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I am getting a little worried here.
It is advertised everywhere that the xda IIs has voice dial, which to me reffers to me talking into a bt headset and it calls that contact.
If this is not possible, can fonix ispeak sort it?
The device comes with fonix voicedial software, but it does not work through the headset. I have my MDAIII mounted on the windscreen in the car and manage to use voicedial to make calls with over 90% accuracy and then talk through my jabra bt headset.
Which unit do you have PDA2K or IIs? I haven't seen any postings yet comparing the two devices, O2 may have addressed some BT issues before launching the IIs.
I won't have one (IIs, already have PDA2K) till next week.
getting the 2's next week. new officail date is the 15th nov. so should recieve it on the 16th
So what does it take to make this work? is it impossible. Can we not do something?
it take it that this product is using the mic hardware and not bluetooth mic?
http://shop.store.yahoo.com/cellpoint/padrblvoreha.html
Anyone come acrross this before: (scroll down to Kai’s Bluetooth Headset Patch 2004 )
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/_archives/sep04/bluetooth.asp
could something simular be done on the xda's
Or is this something where only ever going to get to use with bluetooth v2?
read this an help me please
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=12824&highlight=
Its good to see progress being made but the main problem still is a hard ware based. The mic and speaker in phone hardware need to be bridged with the ppc... which gets me thinking.....as we can speak into ppc and listen to the caller then once we BT the call it was bridge/switch it.... dont understand why something so simple and a much required feature is missing :?
Hi,
I have installed the trial version of MS command and it seems to be doing the trick... I have a qtek 9090 and I did not see any installed software for voice dialing... Is it only on PDA2K?
Thanks.
Anonymous said:
Hi,
I have installed the trial version of MS command and it seems to be doing the trick... I have a qtek 9090 and I did not see any installed software for voice dialing... Is it only on PDA2K?
Thanks.
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MS Command doesn't support bluetooth headsets either.
From the MS blurb: "Bluetooth Headset Support - Voice Command does not support using a Bluetooth headset to initiate a voice command but you can use a Bluetooth headset during the phone conversation."
So its the same as fonix. You have to speak the dialling command into the device, and it only transfers to the bluetooth headset when the device starts dialling out. If you can put up with that, fonix works pretty well.
JD
Well as much as I was looking forward to getting a PDA2K or SX-66, I feel that this is a MAJOR drawback that has me thinking twice. I read that your cannot initiate VOICE calls using a BlueTooth headset no matter what software you are running. Is this accurate?
If so, then why can the Audiovox SMT5600 do it by the way of voice tags?
Thanks,
Frank
Previous ms smartphones and pocket pc phones have not supported the bluetooth handsfree profile which would allow voice dialling. Since the new devices now support it its up to the software developers to implement it in their software. For example, using my SE HBH-200 on my imate PDA2K i can initiate voice dialling on the headset but on the imate there is nothing to interface with. If the Audiovox can do it there is no reason why a more powerful pocket pc cant do it as well
Here is the bluetooth headset i'm waiting for.
Attached the manual and photos. Only if MS will get the profiles into the new ROM.
FCC link
The specs from
Stereo music streams wirelessly from your compatible phone via Bluetooth
technology
Built-in stereo FM RDS radio with automatic channel search
Switch easily between music and phone calls with compatible phones
Informative display shows the name or the number of the person who's calling,
SMS/MMS and missed calls notification, plus MP3 tracks or radio channels
Control buttons for music and FM radio
Talk-time up to 8h, standby time up to 200h
Stainless steel front cover
Available:
Planned availability in the 3rd quarter of 2005
https://gullfoss2.fcc.gov/prod/oet/...e=N&application_id=268706&fcc_id='PYAHS-12W'
does the Universal do all this??
http://www.nokia.co.uk/nokia/0,,73505,00.html
The Nokia Wireless Stereo Headset HS-12W supports the Bluetooth 1.2 specification with Handsfree 1.0 (HFP) and Headset 1.1 (HSP) profiles for phone calls, A2DP 1.0, AVRCP 1.0, GAVDP 1.0 for stereo audio and music features. Check your phone's compatibility with these specifications and profiles with your phone manufacturer. Nokia specific features will work only with specific Nokia phones.
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If it does these are on my christmas list!!!!!!!, exactlly what i want, and if caller id gets sorted, even sweeter.
i do hope. some information points that we will have ad2p in MS bluetooth stack. if not maybe we will get it from dell, toshiba or others with widcomm on wm5.
I have the HS-13W and doesn t work :evil: I hope with the new ROM...
ciao, Danilo
I've been keeping an eye on this one too but I can't find any mention of a date or price anywhere.
Does anyone have any news on this?
also waiting ...
Hi,
I am also watching for this headset. Not present yet at major shops. Was reportedly available at www.comptel.at, but now I see they have withdrawn the product from their list ... I am wondering what is this delay, afterall Nokia initially announced it for 3rd quarter 2005??
Br,
Deyan
danilos2k said:
I have the HS-13W and doesn t work :evil: I hope with the new ROM...
ciao, Danilo
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This one will make sense for universal , as taking a call after seeing who is calling takes ages & FM with stereo will be a great value add.
Cheers Taurus.
i have a hs-13w and it dose not work with unversal i'm thinking the 13w is a very bad product from nokia and it keeps crashing what a wast of £100
could anybod use this device with th PC to listen to music? I've the newest widcomm stack (5.0.1.1400) but IT's not working
kchris said:
could anybod use this device with th PC to listen to music? I've the newest widcomm stack (5.0.1.1400) but IT's not working
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Did you try it with Jetware bluetooth extensions?
tailazoom said:
kchris said:
could anybod use this device with th PC to listen to music? I've the newest widcomm stack (5.0.1.1400) but IT's not working
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Did you try it with Jetware bluetooth extensions?
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nope! what is it? I'll do a google search...
Read contacts from the Outlook phonebook (“ME” phonebook)
Read contacts from the SIM (“SM” phonebook)
Read the list of dialed calls from the call history (“DC” phonebook)
Read the list of received calls from the call history (“RC” phonebook)
Read the list of missed calls from the call history (“MC” phonebook)
Filter contacts from Outlook phonebook based on Outlook contact categories
Limit number of contacts returned from any phonebook
New! Activate Microsoft Voice Command voice dialing over Bluetooth
New! Use custom ringtones through your Bluetooth device
Show battery charge level
JETware Hands-free Extension for Windows Mobile phones
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Show signal strength
Show roaming status
Display carrier name
Read message headings from ActiveSync, SMS, or other mail provider
New message notification
Delete messages
Read SIM serial number (used to automatically select display language)
Read GSM phone IMEI number
Read phone default phone number
Read current time from phone
New! Improved Caller ID
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Version 1.11 free for 30 days
http://www.jetwaremobile.com/bthfx/JetBTHFExt-PPC-1.11.cab
I use it with sony hbh660 for caller name display
tailazoom said:
I use it with sony hbh660 for caller name display
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how did you config it to display caller name? I left everything as it is - and played with the callerID checkbox. nothing changed it displays only the number.
But my original question was that I cannot use this headset with my notebook (WinXP), is it possible? I've tried widcomm 5.x, 4.x drivers so far. my bluetooh hardware is CSR chip.
So does HS-12W work with JasJar?
Since I've installed the new official rom for my TP2 I cannot browse my contacts anymore via my car screen.
Normally when I connect my phone with my car via BT, the carkit syncs the contacts so I can browse them via my steering wheel.
Now it says that nothing has been registered...
But when I disable bt on my phone and enable it again... after a minute I can see my phonebook again on the carscreen...
What is changed on bt level for the new ROM???
Anyone?????
Anyone?????
Same here
I have had issues with a Volvo car kit since day 1. (And my TomTom, etc.) The position has got slightly worse since the WM6.5 update. HTC support originally said they were aware of Bluetooth problems (the TP2 has a different stack from preceeding machines). They are sort of backing away from that now - latest e-mail from HTC support says 'it is being looked into'. There are lots of similar issues being reported here and in other user fora.
i bought a car kit MP3 player for my car. I paired it with my TP2 and enabled the "BT Audio" and "BT Handsfree". Outgoing calls work fine with no problems at all. But during incoming calls there is a problem. If the incoming call is from someone saved in my contacts, the BT carkit does not ring. If its from an unknown number (not saved in my contacts), it works perfectly. I tried all the tweaks and hacks in this forum but nothing worked. Anymore ideas.
Kimbo,
when you update to the new ROM, your car may think it's a brand new phone... try deleting all previously paired phones from your car, then start the pairing process over again... your car should ask if you'd like to sync phonebooks again... that's what mine did when I re-paired after my 6.5 update.
Good luck - Mark
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i bought a car kit MP3 player for my car. I paired it with my TP2 and enabled the "BT Audio" and "BT Handsfree". Outgoing calls work fine with no problems at all. But during incoming calls there is a problem. If the incoming call is from someone saved in my contacts, the BT carkit does not ring. If its from an unknown number (not saved in my contacts), it works perfectly. I tried all the tweaks and hacks in this forum but nothing worked. Anymore ideas.
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Try the cab from this thread ------> Fix for playing ringtones over bluetooth headset.
It's meant so that the actual ringtone you have set will play on the car kit. I know my car kit used to have its own ring which was... boring to say the least. Now the various ring tones set to people on my phone play through the car kit.
I was wondering if Desire works OK with bluetooth hand-free devices. Someone who can tell us about it? I use it a lot on my car and it's a basic point for a mobile phone. I would really appreciate any feedback about this.
Thanks.
xmfreak said:
I was wondering if Desire works OK with bluetooth hand-free devices. Someone who can tell us about it? I use it a lot on my car and it's a basic point for a mobile phone. I would really appreciate any feedback about this.
Thanks.
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It has full A2DP which means you can control the device using the stereo itself, something the iphone cannot do
Audio/Video Remote Control Profile (AVRCP) is what works properly on the Desire, the iphone does not have this support
The Desire supports the following Bluetooth Profiles
A2DP,AVRCP, GAP, GOEP, HFP, HSP, PBAP, SPP, Service Discovery Application Profile
This is a full list of all the bluetooth layers
Advanced Audio Distribution Profile (A2DP)
Audio/Video Remote Control Profile (AVRCP)
Basic Imaging Profile (BIP)
Basic Printing Profile (BPP)
Cordless Telephony Profile (CTP)
Device ID Profile (DID)
Dial-up Networking Profile (DUN)
Fax Profile (FAX)
File Transfer Profile (FTP)
General Audio/Video Distribution Profile (GAVDP)
Generic Access Profile (GAP)
Generic Object Exchange Profile (GOEP)
Human Interface Device Profile (HID)
Intercom Profile (ICP)
Object Push Profile (OPP)
Personal Area Networking Profile (PAN)
Phone Book Access Profile (PBAP)
Serial Port Profile (SPP)
Service Discovery Application Profile (SDAP)
SIM Access Profile (SAP,SIM)
Synchronisation Profile (synch)
Video Distribution Profile (vdp)
Wireless Application Protocol Bearer (WAPB)
Works well with my BT Parrot CK3300 kit.
Ive got a Pioneer 7100BT winging its way to me, that has A2DP, im hoping it will work well with my Desire. Will post results when i get it and install it tomorrow.
Seems to work ok with my Standard Motorola headset.
Hoping to be able to est it with a bluetooth stereo soon.
ronnyuk said:
It has full A2DP which means you can control the device using the stereo itself, something the iphone cannot do
Audio/Video Remote Control Profile (AVRCP) is what works properly on the Desire, the iphone does not have this support
The Desire supports the following Bluetooth Profiles
A2DP,AVRCP, GAP, GOEP, HFP, HSP, PBAP, SPP, Service Discovery Application Profile
This is a full list of all the bluetooth layers
Advanced Audio Distribution Profile (A2DP)
Audio/Video Remote Control Profile (AVRCP)
Basic Imaging Profile (BIP)
Basic Printing Profile (BPP)
Cordless Telephony Profile (CTP)
Device ID Profile (DID)
Dial-up Networking Profile (DUN)
Fax Profile (FAX)
File Transfer Profile (FTP)
General Audio/Video Distribution Profile (GAVDP)
Generic Access Profile (GAP)
Generic Object Exchange Profile (GOEP)
Human Interface Device Profile (HID)
Intercom Profile (ICP)
Object Push Profile (OPP)
Personal Area Networking Profile (PAN)
Phone Book Access Profile (PBAP)
Serial Port Profile (SPP)
Service Discovery Application Profile (SDAP)
SIM Access Profile (SAP,SIM)
Synchronisation Profile (synch)
Video Distribution Profile (vdp)
Wireless Application Protocol Bearer (WAPB)
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Hope someone can figure this out:
I've had experience with 3 mobiles connecting to the built-in bluetooth in my car (HTC Tytn II, HTC Hero and Nokia e71) my concern is the following:
With the Nokia, when I get a call, I hear the phone ringtone through the car speakers. But with both HTCs I couldn't, I hear the default car ringtone, which is REALLY annoying.
The nokia e71 has the following bluetooth specs:
Bluetooth version 2.0 with Enhanced Data Rate
- Bluetooth profiles: DUN, OPP, FTP, HFP, GOEP, HSP, BIP, RSAP, GAVDP, AVRCP, A2DP
does anyone know if one of the these profiles is responsible for this? which one? I hope it would work with the Desire.
by the way, does making the phone visible before connecting make any difference? (just wondering)
Yet another HTC handset I can't get to work with my factory fit blue-tooth in my Skoda Superb (delete / install any VW Audi group car)
sh500 said:
Works well with my BT Parrot CK3300 kit.
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Hi, I have the CK3200 LS-COLOR and I can't get the contacts to load on the parrot, did you have any teething troubles?
Pumpkin Lantern said:
Hi, I have the CK3200 LS-COLOR and I can't get the contacts to load on the parrot, did you have any teething troubles?
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No problems at all. Just a standard pairing; it took less than a minute to auto sync the address book and I was ready to go.
I've never had problems with this kit; have sync'd numerous WinMo devices, Blackberrys (is that the plural?!) (still active for work) and now the Android device.
beaker656 said:
Yet another HTC handset I can't get to work with my factory fit blue-tooth in my Skoda Superb (delete / install any VW Audi group car)
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VAG cars need phones that use the RSAP Bluetooth profile, it's a bit of a wierd profile and stands for Remote Sim Access Profile, now looking this up for you I can only see some blackberry and Nokia phones that have this profile.
Bluetooth phone prep is a bit of a waste of time at the moment as the company who writes the software are not fully integrating there systems with everyone else, they are also not following standard A2DP procedures, I would imagine this is due to a partnership thing with people like Nokia and company cars etc.
Next time save the 600 quid or so you pay to have bluetooth prep and get a decent stereo like I have in my Audi, unless you got satnav too then you are stuffed
I have enclosed a link on VAG group phone prep and HTC phones, make sure your SIM card is of the new Variety
http://audiforum.us/multimedia/11189-audi-bluetooth-rsap-adapter-htc-touch-pro.html
I've had mixed results.
In my car the Desire works perfectly with the Parrot CK3300. I get full bluetooth contact sync, voice dialling works fine (the CK3300 does the voice recognition as the Desire doesn't do it over bluetooth) and calls come through loud and clear.
The wife has the lower CK3000 Evo. This doesn't have a display, so you send contacts to the kit over bluetooth and then record voice tags against them so that the kit can do voice dialling. Unfortunately the Desire refuses to send contacts to it and claims that the kit doesn't support sending contacts over bluetooth. This unfortunately means the wife can use the kit for incoming calls, but has no voice dialling for outgoing calls when she also upgrades to the Desire on Saturday when her contract's up.
Dae.
But what about voice dialling over Bluetooth with any of those?
The Android OS doesn't support voice dialling over bluetooth yet.
That's why I use the Parrot CK3300 - it does it on behalf of the phone. It basically syncs the phonebook to the kit. You then record the voice tags into the kit and associate them with a contact. You can then voice dial, which the kit will match up to the contact and dial using the phone.
Even when I've had phones that do support voice dialling I've always found the Parrot more effective.
Dae
ronnyuk said:
VAG cars need phones that use the RSAP Bluetooth profile, it's a bit of a wierd profile and stands for Remote Sim Access Profile, now looking this up for you I can only see some blackberry and Nokia phones that have this profile.
Bluetooth phone prep is a bit of a waste of time at the moment as the company who writes the software are not fully integrating there systems with everyone else, they are also not following standard A2DP procedures, I would imagine this is due to a partnership thing with people like Nokia and company cars etc.
Next time save the 600 quid or so you pay to have bluetooth prep and get a decent stereo like I have in my Audi, unless you got satnav too then you are stuffed
I have enclosed a link on VAG group phone prep and HTC phones, make sure your SIM card is of the new Variety
http://audiforum.us/multimedia/11189-audi-bluetooth-rsap-adapter-htc-touch-pro.html
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Thanks for the explanation. I happen to own a VAG car, A4 B8 with concert radio.
So SAP profile is different than RSAP profile? Could this be responsible for the phone ringtone not going through the car speakers? Because everything else works perfectly, it pairs and connects automatically, syncs contacts and make/receive calls, except for the ringtone issue! Which sounds like an ambulance siren.
What stereo system did you install?
daesimps said:
I've had mixed results.
In my car the Desire works perfectly with the Parrot CK3300. I get full bluetooth contact sync, voice dialling works fine (the CK3300 does the voice recognition as the Desire doesn't do it over bluetooth) and calls come through loud and clear.
The wife has the lower CK3000 Evo. This doesn't have a display, so you send contacts to the kit over bluetooth and then record voice tags against them so that the kit can do voice dialling. Unfortunately the Desire refuses to send contacts to it and claims that the kit doesn't support sending contacts over bluetooth. This unfortunately means the wife can use the kit for incoming calls, but has no voice dialling for outgoing calls when she also upgrades to the Desire on Saturday when her contract's up.
Dae.
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That's not good to read at all if I remember correctly I think I have on my car the same parrot model as your wife. My parrot is working perfect with Omnia and Xperia but I was afraid it wouldn't work with Desire and it seems I was right to be afraid. That's a huge problem for me.
Works perfectly with my Motorola H500 Bluetooth Headset.
xmfreak said:
That's not good to read at all if I remember correctly I think I have on my car the same parrot model as your wife. My parrot is working perfect with Omnia and Xperia but I was afraid it wouldn't work with Desire and it seems I was right to be afraid. That's a huge problem for me.
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It's a big deal for her too. I'm hoping that it'll be fixed in a future update. I'm glad we thought to check it before she upgraded to the Desire. She's going to hold off upgrading until this issue is resolved as she spends a lot of time in the car and it's not cheap to upgrade the handsfree kit. It's a deal breaker for her.
salahag said:
Thanks for the explanation. I happen to own a VAG car, A4 B8 with concert radio.
So SAP profile is different than RSAP profile? Could this be responsible for the phone ringtone not going through the car speakers? Because everything else works perfectly, it pairs and connects automatically, syncs contacts and make/receive calls, except for the ringtone issue! Which sounds like an ambulance siren.
What stereo system did you install?
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I installed a Blaupunkt MP68 but would not recommend it as it's pretty old now, the good thing was in the day it matched the Audi Red dials perfect and was German so I stuck with it.
All the Pioneer new series of BT headunits have Parrot BT built in so I would recommend one of those.
hmmm ... where does one go to get at slightly more advanced settings for BT? The Settings>Wireless & Networks options are very basic. I'm hoping to be able to tweak something to make it start working with my Audi A5. I suppose I'm asking is there anything like Sim Access Profile or Jetware out there?
Anyone any ideas? I searched Marketplace but nothing relevant came up.
I have found that my motorola headset keeps connecting and disconnecting like it is going out of range.
Thing is, it can be in my pocket about a foot from my headset and still disconnect and reconnect several times a minute.
Just wondering what bluetooth services people are seeing on there WP7 phones.
I have a HD7 on T-Mobile USA and it's only advertising the following to my Windows 7 computer:
A2DP
Headset Audio Gateway
Remotely Controllable Device
Thanks
a2dp as a service for the phone? not sure, but my friend bought the hd7 on my recommendation and he can't get audio for video files through a2dp and its killing him
hopefully wp7 has some cool tricks up its sleeve based on what you got there
I'm interested in four bluetooth profiles, if and how they are compatible and work.
- A2DP
- AVRCP
- Handsfree
- Bluetooth HID for Keyboard
any news mostly about the BT HID Keyboard?
I found this on Microsoft Support site:
Windows Phone 7 supports the following Bluetooth user profiles:
Advanced Audio Distribution Profile (A2DP 1.2)
Audio/Video Remote Control Profile (AVRCP 1.0)
Hands Free Profile (HFP 1.5)
Headset Profile (HSP 1.1)
Phone Book Access Profile (PBAP 1.0)
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2449475
This is the first device I have seen that supports SMS over bluetooth. If you have a Ford product with SYNC, you can use SMS over bluetooth. It also works with my Kenwood head unit. Basically, you can see incoming messages and, in the case of SYNC, send canned replies from the head unit. On my Kenwood, there is actually an on-screen keyboard to send any message you like. Cool stuff really!
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a2dp as a service for the phone? not sure, but my friend bought the hd7 on my recommendation and he can't get audio for video files through a2dp and its killing him
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same problem with my htc trophy. audio for video files only plays through the loud speaker and not through the bluetooth headset. I tried the blueant q1, jabra stone and jabra extreme with the same results
i have a Samsung Focus and i am having the same issue with no BT audio from videos. i tested the HTC Surround and LG Quantum at the ATT store with the same results. i am using a Jabra BT3030 which worked perfectly on my Microsoft KIN, audio streamed and play controls (Play/Pause/FF/RW) worked.
A2DP
Does anybody know if an A2DP video fix is coming up in the NoDo update? I'd say it's way more important than copy-paste, but regardless of importance, it is an important feature.
Any news?
noone knows outside of MS as far as i'm aware. we only know about copy/paste and app performance improvements because they told us. only time will tell if they actually fixed the issue.
hands free car kit and voice activation
When my LG is linked to the Bluetooth hands free car kit (Landrover) the voice activation doesn't work.
It opens but it doesn't "hear" anything
Since this is about the only time i actually need voice activation it's a bit annoying
Anyone have any ideas?
I totally agree about this bug. Who the F cares about copy and paste? How about turn-by-turn navigation for Bing Maps like was released last year for WM6.5 ?