.
By the way, i got the good news that it has been released now. Will you have a try?
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how much is it?
I'm looking for some videos

it costs 144$, i think its a pretty damn good price for that kind of smartwatch

What's the supposed battery life?

hmm its really nice where can i find? more cheap )

Walter H. said:
What's the supposed battery life?
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It has 600mAh battery, which can support long time working ! you can have a try, to compare with others.
:fingers-crossed:

FumiJ said:
It has 600mAh battery, which can support long time working ! you can have a try, to compare with others.
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Seems good, I've a ZGPAX Star something smartwatch, it has 300mAh and lasts 2 days. So 3-4 days with the Doogee s1 would be fine, we'll see!

I'm looking for a descent smartwatch. Would you propose this one, or the more expensive Moto 360? Or even something else.

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I'm looking for a descent smartwatch. Would you propose this one, or the more expensive Moto 360? Or even something else.
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this is the first time that doogee released Doogee smart watch, it shows wearable device becomes more important in our life.

FumiJ said:
this is the first time that doogee released Doogee smart watch, it shows wearable device becomes more important in our life.
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I trust Doogee as a phone maker, so I guess I would trust them as a watch maker, too. Seems very nice though

this price for a stand-alone android 4.4 watch? very nice. doogee is really bringing the competition, this may be the year smartwatches will become more widespread because of products like this

talevi said:
this price for a stand-alone android 4.4 watch? very nice. doogee is really bringing the competition, this may be the year smartwatches will become more widespread because of products like this
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Totally agree with you!

DOOGEE S1 Smartwatch (Camera Quality)
Hi
Can you send or show me sample images shot using the DOOGEE S1 ?
To determine the quality of the smartwatch camera
[email protected]
Thanking You

Any update on the status of this watch? Has anyone bought one yet?

afblangley said:
Any update on the status of this watch? Has anyone bought one yet?
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I bought one yesterday, unfortunately it doesn't sync with iPhone waiting to look after a rom! It has a great and easy fully functional android menu, although on every watch face it doesn't show steps n heart rate so you hahave to access them through menu. If you have any other question, do not hesitate to ask me.

In addition to your impressions of the overall build quality of the watch, I'd really like to know if it has the 1900 MHz band as advertised. This is critical to using it as a standalone device in the US. If it has both 850 and 1900, its a game changer in its class.

stavros_f said:
I bought one yesterday, unfortunately it doesn't sync with iPhone waiting to look after a rom! It has a great and easy fully functional android menu, although on every watch face it doesn't show steps n heart rate so you hahave to access them through menu. If you have any other question, do not hesitate to ask me.
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It doesn't work at all or just message notifications? I've heard this problem many times on chinese smartwatches, iOS just doesn't allow it.

I bought a cheap huawei mobile phone to sync my doogee smart watch but still it doesn't get any notification, it works standalone.. However it says that is waterproof ip67, yesterday when I was cleaning the dishes its screen flashed white twice, and from then it doesn't work at all.. I suggest you not to buy it

I'm sorry for your loss. I assume you're going to request a replacement? Keep us posted...

stavros_f said:
I bought a cheap huawei mobile phone to sync my doogee smart watch but still it doesn't get any notification, it works standalone.. However it says that is waterproof ip67, yesterday when I was cleaning the dishes its screen flashed white twice, and from then it doesn't work at all.. I suggest you not to buy it
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Glad i found this i was about to buy one. Anyone know of any good smartwatch that have notification and run 4.4?

screen always on huawei gt.

Hi,
i have huawei gt.
is the any way to put the screen always on and not only 5 minutes

No, that option It’s not available

then you’ll complain about battery life.

Isnt any hack to make this work? Thanks

Honestly an always on display on a watch is highly uneeded. you do not look at the screen ALL DAY. My Watch gets 12-14 days of battery and i absolutely love it. I have 0 issues with it compared to the Fossil/OG huawei watch i had. Wear OS needs alot of improvement. The huawei os could easily use improvements, especially in the notifications and the apps that send them, give spotify integration and ill be happy. A watch should be used as a breif notification tool not a phone imho

Thats Your opinion. I think have the choice to decide that os highly needed

I'll tell you why always on display is useful - I have amazfit pace with transreflective lcd - I can't count how many times per day I just do a quick look at the watch on the wrist of the hand e.g. lying on the desk while I'm working - without AoD I would have to lift up my hand and turn it with watch up or press the button with the other hand. Thanks but no.

Ok but i like this option. I just Im asking for that option. You dont understand what i am saying.

For the watch to be perfect, it just need to have an AOD mode and be open custom watch faces designing, it's silly they didn't implement those two from the beginning. What, instead of 12 days we got about a week's worth of battery? c'mon that's still best in class!!!

Provinomico said:
What, instead of 12 days we got about a week's worth of battery? c'mon that's still best in class!!!
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No, 2 days only like others watch with same caracteristics

Please give uS that option. Who like it ativate who dont stay the same

dersie said:
No, 2 days only like others watch with same caracteristics
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There're no other watches with same characteristics, this is the only watch to have this crazy battery life. I had the original huawei watch and having AOD with a custom watchface tuned for AOD having >95% of the screen in black, kind of like the watchface "GrayPlating", but without the seconds hand, it didn't really hurt battery life as much thanks to the screen being amoled, like the one in the Watch GT. So, I don't know what they are waiting for. Also, there should be an option to tune the sensitivity of wrist rise detection, because mine is lighting the screen with very casual movements all the time! and that's hurting battery life as much as having a AOD with a tuned watchface, so implementing that would get us AOD almost for free!

Provinomico said:
There're no other watches with same characteristics, this is the only watch to have this crazy battery life. I had the original huawei watch and having AOD with a custom watchface tuned for AOD having >95% of the screen in black, kind of like the watchface "GrayPlating", but without the seconds hand, it didn't really hurt battery life as much thanks to the screen being amoled, like the one in the Watch GT. So, I don't know what they are waiting for. Also, there should be an option to tune the sensitivity of wrist rise detection, because mine is lighting the screen with very casual movements all the time! and that's hurting battery life as much as having a AOD with a tuned watchface, so implementing that would get us AOD almost for free!
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Firmware version 1.0.8.34 just installed, and they implemented some kind of AOD!!! it was a pretty obvious move. Basic AOD with just an option for a digial watchface, or an analog one. On the plus side I love the analog one, it's quite sleek and clean, I wish I could set it as a regular watchface too! if you set AOD the wrist movement to wake is disabled... instead that makes the screen go from the lowest brightness setting, to the pre-set amount -or auto-. They also added a double-tap on the screen to wake. Cool to see they are rolling stuff little by little.
They should really open watchfaces design via a phone/desktop app or some sort of converter from watchmaker. I would pay for that, it'd make this watch perfect.

This watch became usable now.
I will be curious how will it impact on the battery life. Hopefully not a lot.

What I've noticed though, after update and with AOD on raise to wake doesn't work I have to press the button. Is it meant to be like that?

EagleEye92 said:
What I've noticed though, after update and with AOD on raise to wake doesn't work I have to press the button. Is it meant to be like that?
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Yeah, I guess the logic behind it was, if it's going to have an AOD watchface, and still wake up with random/casual wrist movements -false positives-, the impact on battery life would be even higher. You can double tap the screen to wake it up though.
avers said:
This watch became usable now.
I will be curious how will it impact on the battery life. Hopefully not a lot.
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Mine's going down at about 20% per day, with continuous heartbeat monitoring and TruSleep tracking on. I also do about 3-4hrs of exercise/week, so if it last for 5 days under this kind of usage it's all fine with me.
BTW it's also confirmed that they are going to publish an SDK for third-party development of watchfaces. Can't wait for that, hope it's full fledged, or even better, directly compatible with watchmaker's.

Someone can post a picture of the watch in this new AOD mode ?

avers said:
This watch became usable now.
I will be curious how will it impact on the battery life. Hopefully not a lot.
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dersie said:
Someone can post a picture of the watch in this new AOD mode ?
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Here you go, imho the digital one could do without the lines, and the numbers could be a bit thinner to reduce the number of pixels lit. Hope the upcoming sdk let us design AOD faces.
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So is 20 mins the max new screen on time ?

Archmag3 said:
So is 20 mins the max new screen on time ?
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yeah, seems so. Why would you need more? -genuinely interested-