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Is it possible to add memory to the kindle fire.

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no but there is promise of usb otg I believe some people have been able to get it to work

I was bummed about the inability to add memory, but I've discovered some pretty cool workarounds.
For one, USB mass storage is working on several of the ICS ROMS I've tried, such as Hellfire KS and my new favorite SGT7. By using a powered USB hub and an app called "Stick Mount", I've been able to mount a 32GB flash drive. Because it requires a powered hub, it's not portable, but it's still cool to have that option.
What I like even better are some software solutions I've found which let me access my media over my wifi network, eliminating the need for physical storage:
BS Player - It's a general media player which runs many audio and video formats. Put it in LAN mode and you can browse shared folders on your PC. One really cool feature is that if you play an audio file over LAN, it can automatically add all of the other files in that folder to the playlist.
X-Plore - a really well-made dual pane file browser which can access folders via LAN and FTP. This is nice for backing up large files and such. The dual pane feature makes it super easy to transfer files from one location to the other.
Anyway, I hope that's helpful.

esteband said:
X-Plore - a really well-made dual pane file browser which can access folders via LAN and FTP. This is nice for backing up large files and such. The dual pane feature makes it super easy to transfer files from one location to the other.
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X-plore is awesome, thanks for the tip.
You can add power for OTG with a USB phone charger
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003M9Z5F6
and 2 AAs on a usb y cable and the whole arrangement will fit in your pocket, depending on how tight your pants are.

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Lotek said:
X-plore is awesome, thanks for the tip.
You can add power for OTG with a USB phone charger
<Amazon link removed>
and 2 AAs on a usb y cable and the whole arrangement will fit in your pocket, depending on how tight your pants are.
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Is a powered hub needed for any USB device? I've got an OTG cable and a thumb drive is seen by the KF (using StickMount) and I can see the files on it but the drive becomes inaccessible as soon as I try to access any files on it. It seems as if there is just enough power to fire the drive up but not enough to use it.
I like your idea of a battery pack and a Y cable. How do you have the Y cable arranged (i.e. which end of this configuration gets the base of the Y and which ends get the branches)? If you have a link to the Y cable you used that would be a tremendous help as well. I'm searching right now and there are quite a few out there.

boomshnka said:
Is a powered hub needed for any USB device? I've got an OTG cable and a thumb drive is seen by the KF (using StickMount) and I can see the files on it but the drive becomes inaccessible as soon as I try to access any files on it. It seems as if there is just enough power to fire the drive up but not enough to use it.
I like your idea of a battery pack and a Y cable. How do you have the Y cable arranged (i.e. which end of this configuration gets the base of the Y and which ends get the branches)? If you have a link to the Y cable you used that would be a tremendous help as well. I'm searching right now and there are quite a few out there.
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I followed this guy's setup, probably a member here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFEMh0ZYT5M&feature=youtu.be
Amazon links in the description.
It's pretty self explanatory when you see the y cable, there's a male end which goes to the mini USB otg adapter and the 2 forks of the Y cable end in male and female connectors, battery charger on the male and your portable hub or flash drive or whatever plugs into the female.
Power is not needed for absolutely every USB device, many keyboards work fine without it, but the majority of flash drives and all of them over 8 GB (reportedly) require it.

Thanks Lotek. That's perfect. Can't wait to get this all setup now.

Connect 320GB external HDD to ONE X

Hello everyone,
I want to connect my 320GB USB HDD with HTC One X. Is it possible via OTG?

fabler said:
Hello everyone,
I want to connect my 320GB USB HDD with HTC One X. Is it possible via OTG?
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If the USB HDD has external power, it should be possible i guess.

My 1TB WD External HDD doesn't work.

xmoo said:
If the USB HDD has external power, it should be possible i guess.
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No. It doesn't have external power supply.

xman_here said:
My 1TB WD External HDD doesn't work.
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Is it due to higher capacity of the driver or something else?

It should work no matter what the size is,
if it shows as "corrupt", it means you should partition the HDD as GPT Data (not MBR),
if it shows as "blank or unsupported" that means you should use a mounting app for NTFS type
(i personally prefer Stickmount, because of the easy unmounting option from notification bar)
if it doesn't show any notification, then either your kernel doesn't support it, or you connected it incorrectly(depending on your hardware)*
*connect OTG to power supply, then OTG to Phone, then HDD to the setup(for 500GB HDD it takes around 5 secs to mount)
Note: not sure if stickmount requires root or not but FAT32 should always work without additional software.

Vcek said:
It should work no matter what the size is,
if it shows as "corrupt", it means you should partition the HDD as GPT Data (not MBR),
if it shows as "blank or unsupported" that means you should use a mounting app for NTFS type
(i personally prefer Stickmount, because of the easy unmounting option from notification bar)
if it doesn't show any notification, then either your kernel doesn't support it, or you connected it incorrectly(depending on your hardware)*
*connect OTG to power supply, then OTG to Phone, then HDD to the setup(for 500GB HDD it takes around 5 secs to mount)
Note: not sure if stickmount requires root or not but FAT32 should always work without additional software.
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Alright. And what if my HDD don't have external power supply support?

fabler said:
Alright. And what if my HDD don't have external power supply support?
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All usb devices have external power support, as long as you have the split cable.(the thin usb split is the power connector)
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Vcek said:
All usb devices have external power support, as long as you have the split cable.(the thin usb split is the power connector)
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Thanks for the information mate. I think I'm gonna have to buy that cable. Coz my current HDD cable doesn't have external power supply support.

[Q] Does the Fire TV support USB storage/powered USB splitters?

Just a quick question for anyone who already received their Fire TV (Mine will be here Wednesday hopefully)
I see that people have had success in getting everything from mice/keyboards/etc working with their Fire TV, but I'm curious if powered USB hubs and external USB drives work as well.
Ultimately I'd like to have something along the lines of a USB keyboard/mouse as well as an XB360 controller, as well as a USB slot that I can throw some media on if I have a friend over who doesn't want to set up their machine/share on my network and we can still watch something through either XBMC or Plex.

TooSlo said:
Just a quick question for anyone who already received their Fire TV (Mine will be here Wednesday hopefully)
I see that people have had success in getting everything from mice/keyboards/etc working with their Fire TV, but I'm curious if powered USB hubs and external USB drives work as well.
Ultimately I'd like to have something along the lines of a USB keyboard/mouse as well as an XB360 controller, as well as a USB slot that I can throw some media on if I have a friend over who doesn't want to set up their machine/share on my network and we can still watch something through either XBMC or Plex.
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I was able to plug in a USB 3 hub, unpowered, and used a keyboard and mouse at the same time.

rooobbbbb said:
I was able to plug in a USB 3 hub, unpowered, and used a keyboard and mouse at the same time.
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With a non powered usb hub I was able to hook up a mouse,keyboard,wired 360 controller. Hopefully that answers your question

What about USB storage? Can you guys read movies files from a flash drive or USB hard drive?
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no drive support yet, hoping someone can figure out how to enable it

movie
Hi
Can we watch some avi mkv mpeg movie on firetv directy on usb key?

saerdryl2 said:
Hi
Can we watch some avi mkv mpeg movie on firetv directy on usb key?
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saerdryl2,
Please take the minimal amount of time to read the responses from others as this has been answered... Most recently right above your post:
screwyluie said:
no drive support yet, hoping someone can figure out how to enable it
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Ordered an Ouya that hasn't arrived yet and considering return/refuse.
Does anyone have any information for the future of FTV USB storage?
ie:
Is it not possible with the current hardware?
Is it a feature that is under development and will likely be enabled in the near future?

i8nt said:
Ordered an Ouya that hasn't arrived yet and considering return/refuse.
Does anyone have any information for the future of FTV USB storage?
ie:
Is it not possible with the current hardware?
Is it a feature that is under development and will likely be enabled in the near future?
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Most likely not a hardware issue, but the software distributed with the device by Amazon does not support it. I think they want you to use their cloud services instead.
Most likely fixable once Root is available, but currently there is no distributed Root available yet. Most likely will see Root available after the device gets 4.43 updates.

Thanks, the hdd is a must have for Mashup's direct download, instead of using a dvr.
Since I got the Ouya on the cheap, will probably keep it for now.

I see the xbmc wiki says usb storage can be enabled with root.
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Confirmed it's working. Just root + sideload StickMount.
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nadimsoze said:
Confirmed it's working. Just root + sideload StickMount.
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So, just to confirm, you are using a USB Hub to get all three USB items? Keyboard/mouse, controller AND external storage?
need to get that last part clear..

Nope. Didn't try that. Just the 2.5" usb 500gb external.
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Vylle said:
So, just to confirm, you are using a USB Hub to get all three USB items? Keyboard/mouse, controller AND external storage?
need to get that last part clear..
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I have a simple 4 port unpowered USB 2.0 hub connected to my Fire TV at all times. In that hub is a 64GB NTFS thumb drive at all times that is mounted via StickMount on boot. When I need to, I plug a USB mouse and keyboard into two of the 3 open USB ports on the hub. Everything works with all 3 devices plugged into the hub. I hope that's the info you're looking for.

fireTVnews.com said:
I have a simple 4 port unpowered USB 2.0 hub connected to my Fire TV at all times. In that hub is a 64GB NTFS thumb drive at all times that is mounted via StickMount on boot. When I need to, I plug a USB mouse and keyboard into two of the 3 open USB ports on the hub. Everything works with all 3 devices plugged into the hub. I hope that's the info you're looking for.
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thanks - this is all i need to know
now to go off to amazon n get one

Which usb hub are you using? I'd like to order one from Amazon, along with a 128GB stick.
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I have a simple 4 port unpowered USB 2.0 hub connected to my Fire TV at all times. In that hub is a 64GB NTFS thumb drive at all times that is mounted via StickMount on boot. When I need to, I plug a USB mouse and keyboard into two of the 3 open USB ports on the hub. Everything works with all 3 devices plugged into the hub. I hope that's the info you're looking for.
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I don't know if that's disk related, but I have an old LaCia external 2.5" 500Gb HDD. It has a regular USB2 port and an additional 5V in which can be used optionally (if attached to the computer, it works with just the USB).
With the AFTV, I had to use the additional 5V.
A friend of mine is having the same issue with his external HDD, the power from AFTV is not enough

Hi,
I read that Fire TV doesn't support USB storage, but I believe it does although I've not been able to access a drive (plugged in to powered hub) yet. So far using sideloaded es file explorer I can see the USB device and alongside it the drop down button which when clicked seems to unmount the drive. Looking in the dmesg log (familiar to Linux users I'm sure) the kernel loads appropriate USB driver module and the recognises the USB storage the device as /dev/sda with partition sda1. There is also an entry in the list of mount points for /storage/usb, but it seems to point to 'tmp, tmp' which doesn't make much sense to me. It seems to me the only thing missing is automount of the recognised partition, does anyone agree or disagree? Does anyone know a way of mounting on an uprooted device (l'm on the latest update and would prefer not rooting unless unavoidable).

I've been using this one without issue: http://goo.gl/yXFV9o

[Q] Connect to card reader and external hard drive?

I'm wondering if it's possible to connect a card reader device AND an external hard drive to my Nexus 7 for the sole purpose of transferring FROM card reader TO hard drive?
I'm thinking I would need:
- USB OTG cable
- Powered USB hub?
- USB card reader
- USB hard drive
would it work? How fast would it likely transfer, say 4gb?

Kaitlyn2004 said:
I'm wondering if it's possible to connect a card reader device AND an external hard drive to my Nexus 7 for the sole purpose of transferring FROM card reader TO hard drive?
I'm thinking I would need:
- USB OTG cable
- Powered USB hub?
- USB card reader
- USB hard drive
would it work? How fast would it likely transfer, say 4gb?
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I've never tried anything like that but what little I know I think you need to be rooted and use an app called StickMount which requires root to work. And I think you will need a custom kernel to have NTFS and exFAT support. I use the ElementalX kernel which has NTFS and exFAT support but most if not all custom kernels probably have that support also. Transfer speed probably wouldn't be that great because I think the bootleneck would be the speed class of the memory card. I would be surprised to see speeds higher than 20-30 MB/s. Hopefully someone more knowledgeable in doing what your trying to do will jump in here and enlighten both of us!

Kaitlyn2004 said:
I'm wondering if it's possible to connect a card reader device AND an external hard drive to my Nexus 7 for the sole purpose of transferring FROM card reader TO hard drive?
I'm thinking I would need:
- USB OTG cable
- Powered USB hub?
- USB card reader
- USB hard drive
would it work? How fast would it likely transfer, say 4gb?
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yes it can be done I use flash drives all the time. I also hook up my seagate 1tb backup to my nexus 5&7. you will only need an otg cable or adapter. a hub if you intend to use a keyboard and mouse. ive never done that but have heard of it being done. im runnig cyanogen on these devices however ive used usb card readers and a 64 gb 3.0 flash on my m8 full stock. 4.4 will accept external usb ive read. just try it you"ll like it

[Q] How to use USB Micro Thumb drive as external storage

Giving my 10 year old girl a Nexus 7 2013 for Christmas. Want to load up a dual usb thumb drive (usb and miscro usb) with all her movies. How can i get the Nexus 7 to recognize the thumb drive? The steps need to be easy for my girl. Will probably install VLC to play the videos. Would like to play them directly from the thumb drive. Will root if needed, but prefer not to. But then again, it is most important that it is simple to plug in the thumb, find the movies, and play them.

Just root. ES File Explorer will see the drives. All you need is the adapter. If you have memory cards, get a meenova
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Mine isn't rooted, but ES file explorer and nexus media importer are still working with such thumbs as well

So after I root I will not need Stickman (or Stickmount?, whatever is the app name?). What is the easiest way to root? I am a computer programmer but have never rooted a device. Must say that I have found it sort of confusing when looking that the various tutorials.

You don't need to root. Nexus 7 comes with USB OTG out of the box. Get an OTG cable, plug in to the Nexus, plug in the thumb drive, it will load up. Should give you a notification once connected. You can download a file browser that you can set a home directory in, and set it as external storage.

SwoRNLeaDejZ said:
You don't need to root. Nexus 7 comes with USB OTG out of the box. Get an OTG cable, plug in to the Nexus, plug in the thumb drive, it will load up. Should give you a notification once connected. You can download a file browser that you can set a home directory in, and set it as external storage.
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Do I need a cable. can't I just use a micro usb thumb drive?

That would probably work just the same. I was just speaking from experience and having an otg cable let's you use anything like a mouse, keyboard, etc. I just know that the thumb drive I had, I plugged it in with an otg cable and the Nexus immediately recognized it. There are a bunch of good file managers out there with the ability to set a home directory as well.
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Also, if your Nexus, for whatever reason, doesn't recognize the drive, all you have to do is flash a kernel with otg support, which all the popular ones have.

thebrenda said:
Do I need a cable. can't I just use a micro usb thumb drive?
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No, if you have thumb drive with micro USB port it should be enough

I've had no issues with my 64gb SanDisk Dual USB stick. Just plug it into the microUSB port and use ES Explorer if it's formatted in NTFS or FAT32. I have to use StickMount because I left my stick formatted in exFAT.

Which ES File Explorer is everyone referencing? I went to google play and found two, one has a thumbnail of a blue folder and blue ES3 in a white cloud. The other one has a blue folder with white ES in a green circle.

Definitely not the one with the green circle.

nhizzat said:
Definitely not the one with the green circle.
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+1
Green circle = bad

thebrenda said:
Which ES File Explorer is everyone referencing? I went to google play and found two, one has a thumbnail of a blue folder and blue ES3 in a white cloud. The other one has a blue folder with white ES in a green circle.
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.estrongs.android.pop&hl=en
the one with the green circle is a very old one made for 1.5 cupcake