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Hey,
I have Verizon and currently have a XV6800 (Titan). I have loved the phone, I got it the first week it came out and it has never let me down. I flashed it when the ROMs first came available, and I use all the features the phone has: keyboard, touchscreen, bluetooth, GPS, Wifi, etc...
My contract expires on the 11th of this month, and I've been due for a phone upgrade for quite some time now. I can get the TP2 for $99 with no other fees, because I work for Goodyear and we have a corporate thing set up with them.
My question is: should I get the TP2? It's obvious that there's a lot of custom ROMs out there and the hardware looks great. I just don't want to buy this phone and another one come out a month from now that's better. I understand that phones are always being released and they become outdated weeks after their purchase, but I don't want to miss out on anything cool.
-Randy
If you love your Titan that much, I don't know what's stopping you from upgrading to the TP2. It's the Titan on steroids with a gorgeous 800 X 480 screen. The keyboard is much improved as well (I had that keyboard with the grid layout on my Mogul, and I barely used it). In fact, the soft keyboard even much improved and usable. Battery life is also improved.
The only real drawback from the Titan is the lack of a DPad (VolDPad does a pretty good job of turning the volume rocker keys into a DPad).
BTW, video playback on the TP2 is outstanding (TP2 does full DVD resolutions). Totally kicks ass over the iPod.
There will always be something better/newer coming down the road. Could be a month... could be 6... couid be 12 months. I don't think we'll be getting really new in the short term.
The TP2 is far and away the best WM phones I ever handled. I ver glad I moved to it from my Kaiser. Heck I'm glad I skipped the original TouchPro and waited for the TP2.
The HD2/Leo looks nice but not being able to use a stylus and lack of a keyboard just might keep me away. I like writing hand written notes in my note pad.
The other thing too is that the Touch Pro 2 just came out, so it should be quite a while until it is surpassed (but 3 months ago if you were to ask to buy a Touch Pro, I'd easily tell you to wait b/c of the Touch Pro 2...that and Verizon nubbed up the TP1 with locking the GPS and removing RAM). I'd say go for it!
Jason
Thanks for the good info.
Does this phone have a dedicated graphics accelerator?
I went from an XV6800 (titan) to a Tilt2 on AT&T...
Network sucking issues aside, the TouchPro2 is a GREAT phone and an amazing upgrade the the Titan.
I stayed away from the original TouchPro/Fuze phones because I didnt think they were a massive upgrade, only more RAM which helped run TF3D, but no WinMo6.5, and not much in terms of real improvement.
I love WinMo6.5, I love the TF3D 2.1, and the ram and speed of the new Tilt2 is noticeably faster than a Titan.
Oh, and did I mention the AMAZING screen improvement?
Upgrade. You wont be disappointed.
I was on a mogul, which then i went to the touch pro, and now I'm on the touch pro 2. The single biggest upgrade from the mogul, to the touch pro was the ram. Running Opera Mobile on the mogul was hell. It's a great browser on the touch pro although i preferred the speed of opera mini. The other big improvement was the resolution/ lack of recession on the screen. Notice how it's rather difficult to hit the task manager button on the top right of the screen? That was fixed in the touch pro.
The biggest improvements from the touch pro to the touch pro 2, for me, have been the increased screen size and the keyboard. The Keyboard is ****ing amazing. No more of those little bubble keys that were present in the mogul/touch pro. I still haven't heard anyone talk about the change from bubble keys, to actual keys that depress when you press down on them. Sure the offsetness and size of the keys is great, but the fact that they are actual buttons that depress when pressed sold me. The speaker phone is much nicer as well.
Don't forget that you also will get all the latest TF3D stuff as well until a new dominant resolution comes out (or we simply can't run it because of lack of clock speed). I'm currently running TF3D 2.5 and it adds loads of improvements over TF3D 2.1. The only problem currently with 2.5 is that it's sluggish in some areas such as the landscape transitions on music/pictures.
All in all I'd say hell ****ing yes to a mogul-to-pro2 upgrade. There was a big enough difference to ditch the mogul for the touch pro alone. Ram was always the biggest pain on the mogul, and now I can't find myself ever running out of ram even while leaving everything open. I don't have to fight with the device to have it do what I want it to do.
See.... I get all these good reviews from you guys here, and you're all saying "Go for it!" Then, I go in the Verizon store too look at it, and they don't have it. I guess none of the stores have them on display, and I have to have it shipped. On top of that, the sales guy convinced me to come in Friday morning to see the new Motorola Droid when it's released. They're gonna be the same price.... so I don't know what to get now...
No Vzn stores ever got the new phone. Yea the Droid looks like it can be quite nice, but at my heart I'm still a WM user at least for now (Android is probably my 2nd bet, then maybe WebOS, and the OSX mobile isn't an option for me).
If you want to play with one, go to a T-Mo or AT&T Store. My sprint store near me (and its a big one, with a repair center and everything) still doesn't have TP2's yet either :-/
Jason
myrandex said:
No Vzn stores ever got the new phone. Yea the Droid looks like it can be quite nice, but at my heart I'm still a WM user at least for now (Android is probably my 2nd bet, then maybe WebOS, and the OSX mobile isn't an option for me).
If you want to play with one, go to a T-Mo or AT&T Store. My sprint store near me (and its a big one, with a repair center and everything) still doesn't have TP2's yet either :-/
Jason
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You know what... I'm ordering the TP2. Windows Mobile isn't perfect, but there's a huge community on here for it, and Android is new and still isn't quite perfect.
It's just like running any distro of linux on your computer. Sure, there's a lot of great versions out there, but none of them are perfect, and when something screws up, there's not always an easy fix.
One more thing about the TP2:
If you want to run emus, the offset keyboard gives you a reasonable rendition of a Dpad. Diagonals won't work, but it's more than adequate for JRPGs or any game that doesn't require twitch action.
I use W,A,S,D as a Dpad.
just wanted to update everyone who gave me their input - I got the TP2 and I'm in love with it. There's nothing I've tried to do thus far that I haven't been able to do. I've tried a few ROMs on it and I'm on the latest MightyROM right now ad it's great. Thanks again for the input guys!
Okay, I'm in the market for a new tablet. I have the Toshiba Excite 7.7 and I bought a Dell Venue 8 Pro running windows 8.1 during Christmas but I'm really tired of of display on both and well lets just say the amoled screen on the Excite ant that super....I really want to move up to a full HD display with some speed, etc. The Windows 8.1 experience has been ok if you can live without a lot of apps or want to repay for stuff you already paid for on the Playstore.
I've been looking around and nothing really hits every check box on my list but the 2 that I keep coming back to is the Tab Pro 8.4 and the LG G Pad 8.3. However, I've seen several reviews that talk about the supposed lag on the Tab Pro and I've heard the screen on the LG sucks. Anyway, I'm also disappointed that both only come in 16gb models.
Can anyone tell me if the Samsung Tab Pro 8.4 allow for App2SD storage or if root support for swapping out the internal and external storage is available? Also, is the lag as bad as advertised?
Thanks for any help that you can give me.
I haven't tried apps2sd, but the lag hasn't really bothered me yet. I have only noticed it while playing certain high power games. That said, I used Clean ROM on the Note 10.1, which had ridiculous lag and CleanRom fixed it. I am rooting and flashing Clean ROM for 8.4 today just to squeeze out some more efficiency
Funny, I owned the Toshiba as well (called AT270 here in Canada) and the G Pad 8.3 and now the Tab Pro.
Don't be misled by some members here waxing poetic about lag. There is zero lag within apps (games, video playback etc). web browsing is fast and fluid.
Where there can be occasional delays is switching between apps. Apparently some owners are upset because it takes a whole second to switch between applications. Personally I don't spend much time switching back and forth for hours on end between apps I'd rather just use the tablet.
With that in mind, there are ROM's that will provide a faster experience. I'm not overly thrilled with the magazine UX and don't actually use it. Some love it though.
The screen is vastly superior to the G Pad - I found the G Pad to be very dull and dim. Also battery life is excellent.
Agreed, but you may be reading too far into my comment. I have no lag on the 8.4 and love it, I am talking some hesitations here and there when I play a high end game, but nothing that bothers me or my ability to play and enjoy. Everyday tasks and such are fluid and quick.
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Okay, I'm in the market for a new tablet. I have the Toshiba Excite 7.7 and I bought a Dell Venue 8 Pro running windows 8.1 during Christmas but I'm really tired of of display on both and well lets just say the amoled screen on the Excite ant that super....I really want to move up to a full HD display with some speed, etc.
I've heard the screen on the LG sucks.
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If its a nice display you want, the 8.4 does not disappoint. The display is not just high resolution, but bright and the colors vibrant. I find myself using the tablet often at around 25% brightness, when I usually had my Note 8 at 40% or more.
Found this a couple days ago and its fantastic!
Looks great and scales perfectly to our notes!
You can make your own material like wallpaper with the pro version.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...+live&pcampaignid=APPU_JDCqVOu9MMXXoATY_4KQBw
You guys should try out " Fracta" too. It's the same flat design live wallpaper with a lot of customizations. (from the same producer)
Great find this wallpaper is dope! Thanks!
I tried it and liked it.
I bought the pro version but it makes my device force restart after a few seconds. Had to refund, looked cool though.
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Downloaded and loving it so far, the moving "3D" effect in the background is refreshing..Might buy pro if I use long enough. thanks.
This app / wallpaper is great. Pro version is worth it.
BAD ASS NOTE 4 + BAD ASS GEAR S
Very nice lp..bought the pro version of course, best part is the battery drain from it is minimal..highly recommended app!
These are Amazing
Bought Pro version, very unique and awesome.
Hi all,
I'm thinking about purchasing the Tab Pro 12.2, but just wondering what your thoughts are for my use.
I currently have a Nexus 7 (16gb) and an Acer C720 Chromebook. I also have a OnePlus One, so the Nexus 7 doesn't get much use over my phone so I'm looking to upgrade the tablet. Would the Tab Pro 12.2 be a suitable replacement for a Chromebook? Assuming I don't get an external keyboard, how easy is it to type on a tablet this large? Also, with the keyboard does a Chromebook still have any advantages to this? When web browsing, do websites default to mobile view or do they load normally which is what I would like with a screen this big.
I can get a new return for $320 which seems like a great deal. Also, any known issues I should know about. It seems like the Note series has more problems.
I'm not going to go thru and answer all those questions, but I will tell you. I have a chromebook. A note 4. A note 8.0, a galaxy tab 3 7.0 and multiple laptops. I thought for a while the same thing. Did I want a tablet that big? Or would it just lay on my dresser? And my tab 12.2 is now my go to. I love this thing. I'm stock rooted with just a few mods and a little theming. It runs smooth as butter. It's fast, lightweight. Great screen. I say for $320 grab it up. I paid $500 for mine new, but on sale. They retail for $649 for my 32gb
Thanks for answering. Do you use the 12.3 with a keyboard or do you find the on screen keyboard is sufficient enough to do most things. The tablet would basically be used for web surfing so keyboard input would be limited to web searching and forum posts.
It seems like it is probably time to retire my four year old Huawei Mate 10 Pro. It's still on Android 8 (because that is the last Android version thst can be rooted on this phone), and does still work pretty well. for me.
I've been planning to replace it with something from Oneplus for a while as I've been attracted to the pro-developer ethos they used to promote. I got the Huawei when samsung got weird but it never had much development activity to play around with.
But still... there are options. OP 9 Pro? Pixel 6 Pro? S21 Ultra? Or stay at the 6.4" sort of size and get the OP9 non-pro or Pixel 6 non-pro? I have never liked curved screens but I understand the 9 Pro curve is pretty minimal.
I get annoyed by little things not working right, so I have always had root on my phones. Not just for ad blocking but also things like disable-flag-secure so I can screenshot anything (it's my screen to shot!), freezing bloatware, etc.
Then again it seems like root is less and less popular, maybe it's not worth it any more.
Anyway, what do you guys think? Given what's available now would you still choose this phone?
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It seems like it is probably time to retire my four year old Huawei Mate 10 Pro. It's still on Android 8 (because that is the last Android version thst can be rooted on this phone), and does still work pretty well. for me.
I've been planning to replace it with something from Oneplus for a while as I've been attracted to the pro-developer ethos they used to promote. I got the Huawei when samsung got weird but it never had much development activity to play around with.
But still... there are options. OP 9 Pro? Pixel 6 Pro? S21 Ultra? Or stay at the 6.4" sort of size and get the OP9 non-pro or Pixel 6 non-pro? I have never liked curved screens but I understand the 9 Pro curve is pretty minimal.
I get annoyed by little things not working right, so I have always had root on my phones. Not just for ad blocking but also things like disable-flag-secure so I can screenshot anything (it's my screen to shot!), freezing bloatware, etc.
Then again it seems like root is less and less popular, maybe it's not worth it any more.
Anyway, what do you guys think? Given what's available now would you still choose this phone?
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I've been using OnePlus phones since OP3. They were my favourite Android makers. But their recent performance makes me say you should probably get a Pixel 6/Pro.
If the money is no issue go for Pro.
If you want to save some money go for Pixel 6 or Oneplus 9.
But the best option is to wait a little. You can get Oneplus 10/Pro or Xiaomi Mi12/Ultra, or Samsung Note 22. Or maybe Pixel will come down in price.
For adblocking use Private DNS = dns.adguard.com. You don'y need root for this.
The 9 Pro can still hold its own, but there are other devices on the horizon. Try one in a store if you can...
Thank you very much for the replies.
There's nowhere around here that I can try a OP 9 or 9 Pro, just online. I can try the Pixel anywhere though.
I think you are right, I'll wait and see what happens between now and March or so - better prices or better devices.
Thanks again.
Run away from Oneplus. This brand is dead.
Kinda agreed on some when they say OnePlus experience has changed for the worst. Them leaving Oxygen OS for Color OS is a nail in the coffin. I am also looking to the Pixel 6 Pro but I don't feel the Pixel measures up to the 9 Pro yet, for example charging time is one of them. Eventually I fear it'll be time to leave OP.
They say, either you die a hero or you live long enough to become evil.
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Kinda agreed on some when they say OnePlus experience has changed for the worst. Them leaving Oxygen OS for Color OS is a nail in the coffin. I am also looking to the Pixel 6 Pro but I don't feel the Pixel measures up to the 9 Pro yet, for example charging time is one of them. Eventually I fear it'll be time to leave OP.
They say, either you die a hero or you live long enough to become evil.
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Same for me, the charging is too slow on the Pixel 6 pro.
I will definitely sell my OP9 Pro before the 10 is released to lose the minimum amount of money.
Gone are the days when the OnePlus 1 came out with Cyanogen OS. Today we no longer have the sources and the impossibility of using Gcam without restrictions.
The development of the alternative scene will slowly die off.
Oh and daring to release a "stable" release of Android 12 in the state in which they dared to release it shows the non-seriousness and the total lack of respect of the brand.
It's a shame.
What the brand represented is really dead, today it is a Chinese brand like any other. Don't buy this trash.