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Just curious what people like other than Cyanogen. If CM (which seems to be the favorite) didn't exist, which would you choose?
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Well, yeah man, but I was hoping we could do it constructively. There's no need to go off on him. Even if you're right, you'd get more sympathy from people by skipping the name-calling. Sorry if you think I'm out of bounds. Just trying to be fair.
well, i loved 3rd sense untill i decided to play with themes... great froyo/sense rom
Well I enjoy any AOSP Roms, trying to stay away from sense Roms. I seen so much of it on my touch pro 2.
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Ok, I'm sorta indifferent as to which roms are my favorite, etc.
When I got my original myTouch, I was a religious Jesterdroid/Pandoradroid user [stock Android, themed, with some ported Cyan goodies as well as some MotoBlur enhancements and animations]. I was sorta afraid, if anything, to use anything different, since every time I flashed a different ROM, one of the phone's capabilities would be wonky [ie camera would be weird, soft keyboard would randomly FC out of nowhere, various apps weren't compatible, etc].
When I got my slide, the first thing I flashed was Cyanogenmod, and it was a totally new experience, but I missed the Stock Sense that the Slide came with. When 3rd Sense came out, I hopped onto that bandwagon and used that religiously until CM 6.1.1 came out, and everything worked. Everything.
I like the organization and flow of Sense a lot, because I like seeing a contact being connected through Peep [Twitter], Dialer [Phone], and Friendstream [Facebook] in one place, as opposed to many different places that stock Android has. HTC has it right in terms of their UI. Although it can get really bogged down at times, since a lot of things are running at once, I prefer Sense over Stock Android.
But at the moment, the only decent Sense rom [for the Slide] needs the Froyo kernel from T-Mo, so it still isn't working 100%. I know that once it drops [IF it drops] 3rdSense will come up to par with Cyanogenmod. But until then, I'm sticking with CM.
[and I'm currently using CM with Cyanoginger flashed over it]
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Well, yeah man, but I was hoping we could do it constructively. There's no need to go off on him. Even if you're right, you'd get more sympathy from people by skipping the name-calling. Sorry if you think I'm out of bounds. Just trying to be fair.
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What you said wasn't out of bounds at all.
I'm also currently on 3rd sense and would love to see another update of it. It's pretty close to perfection. MusicMan and etu_aty have also posted respectable roms. You don't see much Espresso stock in all its glory or a decked out Froyo. Actually, you don't see those at all. This is exactly what we need. I'm a fan of Cyanogen roms, but we don't need copycat roms (even if the source code is different than Cyanogen's) trying to be better when they offer the same thing as the last rom.
I love CR_Mod. Chiefz seemed to let it go for now and MusicMan came and did something with it. Cyanoginger is also a fresh take on the CM source with further advances to working properly. And really, all roms seem to be pretty fast so they're just about equal in speed. The fact that there's less bloatware makes it even smoother. These are exactly what we need.
This thread is asking for comments on roms you LIKE, other than CM, it is not a place to flame other members. Any more of this flaming/disrespecting others will result in infractions.
I couldn't care less if people like or dislike a particular rom or dev, I do however care that recently people have been using this forum to vent their anger at others. I'm not prepared to let this continue. If you have a problem with someone take it to PM or report their post. Let this serve as the one and only warning that I will start issuing infractions if this behaviour continues.
I should point out that this is a general warning to everyone, not just the people who have recently had posts deleted in other threads.
To answer the op, cyanogenmod is the rom of choice because people love customization. Plus people like solid roms. From experience, cm has more features and is more stable. Plus, if google ever releases a new version of android, cyanogen is usually the first to give it to us. I think i just have cyanogenmod loyalty since our G1s stopped getting OTAs after 1.6 and cyanogen kept us up-to-date. I've tried sense roms on the G1 one. They ran so slowwwwwwwwwww!
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I'm also a big fan of CM but unfortunately, it gave me a huge problem for some reason where I couldn't call one of my contacts. I was helped through it by T-Mo tech support for about a month and eventually I just decided it must be the ROM so I unrooted and everything's been fine. Clearly some combination of the root and my network connection didn't gel. So, sadly, I had to give up CM 6.0. I was hoping to inspire some good dialogue about the functionality of other ROMs to see what people think about the other things going on in the Slide ROM world.
Those of you who have said "other", let us know which ones and why!
Quick background about my flashing habits before we begin. My first Android phone was the G2, and I really liked it but wanted something with more power. About a year later I "upgraded" to the Sensation and immediately I was taken aback by how awful Sense is/was. It became my mission to get back to the pure Android feel and so I found the (original) HNS ROMs. Those were great, and that phone lives on today as my wifes primary device. Now I have a Gnex, and my "problem" is that it comes out of the box the way it took me a year+ to get my Sensation so there isnt much I want to change. Roughly 2 weeks ago I decided to flash CM9 to see what all the hype is about, and I can honestly say I dont see what the big deal is. Sure, I can change the governor and modify the LED for specific notifications but as far as I can tell thats about all you can do. Clearly there are other 'under the hood' modifications but none of them are immediately evident to me at least, and so I am about to flash JB.
Am I missing something huge that CM9 does that JB doesnt not? Is my analysis totally off? Let me know if JB is a mistake and if I should have stuck with CM9 in the comments below!
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Quick background about my flashing habits before we begin. My first Android phone was the G2, and I really liked it but wanted something with more power. About a year later I "upgraded" to the Sensation and immediately I was taken aback by how awful Sense is/was. It became my mission to get back to the pure Android feel and so I found the (original) HNS ROMs. Those were great, and that phone lives on today as my wifes primary device. Now I have a Gnex, and my "problem" is that it comes out of the box the way it took me a year+ to get my Sensation so there isnt much I want to change. Roughly 2 weeks ago I decided to flash CM9 to see what all the hype is about, and I can honestly say I dont see what the big deal is. Sure, I can change the governor and modify the LED for specific notifications but as far as I can tell thats about all you can do. Clearly there are other 'under the hood' modifications but none of them are immediately evident to me at least, and so I am about to flash JB.
Am I missing something huge that CM9 does that JB doesnt not? Is my analysis totally off? Let me know if JB is a mistake and if I should have stuck with CM9 in the comments below!
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It doesn't work for you, then ok. Nobody is going to convince you to use a specific ROM. Its YOUR preference and YOUR phone, so do as you please or better yet, make your own ROM the way you want. If you read you would know people like CM9 for its stability.
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Only change governor and led??? Are we talking about the same CM9?
CM9 have way more customization options than that.
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It doesn't work for you, then ok. Nobody is going to convince you to use a specific ROM. Its YOUR preference and YOUR phone, so do as you please or better yet, make your own ROM the way you want. If you read you would know people like CM9 for its stability.
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Dont get me wrong, I am not knocking CM9 in any way. However, I can tell you I had zero issue with the stock ICS build my phone came either. I am hoping JB proves to be just as stable.
lol a troll thread it is. nobody are allowed to blame CM. best android community ever! and now AOKP is also emerging. how dare you insult the only dev community that give free support for your device. you dont like it go away and keep it yourself. no need to tell it here. use stock rom and go play outside.
EDIT : ok... but still, whats your point of this thread? you want to try JB then go ahead. and since your stock ICS is working well just stick with it and wait for JB OTA. CM are already working on JB, its gonna be CM10. you dont follow news regularly i suppose... CM9 was started from scratch with no features for your info. and its still in RC! what do you expect....
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Only change governor and led??? Are we talking about the same CM9?
CM9 have way more customization options than that.
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Agreed, but how many of them are actually useful and not just "cool"? After reviewing every single feature of the ROM I couldnt find anything else I thought was worth while. If you have specific examples please let me know, as I spent hours making the decision to ditch CM9 and I hope I made the right choice.
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Agreed, but how many of them are actually useful and not just "cool"? After reviewing every single feature of the ROM I couldnt find anything else I thought was worth while. If you have specific examples please let me know, as I spent hours making the decision to ditch CM9 and I hope I made the right choice.
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Stock ICS > CM9?
You're delusional.
Jelly Bean would've been a better argument because of project butter.
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Stock ICS > CM9?
You're delusional.
Jelly Bean would've been a better argument because of project butter.
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Correct, I am not running JB and I am making the comparison between it and CM9. I personally found nothing unstable in stock ICS however.
lol mate you can always try any roms easily. this is nexus device. you dont have to think long to ditch a rom... and we have nandroid too..
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lol a troll thread it is. nobody are allowed to blame CM. best android community ever! and now AOKP is also emerging. how dare you insult the only dev community that give free support for your device. you dont like it go away and keep it yourself. no need to tell it here. use stock rom and go play outside.
EDIT : ok... but still, whats your point of this thread? you want to try JB then go ahead. and since your stock ICS is working well just stick with it and wait for JB OTA. CM are already working on JB, its gonna be CM10. you dont follow news regularly i suppose... CM9 was started from scratch with no features for your info. and its still in RC! what do you expect....
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Who is "insulting" CM team?? I have used their products for years and I think they do a great job. The purpose of this thread (if you bothered to read it) was to determine if I will be missing any functionality of CM9 by moving to JB. Assuming you are not currently using JB, then I respectfully ask you to move along and comment elsewhere. This thread is for people who have used both ROMs, and can comment about the differences. Please troll elsewhere LuffyPSP.
Not yet having a Nexus, I can see how CM9 wouldn't be such a big deal since you're coming from AOSP already. But for those of us running manufacturer-skinned-and-bloated devices, CM9 is really amazing. Lets us basically run Nexus software on better hardware.
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Not yet having a Nexus, I can see how CM9 wouldn't be such a big deal since you're coming from AOSP already. But for those of us running manufacturer-skinned-and-bloated devices, CM9 is really amazing. Lets us basically run Nexus software on better hardware.
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You nailed it right there, and that was the premise of my first post. Coming from a Sense "enhanced" device the AOSP experience was priceless and amazing. However once you are already running a pure Google experience (stock ICS ona Gnex) there is much less to improve upon. Hence my movement from CM9 to JB, and hence the thread you are now reading. Some people here need to relax and have a civil discussion (not you, some of the others)!
Was this thread really needed? Cm9 is a great rom remember what your parents should of told you if you have nothing good to say then do not say anything at all. So shhhh
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Was this thread really needed? Cm9 is a great rom remember what your parents should of told you if you have nothing good to say then do not say anything at all. So shhhh
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Wow, I guess we are back in kindergarten or something? I never once said a single negative thing about CM9. This thread is to discuss what features CM9 lacks that JB has, or the other way around. Do people even bother to read the thread before they chime in?
everybody is entitled to their opinion. And a ROM preference comes down to just that.
(without comparing features and what-not)
CM is living history in the world of Android development, specifically custom ROMs. I ran CM back on my original Droid when Koush first ported it (having to come up with ClockworkMod Recovery just to be able to do so, so that's one big thing that came about as an indirect result of CM). But Cyanogen was the first one to build a ROM from source, something that was a LOT harder back when he started. Many of Android's features were found in his ROMs first. While you may prefer this ROM or that, you should know that the CM team's impact on the android development community is only surpassed by Google itself (and it's by a narrow margin IMO). The CyanogenMod team is absolutely legendary and deserves more respect than that
as far as comparing CM9 to JB, it's apples to oranges. You won't see a CM JB ROM until source is released, that's how they work. And even still, it'll be a while before they get their ROM compiled, stable, and feature-packed
Came across this thread by accident... I think the users here was misled by the thread title... Anyway, i get what youre saying though about running aosp stock and cm9... You feel like youre not missing anything when running stock... Im not sure about stock ics but i think CM9 have alot of under the hood tweaks compare to stock... They may not be noticable to see but they are there hidden in codes ... May i say enhance in coding... Maybe wait for CM10, the wait will be worth it
Edit: apologize in advance if i misunderstood you
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Different folks different strokes. Glad you tried both and chose the one that works for you. Nothing wrong with stock.
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Different folks different strokes. Glad you tried both and chose the one that works for you. Nothing wrong with stock.
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The post that nailed it all.
I enjoy stock. Nothing wrong there. I enjoy CM9. Nothing wrong there. I don't enjoy AOKP. Nothing wrong there.
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You won't see a CM JB ROM until source is released, that's how they work. And even still, it'll be a while before they get their ROM compiled, stable, and feature-packed
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I remember when you would see CM before you would see the official ROM from Google... that was back during the G1 days... ah good times... Back then, he would release a basic rooted ROM then work out the extra features and bugs as he went along... but of course back then there was only one Android device, (and later only two or three) so it was easier.
The proliferation of different Android devices has really slowed down the CM development cycle. We are just now seeing a RC for CM9 and JB is already out in the wild.
CM has really influenced Android development as a whole... many features that come stock in Android today were first done by CM and then adopted into AOSP. I remember when Google Devs were asked at a press conference about specific features for a specific device... and they said "We won't do them, ask Cyanogen." Those guys have a lot of respect for Cyanogen, even way back when he worked on his own, and now he heads a huge team of Devs that rivals Google's in house team. (if not even larger)
There are a lot of little features that CM does that AOSP still doesn't and even others do not. Adjusting auto brightness settings are one I really like (especially on AMOLED screens) and also the color balance controls that help correct colors on AMOLED. There are other little tweaks and settings that you can do... and lots of code tweaks. Google must try to balance many aspects (performance/battery/multiple devices/differing hardware) with their code, but CM can focus on certain performance goals (in regards to all the mentioned aspects) and each version can be tweaked for its target device more than AOSP.
Basically CM is making AOSP the best it can be on the supported devices.
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I remember when you would see CM before you would see the official ROM from Google... that was back during the G1 days... ah good times... Back then, he would release a basic rooted ROM then work out the extra features and bugs as he went along... but of course back then there was only one Android device, (and later only two or three) so it was easier.
The proliferation of different Android devices has really slowed down the CM development cycle. We are just now seeing a RC for CM9 and JB is already out in the wild.
CM has really influenced Android development as a whole... many features that come stock in Android today were first done by CM and then adopted into AOSP. I remember when Google Devs were asked at a press conference about specific features for a specific device... and they said "We won't do them, ask Cyanogen." Those guys have a lot of respect for Cyanogen, even way back when he worked on his own, and now he heads a huge team of Devs that rivals Google's in house team. (if not even larger)
There are a lot of little features that CM does that AOSP still doesn't and even others do not. Adjusting auto brightness settings are one I really like (especially on AMOLED screens) and also the color balance controls that help correct colors on AMOLED. There are other little tweaks and settings that you can do... and lots of code tweaks. Google must try to balance many aspects (performance/battery/multiple devices/differing hardware) with their code, but CM can focus on certain performance goals (in regards to all the mentioned aspects) and each version can be tweaked for its target device more than AOSP.
Basically CM is making AOSP the best it can be on the supported devices.
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exactly. Hell, I think CM is the sole reason I even joined this forum when theming my D1 after Koush ported CM on another forum (I think alldroid or something like that initially). I remember the first experiments with JIT, and wow it was a ***** to get onto the D1 lol. I can't wait to see them play with JB when source drops. Cyanogen is your favorite developer's favorite developer
Don't get me wrong I love my S3. Left the iPhone 5 for it. However lately I've started to get bored with the S3. I tried CM10.1 and had some issues so I came back to TW. I've been thinking about Liquid smooth since I've heard good things. Anyone have any cool apps or games they can recommend to keep me busy?
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I don't know how you can ever get bored with any Android phone with a good community. First of all, there are SO many different ROMs to flash here (TW based / AOSP based / Hybrid all offering so many different things). Once you've flashed a ROM you like, you'll spend countless hours customizing every option in it. Then you can spend time finding the perfect kernel to match it (and undervolting / overclocking takes a while to get perfect). If that is not enough, you can get involved in kernel development, ROM development, or even theme development. The possibilities are really endless with Android. On the iCrap, you're literally locked in to one setup (hell, you need to jailbreak to even customize your homescreen). I can see how THAT would get boring quickly.
My personal favorite ROM is Slim Bean, everything just works and the features offered in it are amazing.
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I don't know how you can ever get bored with any Android phone with a good community. First of all, there are SO many different ROMs to flash here (TW based / AOSP based / Hybrid all offering so many different things). Once you've flashed a ROM you like, you'll spend countless hours customizing every option in it. Then you can spend time finding the perfect kernel to match it (and undervolting / overclocking takes a while to get perfect). If that is not enough, you can get involved in kernel development, ROM development, or even theme development. The possibilities are really endless with Android. On the iCrap, you're literally locked in to one setup (hell, you need to jailbreak to even customize your homescreen). I can see how THAT would get boring quickly.
My personal favorite ROM is Slim Bean, everything just works and the features offered in it are amazing.
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Why would I spend countless hours flashing roms and kernels. My thread has nothing to do with roms and kernels. I simply stated what I ran and what I'm planning on running. My question really is any good apps or games someone can recommend to keep me busy.
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Why would I spend countless hours flashing roms and kernels. My thread has nothing to do with roms and kernels. I simply stated what I ran and what I'm planning on running. My question really is any good apps or games someone can recommend to keep me busy.
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Maybe because your post was mostly about going with 10.1 and coming back? That's certainly what most would think. Apps and games, ask more specifically because nobody has any idea what you'd like. You won't like what I run so can't help. ROMs, maybe but apps, no.
When I get bored I look in Dev for ROM's or Kernels that might need testers LOL.
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When I get bored I look in Dev for ROM's or Kernels that might need testers LOL.
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When I got bored I started to look through the Q&A thread and started helping the "noobs" out. It's been forcing me to really know what's going on with the phone and to think like a troubleshooter. I usually will flash whatever ROM/Mod they're having trouble with and see if I can replicate it. I also try to write out instructions in a clear, legible way. It's actually been a bit of a challenge to disseminate the information into a clear, concise form. I know it's not technically an app or game I play that keeps the phone fresh, but this is what's keeping me from getting the itch for a new phone.
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When I got bored I started to look through the Q&A thread and started helping the "noobs" out. It's been forcing me to really know what's going on with the phone and to think like a troubleshooter. I usually will flash whatever ROM/Mod they're having trouble with and see if I can replicate it. I also try to write out instructions in a clear, legible way. It's actually been a bit of a challenge to disseminate the information into a clear, concise form. I know it's not technically an app or game I play that keeps the phone fresh, but this is what's keeping me from getting the itch for a new phone.
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Yeah I go through QnA and Gen all the time to help out. But that isn't because of boredom it because I want to and like to. It keeps me sharp for my real job which is tech support for a hospital.
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Yeah I go through QnA and Gen all the time to help out. But that isn't because of boredom it because I want to and like to. It keeps me sharp for my real job which is tech support for a hospital.
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My real job is structural engineering, so I don't get to do much IT troubleshooting (although sometimes my boss asks me how to do something in excel, huzzah!). So yeah, it's not 100% out of boredom, but it does keep the boredom at bay.
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My real job is structural engineering, so I don't get to do much IT troubleshooting (although sometimes my boss asks me how to do something in excel, huzzah!). So yeah, it's not 100% out of boredom, but it does keep the boredom at bay.
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I hear you. Me being bored is never a good thing LOL I usually get into trouble.
No back on topic LOL
Sorry OP for a little hi-jack action. The only games I really play is cribbage, galaxy, jewels stars and pac-man LOL not sure that list will help you.
@OP
Here: Whats your favorite game?
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Sometimes getting bored is a good thing.
I came from the old windows mobile world, where you had to constantly flash custom roms just to make the thing usable. Never got bored trying to keep it functional.
When I switched to Android suddenly the phone was reliable, fast and did what I wanted, but a little laggy at times. That kept me tweaking the phone with roms until they released ICS for my GS3. At that point the phone was solid, fast reliable, and did everything pretty well. So now I am really happy with stock MB1. Look at all the time I have for other things now!
You must have been going insane on the iPhone Lol. Sometimes I go to other phone threads to see what's going on, but if you post there and they know you have a S3 it turns into an argument, at least that was my experience with the Optimus G. Check out the themes and apps section too, there is stuff you can check out without changing your ROM there.
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I can't post this in the topic on Android Development because of not enough posts ( I should probably get on that....)
I been flashing new roms lately and been on a touchwiz kick. I see Quantum, and I am highly interested. I see that it says its cm based, but its in the same area as touchwiz roms. So is it still touchwiz?
Really I don't even know what the difference between Android Development and Original Android Development is. Like, what is the qualifier for each one?
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I can't post this in the topic on Android Development because of not enough posts ( I should probably get on that....)
I been flashing new roms lately and been on a touchwiz kick. I see Quantum, and I am highly interested. I see that it says its cm based, but its in the same area as touchwiz roms. So is it still touchwiz?
Really I don't even know what the difference between Android Development and Original Android Development is. Like, what is the qualifier for each one?
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It is definitely not a tw ROM, it's aosp. Touchwiz is not open source, aosp obviously is...
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It is definitely not a tw ROM, it's aosp. Touchwiz is not open source, aosp obviously is...
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Well thanks, like I said I didn't know the difference between Android Development Forums and Original Development Forum. I thought just Android dev forum was just modified touchwiz but I guess not.
Still think i'll take a look at it. Looks pretty great. Reason I went to touchwiz was because I was having some serious 3g-4g lte hand off issues on Slimbean. It would take sometimes 30-60 seconds to make the switch over, and I would lose all data and cell signal during that time.
I can't do this techy stuff so I will sub the work out to someone else. As the title says,I want to improve my Epic 4g Touch. Things I have had done are flashing the phone for Pageplus and getting SU/Root Explorer,as well as JB 4.1.2 GB27. Would like to spice it up a notch or two.What could I be doing with this phone to bring it to a new updated custom platform? I hear cyanogen being referred to often but I don't know.If I keep updating the phone it would be almost like getting a new phone each time without having to get one.Thanks
Well...now you should find some Roms that are suited towards the style you are looking for.
There are a lot of awesome developers in our forums. Too many to list....but you are correct in saying that the changing of custom Roms does give the feel of a new device.
Just take the time to make sure you read all the OP of whichever you decide to do.
This particular ROM is my current daily...very stable and very cust.
Good luck and enjoy the forum...its awesome here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread..php?p=42468136
I am liking Project X black and blue V2 myself.
Overall not a bad rom, with decent battery life if you load the comodose 3 mod.
I did have to switch out the dialer though. The included one was just not my thing.
Also the older gmail here is very nice to go with it.
This is just a bit too close to a Best ROM type thread. If you wish to improve your device, read, read, read, read again, learn, read some more, and then make a decision based on the information you've gathered.
We do not allow Best ROM threads because everyone has a differing experience and opinion, what works great for me may not for you...
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