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Hi, there!
I use Froyo, unrooted, for new apps the sd card is set as default place for installation.
This morning I have tried to test how many apps can be put on the phone. I have reinstalled some not so useful apps from the sd card (where I have stored them in the course of the last months).
Some app had problems to install, the process would not finish. So I switched the phone off and on again. After reboot, the apps installed on the sd card are not being found any more. Neither is it possible, to install an app from the Market, the installation process does not finish.
In the settings menue, the sd card and its distribution of the used and free space is shown correctly, as is the free internal memory with 26 MB. But it is not possible, for instance, to use the removal of the sd card function.
It is clearly no issue of the sd card as such, I would say - apps which are installed on the phone (like tuneWiki, due to the use of its widget) have easy access to the sd card.
Every suggestion how to resolve the issue is welcome!
Issue resolved: Via menu -> applications -> administration -> only running apps I was able to halt some applications (the regular task manager is installed on the sd card as well, of course), amongst which was an app called package installer. Apparently, that was the solution, since after a new reboot, everything works fine again.
I'm not so lucky I Had the same problem as you a few hours after installing the new OTA update (and some other apps, dunno if it is related). Sadly my phone didn't show how much storage was on the SD card. And after a hard reset the PC wouldn't even recognize it. I think the phone killed my sd card
Before anyone answers, no, I am not looking to simply enable write access to the external SDcard!
Q: Is there a Sense 6 based rom (for the M8 of course), that returns pre-Kitkat functionality for the external SDcard?
I hardly have any apps installed, but because I use GPS apps with offline maps, and the numerous e-books (lots of graphic novels) and such I take along to pass time, my internal memory space is already getting close to full. I've already used the supposed SDcard Fix, which does allow me to write to the external SDcard, but the apps still use the internal storage space only. If not a Sense 6 based rom, is there a alternative rom which returns functionality to the external SDcard? Or maybe some way to change or add symbolic links? It's driving me crazy that I purchased a 64GB card just so that I can carry as much as I can with me and not worry about space, yet can't really make any use out of it.
Btw, I'm looking for a Sense 6 based rom because I love the HTC camera app. Much better then the Google camera app imo, and pretty much the only app I have that actually uses the external SDCard.
Nearly all custom Roms are with sd card fix
Then I'll try one of the Sense roms on here for the M8, though I don't see any specifically mention how the external SDcard is handled.
Yea there won't be no real mention, but we have full access to sd card, and if not there is a xposed module which fixes that, but I use renovate 4.0.1 and I can do all things which I was able to do before with the one x too...deleting music , changing direction really all things, so yea the fix is inside
Even apps using the external SDcard like in previous Android versions? That is what I'm looking for. Simply making the external SDcard writable is not enough, because the apps still don't use the external SDcard when they are installed or they download the needed data for the app. For example, I want the GPS map data to install itself and the app to make use of it from the external SDcard. Me being able to move the data does nothing if the app still wont use it.
Hopefully that makes it clear what I'm looking to do, as I've seen plenty of other posts in other similar threads where no seems to understand what the question really is.
I'll look into the Xposed fix, as I already use Xposed.
Aren't you able to select yourself where to save the data? If the app won't allow it because of slower read and write speed for example you can't do anything against it...external sd are often or always slower then the internal which is nearly like a ssd
You are correct. I was expecting some of the apps to use the ext_sd to write the downloaded data automatically, but apparently only a few of my apps do as such, or give the option. My previous Android devices had much smaller internal memory, so the default action for apps was to write the app to the internal, but download data to external. I was expecting the M8 to work the same, but with 32GB of internal memory (I know its less then that after the OS/stock apps), all the apps defaulted to writing everything to the internal memory and do not use the ext_sd at all. Looks like I'll need to use Folder Mount and see if that will solve my problems.
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You are correct. I was expecting some of the apps to use the ext_sd to write the downloaded data automatically, but apparently only a few of my apps do as such, or give the option. My previous Android devices had much smaller internal memory, so the default action for apps was to write the app to the internal, but download data to external. I was expecting the M8 to work the same, but with 32GB of internal memory (I know its less then that after the OS/stock apps), all the apps defaulted to writing everything to the internal memory and do not use the ext_sd at all. Looks like I'll need to use Folder Mount and see if that will solve my problems.
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Comparatively few Android devices offer external storage and Google seems to be on a mission to discourage OEMs from implementing it (no Nexus device has it...). So my guess is, that even the guidelines for Android app development are heading the same way. I wonder if the KitKat version of your GPS app just dropped ext-SD support because of the new rules or they made a general decision that it is not worth developing for it because relatively few devices have it.
Because even under KitKat (IF I finally understood the new permissions correctly) that app should be able to create a folder on ext-SD which it can read and write to.
That is how I understand the KitKat permission system: A third party app cannot write to the ext-SD except to a folder it created itself (=owns it).
So if you create a folder in File Manager on ext-SD, drag your maps in there, File Manager owns that folder. The GPS app should still be able to open them (if it lets you browse to it), but cannot change them or save new ones to that folder.
However, if you create that storage location from within the app it should still have full r/w permissions to that location. If the app does not offer that functionality, you're out of luck.
But that's a limitation of the app - not of KitKat.
If you still have an older TiBu backup of your GPS app that allowed you to save to ext-SD, restore it to your Kitkat rom and check if that works.
Most of us probably know that Android 6 Marshmallow comes with a new feature regarding the SD cards which can be formatted and configured as something very similar to internal memory.
If you haven't read about it, best first to Google the topic.
(I will add a few links later)
From reading about it, it seems to have its own disadvantages (e.g. that sdcard is slower than built-in storage; and some people claim it's not flexible, even claiming that built-in memory becomes not used almost), so this thread is to discuss this feature for use on the M9
I don't have 6.0 yet on my M9, but have been thinking about this (a lot). Coming from the One X+ with 64GB internal, the storage is the only area in which the M9 is a step back for me...
SD card formatted as Internal memory
Known:
- it's encrypted, strictly linked to 1 device. Card not readable on any other device or computer.
Questions
- what does it look like in a file system explorer?
- what is the built-in memory (32GB) mounted as?
- what is the sdcard memory mounted as?
- can the sdcard be written to *without* any restrictions by all 3rd party apps (the kind of restrictions introduced by KitKat, where apps need special permissions and programming to use external storage). (For me this is THE most important benefit)
- after formatting as internal, there is a choice to "move data from built-in memory to sdcard". What does it move? It's been suggested that if this is done, then the default location for new downloaded apps will be the sdcard - is it
I would think it's best to keep all apps & their data on the built-in memory - and use sdcard for (large collections of) pictures, music, movies, documents, e-books, ... all the stuff you don't need to read or write at super high speed, but take tons of space. Basically the way it worked before Google messed up the sdcard in KitKat.
Discuss away
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I also found out something interesting to let the rom see sd by titanium backup or solid explorer (I use these two mainly)
if you tap on sdcard in solid it lets you search the sd path which you can reach and set to use, works fine
also in titanium backup (I use sd backups) if you go to menu>preferences>backup folder path and tap on archiviation provider you can use different "methods" to reach your sd, if you use documentProvider it works just as solid explorer, you have the stock file manager and go to sd folder
I find it useful, I have the best card to get, for its storage to performance ratio (SanDisk Extreme PRO 64 GB).
Before formatting as an internal storage source, apps that could store cache and data externally (Spotify, camera)
But with android M, they where not storing externally anymore.
Now I have a device that has 100 Gb of storage internally.
The only minor downfall is that TWRP can not see this storage, it kind of sees its own partition I think, which is only around 25 GB in size. So to transfer ROMs or ZIPs, you have to plug in via usb
Anyone have experience to share with SD card on marshmallow stock ROM. Still haven't made the time to pop mine in and experiment. :-/
Personally I would want to keep the apps + main app data on built-in storage (32GB) (making the best use of that super fast storage) but give apps full access to the SD card.
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I also found out something interesting to let the rom see sd by titanium backup or solid explorer (I use these two mainly)
if you tap on sdcard in solid it lets you search the sd path which you can reach and set to use, works fine
also in titanium backup (I use sd backups) if you go to menu>preferences>backup folder path and tap on archiviation provider you can use different "methods" to reach your sd, if you use documentProvider it works just as solid explorer, you have the stock file manager and go to sd folder
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I tried to move the heavy apps to the SD card. But I don't think see any major changes in the main built storage
nikeian said:
I tried to move the heavy apps to the SD card. But I don't think see any major changes in the main built storage
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I was talking about backups. I never move apps to sd, looks like a fake goodie for me
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I was talking about backups. I never move apps to sd, looks like a fake goodie for me
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Apologies.
Talking about backup and restore HTC backup and restore doesn't work for Marshmallow 6.0
So being its encrypted for one phone,there is no way to reverse this and put in another phone. Example...if phone breaks or you upgrade.
Just received a notification for 6.0 update, can't wait to experiment on this new feature... If I understand it correctly, it would be beneficial for me since i've been using extsd to store large application data without moving the app itself...
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With Android 10 (or a 3rd party OS based on it) which I was following this guide for (unable to post link):
install-android-10-on-motorola-moto-g5-lineageos-17-1-how-to-guide
I just wanted to know if it allows you to move apps to external storage, because right now; they install whereever they want, and it seems like most prefer internal storage. I have obviously got an microSD card (a sandisk extreme pro 128GB with 90MB/s write in crystal disk mark). The small internal storage for me is the only issue I have which would be fixed with a way to choose default storage location (there is another issue of it not being clear if the place you want to save a file in on internal or external storage). Also I do have the SD card configured as internal storage.
I just installed an app to record voice calls (automatic call recorder), which has installed on the internal storage. I recorded a message from my three mobile top up but the recording was very difficult to understand even when played back at 70% volume on my PC headphones. I need it because I'm dealing with a company called repairtech.co.uk who told me that the reason they returned my monitor with a cracked screen was because I packed it incorrectly in the provided box (instead of packing material there are some hooks which suspend the monitor in the box with minimal aircushions). Since it was an out of warranty repair, I paid £80 for the evaluation that I needed to fork out for a completely new screen. I only found out about the crack when I overheard a conversation being made on my behalf and checked the box.
I can't do this upgrade right now because I need to have access to my bank account while I try to buy a new GPU which is available from tomorrow.
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Unlocked bootloader
Fastboot drivers installed on PC
I just tried but could not find a sticky or some such to get these pre-requisites.
Format sd card as internal storage & all data will be stored there
Advantages - more internal storage
Disadvantages - will only work on the device that formatted it as internal. You can't remove it & put it in another device without formatting it. Same for for if you want to change roms potentially.
A fast sd card is also required
Apps can't be "moved" to external storage (from android 5) in the way you are suggesting. Some apps like widgets will even break if you tried
Call recording works - you shouldn't need a 3rd party app on some roms as you can just hit record from the dialer but this is rom dependant.
Try using another dialer that can record or try on lineage mint in the Dev section - you may be using a very old rom if you are following some random guide you found on the net
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Format sd card as internal storage & all data will be stored there
Advantages - more internal storage
Disadvantages - will only work on the device that formatted it as internal. You can't remove it & put it in another device without formatting it. Same for for if you want to change roms potentially.
A fast sd card is also required
Apps can't be "moved" to external storage (from android 5) in the way you are suggesting. Some apps like widgets will even break if you tried
Call recording works - you shouldn't need a 3rd party app on some roms as you can just hit record from the dialer but this is rom dependant.
Try using another dialer that can record or try on lineage mint in the Dev section - you may be using a very old rom if you are following some random guide you found on the net
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s!AhCKpFOJjf6jgmmWl9eeP7QcY3Kk?e=hNnDs1 <<< one drive link
I remember moving kindle from internal to external, this is on Android 8.1. I have used two SD cards and I selected the option to format as internal storage both times.
s!AhCKpFOJjf6jgmryXVi1jRNlp1Av?e=haNOnt <<< one drive link
Is this showing the correct screen for a internally formatted SD card? It does have some apps on it including kindle, but as I said it seems to decide for itself wether it will install on the sd card or not. There is no raid like pool of storage as you can see from the 2nd screenshot.
Will the moto g5 recieve a 3rd party upgrade to Android 11?
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s!AhCKpFOJjf6jgmmWl9eeP7QcY3Kk?e=hNnDs1 <<< one drive link
I remember moving kindle from internal to external, this is on Android 8.1. I have used two SD cards and I selected the option to format as internal storage both times.
s!AhCKpFOJjf6jgmryXVi1jRNlp1Av?e=haNOnt <<< one drive link
Is this showing the correct screen for a internally formatted SD card? It does have some apps on it including kindle, but as I said it seems to decide for itself wether it will install on the sd card or not. There is no raid like pool of storage as you can see from the 2nd screenshot.
Will the moto g5 recieve a 3rd party upgrade to Android 11?
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You can't "move" apps natively to sd card - it will break many apps
Can't see screenshots as you haven't linked correctly - post full link (put spaces in address if you can't post links)
It is also up to the app where it installs in the Manifest of the app - you may find the apk is installed on internal and the data is on the sdcard
Data will be in the android/data and android/obb folder
When sdcard is formatted as internal you will see the total size of internal storage has increased
If you remove the sdcard you may find some apps will no longer function correctly so you will know its on sdcard
Also you should have selected to transfer data to sdcard when you first format it as internal
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When sdcard is formatted as internal you will see the total size of internal storage has increased
If you remove the sdcard you may find some apps will no longer function correctly so you will know its on sdcard
Also you should have selected to transfer data to sdcard when you first format it as internal
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https:// 1drv . ms /u/ s!AhCKpFOJjf6jgmmWl9eeP7QcY3Kk?e=OGLDiW
https:// 1drv . ms /u/ s!AhCKpFOJjf6jgmryXVi1jRNlp1Av?e=AMHbFw
Its just apps on the sd card. When I first installed the card, I had just performed a phone reset so there were not an third party apps installed yet.
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https:// 1drv . ms /u/ s!AhCKpFOJjf6jgmmWl9eeP7QcY3Kk?e=OGLDiW
https:// 1drv . ms /u/ s!AhCKpFOJjf6jgmryXVi1jRNlp1Av?e=AMHbFw
Its just apps on the sd card. When I first installed the card, I had just performed a phone reset so there were not an third party apps installed yet.
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Nothing wrong with those screenshots
Unfortunately this is just how android works and your device looks to be functioning correctly
If you are rooted you can use other methods to move apps to sdcard eg link2sd (requires sdcard with a second ext4 partition) but the more apps you symlink to sdcard the slower your phone may become. Make sure you link & not forcefully move as some apps like widgets will not function if forcefully moved and not symlinked to sdcard
Also note I haven't used this app in about 10years so no idea if it still functions on latest versions of android as it hasn't been updated in a few years
You will have to Google other root methods
This post documents a method of enabling Adoptable Storage with adb commands on sony phones where previously similar solutions seem hard to find. Please link similar methods if they exist somewhere else, I am curious to read.
Personal success on SO-02K (NTT DoCoMo XZ1c ) fw version 47.2.B.5.38 Android Pie, 128G A2 card.
The method results in a fraction of the microSD Card being recognised by the system to be able to transfer apps to, and another fraction where the sd card remains external storage.
The Stock Camera will only be able to save to the mentioned external storage partition after this process, and it will fail to save to internal storage.
Some apps may not work when transferred to the sd card and have to stay in onboard storage.
Premise
I carried out the process with a freshly flashed phone, with a minimal amount of apps present in the system. I cannot guarantee same success with an almost-full phone, although in principle it should be the same. If anyone has success on a more full system please let me and others know.
ADB Debugging should be turned on in developer options and authorization of PC given in advance; root or bl unlock not necessary.
SD Card will be WIPED in the process. For your data's safety do backup everything on your phone, both internal memory and external memory before proceeding! Don't yell at me if in the end it'll have to be restored.
Process
adb shell
sm list-disks this should return two integers such as 179,0
sm partition disk:179,0 mixed xx where the 179,0 should be your result in step 2 and xx be the amount of space reserved for /sdcard ; wait until command finishes. For the mixed xx see Miscellaneous#2 for explanation. Please also reply if you know the command to revert the changes made in this step, because I'd expect it be useful in the future and I don't know what it is.
Turn on force allow apps on external in bottom of developer settings if haven't done so.
Open camera app, click on OK until warnings go away, then set save directory in SD Card. Test if it saves successfully, if not, see Miscellaneous#1.
Reboot, then try moving some apps to your sd card! Some core function apps are not movable; that is to be expected.
Miscellaneous
If your camera won't allow you to open up settings (keeps saying cannot save), then you have run into a problem I have never seen before. If you can go into camera settings but the SD Card option is greyed out, that means either you have not reserved enough space in mixed xx or the command may have gone wrong. Or the card may not be in perfect condition for Adoptable Storage. You can unplug the sd card to see if the camera works fine after that, but I haven't tried that. If anyone knows the corresponding command to revert the changes made in Process#3, please let everyone know!
The mixed xx part allows a part of the sd card to remain.... an sd card. xx% of the space in your card will be recognised as external(portable) storage by your phone, and is readable by a PC. This portion will be the place where your future photos and videos are saved in, as the camera will fail saving to internal space. Thus you may want to use the fastest card you have and set xx based on your use patterns. The other part, the (100-xx) % of space is recognised by the phone as internal storage that it can put apps in, although some apps (especially some games) will still save assets in the phone's on board storage no matter where you move the main app.
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Thanks for sharing this but in my experience it does not work. I followed the guide and It looks like it worked, however now I don't understand how to move the apps away from the internal memory to exploit the new storage space provided by the SD "internal" memory... each time I try to move an app I get a "not enough memory" error message although there are about 64Gb free, no matter what app I try moving. I also noticed that deleting an app from the phone and then re-installing the app in the phone will finally install it in the SD but several apps I tried didn't work any more once re-installed in the SD storage.
indago said:
Thanks for sharing this but in my experience it does not work. I followed the guide and It looks like it worked, however now I don't understand how to move the apps away from the internal memory to exploit the new storage space provided by the SD "internal" memory... each time I try to move an app I get a "not enough memory" error message although there are about 64Gb free, no matter what app I try moving. I also noticed that deleting an app from the phone and then re-installing the app in the phone will finally install it in the SD but several apps I tried didn't work any more once re-installed in the SD storage.
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Hi and Merry Christmas!
I do get system warnings saying the phone is full while it isn't; it seems that Android freaks out a little trying to gather disk usage info when the SD card is merged with internal space. However I can move most non-system-apps.
Did you move the app with the (Press&Hold App Icon)->App Info ->Storage->Change function? I found I didn't include this part in the original writing and might have been a source of confusion. Assuming it was done in App Info, could you tell me what apps don't work, and perhaps I can try on my phone. I also wonder how much storage did you allocate to each of the two partitions on the SD card.
Another potential source of error is the card itself, in some cases, the card may have bad blocks that Android doesn't correct for and cause read problems, as my SD card now begins to show. Sometimes I wake up to see my home screen devoid of apps, and I have to reinsert and restart the phone multiple times before the SD card gets recognized by the phone again.
Did you move the app with the (Press&Hold App Icon)->App Info ->Storage->Change function?
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yes.
Assuming it was done in App Info, could you tell me what apps don't work
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all. I was not able to move any app.
I also wonder how much storage did you allocate to each of the two partitions on the SD card
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50% of 128Gb, that is 64Gb each.
Another potential source of error is the card itself
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it doesn't seem the card, since the remaining 64Gb left for external storage, that is where the camera app is saving photos and videos and some other apps save data, still works fine.
Here it is the screenshot of how Android now sees the storage configuration (android settings > storage) after I performed the procedure described above for configuring adoptable storage (writings are in Italian but I think it should be easy to understand).
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Here it is the screenshot of how Android now sees the storage configuration (android settings > storage) after I performed the procedure described above for configuring adoptable storage (writings are in Italian but I think it should be easy to understand).
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mine looks the same. I don't know what to suggest. I'll look around on other forums to see if people have the same problem.
This post is re-written from original post in Chinese which in turn is adapted from a lost post on gfan.com.
It also turns out that googling sm partition would give a lot of information most dated back to android 6.
I've been looking around as well, but was able to find only people reporting failures in enabling odoptable storage on Sony devices. However, one difference between your phone and mine is fw version: mine has 47.2.A.11.228 (no brand) - don't know if this can make any real difference.
By the way, I'm wondering whether it could be possibile to install a rarely-used app in the internal memory, then "park" the app in the SD card's external memory by moving its files, then eventually move it back to internal memory only in the case you need opening that app. If it works, it could be a trick for keeping all the apps you want "freezed" in the phone, by taking the usually unused apps in the external memory, then moving one of them in the internal memory only in the rare circumstance you need using it. Then moving it back to the external memory if you think you won't use it any more for a long period. Obviously one could simply uninstall and reinstall those rarely-used apps on occurrence, but that would take more time, consume data traffic and lose the app existing data, so I think that >IF< this kind of trick could be feasible, I'd go for it.
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I've been looking around as well, but was able to find only people reporting failures in enabling odoptable storage on Sony devices. However, one difference between your phone and mine is fw version: mine has 47.2.A.11.228 (no brand) - don't know if this can make any real difference.
By the way, I'm wondering whether it could be possibile to install a rarely-used app in the internal memory, then "park" the app in the SD card's external memory by moving its files, then eventually move it back to internal memory only in the case you need opening that app. If it works, it could be a trick for keeping all the apps you want "freezed" in the phone, by taking the usually unused apps in the external memory, then moving one of them in the internal memory only in the rare circumstance you need using it. Then moving it back to the external memory if you think you won't use it any more for a long period. Obviously one could simply uninstall and reinstall those rarely-used apps on occurrence, but that would take more time, consume data traffic and lose the app existing data, so I think that >IF< this kind of trick could be feasible, I'd go for it.
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Striking news in the new year-- my sd doesn't work now. Yesterday I checked everything worked, but now no apps installed on my sd card open. using sm list-volumes shows both internal and portable partitions on the SD are mounted, but the apps still refuse to open.
The card looks like it's corrupted, now the two partitions can't even be recognized with my card reader, I guess I'm screwed.
at my asus max m2 .... working, camera, i can move app to sd card and they still works
butttt the only thing is at settings/storage/ information; it shows numbers that dont are correct and a option "to forget sd card " ?!?!?
well i don't know.....