Hey, can somebody tell me what the Smart Charging mode on the G3 stands for? i activated it but cant see any difference to the normal mode...
Ummm where is this smart charging menu located?
If you pressed the help button it tells you what it is.
It learns your charging behaviours based on time of day you charge and location to decide how quickly to charge the phone (slower charges are better for prolonging overall battery life).
If it thinks you are charging something at a time you are in a rush it will allow the use of "fast charging" which is not great for battery health but does provide a much quicker charge.
The idea is to get a good balance between charging quickly and prolonging overall battery life.
Lennyuk said:
If you pressed the help button it tells you what it is.
It learns your charging behaviours based on time of day you charge and location to decide how quickly to charge the phone (slower charges are better for prolonging overall battery life).
If it thinks you are charging something at a time you are in a rush it will allow the use of "fast charging" which is not great for battery health but does provide a much quicker charge.
The idea is to get a good balance between charging quickly and prolonging overall battery life.
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is there a way to controll it manually , for example fast charging at noon but normal charging at night ?
No it's designed just to learn your behaviour.
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robobear said:
Ummm where is this smart charging menu located?
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robobear said:
Ummm where is this smart charging menu located?
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Settings>Battery>"Smart Charging", you will see this screen. Battery Saver works for me but Smart Charging seems to disable itself the second I leave the screen. For example, if I turn it on, switch to messaging, then switch back to the battery screen, smart charging is again disabled. Does anyone know why this is?
I don`t seem to have that option
Smart charging not also found on my LG G3 D855
V10J-SEA-XX
This was the last update I got last week. We still don't have V10L, i wonder why.
smart charging is only present in CloudyG3 rom
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so i have a galaxy note 8 and i have had it for 6 months now and the battery life is just awful i can only usually get 1hour screen time and its already down to 60-70 percent.
i have done every single battery saving trick in the god damn books, i have battery saving on, brightness down, no haptic feedback sound, no motion controls, no sync, no auto updates, no gps, the only thing on my quick toggles are wifi and power saving and rotation on.
i have used juice defender
i have rooted and used titanium backup to debloat everything!
i am using greenify
i have tried everything but it does not seem to be improving
someone help me with this
gecko1997 said:
so i have a galaxy note 8 and i have had it for 6 months now and the battery life is just awful i can only usually get 1hour screen time and its already down to 60-70 percent.
i have done every single battery saving trick in the god damn books, i have battery saving on, brightness down, no haptic feedback sound, no motion controls, no sync, no auto updates, no gps, the only thing on my quick toggles are wifi and power saving and rotation on.
i have used juice defender
i have rooted and used titanium backup to debloat everything!
i am using greenify
i have tried everything but it does not seem to be improving
someone help me with this
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Maybe your charging problem
When charging , you must power off until 100%
And maybe your charger cable have problem .
And also you try this kernel
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2643096
And you try to undervolting recommend governor smartassh3 and schedule noop (sorry bad english)
gecko1997 said:
so i have a galaxy note 8 and i have had it for 6 months now and the battery life is just awful i can only usually get 1hour screen time and its already down to 60-70 percent.
i have done every single battery saving trick in the god damn books, i have battery saving on, brightness down, no haptic feedback sound, no motion controls, no sync, no auto updates, no gps, the only thing on my quick toggles are wifi and power saving and rotation on.
i have used juice defender
i have rooted and used titanium backup to debloat everything!
i am using greenify
i have tried everything but it does not seem to be improving
someone help me with this
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I'm new here since I bought the device yesterday, but this looks like a general issue...
This thread explains battery saving, some issues that might be related to your case are:
- If you misuse Greenify or any other "battery saving" apps they can actually lead to battery drain
- @gafri1: If "When charging , you must power off until 100%" means that every time you charge you must do it until 100% then it's false. Lithium ion batteries DO NOT have "memory", so charging to 100% or 70% doesn't make any difference. There's this thread that contains a brief explanation and this entire website dedicated to batteries.
As far as your specific problem is concerned, what do your battery stats say?
Better Battery Stats and Wakelock Detector can be used to collect more complete battery stats. They DO NOT SAVE BATTERY, they just tell you what might be draining it. The first step should be to check the built in battery stats in the Settings and then turn to other more sophisticated tools.
Charging issues
OK, had a few instances of odd charging that may be what is happening.
One OEM cable got pinched at the head of the micro USB. Shorting and bad connection. Battery shows charging, but never increasing charge.
Ended up melting the head and heating up the tablet.
Long aftermarket charging cable or extension cord. Some do not have proper pin out... will not charge or show charge. End up having little charge after disconnecting from charger.
I watched, a tablet go from 100% to 90% within 2 minutes and slowly decrease the rate until it leveled at 60%. A false reading of charge state until battery data caught up with battery's true charge.
WiFi only, or connected to cell network? This is a very important detail, since if its on the cell network, the reception in your area can have a HUGE effect on battery drain. In fact, when talking about smartphones, I'd say cell reception is the primary factor behind battery life.
In any case, the battery drain you mention (30-40% drain with 1 hour screen on time) is not awful, although not great either. Especially depending on what you are doing during that screen on time (gaming can be a huge drain, streaming video too, but usually less so). I get maybe 5 hours screen on time if I'm watching Netflix. That with no battery saving, WiFi only Note 8.
Also, make sure Smart Stay is turned off, as it seemed to me to be a big battery drain (and never really worked all that well for me, anyway).
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- If you misuse Greenify or any other "battery saving" apps they can actually lead to battery drain
- @gafri1: If "When charging , you must power off until 100%" means that every time you charge you must do it until 100% then it's false. .
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Agree with both these points. I've seen these "battery saver" types of apps (Juice Defender in particular) which have caused more issues than they solve. Some folks will swear by them. But don't take for granted they will increase your battery, and use them wisely. Don't "misuse" them as you say.
And charging while the phone is powered off is a myth that has been debunked long ago. Aside from the fact that the device will charge slightly faster (it won't be draining as its charging) this will have no effect on battery life.
Thx for information
exactly the same for me
I posted it here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=50558312
Sorry , Thx for the info , my note sometimes when charging until above 80% can go up until 100% in one minute what's about this problem anyone know ?
(Sorry bad English)
how many hours did you charge your note 8?
When i use new cable (custom cable ) the charge became faster , i only charge 2 hours 30 minutes
Become 100% , is it problem for my battery?
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When i use new cable (custom cable ) the charge became faster , i only charge 2 hours 30 minutes
Become 100% , is it problem for my battery?
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I have noticed some cables are faster than others. My bedroom charger will charge from dead in under 3 hours, the downstairs one will take 4 hours.
leave it on power saving mode always. It's the only way I get the battery to last on idle. in comparison the ipad air can sit days / weeks almost on idle.
Does battery lfie improve with CM? Can we put CM on 4.4 kitkat note 8?
My H815 had started reporting strange battery stats. I took it off charge an hour ago, but the battery stats (in Settings) say that the "Usage on battery" is 23 hours. The battery has also started charging more slowly, and discharging more quickly, recently. Does all of this suggest that the battery needs to be replaced?
Not necessarily. I would try a battery calibration and maybe even a factory reset because
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.. The battery has also started charging more slowly,..
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doesn't fit. Usually batteries on their way to dying discharge *and charge* faster.
Also the report that it's on charger while not, may indicate a software or even hardware problem.
How old?
About 1 year old. I've noticed that it is drawing a lower charging current when connected to the Quick Charge charger (less than 500mA). It used to draw 1000mA+. Also, my car charger no longer keeps it charged when Google Maps is running - i.e. the phone discharges more quickly than the charger charges it.
What's the best way of re-calibrating the battery?
Run it totally empty doing something intensive. When the phone shuts down, wait some time, then power it on again and try to use every last drop of energy. Maybe do this one more time. Just make sure there's nothing left.
(That's the manual way of discharging. There are also apps available that will turn everything on and discharge your battery very fast. But some say they are bad for the battery.)
Then charge to 100% preferably with the phone powered off.
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Run it totally empty doing something intensive. When the phone shuts down, wait some time, then power it on again and try to use every last drop of energy. Maybe do this one more time. Just make sure there's nothing left.
(That's the manual way of discharging. There are also apps available that will turn everything on and discharge your battery very fast. But some say they are bad for the battery.)
Then charge to 100% preferably with the phone powered off.
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You shouldn't do that!
www.batteryuniversity.com
Ciccius-IT said:
You shouldn't do that!
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We're talking battery calibration here, not everyday practice. Instead of playing smart by providing vague links, be smart by actually reading.
If you want to learn more check http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/battery_calibration and many other..
EPa said:
We're talking battery calibration here, not everyday practice. Instead of playing smart by providing vague links, be smart by actually reading.
If you want to learn more check http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/battery_calibration and many other..
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Thanks. So discharging it to the "Low Battery" warning (15%) then recharging to 100% is the correct thing to do?
Well I would say not everything is fixed and absolute.
For example, you also shouldn't charge to 100%.
But, battery and chip manufacturers incorporate this into their designs, so 0% and 100% are not really that, in order to protect the battery, and give the people an easy life. For example, instead of suggesting everyone to remember and stop charging at around 90%, they make the chips report 100% when they're about 90%. The same is also true for 0%.
I would say discharge fully. The low battery warning is a warning for you to not be left without energy when you might need it, not to protect the battery. The internal chips handle that. 0% is not really 0%.
Edit: in the link I provided in my previous post, check figure 3. Among others, you can see in the data provided by a battery "Absolute state of charge" and "Relative state of charge". That's what I'm talking about. We users see the (protective) relative state of charge, not the absolute.
EPa said:
We're talking battery calibration here, not everyday practice. Instead of playing smart by providing vague links, be smart by actually reading.
If you want to learn more check http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/battery_calibration and many other..
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It's difficult for me to write all in English, sorry. Don't wanna to be vague, linked that site only because I know and read it and I like very much what they say.
I think to discharge battery to the lowest possible isn't a good work, even with the relative % indication. For a simple calibration of a li-ion battery I think it's ok to discharge till phone power off then recharge full. Calibration has nothing to do with battery cycle, it's only software problem. The phone has to calibrate % on true capacity of a wear battery.
Discharge, power on, discharge again, power on, discharge even the last drop of energy isn't a good practice in my honest opinion.
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Ciccius-IT said:
For a simple calibration of a li-ion battery I think it's ok to discharge till phone power off then recharge full.
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So we agree. Because we are talking about calibration here.
Every day usage is a totally different story. A li-ion battery should not be left to go below ~40%. Also, slow charging is better than fast (you can imagine what this means in relation to Quick Charge and related technologies. Don't use them if you have the time)
But the question was about calibrating.
Yes, we agree, but before you're talking about discharging every single drop of energy from battery to calibrating it. It's that what I mention not to do, it's a bad practice for li-ion battery, even with security chip, and all that for a simple calibration issue. Just my two cents ✌?
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I thought that once the moto mod is connected to the phone, that it will not be charging it until I tell it to. Is there a way to let the phone run out of battery first and then turn on the moto mod to charge the phone?
You can pause it in the notification, but if you start charging from, idk, 15% the motomod it's not even gonna charge the phone to 80%, at most, 50%
Manually in setting you can enable and disable charging. But you need to enable it manually, otherwise it will keep 80% or fill to 100% depends on setting you choose
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You can pause it in the notification, but if you start charging from, idk, 15% the motomod it's not even gonna charge the phone to 80%, at most, 50%
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To add on to what Victor said (Although to my knowledge the weakest battery pack gives an extra ~60% charge), using your phone's battery first and then the motomod is honestly inefficient anyways, as using "efficiency mode" apparently gives you an extra ~20% more total battery life. Along with that, these mods arent battery banks, they aren't made you give you a quick emergency charge and be tossed away to charge back up, they are made to be attached to your phone for extended periods of time and maintain your battery power.
Anyone knows if is any way to disable fast charge?
Dont like fast charge since is worst for battery life.
For Battery Life is fine. This model dont have any fast charge or something similar. The charger included its fine and cant damage the battery.
Do not mix stanrdard fast charging (=being able to suck more than 1A from the charger) and QuickCharge (Qualcomm charging technology, involving e.g temporarily increase of charging voltage well above 5V and charging current well above 2A). A2 Lite is able to fast charge, just use Ampere or similar software and you see how much current it takes.
To the OP: I read that some custom kernels have this possibility, but no idea if any of few customs roms for our device has this capability. By using external software you can limit battery charge to e.g 80%, which would help a bit, or simply use one of old chargers, which could push around 500-700 mA max.
I'm using this magisk module: https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/module-magic-charging-switch-cs-v2017-9-t3668427
Basically it helps to extend battery life by limiting the maximum charge, charging the phone slowly on certain range of battery level or when the battery reaches certain temperature.
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Anyone knows if is any way to disable fast charge?
Dont like fast charge since is worst for battery life.
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I wondered about this too. If you're not in a hurry (say, charging overnight) then maybe the slower charge will ensure optimum battery life.
I find that using a long (2M), cheap charging cable prevents fast charge!
That's understandable because the electrical resistance will be higher than a short/quality cable, so limits the charging current.
anzhaki said:
I'm using this magisk module: https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/module-magic-charging-switch-cs-v2017-9-t3668427
Basically it helps to extend battery life by limiting the maximum charge, charging the phone slowly on certain range of battery level or when the battery reaches certain temperature.
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I use the root app " battery charge limit", i personally limit the battery charge to 80%.
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I use the root app " battery charge limit", i personally limit the battery charge to 80%.
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Accubaterry app does that without root. (i think)
About fastcharging with 5v2a i think that isn't so bad for battery. (battery on my phone doesnt even really warm up)
There were some problems, on my previous phone with quickcharge. (and phone was really hot after charging)
And battery was already almost 2years old. And with using quickcharger it got really bad battery in few months.
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Accubaterry app does that without root. (i think)
About fastcharging with 5v2a i think that isn't so bad for battery. (battery on my phone doesnt even really warm up)
There were some problems, on my previous phone with quickcharge. (and phone was really hot after charging)
And battery was already almost 2years old. And with using quickcharger it got really bad battery in few months.
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Accubattery only can warning you about the % charge, but still charging, to stop the charge needs root, since the control file is on system partition.
Hello everybody,
with the new EMUI10.1 also the "Smart Charge" feature arrived. Well, here at my P30 as a switch at least. I am really not sure, if this is working at all. I have it activated since Monday and am using the original cable and charger. The charging curve, as can be seen in the battery settings is not displaying any slower or even paused charging speed, the curve goes straight up until 100% ~1h after plugging in.
What is your experience here, can you guys see any difference, have any proof this is working?
Many thanks.
Hello @beggar23,
I have been using my P30 all day, trying the Automate flow you posted with RoteDose, and I enabled the Smart Charge feature since I got the EMUI 10.1 update .
I see a difference in charging behavior. Using the original charger and cable, AOD flow enabled, the battery charges way slower than it does when Smart Charge is disabled. Smart Charge disabled~50 minutes vs. Smart Charge enabled~3 hours (or more).
I think it works great, I would not want the battery to wear out so fast, so I'll just keep it enabled.
Off-Topic: BTW, thanks for the AOD Automate flow. I love it.
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Hello @beggar23,
I have been using my P30 all day, trying the Automate flow you posted with RoteDose, and I enabled the Smart Charge feature since I got the EMUI 10.1 update .
I see a difference in charging behavior. Using the original charger and cable, AOD flow enabled, the battery charges way slower than it does when Smart Charge is disabled. Smart Charge disabled~50 minutes vs. Smart Charge enabled~3 hours (or more).
I think it works great, I would not want the battery to wear out so fast, so I'll just keep it enabled.
Off-Topic: BTW, thanks for the AOD Automate flow. I love it.
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Thank you!
I also have 10.1 but do not experience any AOD flow induced difference with Smart Charge on or off. Tbh, I doubt, that Smart Charge is working at all here. So my judgement might not be that useful. :cyclops: