Hey Everyone-
Hope you all have been enjoying the videos. This video takes a look at a generic desktop charging dock made for the HTC One M8 but happens to work perfectly with the OnePlus One. Thanks to @hka148 for bringing this to my attention.
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EDIT - There is a use for the USB port on the back of the dock. It can be used to charge a secondary device such as a bluetooth headset or a tablet while your device is being charged in the cradle.
Hey KP, thanks for all the videos you have been doing for us. Just a thought about that USB plug in the back that you did not know what it was for. Maybe it allows you to hook up a power source to charge the phone with a regular male USB input cord in case you don't have a micro-USB connecting cord?
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Can you use the USB output and short cable to charge the phone? I'm guessing the idea is so you can put your phone in landscape (horizontally) and charge at the same time.
Thanks for the video anyway!
You read my mind. Was planning to get this but thanks for showing it in action with a TPU case on it.
drmacrofish said:
Hey KP, thanks for all the videos you have been doing for us. Just a thought about that USB plug in the back that you did not know what it was for. Maybe it allows you to hook up a power source to charge the phone with a regular male USB input cord in case you don't have a micro-USB connecting cord?
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hmmmm .... maybe! I'm trying to think of anything in my toys where i could arrange what would essentially be male usb to male usb power. Hell, i don't even own a male usb to male usb cable
If i had a male usb to male usb cable i'd probably try using AC as the micro usb power source hook the power the USB port up to a USB port on a PC to see if that functions for data exchange between the devices.
tomaquet said:
Can you use the USB output and short cable to charge the phone? I'm guessing the idea is so you can put your phone in landscape (horizontally) and charge at the same time.
Thanks for the video anyway!
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I don't think that would work, i mean putting the phone in the dock in landscape. Remember the channel where you place your phone has a male micro USB connector sticking up in the middle of it. If you turn your phone sideways then that micro USB connector has nowhere to go so you'd be trying to balance you're phone on it sideways which i don't think would work.
What you may be onto though is the fact that it could function as a second charging source so your phone could be in the dock in portrait orientation and you could charge a second device (like a bluetooth headset) via the USB port.
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I don't think that would work, i mean putting the phone in the dock in landscape. Remember the channel where you place your phone has a male micro USB connector sticking up in the middle of it. If you turn your phone sideways then that micro USB connector has nowhere to go so you'd be trying to balance you're phone on it sideways which i don't think would work.
What you may be onto though is the fact that it could function as a second charging source so your phone could be in the dock in portrait orientation and you could charge a second device (like a bluetooth headset) via the USB port.
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If you put the bit of removable bit of plastic upside down, can you put the phone back in landscape so it's not touching the micro usb ? or is the lip too small then?
*EDIT* Just watched the video again and the removable plastic is flush so there wont be any lip if you put it in upside down.
tomaquet said:
If you put the bit of removable bit of plastic upside down, can you put the phone back in landscape so it's not touching the micro usb ? or is the lip too small then?
*EDIT* Just watched the video again and the removable plastic is flush so there wont be any lip if you put it in upside down.
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They should have hired you to help them with the design because that makes sense!! but no, unfortunately it wouldn't work. I like that thought process though
There is a use for the USB port on the back of the dock. It can be used to charge a secondary device such as a bluetooth headset or a tablet while your device is being charged in the cradle.
KSmithInNY said:
There is a use for the USB port on the back of the dock. It can be used to charge a secondary device such as a bluetooth headset or a tablet while your device is being charged in the cradle.
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Cool I'll actually use that. I have a Bluetooth headset that sits right next to where I'll have the dock.
what about the speakers?
that dock dont block them ?
I just recieved my dock which i got on your review, and first of, the usb port is wrong way , i had to open it up and turn it around, but doing so i found out how cheap and flimsy the unit is..i cannot get phone to sit on it enough to get a connection and if you take out insert to use with case, you may find the usb end coming out with the plactic it sits in as it is not actually secured in with anything ...mine is now in the trash some 30 mins after opening it...my recommendation......dont bother
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I'm using an adjustable car mount from proclip that holds my phone really nicely in my truck, and I've got a 1000mA USB car adapter that charges the phone really well with a standard USB cable.
My question is about getting the phone to go into car mode when I plug it in. I've read some posts that say shorting the data pins together in the USB cable will make the phone see it as a car charger. Has anyone had any luck making a cable like this? Does it work? Is there anywhere where I can buy one for cheap?
I believe that you can set a profile in Tasker to have car mode enabled whenever AC, USB or both are present.
gtg252b said:
I'm using an adjustable car mount from proclip that holds my phone really nicely in my truck, and I've got a 1000mA USB car adapter that charges the phone really well with a standard USB cable.
My question is about getting the phone to go into car mode when I plug it in. I've read some posts that say shorting the data pins together in the USB cable will make the phone see it as a car charger. Has anyone had any luck making a cable like this? Does it work? Is there anywhere where I can buy one for cheap?
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I've made a cable that does this. I had to buy parts in bulk so I'm listing the rest of them in the XDA market: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=784379.
@Davpel - That might work, but then wouldn't it go into car mode whenever I plugged it in elsewhere too?
@ForceO - Sounds nice, but I can't get into the market... I don't think I have enough posts yet. Can you PM me the info?
Using tasker to run car mode will not run car mode every time you plug your phone into a usb charger, if you download the power plug profile from the tasker wiki and install it. When you plug your phone, your phone will ask you if you want car, home or night mode. Pick car mode and tasker will run whatever car dock program you want. I use Custom car home.
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ForceOnature has the ticket, that's it, ground pin 4 on the micro usb.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtube_gdata_player&v=0VtDyFbNFLU
It's pretty easy to make, just take a grinder to a micro usb cable, then pick the extra plastic off with your fingers, then solder a jumper between pins 4 and 5, that part can be tricky because of the size of the tab you need to solder to....patience is key.
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dabigcheezze said:
It's pretty easy to make, just take a grinder to a micro usb cable, then pick the extra plastic off with your fingers, then solder a jumper between pins 4 and 5, that part can be tricky because of the size of the tab you need to solder to....patience is key.
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I tried the Dremel route and it was definitely not easy. Ended up having to abort and make my own from scratch because the plastic/epoxy stuff used to fill in under the black rubber shell was too hard to remove and still leave the pins intact.
Folks....
I have a question about the pin out of a USB cable. I have a cable that has a micro USB connector at one end (it plugs into my HTC EVO) and the other end is a standard USB connector.
This cable works just fine when I charge my HTC EVO. However, my computers can not see my htc evo. So I installed software from Sprint called "HTC Sync" version 3 something. Nothing.
So here is my question. Are USB cables that are sold as "Sync" cables have a different pin out than a USB cable that is used for power?
Maybe I need to change a setting in my phone to make it sync?
In settings, under Connect to PC, I have it set up as:
Default Connect Type = HTC Sync
Ask me is checked
I also tried:
Default Connect type = Disk drive
Ask me is checked
Can some of you give me some advice?
Thanks
jack
Portland Oregon
I can't speak on usb pins but I do know that there are some shoddy low quality usb cables out there (the ones that come with epic 4g) and some good high quality ones (the ones that come with the palm pre). with the low quality ones I can't copy files to my card.
In general, unless it's sold as a power cable, it should have the normal connections. Some cables have the data lines cut and shorted together, which tells the phone it can draw more power than a normal USB port provides. These should only be used with chargers due to the risk of burning out a PC's USB port.
A good way to test is to plug it in, open Spare Parts and go to Battery Information, then see if it says it's charging on AC.
Not all usb cables are created equally.
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Noxious Ninja said:
In general, unless it's sold as a power cable, it should have the normal connections. Some cables have the data lines cut and shorted together, which tells the phone it can draw more power than a normal USB port provides.
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Ahhh. OK. Thank you.
jack
USB Cable Charging but not Sync
Some cables do not have hooks and they are loose in phone. This also prevent to connect it with PC for sync.
Noxious Ninja said:
In general, unless it's sold as a power cable, it should have the normal connections. Some cables have the data lines cut and shorted together, which tells the phone it can draw more power than a normal USB port provides. These should only be used with chargers due to the risk of burning out a PC's USB port.
A good way to test is to plug it in, open Spare Parts and go to Battery Information, then see if it says it's charging on AC.
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Excellent info.
RTC88 said:
Not all usb cables are created equally.
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Not so much.
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Look sturdy but break too easily. Not as cheap as most chinese made but these cables usually break in about 2 months for me. Dont even think about folding it and putting it in a bag for those frail,dying HTC phones.
I wonder if these are easy to fix...
-Can anyone recommend a simple way to handle these wires or a more durable wire? I dont want to buy one every month. I'm thinking about http://www.amazon.com/Micro-Retractable-Cable-Samsung-Vibrant/dp/B004SK35M8/ref=sr_1_19?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1328931599&sr=1-19.
I herd with root and some roms
I herd with root and some roms sync wont work .. make sure u have all the right drivers and ..Ive had a cavle that would work for mass storage for one phone and not another...
It's got USB, although the charging looks a little scary.
Anyone tried this one or tried any of this company's docks? They all seem to be built similarly.
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-AC-USB-CHARGER-SYNC-CRADLE-DOCK-MOTOROLA-XOOM-/350466869946
I have it.
After buy: You can't use it with your gel case, or something like that, you have to connect it alone.
It's dificult to connect it right.
It isn't like the one of motorola, this one it's less stable, i think.
BUT:
Its work for what it designed to.
Usb and Power both cables work right.
If you can buy and OTG with mini usb you win
PS Sorry for my english.
PS2. I have it, right now its connected to my computer
I don't like the fact that it looks like you could accidentally inject 12v DC into the USB port by plugging the power into the wrong mini USB socket. If it had a coaxial power plug I'd be all over it, but since I added a usbotg cable to my stock zoom cradle I don't think I'll be getting one.
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i dont even know how that would work, it must charge it brutally slow since it's mini usb...
it looks like a 12v plug with a mini usb plug on the end of it.
I've had that dock wishlisted for a while.
@lfiuse
Thanks for the quick review. Are the ports at the back clearly marked for power and USB? Like zn706, I'd hate to plug the power adapter into the usb port...
OTG would be nice...
I bought these on ebay. The HDMI is short but worked but when I connect both cables to lapdock, the USB is not being recognized so the keyboard/mouse is not working. I want this just to act as an extension so I can use full lapdock abilities with cables. Any idea what's going on (cable charges on plug but does not charge on lapdock)? Maybe someone has better usb cables.
fixed the link:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/29059482363...X:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649#ht_3046wt_1508
http://www.ebay.com/itm/36042990934...X:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649#ht_2333wt_1010
links appear to be broken...
From your title I've been looking for these (or similar) cables for a long time and have been unsuccessful. However I have yet to try them.
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/29059482363...X:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649#ht_3046wt_1508
http://www.ebay.com/itm/36042990934...X:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649#ht_2333wt_1010
i don't think it will work either way, tried a few things like this with no avail.
why wouldn't they? Cheap build quality that doesn't include the data wires? Hell I'll be willing to splice two cables together to get our desired effect, the only problem is that cords with a female micro usb are incredibly hard to come by
So that is what you think it is? No data on the usb cables.
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mamoranto said:
So that is what you think it is? No data on the usb cables.
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the only reason that is my suspicion is because there are many "charging" products out there that don't really need data. Why there would be a need for such a small charging extension cable is beyond me, but it's the only solution I can think of, but I have no way of confirming or denying it either. The ebay descriptions seem to imply that the data wires are there, but we all know how reliable ebay can be...
Another idea I had was that it might be sensing the resistance in the cable, since, if I remember correctly, that was how some think/though the car dock puts the atrix into car mode without a magnet as is/was commonly used. Again these are just ideas.
Or the cable is just so poorly made that it's defective...I honestly have no clue
Has anyone got full lapdock capabilities using extension cables? I can only get the screen working and not the mouse and keyboard.
The HDMI extender was the hard one to find. There are other micro USB extenders out there, theoretically with all wires connected....
http://www.usbfirewire.com/uextendmicrob.html
Kind of makes me wish i hadn't hacked up my lapdock to work with the Otterbox
Where did you get your HDMI extender? I got mine from All4Cellular but it's quite short. Will have to get another HDMI one if the usb cable you recommended works.
mamoranto said:
Where did you get your HDMI extender? I got mine from All4Cellular but it's quite short. Will have to get another HDMI one if the usb cable you recommended works.
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If you're asking me, i didn't. I was referring to the ebay link in the third post.
grevedan said:
The HDMI extender was the hard one to find. There are other micro USB extenders out there, theoretically with all wires connected....
http://www.usbfirewire.com/uextendmicrob.html
Kind of makes me wish i hadn't hacked up my webtop to work with the Otterbox
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before I read that post, I was looking around the forums and the web yesterday well into the night. here are some of the things I've found that might be relevant to everyone (and it might possibly be cheaper, though more diy).
Micro USB stuff:
I have no idea why this exists http://www.dealextreme.com/p/micro-...r-cable-for-blackberry-9900-black-30cm-107901
I have no idea why this only has 4 pins http://www.sparkfun.com/products/9614
http://www.sparkfun.com/products/10031
mamoranto said:
Where did you get your HDMI extender? I got mine from All4Cellular but it's quite short. Will have to get another HDMI one if the usb cable you recommended works.
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Here's what I am thinking about doing:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/140626354628#ht_2821wt_1177 or http://www.ebay.com/itm/Micro-HDMI-...ultDomain_0&hash=item415eac6dc0#ht_2821wt_980
http://www.amazon.com/HDMI-Female-M...YPB4/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1329854686&sr=8-2
then the hdmi cable that came with our phone:
http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Stan...QTA8/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1329854856&sr=8-8
The HDMI certainly looks like it may work but the reason I didn't buy that product from ebay a few weeks ago was because it was $50. Now miraculously, it's only $6. Maybe I'll get that if the USB cable I just bought that was suggested works a few posts back.
misiek93 said:
why wouldn't they? Cheap build quality that doesn't include the data wires? Hell I'll be willing to splice two cables together to get our desired effect, the only problem is that cords with a female micro usb are incredibly hard to come by
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This micro usb extension cord explicitly states that all 5 wires are connected (compatible with droid bionic for the purpose of docking with a case on the phone):
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Micro-USB-E...395?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item335d13272b
I bought the HDMI extension cable and the USB cable above. I have a lapdock so I'll post if it works.
everything asked/answered in here is already covered in the original thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1376679
robrj said:
This micro usb extension cord explicitly states that all 5 wires are connected (compatible with droid bionic for the purpose of docking with a case on the phone):
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Micro-USB-E...395?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item335d13272b
I bought the HDMI extension cable and the USB cable above. I have a lapdock so I'll post if it works.
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The HDMI cable seems to work. On the lapdock, with just the HDMI cable hooked up, it functions like it was it's an entertainment center.
The USB cord will need to be modified a little bit. I can't get it to seat right on the USB jack of the dock. I'll need to shave it down a bit as it doesn't sit down snugly.
robrj said:
The HDMI cable seems to work. On the lapdock, with just the HDMI cable hooked up, it functions like it was it's an entertainment center.
The USB cord will need to be modified a little bit. I can't get it to seat right on the USB jack of the dock. I'll need to shave it down a bit as it doesn't sit down snugly.
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I ordered the USB cable and experience this same problem, though I am waiting for my hdmi parts to come in (by April 6th I should have all my parts...). The cable itself works flawlessly as a micro usb extension cable when connecting it to the computer.
again as mentioned in the other thread, you want to be careful with the 5v coming out that micro hdmi port. for connecting back to your phone would be no issue, as the phone charges using this voltage, but hooking the lapdocks micro usb up to a host device probably wont appreciate the 5v coming back up the cable, where normally the usb device would be pulling power from said host, not providing it.
one suggestion is to just clip the red wire inside your micro usb cable/adapter.
btw the adapters i use do fit snugly side by side, without modification.
I've been following this thread for a little while now, and I wanted to share something I found.
I was looking at the Motorola Travel Webtop adapter. And I was curious to see whether it could be tweaked to suite our needs. I naively thought/hoped that I could flip the connectors in the device to make a small adapter to connect the Atrix to newer Lapdocks. Unfortunately as you can see in the pictures below (sorry not enough posts to link to the pictures) the two connectors are connected via a PCB not wires or a ribbon cable. Although I still have high hopes that I can de-solder the HDMI and USB connectors, and use a small length of flat ribbon cable to connect them and then re-positions the connectors in the case, to build a micro adapter to use the Atrix on the newer Lapdocks. Should this fail this will at least prevent others from making the same mistake, and solve the mystery of what's really inside the Webtop Travel adapter.
Do any one know if this Micro HDMI Cable would work for Lapdock.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-Feet-HDMI...s_Adapters&hash=item416612cecb#ht_1149wt_1187
Description says for Asus tf201 MEMO ME171.
I believe all Cables are standard. Can this used to Atrix 4g with Lapdock?
I have otterbox case for Atrix and don't want to Remove cover everytime to plug in Lapdock.
Here's to let everyone know that dex on the Note 10 works with the old Atrix lapdock very well
In case anyone has one lying around and wants to see it in action, you would want the following accessories:
1. USB-C to HDMI adapter ( I opted for 1 with HDMI, USB 3.0 & USB-C in for power )
2. micro HDMI to HDMI cable
3. Female micro HDMI to Female micro HDMI adapter
Optional:
1. Modified USB A to micro USB cable ( more on this later )
2. Female micro USB to Female micro USB adapter
3. USB Cable + Charger to charge your phone
If all you want is to bring up dex on your lapdock, all you need are the HDMI connectors. You will want to use a Bluetooth keyboard & mouse to navigate dex and will not be able to charge your phone.
Going 1 step further, you can use a multi-function USB-C adapter with HDMI, USB OTG & USB in for power.
Here, you would modify a usb cable to give you access to the lapdock keyboard & mousepad. The lapdock was designed to be an all-in-one setup with the Atrix phone, so the 10 hour battery could also charge the Atrix. <-- That's our problem. So you will need to snip the RED wire in the usb cable to prevent the lapdock from potentially frying your phone or other devices.
Theoretically, you can charge the phone using the 2 usb ports on the back of the lapdock, but it's a trickle effect. It'll take forever and you won't be happy. I did it in a pinch & running any applications under dex still consumed my phone's battery. Plugging it into a charger, though, kept my phone @ 100%.
A big caveat here is the mousepad is NOT multitouch, so I still used my bluetooth mouse for the scroll wheel.
Here's where this becomes a lot of fun... the lapdock screen is great for running emulators in a decent window. I plugged in my shield gamepad with a usb cable into the back of my lapdock and was able to play pretty much anything I wanted to. Still plugged into an outlet kept the phone @ 100% while emulating 100%+ speeds.
The larger screen is also very nice for streaming tv/movies.
There is an option in the Dex control panel to output audio through the HDMI cable, so you aren't relying on your phone for audio.
Anyway, if you have one of these gems lying around, it's a great way to extend the value of this phone.
ycavan said:
Here's to let everyone know that dex on the Note 10 works with the old Atrix lapdock very well
In case anyone has one lying around and wants to see it in action, you would want the following accessories:
1. USB-C to HDMI adapter ( I opted for 1 with HDMI, USB 3.0 & USB-C in for power )
2. micro HDMI to HDMI cable
3. Female micro HDMI to Female micro HDMI adapter
Optional:
1. Modified USB A to micro USB cable ( more on this later )
2. Female micro USB to Female micro USB adapter
3. USB Cable + Charger to charge your phone
If all you want is to bring up dex on your lapdock, all you need are the HDMI connectors. You will want to use a Bluetooth keyboard & mouse to navigate dex and will not be able to charge your phone.
Going 1 step further, you can use a multi-function USB-C adapter with HDMI, USB OTG & USB in for power.
Here, you would modify a usb cable to give you access to the lapdock keyboard & mousepad. The lapdock was designed to be an all-in-one setup with the Atrix phone, so the 10 hour battery could also charge the Atrix. <-- That's our problem. So you will need to snip the RED wire in the usb cable to prevent the lapdock from potentially frying your phone or other devices.
Theoretically, you can charge the phone using the 2 usb ports on the back of the lapdock, but it's a trickle effect. It'll take forever and you won't be happy. I did it in a pinch & running any applications under dex still consumed my phone's battery. Plugging it into a charger, though, kept my phone @ 100%.
A big caveat here is the mousepad is NOT multitouch, so I still used my bluetooth mouse for the scroll wheel.
Here's where this becomes a lot of fun... the lapdock screen is great for running emulators in a decent window. I plugged in my shield gamepad with a usb cable into the back of my lapdock and was able to play pretty much anything I wanted to. Still plugged into an outlet kept the phone @ 100% while emulating 100%+ speeds.
The larger screen is also very nice for streaming tv/movies.
There is an option in the Dex control panel to output audio through the HDMI cable, so you aren't relying on your phone for audio.
Anyway, if you have one of these gems lying around, it's a great way to extend the value of this phone.
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Annoyingly I have a Atrix lapdock but I'm not confident about the rewiring so found a good discounted HP Elite X3 lapdock. Only if someone sold the full cable and adaptor package on eBay for the Atrix
haha, it sounds more complicated than it actually is
just remember that the RED cable in the micro usb cables is power, so that's the only one that needs cutting. What I did was:
1. cut the usb cable in half
2. strip a little bit of the non-RED cables and twisted them together.
3. use electrical tape to cover each of the re-attached cables.
4. pull the red leads back onto the black sheathe
5. use electrical tape to go over the junction between the 2 halves of the cable.
All of the other components are things that are easy to order online, Amazon.
ycavan said:
haha, it sounds more complicated than it actually is
just remember that the RED cable in the micro usb cables is power, so that's the only one that needs cutting. What I did was:
1. cut the usb cable in half
2. strip a little bit of the non-RED cables and twisted them together.
3. use electrical tape to cover each of the re-attached cables.
4. pull the red leads back onto the black sheathe
5. use electrical tape to go over the junction between the 2 halves of the cable.
All of the other components are things that are easy to order online, Amazon.
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Okay I'll order cables and have a go!
Please confirm the 3rd item in your list is a micro hdmi female to micro hdmi female as elsewhere I have seen micro female to standard female. Thanks
jah said:
Okay I'll order cables and have a go!
Please confirm the 3rd item in your list is a micro hdmi female to micro hdmi female as elsewhere I have seen micro female to standard female. Thanks
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Yes, I use a micro hdmi female to female adapter for my micro hdmi male to normal hdmi male cable.
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My take on these DeX apps is straightforward: they’re not great. If you just use them for simple tasks like texting, copying and pasting small bits of text, or dragging and dropping a file or two, it’s fine. Pushing any harder than that is likely to be a recipe for sorrow, however, as things tend to get laggy pretty quickly. I think that’s more the fault of the desktop software than the phone’s hardware, but regardless, it’s slightly disappointing.
I don’t think that’s a reason to avoid buying the Note 10, which is still an excellent phone. But the experience did get me thinking: why did I and so many others have the objectively irrational hope that DeX would unlock new ways of interacting with your phone?
I think it’s because the idea of making a sole computer sits right next to flying cars in the “this is what the future will be” section of our collective unconsciousness.
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My take on these DeX apps is straightforward: they’re not great. If you just use them for simple tasks like texting, copying and pasting small bits of text, or dragging and dropping a file or two, it’s fine. Pushing any harder than that is likely to be a recipe for sorrow, however, as things tend to get laggy pretty quickly. I think that’s more the fault of the desktop software than the phone’s hardware, but regardless, it’s slightly disappointing.
I don’t think that’s a reason to avoid buying the Note 10, which is still an excellent phone. But the experience did get me thinking: why did I and so many others have the objectively irrational hope that DeX would unlock new ways of interacting with your phone?
I think it’s because the idea of making a sole computer sits right next to flying cars in the “this is what the future will be” section of our collective unconsciousness.
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Also if you can run DeX well on a lapdock, you may not need a Samsung Tab S6!.
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My take on these DeX apps is straightforward: they’re not great. If you just use them for simple tasks like texting, copying and pasting small bits of text, or dragging and dropping a file or two, it’s fine. Pushing any harder than that is likely to be a recipe for sorrow, however, as things tend to get laggy pretty quickly. I think that’s more the fault of the desktop software than the phone’s hardware, but regardless, it’s slightly disappointing.
I don’t think that’s a reason to avoid buying the Note 10, which is still an excellent phone. But the experience did get me thinking: why did I and so many others have the objectively irrational hope that DeX would unlock new ways of interacting with your phone?
I think it’s because the idea of making a sole computer sits right next to flying cars in the “this is what the future will be” section of our collective unconsciousness.
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I use DeX with my lapdock instead of my "real" laptop a lot of the time. My emails are on my phone, contacts are on my phone, pretty much all of the gaming apps I use are on my phone. The only time I ever really need my laptop is to play high end games that aren't ported to Android. Now, if only LoD would come out for the note10... :/
Does the Note 10 support the old 1366x768 resolution on the Atrix Lapdock? I remember getting it going on my Note 8 and it's not a supported resolution leading to really unusable low-res blocky everything on the screen.
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Does the Note 10 support the old 1366x768 resolution on the Atrix Lapdock? I remember getting it going on my Note 8 and it's not a supported resolution leading to really unusable low-res blocky everything on the screen.
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Yup.
Okay, managed to get my old Motorola Atrix working with my Note 10+. Took a different route to the one described above as the female to female couplers are not easy to source. So I used the Rasberry PI cables for the Atrix and my Samsung Note 8 Dex hub, which was free with the Note 8. But I have to use a BT mouse. Otherwise a good solution. But I would recommend the HP Elite X3 lapdock instead if there is not much a price difference on eBay.
ycavan said:
Here's to let everyone know that dex on the Note 10 works with the old Atrix lapdock very well
In case anyone has one lying around and wants to see it in action, you would want the following accessories:
1. USB-C to HDMI adapter ( I opted for 1 with HDMI, USB 3.0 & USB-C in for power )
2. micro HDMI to HDMI cable
3. Female micro HDMI to Female micro HDMI adapter
Optional:
1. Modified USB A to micro USB cable ( more on this later )
2. Female micro USB to Female micro USB adapter
3. USB Cable + Charger to charge your phone
If all you want is to bring up dex on your lapdock, all you need are the HDMI connectors. You will want to use a Bluetooth keyboard & mouse to navigate dex and will not be able to charge your phone.
Going 1 step further, you can use a multi-function USB-C adapter with HDMI, USB OTG & USB in for power.
Here, you would modify a usb cable to give you access to the lapdock keyboard & mousepad. The lapdock was designed to be an all-in-one setup with the Atrix phone, so the 10 hour battery could also charge the Atrix. <-- That's our problem. So you will need to snip the RED wire in the usb cable to prevent the lapdock from potentially frying your phone or other devices.
Theoretically, you can charge the phone using the 2 usb ports on the back of the lapdock, but it's a trickle effect. It'll take forever and you won't be happy. I did it in a pinch & running any applications under dex still consumed my phone's battery. Plugging it into a charger, though, kept my phone @ 100%.
A big caveat here is the mousepad is NOT multitouch, so I still used my bluetooth mouse for the scroll wheel.
Here's where this becomes a lot of fun... the lapdock screen is great for running emulators in a decent window. I plugged in my shield gamepad with a usb cable into the back of my lapdock and was able to play pretty much anything I wanted to. Still plugged into an outlet kept the phone @ 100% while emulating 100%+ speeds.
The larger screen is also very nice for streaming tv/movies.
There is an option in the Dex control panel to output audio through the HDMI cable, so you aren't relying on your phone for audio.
Anyway, if you have one of these gems lying around, it's a great way to extend the value of this phone.
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ycavan said:
Here's to let everyone know that dex on the Note 10 works with the old Atrix lapdock very well
In case anyone has one lying around and wants to see it in action, you would want the following accessories:
1. USB-C to HDMI adapter ( I opted for 1 with HDMI, USB 3.0 & USB-C in for power )
2. micro HDMI to HDMI cable
3. Female micro HDMI to Female micro HDMI adapter
Optional:
1. Modified USB A to micro USB cable ( more on this later )
2. Female micro USB to Female micro USB adapter
3. USB Cable + Charger to charge your phone
If all you want is to bring up dex on your lapdock, all you need are the HDMI connectors. You will want to use a Bluetooth keyboard & mouse to navigate dex and will not be able to charge your phone.
Going 1 step further, you can use a multi-function USB-C adapter with HDMI, USB OTG & USB in for power.
Here, you would modify a usb cable to give you access to the lapdock keyboard & mousepad. The lapdock was designed to be an all-in-one setup with the Atrix phone, so the 10 hour battery could also charge the Atrix. <-- That's our problem. So you will need to snip the RED wire in the usb cable to prevent the lapdock from potentially frying your phone or other devices.
Theoretically, you can charge the phone using the 2 usb ports on the back of the lapdock, but it's a trickle effect. It'll take forever and you won't be happy. I did it in a pinch & running any applications under dex still consumed my phone's battery. Plugging it into a charger, though, kept my phone @ 100%.
A big caveat here is the mousepad is NOT multitouch, so I still used my bluetooth mouse for the scroll wheel.
Here's where this becomes a lot of fun... the lapdock screen is great for running emulators in a decent window. I plugged in my shield gamepad with a usb cable into the back of my lapdock and was able to play pretty much anything I wanted to. Still plugged into an outlet kept the phone @ 100% while emulating 100%+ speeds.
The larger screen is also very nice for streaming tv/movies.
There is an option in the Dex control panel to output audio through the HDMI cable, so you aren't relying on your phone for audio.
Anyway, if you have one of these gems lying around, it's a great way to extend the value of this phone.
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Hi, I'm trying to do the same. I've got a Note 10+ hooked up to my old Atrix lapdock. Note goes to a multiport adapter. From the adapter's USB-A output, I ran a cable to the lapdock's micro-USB. From the adapter's HDMI out, I ran a cable to the lapdock's mini-HDMI. With that, I can use the lapdock's screen but no keyboard or trackpad.
I ran a cable from the adapter's USB-C to one of the lapdock's rear USB ports, after snipping the red wire, but still no kb/m. The phone does charge like this though.
What have I done wrong? TIA.
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The USB cable going to the micro-USB port on the lapdock needs to have the red cable snipped. What I did was to snip the red cable and pull both snipped ends back, then use a bit of electrical tape to cover that part of the wire so the snipped ends don't accidentally touch anything.
The USB cable(s) going to the rear of the lapdock are fine unmodified.
Dude/Dudette thank you so much!!! It's only because I came across your thread here that I decided to try and resurrect my trusty old lapdock, and now it works perfectly!
Thanks for replying so quickly. I modified the wrong cable - snipped the red wire on the USB cable running to the rear USB-A port. Doh!
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The USB cable going to the micro-USB port on the lapdock needs to have the red cable snipped. What I did was to snip the red cable and pull both snipped ends back, then use a bit of electrical tape to cover that part of the wire so the snipped ends don't accidentally touch anything.
The USB cable(s) going to the rear of the lapdock are fine unmodified.
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