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Hi all,
In my previous phone (Nokia 6230) i placed a DualSIM card. Basically meaning that I could place 2 SIM cards in one phone. A menu option was created in the phone that allowed you to switch between the 2 sims without switching the phone on/off. Ideal since I have a business number and private number... I ordered this through mobile.brando.com.hk Attached you can find a description of this tool.
Now I have a Qtek 9100, (SIMlock removed thanks to a brilliant tool found on this forum) but can't get this DualSIM to work. Does anyone have experiences with a similar trick. I hate carrying 2 phones with me all the time, so i would really like to find a dualsim that also work with PDA's / Pocket PC etc. etc.
Any suggestions / remarks?
Many thanks!
I haven't looked at your attachment, but I've used a cut sim, basically the sim where you cut your full size sims into two small ones, and fit those into a "mother sim", and put that in your phone. It's worked fine on my Magician for months. Got it from ebay for about £5. I wrote my own line switcher for use with my Today plugin so I can see what operator I'm on.
Don't buy a sim cloner. If you're in Europe, you're likely to have a modern sim. They can't be cloned yet, as far as I know.
V
Hi V,
Strange because my dualsim is the same, I have cut the golden chips out, but it won't work on the wizard.... Wonder why?
Sounds cool that you can switch using the today screen, i think everybody that knows how to write programs is brilliant... Is this program posted somewhere?
Ciao!
Hello to all! The experience that I have carried out with Simclone to
have been OK! I have a super SIM with 5 numbers and can
change number/operator through the menu of STK.
Through the plugin "dktoday" I can visualize the active operator in that moment (Vodafone, TIM, etc)!
Ciao!
Maarten78: I've never tested my cut/dual sim in anything other then a wizard. But what messages are you getting? I had to carefully "thicken" the cut sim so the contacts all made good contact, but once I'd done that it worked perfectly for months.
My plugin, (VJAudioNotes, evolved into VJEphemeris) has not been released yet. It's written for my specific setup, so I couldn't release it right now for public use. But DKToday is great!
V
Thx guys,
After your comment about thickening the dualsim it seems to work... It only pushes the back cover out a little bit, but i'll find something to solve that i think...
All that i now need is a tool to display on the Today Screen which provider I'm on... Sure i'll find something, i've tried the DKToday but that crashes my phone when i start other programs like explorer or inbox... Strange!
Thx tho, Maarten
I'm wondering about something that is perhaps the opposite of what is being discussed here, which I wonder about by seeing the name "simclone".
If one has more than one GSM phone or device, yet only one GSM phone line, one has to switch the SIM card between devices, in order to switch which phone to use.
It would certainly be convenient to have a clone of the same card, to work on more than one phone. Of course, being the same phone line, both devices would not be used simultaneously. But it would be nice to be able to switch between devices, without swapping the card in and out.
I have heard that this is possible with some European carriers, to get an extra SIM card of the same line, to use in different devices. It isn't possible to do officially anywhere here in the USA however, AFAIK.
So---I'm wondering if it is possible to do this somehow unofficially. How does this simclone program work?
What is this about cutting a SIM card in two? Would this work with US T-Mobile SIM cards?
I've seen these dualsim on sale in a few places, but they stated that they don't work with 3G networks.
Would that include T-Mobile, O2 and Orange :?:
me said:
I'm wondering about something that is perhaps the opposite of what is being discussed here, which I wonder about by seeing the name "simclone".
If one has more than one GSM phone or device, yet only one GSM phone line, one has to switch the SIM card between devices, in order to switch which phone to use.
It would certainly be convenient to have a clone of the same card, to work on more than one phone. Of course, being the same phone line, both devices would not be used simultaneously. But it would be nice to be able to switch between devices, without swapping the card in and out.
I have heard that this is possible with some European carriers, to get an extra SIM card of the same line, to use in different devices. It isn't possible to do officially anywhere here in the USA however, AFAIK.
So---I'm wondering if it is possible to do this somehow unofficially. How does this simclone program work?
What is this about cutting a SIM card in two? Would this work with US T-Mobile SIM cards?
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Woah! Cutting a SIM in half? As far as my vast intellect spans, I would imagine you would end up.....with....erm.....2 useless halves of a SIM that used to work?!?! :wink:
T-Mobile in the UK offer a Multi-Sim option for business customers of 10 handsets or more - multiple SIMs for same number, voice calls routed to unit of your choice...not sure about SMS Texts though :?
Hi folks,
I have extensively searched for this topic, and the only one that pops up for me is over on the phandroid S2 forums, and both threads claim it hasn't worked, despite videos on youtube showing that the Simore adapter does work with the S2.
So I am wondering if any of you guys have it working?
Thanks!
Don't know about the Simore, but the MagicSIM 28th cut works like a charm! What is the version/type of your Simore adapter?
I do not have one yet, but according to Simore, their Platinum series will work.
Do you have the MagicSIM 28th? Does it install the Sim App on your phone that allows for the sim switching?
Thank you for your input!
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I do not have one yet, but according to Simore, their Platinum series will work.
Do you have the MagicSIM 28th? Does it install the Sim App on your phone that allows for the sim switching?
Thank you for your input!
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MagicSIM 28th has built i menue,and allows switching ot sim 1 to 2, 2 to 1 etc
Thanks Nyssa! Have you used it? I am reluctant on this because I haven't found any reviews or people in forums saying any of the dual sim adapters work with the S2, other than the in-house Simore video on youtube. And then I read some posts from Blackberry users saying Simore has the worst customer service, claiming that it would work with the Blackberry 9000, when the adapter doesn't even fit, leading to sim card breakage, etc.
So I just want to be careful, since the adapters are not cheap.
The Magicsim switching works through the standard Sim Tool Kit menu. You can switch from 1 to 2 and from 2 to 1.
Adapter works great, only "problem" is with the auto APN settings (for 3G/HSDPA connection). Android doesn't auto-config the APN settings (or at least it takes a looooong time).
What I do:
1. Turn off mobile data
2. Switch sims through STK menu
3. Turn on airplane mode
4. Turn on mobile data
5. Turn off airplane mode
When I do this, the phone automatically configures the APN settings and the mobile data connection works like a charm!
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MagicSIM 28th has built i menue,and allows switching ot sim 1 to 2, 2 to 1 etc
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any link with a shop where we can order it?
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any link with a shop where we can order it?
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http://www.eurodualsim.com/site/
You may want to try ebay also worth a shot.
Hi,
Has anyone tried the non cut version on a Galaxy S2 ?
Thanks !
sorry but what is the diference between the cut and non cut version?
I'm interested in this too.
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I'll second the magicsim 28th gen for this!
I'd probably avoid the eurosim guy tho as i've have had a bad experience with him and if you search his website on here there's been a lot of bad talk about items not showing up etc
I'd go with ebay. I've bought several of these from the "directdevices" on ebay without any problems
Hope this helps.
R
I assume http://www.magicsim.com/ is what your all referring to?
This would be great for me as i have 2 phones, the GS2 and a Samsung Tocco which is seriously outdated and in bad condition but i have Irish and UK SIM cards but if i could have both in my GS2 id ditch the Toccco.
I previously bought a Simore card for an Omnia and couldn't get it to work. Each cut SIM worked on it's own but the switching adaptor card never did. €40 wasted in my opionion.
Yes thats right www.magicsim.com is the product
How do these things work? I mean does it allow incoming calls on any one of the two SIMs? Or only one SIM is active at one time?
And what happens when both the SIMs receive calls at the same time?
Only 1 sim is active, because the phone only has 1 antenna. When both numbers get a phonecall at the same moment, the active one will make the phone ring, the non-active one will go to voicemail.
If I have one "normal" Sim and second credit data SIM for internet access, it is possible set it that way that first will be not used for connecting to internet?! I am now switching cards but need second phone to get calls what is inconvenient.
Not with the Dualsim app. But I'm sure you could use an APN-manager and "lock" the APN settings, so only the one with a data plan can connect to mobile internet.
S2 with none cut 28th works
Hi
I am using the non cut version of the 28th and it works fine apart from 2 sim online it does not auto switch has anyone got this feature to work with sammy s2 ?
Is there a way to upgrade the sim tools app?
Thanks
I'm a new to ATT and was wondering if a lost phone can still be used inside/outside the US when inserted with a SIM card? Or is there something that blocks the phone?
You sound like the guy who "purchased" a GS3 on Craigslist which was sim locked by AT&T when it was reported stolen. Honestly, why would it matter if you're new to AT&T? If your phone is lost or stolen then report it and they'll in turn shut down that SIM. You can report it to Samsung as well who may track stolen devices no matter the SIM entered.
Won't give any other answer as I'm sure it's a violation of the rules to aid criminal like behavior.
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Haha. if i had "purchased" such a phone why would i ask? couldnt i just see for myself..?
Why would it matter? cause i just switched from VW, which as you know doesnt use SIMS.. I also just came back from a trip overseas where everyone just switched their SIM cards on the plane.. so being a new ATT customer i was wondering how that thing works.. if phones can be locked despite putting a different SIM locally/internationally.. it's just good honest curiosity. ATT CS did tell me i can put any ineternational local SIM and it'll work as long as its a partner..
You kinda sat yourself up for those kind of comments. You didn't ask in the OP if a phone could be used in/out of country.... U clearly said "lost". This is they word that will probably lead everyone that reads this post to think that 1:its a stolen phone or 2:what the guy above me said. Just making an observation.... If this is not the case maybe you should edit your OP to read differently.
Again.. this is just curiosity.. i don't understand why we can't talk about this.. i asking in general how SIM technology works whether it's active or deactivated.
Since you guys like scenarios VS hypotheticals here's one -- Imagin i lost my phone and bought a new phone under the warranty.. then later found my old phone.. will it still work if i put my SIM in? will i need to report that i found my phone? Those are valid questions that should get valid answers...
SIM cards will work in any phone. You not have to call AT&T to have them activate it. Although I don't know if the new lte SIM cards work in older 3g phones I'd assume they should. And you'd have to return one of the phones because AT&T will block the imei of the one reported lost or stolen. So you generally return the lost/stolen phone.
Edit: Also we should stop treating everyone like criminals because you find the post "suspicious".
Once reported lost or stolen...at&t will block that imei. So no, if you find that lost phone later...it won't work on at&t. Get it sim unlocked and sell it.
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here is a set of answers that should help your curiosity, since you are new to GSM/WCDMA-based networks (aka most networks that aren't VZW or sprint):
1. SIM cards can be switched in phones very easily. AT&T's 4G LTE SIMs can still be inserted into previous non-LTE phones (i.e. an old Moto Atrix) and it will work fine as long as the SIM card is valid. Your phone account/line is tied to your SIM card, NOT your phone. this is useful for those who have 'beater' phones for clubbing/debauchery nights.
2. phones from providers such as AT&T are usually SIM-locked, meaning you can only use an AT&T SIM in them. You can use other AT&T SIMs (say, from another account/line) and it will still work fine.
2.a. If your phone is reported stolen to AT&T, they will blacklist the IMEI and it CANNOT be used on AT&T's network anymore, period. So if your phone is stolen, you can have it barred from AT&T. This is why people who buy phones off craigslist often run into issues - the phone is actually stolen. There are no workarounds.
2.b. If you need to use your phone with a different provider's SIM (i.e. another country carrier, or t-mobile) then you need to get it unlocked. this requires a code that you input when you insert a foreign SIM. you can buy this code or get it from AT&T for free, pending a few requirements.
3. Verizon, now that they have an LTE network, uses SIM cards as well now.
Per the insurance rules if you do find the "lost" phone you are supposed to send it to them. I know they black list stolen phones, but from my experience they do not black list lost phones.
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here is a set of answers that should help your curiosity, since you are new to GSM/WCDMA-based networks (aka most networks that aren't VZW or sprint):
1. SIM cards can be switched in phones very easily. AT&T's 4G LTE SIMs can still be inserted into previous non-LTE phones (i.e. an old Moto Atrix) and it will work fine as long as the SIM card is valid. Your phone account/line is tied to your SIM card, NOT your phone. this is useful for those who have 'beater' phones for clubbing/debauchery nights.
2. phones from providers such as AT&T are usually SIM-locked, meaning you can only use an AT&T SIM in them. You can use other AT&T SIMs (say, from another account/line) and it will still work fine.
2.a. If your phone is reported stolen to AT&T, they will blacklist the IMEI and it CANNOT be used on AT&T's network anymore, period. So if your phone is stolen, you can have it barred from AT&T. This is why people who buy phones off craigslist often run into issues - the phone is actually stolen. There are no workarounds.
2.b. If you need to use your phone with a different provider's SIM (i.e. another country carrier, or t-mobile) then you need to get it unlocked. this requires a code that you input when you insert a foreign SIM. you can buy this code or get it from AT&T for free, pending a few requirements.
3. Verizon, now that they have an LTE network, uses SIM cards as well now.
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I just upgraded an Atrix 2 to an Atrix HD; and after 3 weeks the Atrix HD for a GSIII (fix your software MOTO!). Well between those two phones they switched the SIM card form factor. The Atrix 2 had the ones they've been running since ATT bought Cingular; and the Atrix HD used this one about 2/3 the size called a micro Sim card.
My question is this; can I use my micro SIM in my Inspire 4g I have for a backup?
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I just upgraded an Atrix 2 to an Atrix HD; and after 3 weeks the Atrix HD for a GSIII (fix your software MOTO!). Well between those two phones they switched the SIM card form factor. The Atrix 2 had the ones they've been running since ATT bought Cingular; and the Atrix HD used this one about 2/3 the size called a micro Sim card.
My question is this; can I use my micro SIM in my Inspire 4g I have for a backup?
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Yes you can, you'll just need an adapter like this one http://www.amazon.com/LE-Microsim-A...=UTF8&qid=1346276599&sr=8-1&keywords=microsim
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I just upgraded an Atrix 2 to an Atrix HD; and after 3 weeks the Atrix HD for a GSIII (fix your software MOTO!). Well between those two phones they switched the SIM card form factor. The Atrix 2 had the ones they've been running since ATT bought Cingular; and the Atrix HD used this one about 2/3 the size called a micro Sim card.
My question is this; can I use my micro SIM in my Inspire 4g I have for a backup?
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yes you can. if your slot is snug enough and not a push-slot you don't even need an adapter, just put it in so that the contacts are correctly aligned and it will be fine. did this all through europe when my SGS3 batt died.
I've wondered the same thing. Coming from sprint, I had to verify the ESN wasn't bad if buying used. This one done by calling sprint. I assume its the exact same thing but calling ATT with the imei number to see if its clean?
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Yes you can, you'll just need an adapter like this one http://www.amazon.com/LE-Microsim-A...=UTF8&qid=1346276599&sr=8-1&keywords=microsim
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Oh, that's too bad, it's $0.37. I would see paying $0.35 but $0.37 is completely unreasonable!!!
Hello everybody,
I've heard there's a dual sim adapter called MAGIC Sim for Galaxy 2..
My question is, does it work for both SIM Cards to be online at the same time? I don't want just to switch from one to another.
Please advise.
Hi As far as I know, you can't :/
No.
(You must have 2 radios in the mobile to be online with both at the same time.)
Hi, can anyone tell me where i can get this dual SIM adapter for S2 in India, and how much would it cost?
>Facepalm<
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Hi, can anyone tell me where i can get this dual SIM adapter for S2 in India, and how much would it cost?
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If you live in Delhi you can get if from Gaffar Market. It will cost you around Rs 100-150.
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My question is, does it work for both SIM Cards to be online at the same time? I don't want just to switch from one to another.
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I am using this device Gmate from skyroam.com. It allows both SIMs to be online at the same time, by using a Bluetooth connection to the external Gmate device housing your 2nd SIM card. The configuration is like this:
Phone + 3G SIM: You can surf 3G, make, answer calls and SMS from here
Gmate device + 2nd SIM card: You can make, answer calls and SMS from here
Pros:
- Both SIM cards are active
- Convenient, both numbers are active at the same time
Cons:
- Calls can be very noisy, and sometimes the other party says they cannot hear you clearly
- Uses bluetooth, so it would drain your phone's battery easily
- Pricier compared to MagicSIM, I got mine for USD 100
- On the Android, Gmate's phone application is not that user friendly
For me, I can live with the cons and nothing beats the convenience of having both lines being active.
Christ on a crutch. I wasn't going to bother (already adequately explained that NO NORMAL TELEPHONE can use 2 sims simultaneously) until I read the last post plugging the "GMate". If ever there was a solution looking for a problem, that's it.
Dual sim ADAPTERS are only useful if you (for example) juggle a work and personal line. 6 o'clock, switch to your personal line. 8am, switch back to your work line.
If you NEED two lines active simultaneously and want the convenience of one device, simply buy a dual-sim phone - they've been around for many years!!
This is more of a general ATT thread, but it does relate to my note 4.....
I have a one plus one, and my note 4 and from day to day I want the flexibilty to swap phones as I see fit. It used to be move the sim, and you're good. Lately, I've see issues when I moved my sim from phone to phone.
The first was last week, I bought an alpha clone off of craigslist and voice would work, but data would not. I dropped it back into my one plus one, and same thing, no data. Went to an ATT store, and they did an IMEI swap on my account and all was well in the world. Years ago, the IMEI swap on the carrier system kinda just followed the phones and wasnt ever an 'official' thing...but now it seems it is. Any ideas on this, can I swap my IMEI online with ATT?
Obviously I did a search on it, and it takes me to the ATT website, but it looks more along the lines of swapping when you've made an official order, not just because you want to. Am I missing something?
Change the sim card. When I went from my g2 to a nexus 5 I swapped the sim when I got the nexus 5 in the mail and data wasn't working ect. I go down to the AT&T store and talk to the same girl who's actually on the ball there and we found out that if you have an ICIS sim card it won't work on phones they don't sell. Just get a generic lte sim and see if that fixes it. Good luck!
The Sims that are blue are lte Sims don't get the ones that are purple those are isis
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Change the sim card. When I went from my g2 to a nexus 5 I swapped the sim when I got the nexus 5 in the mail and data wasn't working ect. I go down to the AT&T store and talk to the same girl who's actually on the ball there and we found out that if you have an ICIS sim card it won't work on phones they don't sell. Just get a generic lte sim and see if that fixes it. Good luck!
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Is that what ATT is giving out by default now? I have a nano sim (that i got for that nexus clone) and it works fine in my OPO. If I put it in my note 4, I only get 4G, not LTE, which I thought was odd. I can do as suggested, just want to make sure I understand first...
All att Sims are lte capable but the purple ones are softcard (isis) compatible, meaning they have the correct security features for the use of isis enabled devices
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All att Sims are lte capable but the purple ones are softcard (isis) compatible, meaning they have the correct security features for the use of isis enabled devices
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ok, so he meant isis above.
I think this is just a standard att LTE card...its orange...and it DOES work in my OPO, so I think that theory is out.
Call customer care and give them the imei of a phone that supports lte and have them add that and just not change the sim
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ok, so he meant isis above.
I think this is just a standard att LTE card...its orange...and it DOES work in my OPO, so I think that theory is out.
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The Isis/Softcard is a problem as described above, but there's also a "nextgenphone" feature that goes on your account with newer phones (along with your normal data feature) and newer phones are using that with a related APN so it could have something to do with that new feature. Haven't figured it out yet but I'm playing with the system & I'll post what I find. So far all my secure sims have changed phones fine. My Gear S gave me a couple problems but I'm not sure if they were related.
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The Isis/Softcard is a problem as described above, but there's also a "nextgenphone" feature that goes on your account with newer phones (along with your normal data feature) and newer phones are using that with a related APN so it could have something to do with that new feature. Haven't figured it out yet but I'm playing with the system & I'll post what I find. So far all my secure sims have changed phones fine. My Gear S gave me a couple problems but I'm not sure if they were related.
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Interesting. When I went to another ATT store a few weeks ago to change to a nano sim, the rep changed some codes on my plan. I got this in an email:
DELETED MOBILESHAREVSL64VT
ADDED MOBILESHAREVP20
Last night I went to a different ATT store than usual, and found out they were just a partner (though you could never tell it) and he said there were a few wonky codes on my plan, one of which mentioned something about APNs...so maybe youre on to something. He was under the impression it was grandfathered though, so it was old. He could, of course be wrong.
He also tried his SIM (oh and I have a non-secure sim) in my one plus one from his moto x 2014 and it worked just fine. LTE and everything. He put my sim into his X, and got 4G only, no LTE.
So he swapped me back into a non-secure micro sim, just to try things out again, and I left the store with my one plus one working. I came home, dropped it into my Note 4, and got 4G only, no LTE. When I put it back into my OPO, I got a text message saying I needed a new sim to work with my phones new feature. Weird.
The original feature is just normal mobile share data but I'll have to look up the second one I haven't seen that in the system. What i know is that once you put your sim in a newer phone (last few months) the system auto adds that nextgen feature & you end up either needing a secure sim or have to put the correct imei on the account
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The original feature is just normal mobile share data but I'll have to look up the second one I haven't seen that in the system. What i know is that once you put your sim in a newer phone (last few months) the system auto adds that nextgen feature & you end up either needing a secure sim or have to put the correct imei on the account
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So that sounds like its our culprit.
If i have a secure sim for my note 4....can I move that to my OPO? I've heard no, but I've also heard yes...
I have been swapping my Sim card that I got with my Note 4 with my Note 3 Nokia 1520 and my Gear S. I have had data act up but only with the Note 4. Everything else has worked fine. In the Note 4 what I have done is add the older apn and toggle to that apn. Let it pickup the 4G lte icon or whatever it is. Got to phone app settings advanced settings and make sure you don't get an error. Then switch back to the Nextgen apn.
Worked for me.
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For Christmas I got an iPhone 5s for my daughter,to replace her iPhone 4s.Its been so long since I've used an iphone. Christmas morning she opened it.I told her just swap your Sim card,she came back down kinda upset and said it didnt fit.Now I felt bad,ATT isn't open nothing I could do.I remembered once I took a Sim that was too small and crazy glued it to a iPhone 3g Sim tray and it worked.So I googled cutting an iPhone 5s Sim card,and there's actually a template you can DL and trace where to cut.For some reason my printer didn't want to work so used a ruler and the dimensions that were on the site,it was micro Sim to nano sim. I got really sharp heavy duty scissors and cut it,sanded the sides and corner,even the non contact side because the nano is like a hair thinner,fit right in sim tray and worked perfect.I've offered to give her my S5,nope lol these kids and there Iphones.And that phones IMEI was on my plan that day,it was an ATT phone from someone who recently got a 6plus that I got it from.