[Q] Looking for some input on Pro 12.2 - Galaxy Tab Pro 12.2, 10.1, 8.4 Q&A, Help & Trouble

Hi all,
I'm thinking about purchasing the Tab Pro 12.2, but just wondering what your thoughts are for my use.
I currently have a Nexus 7 (16gb) and an Acer C720 Chromebook. I also have a OnePlus One, so the Nexus 7 doesn't get much use over my phone so I'm looking to upgrade the tablet. Would the Tab Pro 12.2 be a suitable replacement for a Chromebook? Assuming I don't get an external keyboard, how easy is it to type on a tablet this large? Also, with the keyboard does a Chromebook still have any advantages to this? When web browsing, do websites default to mobile view or do they load normally which is what I would like with a screen this big.
I can get a new return for $320 which seems like a great deal. Also, any known issues I should know about. It seems like the Note series has more problems.

I'm not going to go thru and answer all those questions, but I will tell you. I have a chromebook. A note 4. A note 8.0, a galaxy tab 3 7.0 and multiple laptops. I thought for a while the same thing. Did I want a tablet that big? Or would it just lay on my dresser? And my tab 12.2 is now my go to. I love this thing. I'm stock rooted with just a few mods and a little theming. It runs smooth as butter. It's fast, lightweight. Great screen. I say for $320 grab it up. I paid $500 for mine new, but on sale. They retail for $649 for my 32gb

Thanks for answering. Do you use the 12.3 with a keyboard or do you find the on screen keyboard is sufficient enough to do most things. The tablet would basically be used for web surfing so keyboard input would be limited to web searching and forum posts.

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Should I Get a Tab 3 10.1?

Hey guys, I currently have a MacBook Air 11, and I am looking for a tablet that I can use for when I don't wanna pull out my Macbook.
I am trying to spend less than $300. So I can get a refurbished Tab 3 10.1 for $225. However I can also get the first Galaxy Note 10.1(first edition) for $250.
I also can get an iPad 3rd gen for about $275.
So I am a bit conflicted. I just want something cheap that I can browse the internet on, play a few games, and use SmartGlass for my XboxOne
If look around get a nexus 10 for under 300 or nexus 7, if not just go with refurbished one
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ivcesar said:
If look around get a nexus 10 for under 300 or nexus 7, if not just go with refurbished one
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Would the Nexus 10 be better than the Galaxy Tab 3 10.1?
Depends what your users are going to be. Being you have a Mac, I say go with iPad (as much as I hate saying that). You already have apple asps and usernames that would make it easier for you.
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Depends what your users are going to be. Being you have a Mac, I say go with iPad (as much as I hate saying that). You already have apple asps and usernames that would make it easier for you.
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Well I do have a Macbook, and an iPhone 5. But I am trying to get out of the apple ecosystem.
I'm going to get an android phone when my upgrade is up.
Basically my uses are going to be: Using while I'm in bed, on the couch to mainly surf the web, email, play a few games here and there, and use for SmartGlass for my Xbox. If it's anything more than that, I'll just use my Macbook.
Shakenbake158 said:
Well I do have a Macbook, and an iPhone 5. But I am trying to get out of the apple ecosystem.
I'm going to get an android phone when my upgrade is up.
Basically my uses are going to be: Using while I'm in bed, on the couch to mainly surf the web, email, play a few games here and there, and use for SmartGlass for my Xbox. If it's anything more than that, I'll just use my Macbook.
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I think it is wise to switch as long as you've done your research first. It can be expensive switching ecosystems, but Android tends to be much cheaper that iOS from what I've witnessed at least. But that is only part of what makes Android wonderful. As for the Tab 3 10.1, right now, I'm struggling because I wanted it to have user switching. That's something supported by Jellybean, but alas, Samsung has omitted it from this build. So I've been searching everywhere for custom ROMs but it seems that no one is developing for it because it runs on Intel and people aren't used to that structure just yet. All I can do it root is and tweak things here and there, but not what I want it to, so my point of view is a little skewed toward dislike.
If you have the funds, I would recommend the Nexus 10 32GB. Unfortunately, Nexus devices don't have microSD expansion like the Galaxy devices, but it has all the features it should and it would be easy to find custom development for it once you get bored with the stock UI.
TBH I personally would NOT recommend you buying the tab 3 10.1. I'd rather buy a Nexus 7 2013 or a Nexus 10 or a LG Gpad 8.3.
thsi is because of the silly Intel processor within the tab and Android not really cooperating with it.
You'll be better off running an ARM processor.
Just my 2 cents. Hope you enjoy whatever tablet you buy.
And as much as I dislike Windows 8 it works well on tablets. So that is also a good choice IMO
Good luck !
Nitro
I have the tab 3 10.1 and it's a pretty good tablet. There's nothing so far about it that I don't like, BUT the resolution.
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I think it is wise to switch as long as you've done your research first. It can be expensive switching ecosystems, but Android tends to be much cheaper that iOS from what I've witnessed at least. But that is only part of what makes Android wonderful. As for the Tab 3 10.1, right now, I'm struggling because I wanted it to have user switching. That's something supported by Jellybean, but alas, Samsung has omitted it from this build. So I've been searching everywhere for custom ROMs but it seems that no one is developing for it because it runs on Intel and people aren't used to that structure just yet. All I can do it root is and tweak things here and there, but not what I want it to, so my point of view is a little skewed toward dislike.
If you have the funds, I would recommend the Nexus 10 32GB. Unfortunately, Nexus devices don't have microSD expansion like the Galaxy devices, but it has all the features it should and it would be easy to find custom development for it once you get bored with the stock UI.
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Well I don't need the user switching, I mean this is just going to be a device that I use when I am not using my Macbook for fun or leisure. It wont be something that I rely on.
How would you say the tegra 3 compares to the intel chip in the Galaxy Tab 3 10.1?
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TBH I personally would NOT recommend you buying the tab 3 10.1. I'd rather buy a Nexus 7 2013 or a Nexus 10 or a LG Gpad 8.3.
thsi is because of the silly Intel processor within the tab and Android not really cooperating with it.
You'll be better off running an ARM processor.
Just my 2 cents. Hope you enjoy whatever tablet you buy.
And as much as I dislike Windows 8 it works well on tablets. So that is also a good choice IMO
Good luck !
Nitro
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How much faster is the Nexus 7 2013 going to be than the Galaxy Tab 3 10.1? I am considering the Nexus 7 now possibly.
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I have the tab 3 10.1 and it's a pretty good tablet. There's nothing so far about it that I don't like, BUT the resolution.
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Do you think it would be a good first device to dive into android with?
Thank you all for replying.
I had a dell streak 7 and it had a poor following for development, but I used it enough to know my next tab would be a 10 inch.(7 inch Too Small) I just got this tab 3, and it is killer. It doesn't have any custom ROMS that are drastically different that stock, Still...it is running the newest version of Jelly Bean, and really doesn't need "upgrading" It is so snappy and fast, I am tickled to death with it. I love the stock OS, and I figure by the time I get bored with it Cyanogen Mod will be available for it. Of course my view is also skewed because I was struggling with a Dell Streak 7 (slowpoke) before I got my Tab 3. I also enjoy (watching) the developers forum for this device, it's very entertaining because they discover new things about this tablet every day it seems. That stuff is mostly over my head right now, but I hope to learn more, so I can contribute in the future. Good luck with your choice...I just love mine.
I just bought a Tab 3 10.1 from Amazon last week. I also purchased a leather case with Bluetooth keyboard to go with it. The order total was 311 for me and well worth it. I also have a Galaxy s4.
I think if you are looking to switch to the Android ecosystem I would recommend setting up a Google account now if you do not have one already. The one thing I like about Google and the android environment is the built in cloud environment.
I am on my 4th Android phone and first tablet and have never had to transfer or backup contacts, settings or files. I log into the new device it automatically downloads the settings wallpaper and apps I use. The contacts are stored in the Google account on Google servers. I have seen even the most experienced iDevice users try to mimic this seamless integration but fall short (though not impossible).
My only advice in order to make sure you never have to back up files and pictures (with caution) is to utilize Google drive if you do not already.
When I first moved to Android from Blackberry the selling point was that my contacts are stored in my Google account. Saved my life many times.
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Well guys, I went to BestBuy to check out the tablets.
I looked at the Galaxy Tab 3 8.0 and 10.1, Note 8.0 and 10.1 and the Nexus 7.
The two tabs seemed a bit sluggish when getting in and out of apps, and the load times in chrome were a little slower compared to the Notes.
The Note 10.1 is the perfect device for me, I absolutely loved it, but it's way out of my price range. But I also loved the Note 8.0.
The Nexus 7 seemed nice too, but it was in some demo mode so I couldn't actually open apps and such.
How does the Note 8.0 compare to the Nexus 7? At this point I think I like the Note 8.0 more, purely based on form factor.
Edit: How much faster is the Note 8.0 than the Tab 3?
Also how does the Note 8.0 compare to the original Note 10.1?
As far as I am concerned NO MORE SAMSUNG. Samsung just doesn't support…update the system on any of their tabs. I am selling my Galaxy 10.1 note today and getting something else. Sold my S4 and got a nexus 5 and am very happy.
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As far as I am concerned NO MORE SAMSUNG. Samsung just doesn't support…update the system on any of their tabs. I am selling my Galaxy 10.1 note today and getting something else. Sold my S4 and got a nexus 5 and am very happy.
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Well that is interesting.
If you had to recommend me a tablet, what would you recommend? Other than the Nexus 7.
I'd Recommend the LG Gpad 8.3 Google Play Edition as it has a slightly bigger screen.
I do NOT recommend Samsung devices as they have a CRAP LOAD of bloatware installed. Quite a few of those things run constantly using up RAM/CPU and eating battery life and in return, they give nothing.
I'd rather have an AOSP based ROM without the 'goodies' than a stock ROM with them.
I've owned 4 samsung devices so I think I can speak for them
This is my skightly skewed opinion. you should decide what you buy. We are just giving you advice
MY advice would be to purchase a google play edition device/ Nexus device as I find them the best in terms of everything
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I'd Recommend the LG Gpad 8.3 Google Play Edition as it has a slightly bigger screen.
I do NOT recommend Samsung devices as they have a CRAP LOAD of bloatware installed. Quite a few of those things run constantly using up RAM/CPU and eating battery life and in return, they give nothing.
I'd rather have an AOSP based ROM without the 'goodies' than a stock ROM with them.
I've owned 4 samsung devices so I think I can speak for them
This is my skightly skewed opinion. you should decide what you buy. We are just giving you advice
MY advice would be to purchase a google play edition device/ Nexus device as I find them the best in terms of everything
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Well maybe I should just get the Nexus 7.
I can't seem to find a Google Play G Pad in my price range :/
Did you get the Nexus 7? I was going to until I found that some of the 2013 model had screen/hardware and touchscreen issues. My wife has the gtab 2 10.1 which I put cm 4.3 and a custom overclocked kernal on and it runs smooth and quick. After using it a while I wanted something a bit smaller for myself and settled on the gtab 3 8.0. I like the size much better and the screen is plenty big and bright. It is quick and responsive with the stock rom. There is some development happening for it including an overclocked kernal and I am waiting patiently for a stable rom.
If you bought the Nexus, let us know how it is. I hope it's one of the good ones.

[Q] anyone have tried to extreme custom?

Is anyone have try to transfer spen feature into galaxy tab 3 8'0
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Is anyone have try to transfer spen feature into galaxy tab 3 8'0
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The S Pen APK's can be found easily enough, the problem is the screen doesn't support the pen. You can find a replacement screen for the Note 8 on eBay and then install it on your Tab 3. Personally I would just buy a EVGA Note 7 and call it day, you can probably sell your Tab 3 8 for the 200 dollar asking price of the EVGA. Your then getting a much, much, much faster tablet as the EVGA has the new Tegra 4, comes with a active digitizer pen which you can than install the S Pen software, an HDMI out port, so you don't have to fork over an additional 50 for the Samsung MHL HDMI adaptor and it has better build quality, actually one of toughest tablets I have seen. Then there is the best part, it's the closest to having a Nexus device without, well, buying a Nexus device. Pure Android, just a 350mb system OS footprint vs. the 2GB plus laggy mess that is TouchWiz. The updates are also released as fast as a Google Nexus device as this is a NVIDIA reference design, so no more waiting 8 months like with a Samsung.
Check it out here http://www.evga.com/articles/00790/
This is just suggestion if you want a fast, inexpensive tablet with pen support. If you decide to go with the first option let me know, I could help locate the parts and even help with the install by providing detailed instructions. I have a friend who works in the Tablet/Phone repair department for Interdiscount.ch here in Switzerland. Since the Samsung's have more problems than any other tablet manufacture that they sell he might actually have the parts your looking for on hand, his words, In fact when I bought a Tab 3 10.1 he called me an idiot and told me for every 3 sold, 1 is returned. I now know what he meant as I returned mine after only a few days and got the Nexus 10, I heard the Tab 3 8's are much better though. I will contact him on your behalf if your interested. I like visiting his workshop anyway, he always lets me steal a part or two for my Frankenstein projects.

[Q] Tab Pro 10.1, Tab S 8.4 or Ipad Air ?

Hi,
I'm going back and forth with this..
I have a budget around $400 to $450... and I basically want to use the table as a replacement of the laptop for basic stuff ( browsing, FB, youtube, videos, movies, email, etc). I like how IOS look right now, my mom has an ipad retina display and look and feel good, but my budget allow me to but the 16gb one... and isn't enought since I'm planning to copy movies on the table and watch them... beside ipads doesnt allow me to watch movies on divx, xvid, mkv, etc... I had to converted to mp4 and thats a hazzle...
I was thinking on buying the Tab Pro 10.1 because of the size, the screen definition and the battery life... but now that the Tab S is around the corner I don't know what to do... I don't care about the fingerprint... the Super Amoled is a nice touch (I have a galaxy S4) but the screen on the Pro look good enought for me... the selling point for me is the extra GB of ram...I don't know if is really work it to pay extra for that GB of ram (assuming that I can go up to $500 for the galaxy S 10.5) or paying the same as the Pro 10.1 ($400 on amazon) for the Galaxy S 8.4 and downgrade the size of the screen...
What do you guys say? Ipad air ($450), Pro 10.5 ( $400), S 8.4 ($400) or S10.5 ($500). Paying an extra $100 for 1GB of ram seem pricy to me if the feeling and performance is similar of the 2gb pro 10.1.... but I don't know if the cost/benefit is really good?
I bought a Tab Pro 10.1. It's not perfect, but I'm pretty happy. Obviously it's what I would do, since it's what I did. Just make sure Tha at you are comfortable doing a root... Of course that's the case with any android device.
Good luck!
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Well, you could save yourself some money by buying the iPad as a refurb straight from apple. It comes down to the ecosystem and os that you prefer. Is ios nice? Sure. But does it work for you? Do you struggle with the 2gb of ram in your phone today? If not then I wouldn't worry about the 2 vs 3gb of ram. If you're worried about ram, I'm pretty sure iPad air only has 1gb.
I've tried 2 different ipads and I keep coming back to android. I just started using a tab 8.4 today and it's smooth. If you keep a ton of apps open at once then it may get laggy, but I'd imagine the iPad would have the same issues. The iPad air has what seems limitless keyboards, cases...while there are significantly less for the tab pro. I think the s line is going to have Samsung accessories.
Don't forget the real file browser, micro sd, USB support, and vast selection of keyboards on androids. You can't really go wrong with any of them, all nice devices. Pick the he one that fits your budget and hits your biggest priorities.
I have a tab pro 8.4 and it is a really good tablet. I am considering getting the pro 10.5. I've also thought about an iPad air too, so I am in a similar situation. I do love the fact that the iPad has a plethora of keyboard case options. Supposedly with the S Series Samsung is going to get more Keyboard cases. Logitech has already announced one for the 10.5.
I am probably going to go with the pro 10.5. If you have a micro SD card it is really simple to expand the storage in which the iPad would not be able to do. If you already have purchased apps on your Android phone, it's much easier just to use an Android tablet then using an iPad and paying more money for apps you already have.
That's how I work things out in my head anyway.
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I am a long time user of apple , I think apple lost me after the 4S, the closed ecosystem is terrible in my view. So I switched to nexus 5 and never looked back. On tablet I bought the tab 8.4 , and put aside my iPad retina . I last week upgrade it to iOS 8 , and have to say I'm disappointed and not impressed . so I'm still loyal to my macbook on the PC side. But as far as tablet and phone no question in my mind that you get better value and better ecosystem in an android device. I also didn't root my tab, only put on it Google now lquncher and I love it , love the density and sharpness of the screen
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Jumping in the thread :
So I got 7 and 10.1 tablets in the past. They both have their strengths and weaknesses but I would like to have your opinions on the 8.4/10.1 Pro more specifically.
By default, I'd go with the 10.1 for the bigger screen and battery especially as it seems quite light, especially in comparison to my past 10.1 devices.
However, the 8.4 seems to have more ROM support and looks more powerful. Plus, the 8.4 format allows a better grip with one hand. But I'm afraid the battery won't hold as much as I want to.
So, here my questions :
- Is there any work done on CM11 for the 10.1 ?
- How comfortable is the 10.1 to hold ?
- Is the 8.4 really much more powerful and snappy ?
Thanks !
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Jumping in the thread :
So I got 7 and 10.1 tablets in the past. They both have their strengths and weaknesses but I would like to have your opinions on the 8.4/10.1 Pro more specifically.
By default, I'd go with the 10.1 for the bigger screen and battery especially as it seems quite light, especially in comparison to my past 10.1 devices.
However, the 8.4 seems to have more ROM support and looks more powerful. Plus, the 8.4 format allows a better grip with one hand. But I'm afraid the battery won't hold as much as I want to.
So, here my questions :
- Is there any work done on CM11 for the 10.1 ?
- How comfortable is the 10.1 to hold ?
- Is the 8.4 really much more powerful and snappy ?
Thanks !
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You need to be more specific on the 10.1... For the 10.1 LTE (sm-t525 aka picassolte) CM11 is coming along nicely but for the WiFi only 10.1 (sm-t520) there is no known work on it for CM11.
I was thinking about the Wifi version, sorry. I forgot that the LTE model is also Snapdragon and benefits, I guess, of the work done on the 8.4.
Acutally, I need my tablet for some productivity as well. Mostly, taking meeting notes on the go. Is the 8.4 screen big enough in landscape to do so ?

[Q] Tab S 8.4 or Tab PRO 8.4?

I currently have an original Nexus 7, which I love but it's getting increasingly laggy and the battery is awful. Though I'm loathe to lose the lovely stock android interface, I'm considering getting a galaxy tab (with a few tweaks it should be bearable!) as they seem to be some of the best on the market at the moment.
The Tab S and Tab Pro (8.4) are both available at John Lewis for £249 and £199 respectively for the wifi versions, and I can't make up my mind which to get.
Any views on which is a better buy? Is the S worth the extra £50? I mostly use my tablet for media - videos, light gaming, news, reading, web browsing, that sort of thing.
I have an T800, but the fight was the same..
I was in the same dilemma, and tried both (S and Pro version).. my answer was obviously, Tab S!
Much slimmer, way better screen, feel good in hands.
You do have some aosp roms for t700.
All I can say about the Tab S is the screen! Truly awesome in which is why I chose this over the iPad. There is a hitch of lag on stock touchwiz. But installing an aosp ROM makes everything better
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Tab S!
I recently upgraded from Nexus 7 and i loved it, but i wanted something a little bigger with more storage and after trying Samsung Amoled screens there was no question on what to get. Its thin, light, fast and this screen is just amazing for videos. Im typing this on my Tab S 8.4
The main differences between the pro and the s are the scren types (lcd vs Samoled), the ability to use a digitizer pen like the note uses, ram (2GB vs 3GB) and assorted minor differences.
If video is your main thing then the Tab S is amazing. If you like games better the best is the Nvidia Shield (stockish android too). The pro wil do anything the tab S does just with pen support and a screen that while it is nice is just not as nice as the S.
Dose tab pro has stylus support like note ? ... I don't think so
I also upgraded from a Nexus 7 2012 to a Tab S 8.4 (also got from John Lewis).
I was running Liquid Smooth Unofficial on the Nexus 7 and am now running Liquid Smooth on the Tab S. Took about an hour to root, install rom, and restore apps via TB. The Tab S is a nice step up from the Nexus 7. As others have said the main difference is the screen. I prefer the AMOLED screen and the deep blacks. Other people prefer the "truer" colour representation of the LCD screen. Whichever you choose I'm sure you'd be happy with it. Maybe there's a place with both tabs so you can try side by side?
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I currently have an original Nexus 7, which I love but it's getting increasingly laggy and the battery is awful. Though I'm loathe to lose the lovely stock android interface, I'm considering getting a galaxy tab (with a few tweaks it should be bearable!) as they seem to be some of the best on the market at the moment.
The Tab S and Tab Pro (8.4) are both available at John Lewis for £249 and £199 respectively for the wifi versions, and I can't make up my mind which to get.
Any views on which is a better buy? Is the S worth the extra £50? I mostly use my tablet for media - videos, light gaming, news, reading, web browsing, that sort of thing.
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Tab S is also first in line for OTAs (it has lollipop) and has some nice software enhancments
and xda has more support and roms for it.
Xperia Z3 Tab! Great Battery! I mean best battery for a tab! it lasts almost a week!
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All I can say about the Tab S is the screen! Truly awesome in which is why I chose this over the iPad. There is a hitch of lag on stock touchwiz. But installing an aosp ROM makes everything better
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What AOSP ROM did you use for your tablet?
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What AOSP ROM did you use for your tablet?
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Liquid smooth of course xD
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[Q] Buyer's advice suggestions 10.1

HI guys, thanks for reading my post. I just went back to college, and half of my textbooks are online e-books accessible by web browser, android app, or ipad app.
I can get this tablet for $269 on amazon. It's a year old, but the hardware, specifically the screen seems better than the new Samsung tablets, and the nexus 10 is too pricey for me. I'll only use it for textbooks, maybe productivity apps, and a little web browsing.
It seems like a good choice to me, do you guys have any recommendations before I pull the trigger on this purchase?
I personally don't own the 10.1 (have the 8.4). But if you ask me, the 10.1 is probably one of the better value tablets (if not the best) for that size right now.
The current Samsung "Galaxy Tab A" series is just the latest iteration of their "Galaxy Tab" series, which has always been Samsung's budget-conscious (read: low specs and cheap) line mean for the average consumer. As you have already determined, it doesn't hold up in performance against the "Tab Pro" line, even with the latter being a year old.
Samsung hasn't released any "premium" tablets for this year. While its rumored they will be soon announcing the "Tab S2" series; the price for the comparable model in this series is probably going to be around $499. Last years Tab Pro S 10.5 is still selling for $400 on Amazon.
Nexus 10 is def not worth the money. Its a year older than the Pro 10.1, with looks (huge bezels) and specs that show its age.
Nexus 9 is a fine looking device (and I do love HTC's hardware). But its slightly smaller (not sure if that would be ideal for reading textbooks) and over $400.
So honestly, if I was in your position, I'd probably go for the Tab Pro 10.1. The Tab Pro line performs very nicely, especially for the price. There may be some lag to TouchWiz. But you can always root and install CM12 to be rid of that lag!
We have a tab Pro 8.4 and a Note 10.1 (2014) in my house. While great when released, I think they are getting a bit long in the tooth. I agree, if you need a cheap tablet and can get one in the $200(8.4) to $275(10.1) range they are probably the best deal, but if looking for a long-term supported tablet,I would get a Nexus 9 over the Tab Pros. The screens on the tab pros are great. If you are only going to use it to read textbooks, then yes the Tab Pro 10 is a good option.
I have owned two nexus tablets and now the 8.4 Pro. I think the Samsung blows away the nexus tablets.
I had way more issues with the nexus ones. Love my Samsung.

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