128GB SD card question - G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Do the 128gb SD cards that you can buy come already formatted to support files over 4GB (exFAT) or will I need access to a PC to do so?
Thank you

I use one in mine and have been able to transfer items from phone memory to external SD that are larger than 12 gigs at times. (That was a UHD demo video.)

psufan5 said:
Do the 128gb SD cards that you can buy come already formatted to support files over 4GB (exFAT) or will I need access to a PC to do so?
Thank you
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yes right you just use them, nothing else to be done

I use 128 GB sdcard on exfat with no issues at all.

psufan5 said:
Do the 128gb SD cards that you can buy come already formatted to support files over 4GB (exFAT) or will I need access to a PC to do so?
Thank you
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exfat =upto 4gb per file (limitation of android)
ntfs = larger than 4gb file (not supproted by android phones)

NoelBonel said:
exfat =upto 4gb per file (limitation of android)
ntfs = larger than 4gb file (not supproted by android phones)
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Lol.
Exfat filesize limit is 16 billion megabytes... Fat32, what you meant, goes up to 4GB.

Apologies!
Pfeffernuss said:
Lol.
Exfat filesize limit is 16 billion megabytes... Fat32, what you meant, goes up to 4GB.
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My sincerest apologies for my stupidity. Hehe. Should be fat32. Ehe...so sorry bro.

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Galaxy S III memory card problems

This is a cross post of a thread in the Q & A section because I think it is more appropriate here. Please forgive me if you disagree.
I have encountered a problem using SDXC cards in the Galaxy S III. It appears, to me, to be a bug in the exFAT drivers which are only used in the 64 GB SDXC card, 32GB cards and less are formatted as FAT32.
Please see thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1805743 for further information.
ChitownWingMan said:
This is a cross post of a thread in the Q & A section because I think it is more appropriate here. Please forgive me if you disagree.
I have encountered a problem using SDXC cards in the Galaxy S III. It appears, to me, to be a bug in the exFAT drivers which are only used in the 64 GB SDXC card, 32GB cards and less are formatted as FAT32.
Please see thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1805743 for further information.
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I heard you might need to format the card as FAT32
Zephyron said:
I heard you might need to format the card as FAT32
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You can't use FAT32 on a 64GB card. The phone formats 32GB or smaller as FAT32 and the 64GB at exFAT.
Some platforms support FAT32 on greater than 32GB cards/drives but it is not very compatible.
Thanks for your help
ChitownWingMan said:
You can't use FAT32 on a 64GB card. The phone formats 32GB or smaller as FAT32 and the 64GB at exFAT.
Some platforms support FAT32 on greater than 32GB cards/drives but it is not very compatible.
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Don't confuse FAT32 and FAT16. FAT32 supports up to 2 TB, though I believe Windows makes it difficult to format anything larger than 32 GB.
tamasrepus said:
Don't confuse FAT32 and FAT16. FAT32 supports up to 2 TB, though I believe Windows makes it difficult to format anything larger than 32 GB.
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You are correct the theoretical maximum size of FAT32 is 2TB. However, since Microsoft in their infinite wisdom decided only to support FAT32 up to 32GB (most likely to force people to use NTFS) support for FAT32 above 32GB is spotty and unreliable.
This being said if you format a 32GB card or smaller in the Galaxy S III, it will be formatted FAT32. If you format a 64GB (or greater I presume) in the Galaxy S III, it will be formatted exFAT.
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You are correct the theoretical maximum size of FAT32 is 2TB. However, since Microsoft in their infinite wisdom decided only to support FAT32 up to 32GB (most likely to force people to use NTFS) support for FAT32 above 32GB is spotty and unreliable.
This being said if you format a 32GB card or smaller in the Galaxy S III, it will be formatted FAT32. If you format a 64GB (or greater I presume) in the Galaxy S III, it will be formatted exFAT.
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exFat format will not read correctly on SGSIII. I just had this issue with my 64 GB SD card. I formatted it in FAT32 and all was fine. I did use a Mac with disk utility to do the formatting though. Windows 7 was trying to force exFAT to format.
ChitownWingMan said:
You are correct the theoretical maximum size of FAT32 is 2TB. However, since Microsoft in their infinite wisdom decided only to support FAT32 up to 32GB (most likely to force people to use NTFS) support for FAT32 above 32GB is spotty and unreliable.
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Windows Vista and above don't let you format volumes larger than 32 GB as FAT32. It's an artificial limitation on their part.
Other than that, FAT32 has been around a long time, and works fine with 32+ GB volumes. It's not great but doesn't really become spotty and unreliable till you go beyond 100 GB or so.
I'd get a Linux LiveCD and format your SD card FAT32 with that.
Partition Wizard Home Edition (win) is free and will format all your fat32 needs http://www.partitionwizard.com/free-partition-manager.html
hauniii said:
exFat format will not read correctly on SGSIII. I just had this issue with my 64 GB SD card. I formatted it in FAT32 and all was fine. I did use a Mac with disk utility to do the formatting though. Windows 7 was trying to force exFAT to format.
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Thank you for confirming my research. I am currently in communication with Samsung, T-Mobile and SanDisk. With any luck with potential sales in the millions they will fix it. The man at Samsung commented "We sell that card on our website we had better get it working"
Further Update
ChitownWingMan said:
Thank you for confirming my research. I am currently in communication with Samsung, T-Mobile and SanDisk. With any luck with potential sales in the millions they will fix it. The man at Samsung commented "We sell that card on our website we had better get it working"
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I spoke with someone at Sandisk and they have heard of the problem and are researching it. T-Mobile and Samsung are also "investigating" it.
I formatted my 64GB card FAT32 and I am using it like that for now.
One problem with using FAT32 is that there is a directory size limit of 65,535 bytes total for the directory itself (not the files in the directory). I have a Titanium Backup directory with almost 12,000 files in it, all with long names. That easily exceeds the 64K directory size limit and this directory is "full" and trying to write to it generates errors.
If you have a directory with 5,000 files with an average file name length of 12 characters (rather short in this day and age) that makes the directory 60,000 bytes. If the average file name length is 13 characters the directory size will be 65,000 bytes and if the average file name length is 14 bytes the directory size is now 70,000 bytes and this exceeds the maximum directory size.
If you keep your file names to the old DOS 8.3 (11 characters) format then a directory can handle approx. 5,957 files. The actual number is less because there are other bytes in each entry used by the system (permissions, file size, starting segment, etc.).
For programs like Titanium Backup this can become a problem. Titanium backup uses long file names (longer than 20 characters) that include the date in them. I always backup my entire phone downloaded apps & data, system apps & data and system data. This is about 470 different items being backed up. Titanium Backup uses 2 and sometimes 3 files for each item backed up. I also maintain a 7 day backup history. This creates a total of 8,225 (approx) files, if each has a file name length of 20 characters that would be a directory size of 164,500 bytes.
This far exceeds what FAT32 can handle. And this is a somewhat reasonable scenario.
So, let's put pressure on T-Mobile and Samsung to get the exFAT problem fixed.

OGP exFat support ?

Does the OGP support exFat ? I hate the 4Gb limit of FAT32. How can I overcome this limit ?
pallcsa said:
Does the OGP support exFat ? I hate the 4Gb limit of FAT32. How can I overcome this limit ?
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FAT32 supports partitions up to 32 GB. If you notice, out of the box the G Pro comes with a hidden partition and an 23 GB partition as Internal Storage. I have a 32 GB MicroSD card formatted as a single 32 GB FAT32 partition.
You only need ExFAT if you plan on using a 64 GB MicroSD card. Since LG advertises that the G Pro can support up to a 64 GB MicroSD card, then its likely that the stock ROM and kernel do support ExFAT. If for some reason it doesn't, then replacing the ROM with one of the Android 4.4 KitKat ROMs will surely do the trick.
DonS said:
FAT32 supports partitions up to 32 GB. If you notice, out of the box the G Pro comes with a hidden partition and an 23 GB partition as Internal Storage. I have a 32 GB MicroSD card formatted as a single 32 GB FAT32 partition.
You only need ExFAT if you plan on using a 64 GB MicroSD card. Since LG advertises that the G Pro can support up to a 64 GB MicroSD card, then its likely that the stock ROM and kernel do support ExFAT. If for some reason it doesn't, then replacing the ROM with one of the Android 4.4 KitKat ROMs will surely do the trick.
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Well, I bit the bullet and formatted my 32Gb sdhc card to exFAT and the OGP can read it flawlessly. I am very pleased with the results because I got rid of the 4Gb file size limit. The only small issue is that cwm recovery can`t read or write exFAT so I have to make backups to my internal memory and then move them to the SD.
pallcsa said:
Well, I bit the bullet and formatted my 32Gb sdhc card to exFAT and the OGP can read it flawlessly. I am very pleased with the results because I got rid of the 4Gb file size limit. The only small issue is that cwm recovery can`t read or write exFAT so I have to make backups to my internal memory and then move them to the SD.
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How do you format it into exFat?
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Well, it`s very easy. I put it in the card reader of the laptop and formatted it in the file manager of windows 7.

[RESOLVED] Transfer more than 4Gb video

Hello
I have a LG G3 (D855) 16Go.
I have also an micro sd card 64 Gb.
So i want to transfer a 8Gb video size on my micro sd card 64Gb but i couldn't because the format is FAT32.
Is there any solution to format in NTFS or another ?
Thanks
julien712 said:
Hello
I have a LG G3 (D855) 16Go.
I have also an micro sd card 64 Gb.
So i want to transfer a 8Gb video size on my micro sd card 64Gb but i couldn't because the format is FAT32.
Is there any solution to format in NTFS or another ?
Thanks
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I believe formatting it to exFAT should do the trick.
crazililazn said:
I believe formatting it to exFAT should do the trick.
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Oh thank's for the speed answer
I try and i edit the topic if it's OK
(i have to backup before ahah)
crazililazn said:
I believe formatting it to exFAT should do the trick.
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It's work perfectly
Thank's you

SD-card filesystem

What filesystem do you use on G4 SD-card?
Why? What version of OS you have?
exFAT for external micro-SD card in LG G4 H818P. R/w perfectly. BB used Win7 x64
sahalento said:
exFAT for external micro-SD card in LG G4 H818P. R/w perfectly. BB used Win7 x64
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It's faster then Fat32 or...?
Sent from my LG G4
sahalento said:
exFAT for external micro-SD card in LG G4 H818P. R/w perfectly. BB used Win7 x64
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Do u do anything special to get exfat working? Do other apps see the exfat sdcard as an available source to access? I tried exfat but kept getting the error saying unsupported file system. Thanks
@welder73, not sure which is faster but exfat support larger than 4gb files while fat32 doesn't
About speed. I did'n see difference between exFAT and FAT32. About the same.
And I did'n do anything special to get exFAT. Just formatted micro-SD on PC via SDFormatter utility. I thing exFAT support may be available or not on different ROMs for different countries. I am on stock v10d-CIS. It's ok by default.
Also I saw then users flashed rooted system from one region to another stock ROM (SEA, PHL) - no exFAT support. May be answer is in some files in system (bin, etc) or in some files in another images from full KDZ/TOT.
Pterka said:
What filesystem do you use on G4 SD-card?
Why? What version of OS you have?
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ExFAT on a big SD card. Because it's a one way street on a phone capable of shooting videos that cost half a gigabyte per minute.
Stock marshmallow H815 EU.
Didn't have to do anything special other than format it using the native windows 10 format application. Phone accepted it no questions asked.
Speed wise don't expect observable differences over previous file systems. SD card hardware is the main factor.
You have to use Fat32 for SD cards smaller than 32 GB and exFat for SD cards bigger than 32 GB. Speed and reliability depends on the brand of the SD card. I used without issues a Samsung micro SDHC EVO UHS-1 (32 GB) and a SanDisk Ultra Android microSDXC, 64GB, 80MB/s, Class 10, UHS-I.

exFat issue

Do you anybody have problem with exFat SD card like that?
Im using exFat for my 32gb SD, my gallery not refreshing for new downloaded videos or images. So i cant see them. Even sometimes not helping restarting phone.
But when i take photo to SD i can see that image in my gallery instantly.
Was Fat32 everytings works great.
Using H815 6.0 Stock v20g eur xx.
FAT32 is the recommended file system for SD and SDHC cards ...
mythbrk said:
Do you anybody have problem with exFat SD card like that?
Im using exFat for my 32gb SD, my gallery not refreshing for new downloaded videos or images. So i cant see them. Even sometimes not helping restarting phone.
But when i take photo to SD i can see that image in my gallery instantly.
Was Fat32 everytings works great.
Using H815 6.0 Stock v20g eur xx.
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FAT32 is the recommended file system for SD and SDHC cards ... a 32gb SD card is an SDHC card.
exFAT is primarily for SDXC cards ... (i.e., greater than 32 GB).
Both FAT32 and exFAT are Microsoft designs.
I suspect your issue is directly related to LINUX and the inherent formatting of your internal storage where I presume you are downloading your videos/images to before moving them to your SD card.
If your videos/images individually are not exceeding 4 GB there is no need to go to exFAT on an SDHC card but because the LG G4 supports cards greater than 32gb, i.e., supports exFAT, you will be able to see them when moved to your card.
S.
sdembiske said:
FAT32 is the recommended file system for SD and SDHC cards ... a 32gb SD card is an SDHC card.
exFAT is primarily for SDXC cards ... (i.e., greater than 32 GB).
Both FAT32 and exFAT are Microsoft designs.
I suspect your issue is directly related to LINUX and the inherent formatting of your internal storage where I presume you are downloading your videos/images to before moving them to your SD card.
If your videos/images individually are not exceeding 4 GB there is no need to go to exFAT on an SDHC card but because the LG G4 supports cards greater than 32gb, i.e., supports exFAT, you will be able to see them when moved to your card.
S.
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Yes i know. thats why i formatted to exFat, sometimes i need 4gb+ files.
I just directly download to SD card with phone.
Im thinking its about LG's software. deleting files is so slow (2gb files 10sec+) and not refreshing in gallery.
I was readed somewhere fat32 have (log daily feature) or something like that for changed files and accuracy files idk properly but exFat not have this maybe its about that.
Before coming to that conclusion ...
mythbrk said:
Yes i know. thats why i formatted to exFat, sometimes i need 4gb+ files.
I just directly download to SD card with phone.
Im thinking its about LG's software. deleting files is so slow (2gb files 10sec+) and not refreshing in gallery.
I was readed somewhere fat32 have (log daily feature) or something like that for changed files and accuracy files idk properly but exFat not have this maybe its about that.
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Before coming to that conclusion ... i.e., thinking it's about LG's software, you would have to test out an SDXC card and see if you're having the same issue. Then you might be able to make a case to LG if everything else is set-up properly.
When you state you are downloading to your SD card directly with your phone, how exactly did you set it up ... ?
S.
sdembiske said:
Before coming to that conclusion ... i.e., thinking it's about LG's software, you would have to test out an SDXC card and see if you're having the same issue. Then you might be able to make a case to LG if everything else is set-up properly.
When you state you are downloading to your SD card directly with your phone, how exactly did you set it up ... ?
S.
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Im using opera and i can set download location many apps can do this.
Oh. You right i thought SDHC can handle exFat but have problem with compatibility. But you can use anyway if you need.
You're not using adaptable storage ...
mythbrk said:
Im using opera and i can set download location many apps can do this.
Oh. You right i thought SDHC can handle exFat but have problem with compatibility. But you can use anyway if you need.
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You're not using adoptable storage ... for the set-up of your sd card are you with android 6.0, Marshmallow? Needs to be set to portable I believe ... irrespective of what you've set in Opera.
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sdembiske said:
You're not using adoptable storage ... for the set-up of your sd card are you with android 6.0, Marshmallow? Needs to be set to portable I believe ... irrespective of what you've set in Opera.
S.
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I dont understand what you exactly mean.
I just download directly to SD card external storage. Not internal phone's own
im not using sd card as adaptable storage.
And yes 6.0 Marshmallow.
Borrow or purchase an ...
mythbrk said:
I dont understand what you exactly mean.
I just download directly to SD card external storage. Not internal phone's own
im not using sd card as adaptable storage.
And yes 6.0 Marshmallow.
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Then borrow or purchase an ... SDXC card and see if the issue recurs when formatted as exFAT.
You could try re-formatting your card with a different program and see if it helps but It may be your phone is having trouble reconciling a 32gb card to exFAT.
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