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Hello guys,
I've been lurking around the forum learning things on my own. I bought a Galaxy S 8GB 4 days back on a contract from O2.
the phone is awesome, and all.. but after installing few games and apps, I have come to see that the phone lags a lot. It became unresponsive and I had to soft reset the phone many times to get it working properly.
I then hard reset the phone on day 3 (yesterday) and now the phone's running a bit better. I installed a few apps and Fancy Widget, and the phone became very slow again. I uninstalled Fancy Widget and the phone became a bit fast, but still lags at times.
I feel like throwing the phone at wall.
Why is this lag happening and what do I do to minimise/eliminate this lag?
cheers!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=725194
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=724251
is the best solution today
JG5 + root + AutoKiller(Strict setting+) gave me great results.
Memory card fix isnt much faster. Im not sure about the quadrant benchmark, I had 1600~ but the phone felt the same.
personally im waiting for samsung to release an official firmware. i can't backup my original firmware and the rom is released nowhere, so my only choice is to wait until i can flash an official firmware to keep my warranty.
im not sure how these unofficial firmwares are created/named/released but the naming structure would suggest leaked beta firmwares from samsung themselves. the phones not that bad for me at the moment hopefully froyo fixes the little issues going around.
correct me if im wrong.
OrionTC said:
personally im waiting for samsung to release an official firmware. i can't backup my original firmware and the rom is released nowhere, so my only choice is to wait until i can flash an official firmware to keep my warranty.
im not sure how these unofficial firmwares are created/named/released but the naming structure would suggest leaked beta firmwares from samsung themselves. the phones not that bad for me at the moment hopefully froyo fixes the little issues going around.
correct me if im wrong.
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The official firmware can be found:
http://www.samsung-firmware.webs.com/
lenrek said:
The official firmware can be found:
http://www.samsung-firmware.webs.com/
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Im one of the users with the I9000XXJF3 firmware and currently i can't find a backup for this. i see JF1 JF2 and JF7 on that site.
i know im not alone with this and a few people have asked if its possible to create a backup of their firmware but as far as i know none of the threads have been fully answered.
OrionTC said:
Im one of the users with the I9000XXJF3 firmware and currently i can't find a backup for this. i see JF1 JF2 and JF7 on that site.
i know im not alone with this and a few people have asked if its possible to create a backup of their firmware but as far as i know none of the threads have been fully answered.
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If I read the version correctly, according to the description found here.
You are using:
I9000XXJF3
XX - Austria, Belgium, France, Germany, Hungary, Italy, Spain, United Kingdom
J - 2010
F - June
3 - Version 3
So, the I9000XXJF7 should be the latest official firmware version for your phone.
I forgot...
Why not try the suggestion here:
[TUT] How To Create DUMP out of Stock Rom
EDIT: Did not read the content of the thread, after read it, maybe is not what you are looking for.
Hmm, im just a little cautious, call me paranoid but surely official firmwares would be released via OTA/samsung website/Kias(whatever its called).
and yes i posted in that thread hoping it was what i was looking for but no lol.
i do agree with you that I9000XXJF7 is "my" latest firmware, but i dont think its officially from samsung.
id be happy if someone can prove me wrong so i can finally flash to JG5
the samsung-firmwares.com site is not an official one, but everyone gets their FW's from there. just flash a custom rom and you should be fine.
DocRambone said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=725194
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=724251
is the best solution today
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thanks for the prompt reply. but I dont want to do any damage to my phone; and I dont have a memory card yet :/
bushrat said:
JG5 + root + AutoKiller(Strict setting+) gave me great results.
Memory card fix isnt much faster. Im not sure about the quadrant benchmark, I had 1600~ but the phone felt the same.
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I dont want to root my phone (as its brand new) and I dont know what effect does it do on warranty and stuff.
OrionTC said:
personally im waiting for samsung to release an official firmware. i can't backup my original firmware and the rom is released nowhere, so my only choice is to wait until i can flash an official firmware to keep my warranty
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my exact problem and my thoughts
OrionTC said:
Im one of the users with the I9000XXJF3 firmware and currently i can't find a backup for this. i see JF1 JF2 and JF7 on that site.
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mine is the same too
so I have to root the phone to make it faster.
this doesnt answer why the phone is slow in the first place? I have read about NAND and stuff which I dont understand. what do they mean? Can someone explain in plain english?
thanks
It's slow because for some reason, the Galaxy doesn't auto kill apps once the memory reaches low levels. So you can do two things. Install the autokiller app which should keep enough memory free for smooth operation, or you can install advanced task killer app, and kill all the apps yourself once the phone feels sluggish.
hi,
are you have a task killer like app installed ?
all apps running in background when you start them onetime..with task killer you can close all. i have 170mb ram..
after few hours of playing with my sgs its slowing down, then i look in task killer just 40mb ram.
when i kill all apps i have again 170mb and anything is fine ;-))
test it..
or check fastreboot its faster then a softreset with the power button
sorry for my bad english guys
navmanyeah said:
It's slow because for some reason, the Galaxy doesn't auto kill apps once the memory reaches low levels. So you can do two things. Install the autokiller app which should keep enough memory free for smooth operation, or you can install advanced task killer app, and kill all the apps yourself once the phone feels sluggish.
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I have tried the autokiller app but it stopped me from using it because it said it could harm my phone.
also what kind of idiotic developer wouldnt put a proper memory management module in it?
I would love to root the phone and muck with it if I could only be assured I wouldn't lose my warranty. Until someone tells me all is good, all I can do is nail apps as best I can.
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Will a factory reset undo the root? If so rooting and autokiller is a no brainer.
emclondon said:
I have tried the autokiller app but it stopped me from using it because it said it could harm my phone.
also what kind of idiotic developer wouldnt put a proper memory management module in it?
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If such a statement stops you, than you really shouldn't touch any setting on the phone =) Or buy IPhone.
Its protection against idiots
dupel said:
If such a statement stops you, than you really shouldn't touch any setting on the phone =) Or buy IPhone.
Its protection against idiots
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lol bit harsh but true.If you really do want to be cautious just wait for the official firmware update from samsung-it will be fixed(has been fixed already in jg5).It looks like samsung wanted to get the phone to market as quick as possible so firmware suffered.Judging by sales it looks like they made a good choice from a business point of view
<insert thread title here> ... an object of ridicule..
ive tried autokiller and advanced task manager, autokiller made my phone even sluggish.
still have the phone in stock condition.
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this happened to me like 5-6 times till now.
Mate: "oh you got a new mobile?"
Me: "yeah"
*shows him*
Mate: "oh you got the new iPhone?, thats cool!"
Me: :/
*facepalm*
I cant even show them my phone because people think it of as it looks like iPhone is a clone of iPhone.
and when I try to show them, my phone becomes hell lot of slow, and I get to hear things like "i got a crap phone" and "nokia 3310 is faster than yours" and stuff
Lag fix time maybe? Its super easy to do and makes massive difference.
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Think you need to stop caring what people think
Nah, I admit, it's nice showing off your phone's though. Not sure what kind of friends you have, but I've found the ability to actually do whatever I want with my phone has left most iPhone friends annoyed and somewhat jealous. Something simple as transfering regular files to your phone could be enough
ello guys.
going from my 2 year old htc desire to this....
so...what are the first things to do with this galaxy nexus?
Vital apps needed?
specific things to do in the settings to make it run better?
it would be nice to make a guide to follow.
first thing ive done so far is buy a TPU S line case, and Expertshield screen protector.
If the battery life is rubbish i'll have to get the extension pack....but hardly anyone in the UK seems to sell them...lots of korea sales for genuine ones on ebay.
would a non-genuine thing still be as good?
heard of this dodgy issue with a 'yellowy' tint screen - what to do there? have to root the phone?
etc.etc...
Fast boot OEM unlock
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Unlock the phone a root it first because unlocking it will wipe the phone clean of EVERYTHING. So get that done first and the rest is up to you stay stock or flash a rom.
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Here are my favorite apps on my Galaxy Nexus
-Chrome Beta
-Boid (Twitter)
-Tasks (Google Tasks)
-Weather Flow
-Intsagram
-Wolfram Alpha
-Icy Time (Timer and Stopwatch)
-Wallbase (Wallpapers)
Now that you have Android 4.0 you'll most likely fall in love with the Holo design guidelines. A list of some of the apps that use these guidelines can be found here and some good looking apps in general can here.
If you plan on rooting your phone or think you might want to in the future Unlock the bootloader, if you don't you will regret it, trust me. As for the battery life, I can get through the whole day with no problems while others complain that the battery life is bad, I suggest that you use the phone for a week before you get an extended battery.
There's a forum about the yellow screen issue here if you experience this at all then send it back as soon as possible despite the desire to play with your brand new toy.
If you have more questions just ask.
Sign for it
Take it out the box
Charge it
Press power
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If you like miui and don't want to root. Miui launcher is now available as an apk. That's one of the first things I installed when I got mine. The stock launcher is pretty good too.
Mi Launcher
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1623026
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try ur phone with everything stock for a few days, see if everything works, no reboots, overheating etc etc (might want to check if u got an OTA update though, coz there's a big difference for example between 4.0.1 and 4.0.4 in terms of stability)... if u're satisfied with stock , there is no need to root then , if u want to play around a lil u'll figure what to do urself.
p.s. i also owned a desire, but went through some devices in the middle before the gnex, nways, the desire can't be even mentioned in the same sentence with what u're getting now. welcome aboard
First things to do:
1) Unlock your bootloader, even if you never plan on rooting or flashing a custom ROM. Do this even before booting Android for the first time.
2) Check to see if you are running yakju or takju. If you are running a build other than those two (for GSM devices), flash one of them (by following the link in my signature). Run one of those two builds for a while, so that you get a feel for what a stock ROM is.
3) Everything else.
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Keep it stock for at least a week, get to know the phone. Saves having to post about problems you're having on a custom rom just to find out its not the roms fault. This will also allow you to give real feedback when comparing roms as a opposed to these douches who flashed on day one n insist that rom x is better than stock
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i will definitely run stock for a few weeks and get used to it all.
however i am one to fiddle, but im totally new to this phone world in terms of rooting, custom ROMS etc, never bothered before.
put it this way though......i dont own any apple products
can anyone point me to the best guide for rooting, and installing custom Roms?
also can anyone link me to a list of custom roms for the gnex, that are either finished or in development?
im just asking for the links because im very sure the question 'how do you root' has been asked a hundred times - i could google it - but i presume you guys will immediately know a link to the best and safest guide.
having a read through, it seems people have already tweaked the gnex for better things - better kernels? to get better battery life? etc.etc...
is that part of the firmware? is that what you get with custom roms?
i need to understand the basics first.
(im buying the phone sim free unlocked)
Everything you need is in the q&a and development sub forums where you found this one
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schueyisking said:
i will definitely run stock for a few weeks and get used to it all.
however i am one to fiddle, but im totally new to this phone world in terms of rooting, custom ROMS etc, never bothered before.
put it this way though......i dont own any apple products
can anyone point me to the best guide for rooting, and installing custom Roms?
also can anyone link me to a list of custom roms for the gnex, that are either finished or in development?
im just asking for the links because im very sure the question 'how do you root' has been asked a hundred times - i could google it - but i presume you guys will immediately know a link to the best and safest guide.
having a read through, it seems people have already tweaked the gnex for better things - better kernels? to get better battery life? etc.etc...
is that part of the firmware? is that what you get with custom roms?
i need to understand the basics first.
(im buying the phone sim free unlocked)
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HERE you go
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=23229558
Galaxy Nexus AOKP m5 Franco kernel m3
doesnt rooting or installing a new kernel void the warranty?
schueyisking said:
doesnt rooting or installing a new kernel void the warranty?
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You can always flash back to stock.
No warranty problems.
Backup your /efs partition... =o)
a week of stock? i don't last more than 3 hours, and that's if i'm trying to really be patient. within an hour of getting mine i had flashed the radios, bootloader, rom, and the kernel.
tspderek said:
a week of stock? i don't last more than 3 hours, and that's if i'm trying to really be patient. within an hour of getting mine i had flashed the radios, bootloader, rom, and the kernel.
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How do you even know what stock ICS is if you only use it for 3 hours?
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I just got my GN directly from Google and didn't do any unlocking of any sort. Just turned it on and added some apps I plan on using. Changed my homescreen and other screens/settings to fit my personal use and etc.
The phone is amazing without the need of unlocking.
Not really sure... the phone is already unlocked -.- (SIM wise)
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The phone is amazing without the need of unlocking.
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Do you understand what unlocking means? We are talking about unlocking the bootloader. Unlocking the bootloader does NOT mean that you are changing anything related to the ROM. I does NOT mean that you are "rooting", and it does not mean you are planning to use a custom ROM.
All it means is that it gives you the ability to use fastboot commands. With this ability, you may be able to save some data off your device in case something happens and your devices' OS crashes. There have been a few reports on these forums of users who kept their bootloaders locked, then something happened and they couldn't boot their device. If their bootloaders had been unlocked, they could have at least saved their personal files (photos, music, etc) from the /sdcard directory. But, because their bootloaders were locked, too bad so sad, photos gone (they were not auto-backup to the cloud).
+1
Definitely unlock the bootloader - I learned the hard way on my N1 that getting an 'unlocked phone' is different from having a phone with an unlocked bootloader. (hunting down a bootloader locked root method so I can Titanium Backup 2 years of apps and data is a PIA).
Unlocking the bootloader on a brand new phone will not outwardly do anything to your phone other than add a little unlocked padlock to the bottom of your startup screen (the one with Google written on it).
I did 2 weeks ago what you're talking about doing now. It's super easy with the Galaxy Nexus Toolkit that mskip has created.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1392310
[EDIT] P.S. - don't worry about losing warranty when unlocking the bootloader - the above GNex Toolkit can get your phone back to stock and then re-lock the bootloader for you if you ever need to use the warranty.
efrant said:
First things to do:
1) Unlock your bootloader, even if you never plan on rooting or flashing a custom ROM. Do this even before booting Android for the first time.
2) Check to see if you are running yakju or takju. If you are running a build other than those two (for GSM devices), flash one of them (by following the link in my signature). Run one of those two builds for a while, so that you get a feel for what a stock ROM is.
3) Everything else.
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I'm coming off 2 generations of HTC phones and I'm due an upgrade with Sprint. I bypassed on the GS5 and One M8 for various reasons and the G3 seems to fit my needs but I have a few questions first.
1) Root is must. While I know the phone can be rooted, I'm worried about updates afterward. I'm fine with a stock ROM but I need to know that after I root I can still update Android, bug fixes, radios, new features. Can this be done and if so how (only a very basic description is needed, not a guide lol). I've read the the bootloader can not be unlocked so what are limitations associted with that?
2) Will Android "L" and it's ART only runtime work on this phone? If so, I guess that relates to my question #1 if I'm already rooted.
3) Actually, that's really it. The phone looks amazing and I'm ok with it "only" being a snapdragon 801 with the 805 and beyond right around the corner but I need to know that if I root, I'll be able to easily flash new updates as they become available.
Now that the phone is in the wild in the US, are there any clearer answers to my questions? Thank You.
Hi, first of all I would like to say the phone is great, it seems to get some negative comments here but since I got one I have been very happy with my first LG handset.
Ok we'll you can't get ota's after rooting, I haven't received any official updates yet so I'm not sure if we can just full uproot with supersu to get the it a again or not. But flashing a stock firmware is a pretty simple procedure and the kind folks here at xda keep us up to date with all the stock firmware so you can update and then reroot.
ART will run on this phone no problem at all however it seems android L may break root so if root is a must you may be best advised to look into you're updates before hand, which is another advantage of getting you're stock rom's at xda. Would be pretty frustrating to agree to a ota and find out you can no longer root when it's done.
But in short, root is fine on 'nearly' all he variants and flashing stock fw manually is not to much fuss.
Hope that helps you a little.
557953 said:
Hi, first of all I would like to say the phone is great, it seems to get some negative comments here but since I got one I have been very happy with my first LG handset.
Ok we'll you can't get ota's after rooting, I haven't received any official updates yet so I'm not sure if we can just full uproot with supersu to get the it a again or not. But flashing a stock firmware is a pretty simple procedure and the kind folks here at xda keep us up to date with all the stock firmware so you can update and then reroot.
ART will run on this phone no problem at all however it seems android L may break root so if root is a must you may be best advised to look into you're updates before hand, which is another advantage of getting you're stock rom's at xda. Would be pretty frustrating to agree to a ota and find out you can no longer root when it's done.
But in short, root is fine on 'nearly' all he variants and flashing stock fw manually is not to much fuss.
Hope that helps you a little.
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It does help a bit. Thank you but I need to have this clear in my head. With HTC, in order to update radios, you needed s-off, which was more than just root. That's what I'm hesitant about here, if I root, and want an update the g3, I have to unroot, update and re root? What if the update prevents root? I don't want to be stuck with a choice of updating or keeping root on a phone that won't be able to stay updated with the latest version and patches of software.
Really, knowing that I'll be able to root, and update firmware, radios and software throughout the life of the phone is the only thing holding me back from an LG G3 or waiting for the note 4 and a probably larger development base. I'd prefer the G3 so I hope it can be assured.
flyhighx said:
It does help a bit. Thank you but I need to have this clear in my head. With HTC, in order to update radios, you needed s-off, which was more than just root. That's what I'm hesitant about here, if I root, and want an update the g3, I have to unroot, update and re root? What if the update prevents root? I don't want to be stuck with a choice of updating or keeping root on a phone that won't be able to stay updated with the latest version and patches of software.
Really, knowing that I'll be able to root, and update firmware, radios and software throughout the life of the phone is the only thing holding me back from an LG G3 or waiting for the note 4 and a probably larger development base. I'd prefer the G3 so I hope it can be assured.
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If you're into rooting and flashing custom rooms I would seriously avoid this phone and wait for note 4. Trust me when you get your hands on this phone the first thing you want to do is get rid of the lag. It seriously lags worse then S5. I'm a HTC fan and found the lag really annoying constantly using task manager which I hate doing.
So if you are a rooter and love to flash roms don't buy.
riz157 said:
If you're into rooting and flashing custom rooms I would seriously avoid this phone and wait for note 4. Trust me when you get your hands on this phone the first thing you want to do is get rid of the lag. It seriously lags worse then S5. I'm a HTC fan and found the lag really annoying constantly using task manager which I hate doing.
So if you are a rooter and love to flash roms don't buy.
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its funny you say that. I looked at the phone today. First thing I thought of when I looked at it was touchwiz. The UI just seemed very laggy. Maybe after all the hype I was just expecting a bit more. Nice phone but didn't "wow" me.
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I'm coming from the s4 and s3 prior to that. I have looked into every phone and leak there is but decided the G3 was the right fit.
I got my G3 early Thursday from AT&T and I have no complaints thus far. I do notice slight lag from time to time but if you're on XDA and are use to custom slimmed down ROMs then yes, you'll kind of notice it. But trust me, it is far from a deal breaker.
Here's the thing, in a few weeks there will be numerous ROM's that have stripped away the bloatware and added a few tweaks and the lag will be non existent. I already have my phone rooted and have deleted most of the bloatware and added UI tweaks. I barely notice lag and I'm actually enjoying the UI.
This is just my 2 cents. And being loyal Samsung customer for years I can honestly say I prefer LG 's new UI over touchwiz any day.
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crazyagg said:
I'm coming from the s4 and s3 prior to that. I have looked into every phone and leak there is but decided the G3 was the right fit.
I got my G3 early Thursday from AT&T and I have no complaints thus far. I do notice slight lag from time to time but if you're on XDA and are use to custom slimmed down ROMs then yes, you'll kind of notice it. But trust me, it is far from a deal breaker.
Here's the thing, in a few weeks there will be numerous ROM's that have stripped away the bloatware and added a few tweaks and the lag will be non existent. I already have my phone rooted and have deleted most of the bloatware and added UI tweaks. I barely notice lag and I'm actually enjoying the UI.
This is just my 2 cents. And being loyal Samsung customer for years I can honestly say I prefer LG 's new UI over touchwiz any day.
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Mind sharing what you did? I'm coming from a note 2 and n5 and this lag is driving me nuts!
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Kreateablaze said:
Mind sharing what you did? I'm coming from a note 2 and n5 and this lag is driving me nuts!
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I rooted with ioroot, deleted all useless apps and froze others that I don't use with titanium backup.
I still have some lag but nothing that is driving me crazy by any means. The only time it lagged for me was when I used the LG health screen and I think the photo gallery. I turned off the health screen and I've always use QuickPic instead of stock gallery. Most my lag is gone but not all.
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https://twitter.com/utoprime/status/487866199737634816/photo/1
Everyone is going to have there own opinions
i am a note2/note3 owner that now has the LG G3 the note 3 was the worst phone i have ever owned. So far am liking the LG G3 root will come shortly.
JustusIV said:
https://twitter.com/utoprime/status/487866199737634816/photo/1
Everyone is going to have there own opinions
i am a note2/note3 owner that now has the LG G3 the note 3 was the worst phone i have ever owned. So far am liking the LG G3 root will come shortly.
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How is the Note 3 the worse phone ever? I note 3 on both VZW and AT&T using KK. Both work great. Personally much better than my Note 1 & 2. I don't have any lag. I did order the LG 3 to replace my VZW Note 3. My only complaint with the Note 3 is horrible pictures when it does its "processing" garbage.
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Big Dawg 23 said:
How is the Note 3 the worse phone ever? I note 3 on both VZW and AT&T using KK. Both work great. Personally much better than my Note 1 & 2. I don't have any lag. I did order the LG 3 to replace my VZW Note 3. My only complaint with the Note 3 is horrible pictures when it does its "processing" garbage.
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I believe that has to do with software OIS from within the camera app options. You can turn this off
Big Dawg 23 said:
How is the Note 3 the worse phone ever? I note 3 on both VZW and AT&T using KK. Both work great. Personally much better than my Note 1 & 2. I don't have any lag. I did order the LG 3 to replace my VZW Note 3. My only complaint with the Note 3 is horrible pictures when it does its "processing" garbage.
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I have a little girl and did not get one photo I was happy with. Worst phone ever!
In addition it was the first time I couldn't run aosp
I just got my Verizon Note 4 in the mail today and realized that no one has yet to find a way to root it. Right now I'm using my rooted Verizon Note 2. I'm wondering if I should even bother activating my Note 4 and start using it or should I just hold off and hope someone finds a way to root it in the near future.
What do you guys think?
It's nothing what we think, do what you feel you want. We aren't using the phone, you are, it's ultimately up to you on what you feel you want.
Can you use a phone without root? Can you live without it? Then use the note 4
Tripper511 said:
I just got my Verizon Note 4 in the mail today and realized that no one has yet to find a way to root it. Right now I'm using my rooted Verizon Note 2. I'm wondering if I should even bother activating my Note 4 and start using it or should I just hold off and hope someone finds a way to root it in the near future.
What do you guys think?
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I came from the note 2 as well and was also disappointed to hear that root has not been achieved yet. To cope I installed nova launcher and tried to tone down touch wiz as much as possible, which has helped tremendously in my opinion. Even without root this phone is ridiculously fast and has insane battery life compared to the note 2. I can go nearly a week with 7 hours of screen on time without charging it using the stock battery. This phone is amazing even without root access, but when it does finally get rooted it will destroy everything else on the market.
blazednova said:
I can go nearly a week with 7 hours of screen on time without charging it using the stock battery. t.
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What?? A week? What do you leave it in ultra power saving mode all the time?
Shoot, in ultra-powersaving mode you could probably make it almost 2 weeks!
As was said, do what you feel is best. I can live without root, but I don't like it personally. However, it is STILL even WITHOUT root, better than my Note 3, which I still have. I love my Note 4. Admittedly though, I've got it up for sale to see if I can get any biters to try and mitigate the cost of a developer edition. Either way, I can't wait for that root.
Ragnell said:
It's nothing what we think, do what you feel you want. We aren't using the phone, you are, it's ultimately up to you on what you feel you want.
Can you use a phone without root? Can you live without it? Then use the note 4
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Well I guess my main concern is whether I'm going to get hit with an OTA update without realizing it then find out I can't root anymore. As of now, if I start using the phone with stock kit kat 4.4.4 I should be okay right? I guess worse case scenario I'd just have to reinstall all my apps when the Note 4 root comes out.
So maybe my safest bet is to start using the Note 4 but make sure I keep it at kit kat 4.4.4 the whole time?
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Well I guess my main concern is whether I'm going to get hit with an OTA update without realizing it then find out I can't root anymore. As of now, if I start using the phone with stock kit kat 4.4.4 I should be okay right? I guess worse case scenario I'd just have to reinstall all my apps when the Note 4 root comes out.
So maybe my safest bet is to start using the Note 4 but make sure I keep it at kit kat 4.4.4 the whole time?
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There are ways to prevent OTAs without root so youll be safe
I'll say sell it ,buy the DE and call it a year
Only geeks can't live without root LOL pretty much you can do most of the things without root besides adaway
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The n4 is the best un-rooted device I have ever owned. With Nova and turned off bloat, this phone is awesome. I haven't regretted buying this phone and it will last me a long time. Good luck
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phibo said:
I'll say sell it ,buy the DE and call it a year
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Seconded, I just got my DE
Since Samsung went with a non removable battery and no SD slot with the S6. This could possibly be the last phone with an removable battery and SD slot.
Don't activate it send it back and get a nexus 6 if you want a unlocked bootloader and roms
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Only geeks can't live without root LOL pretty much you can do most of the things without root besides adaway
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Yeah that's true. I won't necessarily need to control my cpu speed with setcpu since the Note 4 has 2 power saving modes. There are some older versions of apps I'd like to restore with Titanium backup, and some I'd like to delete with the same program but I guess I can wait until root comes out to do that. I'm gonna miss not having the Freedom app but I'll live.
I do want to install the older version of google maps, the one that had the navigation icon, can I still do that without root?
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Don't activate it send it back and get a nexus 6 if you want a unlocked bootloader and roms
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I looked into the nexus 6. The note 4 still seems like a better phone and the Nexus 6 isn't available for Verizon yet.
Of course if I got the DE version of the Note 4 I'd be set but I really don't feel like dropping $700 on the phone. I just spend $300 to get this with my upgrade.
You know the answer, how important is root to you? If I had known root likely wasn't coming unlike my other notes, I might have waited. It's worth the extra for the de. The camera is amazing, everything works fine, but it's hampered by stock twiz and only you know what that's worth to you.
Root would be amazing. Yes. But this phone is still a beast even without it. Yes I'd love to gain root. Until then I gladly use mine without root.
I'm thinking about upgrading from my Samsung S4 to the LG G4. I primarily use my phone for some moderate/heavy graphics gaming, normal phone calling/texting/photos, and tethering as my main home internet. It seems like from what I've read that the easiest way to root the G4 is to take the OTA 13b update then flash a rooted image that's posted in the forums correct? Would you guys recommend this phone for what I need out of it? My main reason for upgrading is because my S4 overheats easily while I download things when tethering. Also, I hate phones that don't have a removable battery or lacks a microsd slot. Have you guys noticed any extreme overheating issues where the phone will close down apps or shutdown completely? Let me know your thoughts, thanks!
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I'm thinking about upgrading from my Samsung S4 to the LG G4. I primarily use my phone for some moderate/heavy graphics gaming, normal phone calling/texting/photos, and tethering as my main home internet. It seems like from what I've read that the easiest way to root the G4 is to take the OTA 13b update then flash a rooted image that's posted in the forums correct? Would you guys recommend this phone for what I need out of it? My main reason for upgrading is because my S4 overheats easily while I download things when tethering. Also, I hate phones that don't have a removable battery or lacks a microsd slot. Have you guys noticed any extreme overheating issues where the phone will close down apps or shutdown completely? Let me know your thoughts, thanks!
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I havent used a Samsung phone since the Galaxy Nexus so I can't directly compare but I did come from the HTC One M7 which was a great phone. With that said, I find the G4 to be the best phone I have used in a long time. It just works. It is fast, has an incredible screen and doesnt have to too much LG skinning over Android UI. I haven't noticed any overheat issues with it, and like you I love the fact that the battery is removable. Usually I get more than a full days worth out of the battery, but on really heavy usage days its nice to be able to put my other battery in and not worry about my phone dying.
As far as rooting goes, if you by the G4 then taking the OTA and rooting from there is your best bet. I personally prefer this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/general/lg-g4-100-root-success-directives-root-t3180586 because it is easy to follow and it will provide you with a backup of your stock system image incase something goes wrong and you want to quickly go back to stock or to your last good configuration. If you don't want to root your own, you could just use one of the existing pre-rooted images and skip to step 3 of the tutorial I linked.
The only thing I don' t like about this phone is that the bootloader the carrier devices, which means no custom ROMS unless your on the international unlocked version. There was work happening on unlocking the bootloader for our devices but last I checked it would only work with the VS986 version 10 software, so all of us on 11a, 12b, or 13b are SOL until they figure out how to unlock our bootloaders. Besides that, I love this phone.
Thanks for your response! I ended up buying it so that's great to hear! My S4 bootloader was locked as well. Seems like all Verizon phones from now on will have bootloader locked unless it's the Google phones.
quick question, i am in 10B version and can i use the root injection in this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/general/lg-g4-100-root-success-directives-root-t3180586) to root the device?
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quick question, i am in 10B version and can i use the root injection in this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/general/lg-g4-100-root-success-directives-root-t3180586) to root the device?
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You should be able to. AFAIK it works for all software versions.