Hey guys,
i'm trying to get my HTC S-Off.
after reading a bit online, i found the following guide:
http://www.android.gs/gain-s-off-on-htc-one-m8/
but according to some reading and user asking, i understand that the "free" methods no longer work, except on some versions of the device?
Is the only way to make my device S-OFF is using the paid ways (like sunshine ones, that cost 25$)
Here are the details for my phone:
* Not locked to any network, bought as "sim free" (not verizon \ at&t etc..)
* Hardware version: 0005 ( if that matters )
* HTC Theme Version - 6.0
* ROM: Android Revolution HD 10.2, version: 2.22.401.4
* Android Version: 4.4.3
* HTC DSK API Level: 6.25
* Baseband: 1.16.2133156.UA15G_20.18m.4096.07L
* Kernel: 3.4.0-ge224610, [email protected] #1, SMP PREEMPT
This is all the information that i think is relevant, as shows in my device's ABOUT.
Also, the phone is rooted, and have custom recovery (TWRP)
Any help will be appreciated
Thanks
adiel91 said:
Hey guys,
i'm trying to get my HTC S-Off.
after reading a bit online, i found the following guide:
http://www.android.gs/gain-s-off-on-htc-one-m8/
but according to some reading and user asking, i understand that the "free" methods no longer work, except on some versions of the device?
Is the only way to make my device S-OFF is using the paid ways (like sunshine ones, that cost 25$)
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If firewater won't work .. yes SunShine and thus paying 25$ is the only method. But SunShine is not going to work on ARHD. You will need to perform a stock restore before trying it.
HTCNerdYoda said:
If firewater won't work .. yes SunShine and thus paying 25$ is the only method. But SunShine is not going to work on ARHD. You will need to perform a stock restore before trying it.
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Thank you for the quick reply.
If you could help with the following i'll be thankful:
1. I'm not familiar with all of the terms you mentioned.
Firewater - is the method for S-OFF described in the guide i posted?
ARHD - What's that? my HTC is ARHD, for that matter?
2. Assuming i have full NAND backup made with the recovery,
if i try the method described in the guide i posted will fail , could my HTC get bricked?
and if so - will the NAND backup will be enough to restore it to working condition OR undo the changes (if neccessary in case of failure, even without bricking the phone)
3. If i'll have to go back to STOCK, 1st of all - i'll need to completely un-root my device and restore the original bootloader?
2nd - if i'll go back top STOCK, use sunshine method to s-off my device, and then restore my custom rom and settings
using the NAND backup - is it OK? or it will cause trouble?
Thanks again!
adiel91 said:
Thank you for the quick reply.
If you could help with the following i'll be thankful:
1. I'm not familiar with all of the terms you mentioned.
Firewater - is the method for S-OFF described in the guide i posted?
ARHD - What's that? my HTC is ARHD, for that matter?
2. Assuming i have full NAND backup made with the recovery,
if i try the method described in the guide i posted will fail , could my HTC get bricked?
and if so - will the NAND backup will be enough to restore it to working condition OR undo the changes (if neccessary in case of failure, even without bricking the phone)
3. If i'll have to go back to STOCK, 1st of all - i'll need to completely un-root my device and restore the original bootloader?
2nd - if i'll go back top STOCK, use sunshine method to s-off my device, and then restore my custom rom and settings
using the NAND backup - is it OK? or it will cause trouble?
Thanks again!
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yea firewater is the method by the same devs of the sunshine apk but it doesnt work for all devices and all variants.
ARHD is Android Revolution HD ..he meant the Rom..you Need to use either MaximusHD Rom or complete stock Rom/stock backup otherwise it wouldnt even work if it will be possible for your device
also your bootloader is completely stock..you just Need stock recovery and stock kernel...ok recovery is not that important but kernel and Rom really Need to be stock or atleast maximusHD Rom.
and no restoring wont cause Troubles...but for working backup use philz recovery ! twrp often doesnt work for now...i mean the backup and restore.
One-M8-Master said:
yea firewater is the method by the same devs of the sunshine apk but it doesnt work for all devices and all variants.
ARHD is Android Revolution HD ..he meant the Rom..you Need to use either MaximusHD Rom or complete stock Rom/stock backup otherwise it wouldnt even work if it will be possible for your device
also your bootloader is completely stock..you just Need stock recovery and stock kernel...ok recovery is not that important but kernel and Rom really Need to be stock or atleast maximusHD Rom.
and no restoring wont cause Troubles...but for working backup use philz recovery ! twrp often doesnt work for now...i mean the backup and restore.
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Thanks friend
last question ( i'm trying )
can i try firewater method on my current rom, or does is require STOCK as well?
:good:
One-M8-Master said:
yea firewater is the method by the same devs of the sunshine apk but it doesnt work for all devices and all variants.
ARHD is Android Revolution HD ..he meant the Rom..you Need to use either MaximusHD Rom or complete stock Rom/stock backup otherwise it wouldnt even work if it will be possible for your device
also your bootloader is completely stock..you just Need stock recovery and stock kernel...ok recovery is not that important but kernel and Rom really Need to be stock or atleast maximusHD Rom.
and no restoring wont cause Troubles...but for working backup use philz recovery ! twrp often doesnt work for now...i mean the backup and restore.
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Thanks!
Didn't think about further explaining what ARHD meant, as he has it installed
adiel91 said:
last question ( i'm trying )
can i try firewater method on my current rom, or does is require STOCK as well?
:good:
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You can have a try, but performing S-Off most of the time works best on near stock ROMs as all the methods firewater as well as SunShine are designed to work on a stock ROM and not on the customized ROMs.
Anyway e.g. SunShine and MaximusHD work as far as I know. So give it a try and if not just revert to stock to try again.
adiel91 said:
Thanks friend
last question ( i'm trying )
can i try firewater method on my current rom, or does is require STOCK as well?
:good:
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HTCNerdYoda said:
Thanks!
Didn't think about further explaining what ARHD meant, as he has it installed
You can have a try, but performing S-Off most of the time works best on near stock ROMs as all the methods firewater as well as SunShine are designed to work on a stock ROM and not on the customized ROMs.
Anyway e.g. SunShine and MaximusHD work as far as I know. So give it a try and if not just revert to stock to try again.
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firewater DOES NOT work with arhd or any other Rom...firewater really Needs stock Rom and kernel as there will be things loading which are often disabled in custom roms etc
i'm happy to report that after consulting with sunshine dev team
and trying using sunshine method on ARHD, it did work and i'm S-OFF.
Thank you all for your answers and help!!
appreciate it
cheers
Good if you still have any questions ask me but via pm
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Hi everyone ,
Here is my problem, I bought a french htc one m8 with orange carrier, I unlocked my bootloader and installed phil's touch recovery and then I flashed skydragon rom 4.4.2 with htc sense 6 but now I would like to flash the last skydragon lollipop but here's my problem , I can't go s-off with this rom so I can't update my firmware or change my CID, so I can't install lollipop rom without wifi's problem. I would like to know how can I do to update my firmware to 4.4.4 cause I tried to s-off with firewater but doesn't work too.
Anyone have a solution would be a god to me ^^
Thanks in advance.
blop135 said:
Hi everyone ,
Here is my problem, I bought a french htc one m8 with orange carrier, I unlocked my bootloader and installed phil's touch recovery and then I flashed skydragon rom 4.4.2 with htc sense 6 but now I would like to flash the last skydragon lollipop but here's my problem , I can't go s-off with this rom so I can't update my firmware or change my CID, so I can't install lollipop rom without wifi's problem. I would like to know how can I do to update my firmware to 4.4.4 cause I tried to s-off with firewater but doesn't work too.
Anyone have a solution would be a god to me ^^
Thanks in advance.
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Firewater doesn't work anymore. HTC patched the exploit.
You'll have to use SunShine S-Off. It costs $25, but is guaranteed to work or you don't pay.
Having S-Off is totally worth $25 IMO.
Here's a link to their website.
xunholyx said:
Firewater doesn't work anymore. HTC patched the exploit.
You'll have to use SunShine S-Off. It costs $25, but is guaranteed to work or you don't pay.
Having S-Off is totally worth $25 IMO.
Here's a link to their website.
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I tried but it didn't work , it told me I've got to be on a stock rom :/
blop135 said:
I tried but it didn't work , it told me I've got to be on a stock rom :/
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Go to this thread. It has a collection of stock backups you can falsh to get back your stock ROM.
It also has a collection of stock recoveries to flash with ADB if you need that.
All the instructions are there.
xunholyx said:
Go to this thread. It has a collection of stock backups you can falsh to get back your stock ROM.
It also has a collection of stock recoveries to flash with ADB if you need that.
All the instructions are there.
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OK thanks a lot , the number before every rom is my firmware right? So I've got to download the one with my number on it ?
blop135 said:
OK thanks a lot , the number before every rom is my firmware right? So I've got to download the one with my number on it ?
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Firmware is something separate. That link will get you back to stock ROM. Then use Sunshine to s off. After that, you can update your firmware.
xunholyx said:
Firmware is something separate. That link will get you back to stock ROM. Then use Sunshine to s off. After that, you can update your firmware.
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Ok I'll try this but I need to find the good stock recovery ? Sorry for my noob questions ^^
blop135 said:
Ok I'll try this but I need to find the good stock recovery ? Sorry for my noob questions ^^
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The stock recoveries or in that link too. I'm not sure if you need them for sunshine though. Try with custom recovery, if that doesn't work, get a stock recovery.
Or get both ROM and recovery stock, then reflash a custom recovery and ROM.
If you get both to stock, you shouldn't have any issues.
xunholyx said:
Firewater doesn't work anymore. HTC patched the exploit.
You'll have to use SunShine S-Off. It costs $25, but is guaranteed to work or you don't pay.
Having S-Off is totally worth $25 IMO.
Here's a link to their website.
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How did HTC patch the exploit?
xunholyx said:
The stock recoveries or in that link too. I'm not sure if you need them for sunshine though. Try with custom recovery, if that doesn't work, get a stock recovery.
Or get both ROM and recovery stock, then reflash a custom recovery and ROM.
If you get both to stock, you shouldn't have any issues.
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OK I'll try this, Thanks you very much
passion4tech said:
How did HTC patch the exploit?
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Firmware updates. If you have one fresh out of the box, Firewater would probably still work. And still does for some.
xunholyx said:
The stock recoveries or in that link too. I'm not sure if you need them for sunshine though. Try with custom recovery, if that doesn't work, get a stock recovery.
Or get both ROM and recovery stock, then reflash a custom recovery and ROM.
If you get both to stock, you shouldn't have any issues.
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Ok so now when I try to flash the offical carrier rom with phil's touch recovery , there is an android on the back with a red triangle and it says installation aborted
blop135 said:
Ok so now when I try to flash the offical carrier rom with phil's touch recovery , there is an android on the back with a red triangle and it says installation aborted
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First, I misunderstood your earlier question. Yes the number in front of the backups are for firmware.
To help you more, I'll need some information. Hook up your phone to your computer and start ADB. Then issue these commands:
adb reboot fastboot (wait till your phone boots into fastboot)
fastboot getvar all
Then post what the readout says here, but edit out your serial number (serialno) and IMEI for your own safety.
Then I'll be able to give you a little more guidance.
xunholyx said:
First, I misunderstood your earlier question. Yes the number in front of the backups are for firmware.
To help you more, I'll need some information. Hook up your phone to your computer and start ADB. Then issue these commands:
adb reboot fastboot (wait till your phone boots into fastboot)
fastboot getvar all
Then post what the readout says here, but edit out your serial number (serialno) and IMEI for your own safety.
Then I'll be able to give you a little more guidance.
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Here it is
http://imageshack.com/a/img537/3226/6mu7TC.png
blop135 said:
Here it is
http://imageshack.com/a/img537/3226/6mu7TC.png
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Your CID is ORANG202 and your firmware is 1.54.73.5, so you will need the backup that corresponds with that.
The backup available was made with TWRP recovery. So you'll need that. (In my opinion, TWRP is a better recovery, less issues)
You could go to their website to download it and get instructions on how to flash it, but there is a much easier way.
Go to the Play Store and install an app called TWRP Manager. Hit the three line menu thingy on the top left, and pick "Install TWRP".
After that go back to the stock backup thread and flash the backup that matches your CID and firmware.
xunholyx said:
Your CID is ORANG202 and your firmware is 1.54.73.5, so you will need the backup that corresponds with that.
The backup available was made with TWRP recovery. So you'll need that. (In my opinion, TWRP is a better recovery, less issues)
You could go to their website to download it and get instructions on how to flash it, but there is a much easier way.
Go to the Play Store and install an app called TWRP Manager. Hit the three line menu thingy on the top left, and pick "Install TWRP".
After that go back to the stock backup thread and flash the backup that matches your CID and firmware.
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Ok thanks I'll try that
xunholyx said:
Your CID is ORANG202 and your firmware is 1.54.73.5, so you will need the backup that corresponds with that.
The backup available was made with TWRP recovery. So you'll need that. (In my opinion, TWRP is a better recovery, less issues)
You could go to their website to download it and get instructions on how to flash it, but there is a much easier way.
Go to the Play Store and install an app called TWRP Manager. Hit the three line menu thingy on the top left, and pick "Install TWRP".
After that go back to the stock backup thread and flash the backup that matches your CID and firmware.
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Okay so I could finally go s-off by flashing an 4.4.3 android revolution , can you tell me how I should do to flash this rom with wi-fi working ? :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2706391
You would be the best
Thanks a lot
xunholyx said:
Firmware updates. If you have one fresh out of the box, Firewater would probably still work. And still does for some.
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What firmware version works best with firewater? My firmware is 1.54.651.10
blop135 said:
Okay so I could finally go s-off by flashing an 4.4.3 android revolution , can you tell me how I should do to flash this rom with wi-fi working ? :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2706391
You would be the best
Thanks a lot
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My friend has made a comprehensive guide on firmware and firmware flashing, complete with downloads. Make sure to read the whole opening post so you understand everything. It looks like it might be hard because of his full explanation of the whole process, but it's actually very easy. And very informative.
xunholyx said:
My friend has made a comprehensive guide on firmware and firmware flashing, complete with downloads. Make sure to read the whole opening post so you understand everything. It looks like it might be hard because of his full explanation of the whole process, but it's actually very easy. And very informative.
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Ok but I'm french so I'm not that good in english but I will try anyway Thanks
so here it goes:
i bought the asia tw m8 (HTC__621) just when it got out and unlocked BL,rooted,installed custom roms
so eventually i cant update to newer android versions through ota.
my hboot is 3.16 and i tried s-off
firewater doestnt work on asia tw and sunshine developer wont help me since i live in a county that can`t use paypal
so dear devs. anyone......pleasee help me out
i dont know what to do....
specially when android L is coming to our devices.
thx in advance
Collection of stock backus Go there download the nandroid backup for your device(1.54.709.12) and the stock recovery also on post 1.
Restore the nandroid backup for your device with the custom recovery(It was made with TWRP so use TWRP) flash back the stock recovery and just follow all the OTA updates to get to the latest 4.4.4 and you'll also be ready for 5.0 when it launches(whenever).
You literally did no searching for your problem at all.
armin0131 said:
so here it goes:
i bought the asia tw m8 (HTC__621) just when it got out and unlocked BL,rooted,installed custom roms
so eventually i cant update to newer android versions through ota.
my hboot is 3.16 and i tried s-off
firewater doestnt work on asia tw and sunshine developer wont help me since i live in a county that can`t use paypal
so dear devs. anyone......pleasee help me out
i dont know what to do....
specially when android L is coming to our devices.
thx in advance
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I am sure firewater should work on your device. I just S-OFF and gained superCID. Your device is basically a GSM phone. The only advantage of doing OTA updates are that you will be getting updates a tad faster. The disadvantage is it might brick your phone with wrong firmware/device ID. My advice would be to try to get S-OFF again. If your phone is rooted and bootloader unlocked go ahead and flash a custom recovery such as TWRP. If you do no know how to flash your recovery you can download an app called Flashify and it will flash TWRP for you via google play store app.
Once you get TWRP recovery you can reboot into recovery and simply do a system restart. It will ask if you want to install superSU. Make sure you have superSU installed. follow the instructions from here http://firewater-soff.com/instructions/ I recommend being on a stock sense ROM. Make sure you have debugging enabled via developer option and enabling unknown devices. Once you push firewater to your phone and allow superSU app to grant permission you SHOULD get s-OFF.
Once you get s-OFF you can change your phone version ID to superCID via bootloader+adb command "fastboot oem writecid 1111111" After that you can just flash over any firmware you want. I say wait for devs to get official gpe 5.0 dumps and it'll be way better than an OTA rom.
IF your phone ever gets into a bootloop or frozen reboot it via holding down volume up+down+power. The phone will reboot.
vang2k said:
I am sure firewater should work on your device. I just S-OFF and gained superCID. Your device is basically a GSM phone. The only advantage of doing OTA updates are that you will be getting updates a tad faster. The disadvantage is it might brick your phone with wrong firmware/device ID. My advice would be to try to get S-OFF again. If your phone is rooted and bootloader unlocked go ahead and flash a custom recovery such as TWRP. If you do no know how to flash your recovery you can download an app called Flashify and it will flash TWRP for you via google play store app.
Once you get TWRP recovery you can reboot into recovery and simply do a system restart. It will ask if you want to install superSU. Make sure you have superSU installed. follow the instructions from here http://firewater-soff.com/instructions/ I recommend being on a stock sense ROM. Make sure you have debugging enabled via developer option and enabling unknown devices. Once you push firewater to your phone and allow superSU app to grant permission you SHOULD get s-OFF.
Once you get s-OFF you can change your phone version ID to superCID via bootloader+adb command "fastboot oem writecid 1111111" After that you can just flash over any firmware you want. I say wait for devs to get official gpe 5.0 dumps and it'll be way better than an OTA rom.
IF your phone ever gets into a bootloop or frozen reboot it via holding down volume up+down+power. The phone will reboot.
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People should stop telling people that firewater should work for sure on certain devices ! It's never a guarantee !!!
It's a try and see ! Perform firewater on the stock rom and stock recovery, if it's not working you definitely need sunshine
I recommend being on a stock sense ROM. Make sure you have debugging enabled via developer option and enabling unknown devices. Once you push firewater to your phone and allow superSU app to grant permission you SHOULD get s-OFF.
Once you get s-OFF you can change your phone version ID to superCID via bootloader+adb command "fastboot oem writecid 1111111" After that you can just flash over any firmware you want. I say wait for devs to get official gpe 5.0 dumps and it'll be way better than an OTA rom.
IF your phone ever gets into a bootloop or frozen reboot it via holding down volume up+down+power. The phone will reboot.[/QUOTE]
well the problem is I am way ahead of you I have installed TWRP installed countless roms I'm not a noob I know my way around phones...
and because of my cid and modelid I'm not able to use fire water.
if you can, suggest a way that I can update my frimwire i've tried a lot of things
its not my first rodeo.
helpful suggestions please.thanks in advance
Thanks for saying this stuffbut they are not helping.
well the problem is I am way ahead of you I have installed TWRP installed countless roms I'm not a noob I know my way around phones...
and because of my cid and modelid I'm not able to use fire water.
if you can, suggest a way that I can update my frimwire i've tried a lot of things
its not my first rodeo.
helpful suggestions please.thanks in advance
for the last time:it is the Asia Taiwan(2.5 ghz ver.) a lot of other users tried firewater
and so did I and I can't use it because I'm living in a country that is restricted to use paypal
Mr Hofs said:
People should stop telling people that firewater should work for sure on certain devices ! It's never a guarantee !!!
It's a try and see ! Perform firewater on the stock rom and stock recovery, if it's not working you definitely need sunshine
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Mr hofs is there any way to use sunshine without paying through paypal?for example paying through google play gift card!
BerndM14 said:
Collection of stock backus Go there download the nandroid backup for your device(1.54.709.12) and the stock recovery also on post 1.
Restore the nandroid backup for your device with the custom recovery(It was made with TWRP so use TWRP) flash back the stock recovery and just follow all the OTA updates to get to the latest 4.4.4 and you'll also be ready for 5.0 when it launches(whenever).
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If you are unable to use sushine to s-off due to Paypal, just return to stock ROM and recovery to get the OTAs as stated above.
Mr Hofs said:
People should stop telling people that firewater should work for sure on certain devices ! It's never a guarantee !!!
It's a try and see ! Perform firewater on the stock rom and stock recovery, if it's not working you definitely need sunshine
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redpoint73 said:
If you are unable to use sushine to s-off due to Paypal, just return to stock ROM and recovery to get the OTAs as stated above.
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Wouldn't integrity of the files in the system and data partitions be a problem?!
Cause when you unlock some apps which are in data partition get deleted.
and when the rom is rooted and im guessing the nandroid backup is rooted...
the system partition is changed.
please correct me if i'm wrong
thx
Is there any place i can get the stock untouched rom for my cid number?
i went to htc-dev website's download section and saw a few things about asia tw downloads.but couldnt understand it or how it's used.I would appreciate it if you went there and take a look for yourself
thx
armin0131 said:
Wouldn't integrity of the files in the system and data partitions be a problem?!
Cause when you unlock some apps which are in data partition get deleted.
and when the rom is rooted and im guessing the nandroid backup is rooted...
the system partition is changed.
please correct me if i'm wrong
thx
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Are you talking about system changes preventing OTA updates? If so, being rooted has nothing to do with it, it won't prevent an OTA from installing. It'll remove root from the device in which case you'll have to re-root(if you want) but it won't prevent the OTA from installing.
Besides as far as I know, unless stated differently, the backups in the thread are all unrooted.
armin0131 said:
Is there any place i can get the stock untouched rom for my cid number?
i went to htc-dev website's download section and saw a few things about asia tw downloads.but couldnt understand it or how it's used.I would appreciate it if you went there and take a look for yourself
thx
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Guess you should have made a backup of your device before you messed around. That way you would have known for a fact it was "untouched" .
Just download the backup provided in the link, flash a stock recovery and do the OTA's. You can even go through the small effort ahead of time and "unroot" it just in case it was "rooted" which I doubt it will be.
Go here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2701376
And read the first AND second post with care !
armin0131 said:
Mr hofs is there any way to use sunshine without paying through paypal?for example paying through google play gift card!
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There is. You can send them US Amazon Gift Card in order to get the code for Sunshine.
Poslano z mojega HTC One_M8 z uporabo Tapatalk
Mr Hofs said:
Go here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2701376
And read the first AND second post with care !
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I wonder... :angel:
Mr Hofs said:
Go here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2701376
And read the first AND second post with care !
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Ok what i wanna know is that are the deleted apps for example flashlight
Restored in the 1.54.709.12 backup? So no MD5 problem when i wanna OTA?
armin0131 said:
Wouldn't integrity of the files in the system and data partitions be a problem?!
Cause when you unlock some apps which are in data partition get deleted.
and when the rom is rooted and im guessing the nandroid backup is rooted...
the system partition is changed.
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Root alone does not change system partition. Its only changes to system files you do after root that will prevent OTA.
And in theory, the stock backups in Mr Hofs collection should be made without root, I believe. Root is not needed to make a nandroid.
As far as I have seen, the couple HTC apps that are "deleted" upon bootloader unlock do not affect OTA. There are lots of folks here with unlocked bootloaders that were able to return to stock ROM and recovery and OTA.
redpoint73 said:
Root alone does not change system partition. Its only changes to system files you do after root that will prevent OTA.
And in theory, the stock backups in Mr Hofs collection should be made without root, I believe. Root is not needed to make a nandroid.
As far as I have seen, the couple HTC apps that are "deleted" upon bootloader unlock do not affect OTA. There are lots of folks here with unlocked bootloaders that were able to return to stock ROM and recovery and OTA.
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There are some already rooted.
XSL-FO said:
There are some already rooted.
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One for a know fact as its stated in the download link. And it's very usable for official ota as its 100% complete. And if it bothers people it's rooted they have to read the second post too as it contains a flashable zip to delete root access. But that's not being said here because people probably don't read enough very well !
And indeed root is not needed for a nandroid backup. Only a custom recovery is enough to create one.
ooof that made me sound interesting !
Cheers.
Mr Hofs said:
One for a know fact as its stated in the download link. And it's very usable for official ota as its 100% complete. And if it bothers people it's rooted they have to read the second post too as it contains a flashable zip to delete root access. But that's not being said here because people probably don't read enough very well !
Cheers.
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Well, la-di-da
armin0131 said:
Ok what i wanna know is that are the deleted apps for example flashlight
Restored in the 1.54.709.12 backup? So no MD5 problem when i wanna OTA?
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Ahh ... you're asking about my backup that I uploaded.
No ... nothing is deleted from backup 1.54.709.12, everything is there like the flashlight, calculator & etc. No root, no busybox... simply clean stock.
In fact, once you restore the backup with full wipe of your current ROM, you'll get the setup wizard just like when you setup the phone for the first time.
Yes i read threads over going back to stock but my question is a little bit different
I got a dutch T-mobile branded M8 after i did my first root i made a a backup from my phone with TWRP.
i can't get S-OFF, so my phone is still S-ON!
Now i got the problem that my HBOOT isn't updated since, this is giving me problems with newer versions of TWRP and so for CM12.
My thoughts were:
- flash my backup to my phone
- ? 1
- ? 2
- update it regulary via ota updates (guess my phone is updated to the latest hboot)
- Root my phone
- install any new rom
Frist my questons are for the questionmarks in my steps:
? 1: Should i un-root and relock my bootloader?
? 2: Anythinge else i missed?
Thanks in advance
samstar said:
i can't get S-OFF, so my phone is still S-ON!
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You can't s-off, since sunshine says your phone is not supported? Or you don't want to pay for sunshine?
samstar said:
Frist my questons are for the questionmarks in my steps:
? 1: Should i un-root and relock my bootloader?
? 2: Anythinge else i missed?
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1) No need to unroot or relock bootloader. But no system files can be modified in order to OTA. If you made the nandroid right after installing TWRP and root, without any other mods, you should be OK.
2) You also need to flash stock recovery to install OTA
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You can't s-off, since sunshine says your phone is not supported? Or you don't want to pay for sunshine?
1) No need to unroot or relock bootloader. But no system files can be modified in order to OTA. If you made the nandroid right after installing TWRP and root, without any other mods, you should be OK.
2) You also need to flash stock recovery to install OTA
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Don't want to pay for sunshine, don't see the importance, just want to **** around with custom roms, never has been a great difference for me.
but the stock recovery, how do i get it? i donloaded one from a thread but just want to be sure it's alright
samstar said:
Don't want to pay for sunshine, don't see the importance, just want to **** around with custom roms, never has been a great difference for me.
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If you want s-off, pay for it. Otherwise, don't. And I agree that if the goal is merely to update firmware, you don't need s-off in your case. As for the importance, s-off allows a number of things, including being able to flash radios, modified hboots, and unlock SIM. These may not be relevant or needed by you.
But to say you can't s-off is not correct. You just don't want to. When asking for help, its best to provide the most complete and correct information.
samstar said:
but the stock recovery, how do i get it? i donloaded one from a thread but just want to be sure it's alright
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Download the stock recovery corresponding to your stock software number from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2701376
hello
i have s-on unlocked bootloader and recovery twrp
i am trying to fectroy reste ... and phone still on stuck htc logo
twrp saye no os install
i thing i removed evreything !
what can i do ?
can any one help me please ?!
nassimxmax said:
hello
i have s-on unlocked bootloader and recovery twrp
i am trying to fectroy reste ... and phone still on stuck htc logo
twrp saye no os install
i thing i removed evreything !
what can i do ?
can any one help me please ?!
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I would guess you formatted internal storage? Yea, that wipes everything.
Download a ROM onto your PC and transfer it to your extSD. You said you can get into recovery, so I'll skip that step.
Put the SD card into your phone, and flash the ROM.
That should do it.
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I would guess you formatted internal storage? Yea, that wipes everything.
Download a ROM onto your PC and transfer it to your extSD. You said you can get into recovery, so I'll skip that step.
Put the SD card into your phone, and flash the ROM.
That should do it.
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i will try to restore stock Nandroid backup
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2701376
nassimxmax said:
i will try to restore stock Nandroid backup
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2701376
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You could do that as well, but if you are just going to flash a custom ROM after, you could skip that step and just flash the ROM.
If you are planning on going back to stock, then you are taking the correct path.
xunholyx said:
You could do that as well, but if you are just going to flash a custom ROM after, you could skip that step and just flash the ROM.
If you are planning on going back to stock, then you are taking the correct path.
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my problem is i want to convert my htc to gpe but i can't s-off with firewater (error: only position independent executables (PIE) are supported.) i thing because i have lolipop
so i will back to kitkat and try to s-off
thank you bro :good:
nassimxmax said:
my problem is i want to convert my htc to gpe but i can't s-off with firewater (error: only position independent executables (PIE) are supported.) i thing because i have lolipop
so i will back to kitkit and try to s-off
thank you bro :good:
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Firewater was discontinued months ago. Sunshine S-Off is the ONLY method that works now.
nassimxmax said:
my problem is i want to convert my htc to gpe but i can't s-off with firewater (error: only position independent executables (PIE) are supported.) i thing because i have lolipop
so i will back to kitkat and try to s-off
thank you bro :good:
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If you want to "fully convert" to GPE to get the different partition scheme (free up internal storage) or get official OTA updates, you will need to use sunshine s-off.
But if you just want to use a GPE ROM, no need to "fully convert". Just flash a GPE based custom ROM. No need to s-off, as long as the ROM supports your current firmware (hboot, radio, etc.).
redpoint73 said:
If you want to "fully convert" to GPE to get the different partition scheme (free up internal storage) or get official OTA updates, you will need to use sunshine s-off.
But if you just want to use a GPE ROM, no need to "fully convert". Just flash a GPE based custom ROM. No need to s-off, as long as the ROM supports your current firmware (hboot, radio, etc.).
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i get s-off with sunshine and flashed with gpe ruu rooted from here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2708589
i flashed use my pc with fastboot
sometimes i have bugs and low of fps ... why ? i think in stock version senes 6 feel better
what is better ruu or ota ? what is different ?
what is best stock rom to use you recommend for my device ... ? i want smooth and good for gamming ...
i will wait for android 5.1 and want to try cyanogenmod 12
sorry for my bad english i am new
thx
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what is better ruu or ota ? what is different ?
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In my opinion, RUU is "better". RUU is a cleaner install, and contains all partitions. OTA leaves user data (although you can always wipe it yourself for a clean install) and needs to be installed in sequence, since sometimes it only contains the partitions that were updated.
If you are interested in CM12, just try it. How a ROM performs is often unique to the user depending on how you use the phone. For instance, I don't game on my M8, so I can't give you an opinion relevant to your usage.
thank's all for helping
Hello Guys,
Today I decided to install CyanogenMod 13 on my HTC One M8. Here is what I did:
- Unlocked the bootloader;
- Flashed TWRP Recovery;
- In recovery, I wiped everything I could;
- Installed CM13 and Gapps.
Now, the phone works good, but in case I want to go back to stock, what should I do? I still have S-ON.
Thanks for the help!
(also, info about where to download the stock ROM is welcome)
You should have made a nandroid backup right after flashing TWRP.
Oh and there are 2 threads with backups. 1 here in the Q&A and 1 in the general. Can't be missed !
Mr Hofs said:
You should have made a nandroid backup right after flashing TWRP.
Oh and there are 2 threads with backups. 1 here in the Q&A and 1 in the general. Can't be missed !
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So, I didn't do the backup. But my question is: is it possible to install stock ROM now?
Everyone says I have to use S-OFF to be able to install Stock again. Why is that?
andrewKode said:
So, I didn't do the backup. But my question is: is it possible to install stock ROM now?
Everyone says I have to use S-OFF to be able to install Stock again. Why is that?
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Because they are incorrect.
You can go back to stock by flashing a stock TWRP backup and stock recovery, but you can't set the flag to "locked" from "unlocked" without S-Off. You can only set it to "relocked".
But you can go back to the stock ROM and recovery easily.
xunholyx said:
Because they are incorrect.
You can go back to stock by flashing a stock TWRP backup and stock recovery, but you can't set the flag to "locked" from "unlocked" without S-Off. You can only set it to "relocked".
But you can go back to the stock ROM and recovery easily.
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I don't need to make exactly like before. All I need to know is if there is a way back to stock, and custom ROMs after that.
I'm not sure if this is correct, but some people said I can't install custom ROMs with S-ON and I can't make it S-OFF without stock ROM because SunShine requires it. That's it. Thanks for help!
andrewKode said:
I don't need to make exactly like before. All I need to know is if there is a way back to stock, and custom ROMs after that.
I'm not sure if this is correct, but some people said I can't install custom ROMs with S-ON and I can't make it S-OFF without stock ROM because SunShine requires it. That's it. Thanks for help!
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You don't need S-Off to install custom ROMs. You do need it to convert to GPE, if that's what you mean. The M8 and M8 GPe are different models with different partition locations and sizes.
You do need to be on a stock or close to stock ROM to gain S-Off.
ViperOneM8 works, and has been suggested by the developers of Sunshine S-Off.
MaximusHD is also known to work, and is what I usually suggest even though I work with Team Venom.
It's always worked because it is very near stock.
I imagine that it works with ViperOneM8 on a fresh install, before flashing the modifications that are available, or going through the Tweaks.
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You don't need S-Off to install custom ROMs. You do need it to convert to GPE, if that's what you mean. The M8 and M8 GPe are different models with different partition locations and sizes.
You do need to be on a stock or close to stock ROM to gain S-Off.
ViperOneM8 works, and has been suggested by the developers of Sunshine S-Off.
MaximusHD is also known to work, and is what I usually suggest even though I work with Team Venom.
It's always worked because it is very near stock.
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Great info, thanks a lot.
Any idea if Android Revolution HD by Mike will do?
Anyway, if the Official CM recovery will be able to install CM13+ updates when they release them, I am totally fine with how the phone is right now.
andrewKode said:
Great info, thanks a lot.
Any idea if Android Revolution HD by Mike will do?
Anyway, if the Official CM recovery will be able to install CM13+ updates when they release them, I am totally fine with how the phone is right now.
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ARHD should work, yes.