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[Q] Batery HTC One M8 vs LG G2

Hello,
can you tell me please if HTC M8 has similiar battery life than LG G2? I m seriously concerning buying HTC and this thing is last one which I m not sure about.
Thanks for all thoughts.

kapybarus said:
Hello,
can you tell me please if HTC M8 has similiar battery life than LG G2? I m seriously concerning buying HTC and this thing is last one which I m not sure about.
Thanks for all thoughts.
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I'm coming from an LG G2 and have HTC One M8 for 6 weeks now, and with around the same usage, I get 20-25% less battery time a day with the HTC. (Without power savers enabled). Not really a problem but thats the difference.
Also you should consider the screen size and bezels in comparison. I still have the G2 and have seriously considered going back because of the great screen implementation on the LG G2. But the stereo speakers, build quality, camera (yes it's better than the G2 in everyday usage) and Sense software just makes my day with the M8. It's not that the M8 screen is bad, but in direct comparison the G2 is just amazing in regards to just this.

duckstardeluxe said:
I'm coming from an LG G2 and have HTC One M8 for 6 weeks now, and with around the same usage, I get 20-25% less battery time a day with the HTC. (Without power savers enabled). Not really a problem but thats the difference.
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The G2 battery is 15% larger, so that would account for that.

I know and the difference in real life is what he asked for.
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kapybarus said:
Hello,
can you tell me please if HTC M8 has similiar battery life than LG G2? I m seriously concerning buying HTC and this thing is last one which I m not sure about.
Thanks for all thoughts.
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http://www.phonearena.com/news/HTC-One-M8-battery-life-test-excellent-endurance_id54352

Help me decide LG G4 vs Oneplus 2

Hey guys,
I need to decide between the LG G4 and the Oneplus 2. I really like the expandable memory and battery life of the G4, but the Oneplus has a great processor and lots of development. So I'm interested to know what you like and don't like about the G4. What should I know about the phone in considering it? There isn't much ROM or Kernel development from what I see here, how do you like what is available? How easy is it to root compared to Samsung, HTC, and Oneplus? How customizable is it? Can you simply OV/UC?
Any feedback is appreciated!

I had the same choice has you. I choosed G4 two weeks ago for a lot of reasons. (I had a Note4)
Problem : Touch default which will be correct in the next update
I prefer G4 against Oneplus2 for : Expandable memory, battery removable, more stable CPU/GPU, great screen, great photos/videos. Good battery.
I haven't root the phone actually, but I have downloaded the bootloader unlocker key on LG website. In fact root seems very easy.

Root is pretty simple and with an unlockable bootloader coming for most if not all variants the g4 development will be booming soon...i love the camera and the overall smoothness of my g4 and plan on keeping it for a long while

jamesd1085 said:
Root is pretty simple and with an unlockable bootloader coming for most if not all variants the g4 development will be booming soon...i love the camera and the overall smoothness of my g4 and plan on keeping it for a long while
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What makes you think development will be booming soon?
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shiboby said:
What makes you think development will be booming soon?
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Unlockable bootloader...usually draws devs as a workaround is not needed to install custom roms/kernels...also root is an easy process...also i owned the original optimus g the g2 g3 and all had great developement...i will probably be an lg mobile buyer for life...plus an unlocked bootloader on such a powerful device just screams for attention

I highly doubt there'll be much development for the g4. And obviously there'll be way more for the op2. So if you buy a phone to flash roms all day long I think the decision is simple. For me the g4 with root and Xposed is perfect. I wouldn't flash anything else than stock on it if I got payed for it.

android404 said:
I highly doubt there'll be much development for the g4. And obviously there'll be way more for the op2. So if you buy a phone to flash roms all day long I think the decision is simple. For me the g4 with root and Xposed is perfect. I wouldn't flash anything else than stock on it if I got payed for it.
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I dont flash ROMs everyday. Before my OPO got stolen. I hadnt flashed anything in about two months. I just want to make the phone run the way I want. Why do you think there wont be much development? And how do you think it would compare to g2 and g3 development?
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shiboby said:
I dont flash ROMs everyday. Before my OPO got stolen. I hadnt flashed anything in about two months. I just want to make the phone run the way I want. Why do you think there wont be much development? And how do you think it would compare to g2 and g3 development?
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He makes a good point...lg stock roms are amazing and using xposed to change them to your liking makes it about as good as it gets

jamesd1085 said:
He makes a good point...lg stock roms are amazing and using xposed to change them to your liking makes it about as good as it gets
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It has been a long time since I used Xposed, but if I remember correctly you cant really tweak the voltages, clock speed, governors, io scheduler, Etc. Plus I'm concerned about development after LG ends support
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jamesd1085 said:
He makes a good point...lg stock roms are amazing and using xposed to change them to your liking makes it about as good as it gets
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Agreed.
The reason we used to flash roms daily was to fix faults and improve things which usually broke other things...
G4 on latest update seems pretty much perfect.
More time spent doing fun stuff now.
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shiboby said:
Hey guys,
I need to decide between the LG G4 and the Oneplus 2. I really like the expandable memory and battery life of the G4, but the Oneplus has a great processor and lots of development. So I'm interested to know what you like and don't like about the G4. What should I know about the phone in considering it? There isn't much ROM or Kernel development from what I see here, how do you like what is available? How easy is it to root compared to Samsung, HTC, and Oneplus? How customizable is it? Can you simply OV/UC?
Any feedback is appreciated!
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I had that choice yesterday when I got an invite but I chose to stick to my lg g4 as I love the fone I had the g3 lg pro 2 and I love this fone battery last me sometime 2 days and I love customising it with lg themes from store
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xchasa said:
Agreed.
The reason we used to flash roms daily was to fix faults and improve things which usually broke other things...
G4 on latest update seems pretty much perfect.
More time spent doing fun stuff now.
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That's great, for now. But when Lg stops supporting the G4 in about a year, I'd like there to be continued dev.
Additionally, there are things I'd like to tweak to make the phone more suited for my use (gov/io, clock speed, processor voltage, wifi seek interval, etc) that I dont think I can do with xposed or with stock.
How much customizability is there with lg stock? What about the Kernels already available?
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shiboby said:
That's great, for now. But when Lg stops supporting the G4 in about a year, I'd like there to be continued dev.
Additionally, there are things I'd like to tweak to make the phone more suited for my use (gov/io, clock speed, processor voltage, wifi seek interval, etc) that I dont think I can do with xposed or with stock.
How much customizability is there with lg stock? What about the Kernels already available?
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I'm happy leaving voltages etc alone. It works great as it is for me. Maybe check the dev section for progress but sounds like one plus 2 might suit you better.
The plan I'm on allows a new phone yearly so so fading dev support was never an issue.
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shiboby said:
It has been a long time since I used Xposed, but if I remember correctly you cant really tweak the voltages, clock speed, governors, io scheduler, Etc. Plus I'm concerned about development after LG ends support
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According to lgs website the g2 is about to get 5.1...they may even get m...the support from lg is pretty amazing for an oem...i also had my g3 break out of warranty but it was a known issue and lg fixed it free of charge...thats why i stick to lg

I got a private message that really helped me a lot from Zilol. I'm posting it here for others who may be considering the same thing, with Zilol's permission of course
I would choose the G4 if it was overall experience and stability. But root and everything about KDZ is horrible if u are used to nexus-like devices, the G4 is way more trouble and all about being careful and a lot of more work as well. TWRP got erased and if u boot into recovery (stock), it automatically does a factory reset with wiping media too (I didnt know neither of those 2 factors) and I lost my internal storage. I was so mad, I gave the 1+2 a shot. Well, compared to the G4 the 1+2 feels like a unfinished buisness. The battery life isnt really above average. I would guess the SD810 to be the culprit but thats not the case. Its something about standby time, not OST but I guess that could be fixed by a software update. OxygenOS feels like an unfinished buisness, lacking several important features and a certain degree of stability. When I updated to 2.0.2, I lost the search bar in "recents" and "clear all apps" was gone as well, which just makes no sense, since u dont have an option to activate it, at least I didnt found it. The next thing is camera. On short distance its fine and compareable to the G4 but under low lights its another story. the photos arent as sharp as on the G4 when zoomed in but that could be the difference in megapixel count. but the biggest problem (just discovered like 2 mins ago) its just bad when it comes to distance shots. Because the infinite focus doesnt seem to work. When I manually focus, there is a short period where its sharp but when the focus is fixated its not sharp at all. I like in the 27th floor with a whole city to my feet and the picture quality differences speaks for themselves, especially at low light. otherwise the 1+2 cam is fine but not to take picture in the distance properly is an issue, maybe it will get fixed through an update.
I recommend the G4. I like stock android but in my opinion the LG UX was good to go. Its really not that much of a big deal. The cam is great, the battery life fair and u can swap battery and expand storage. The 1+2 does better at flashing and u dont loose warranty through BL unlock, only time will tell. Once they fix fingerprint for CM roms or until M is out and FP becomes native, I cant recommend 1+2 over G4. Or atleast they have to update oxygenos bc the current state is problematic, maybe CM roms are better but right now they lack laser-autofocus and fingerprint so thats a no-go for me. On the other hand OOS 2.1 will be out by the mid of the month, so maybe its worth the wait since its a 2.1 bigger update. Im positive 1+ will give their best but at the end of the day only real life performance counts even if they put much effort in it.
When it comes to build quali I prefer the 1+2 over the G4. The leather back is awesome but the chrome finish on the sides isnt my thing. both feel really good in the hand tho but the alu sides of the 1+2 makes it feel more premium. If u choose the 1+2 btw, be aware of the style swap covers. I bought it in china in the experience store, so Im talking about oem accessories. I bought the rosewood and kevlar back but they are thicker and make the phone more bulky. The standard sandstone covers finishes with the alu sides but the others stand out a little bit. Could be an aestethic problem.

jamesd1085 said:
According to lgs website the g2 is about to get 5.1...they may even get m...the support from lg is pretty amazing for an oem...i also had my g3 break out of warranty but it was a known issue and lg fixed it free of charge...thats why i stick to lg
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And I love LG because I never won a phone b4. They gave me a brand LG G4 H815 for Trial and to keep.
@shiboby
And I just brought a G Flex 2 H959 FLAMINGOS RED SD810 run great with the latest LG firmware 5.1.1. No overheating or lagging whatsoever issue. A great phone with a good price now. This also the one you should consider.
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guys I got my phone and can't get root! I've tried all the following:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3129197
[GUIDE][ROOT] Newest Root Method for LG devices
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3049772
[GUIDE] New Root Method for LG Devices
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3056951
[Guide]LG One Click Root - root LG firmwares (KitKat / Lollipop)

The only possible way to root your g4 if your bootloader is locked:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/orig-development/root-tmo-vzw-intl-variants-soon-root-lg-t3164765
shiboby said:
guys I got my phone and can't get root! I've tried all the following:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3129197
[GUIDE][ROOT] Newest Root Method for LG devices
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3049772
[GUIDE] New Root Method for LG Devices
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3056951
[Guide]LG One Click Root - root LG firmwares (KitKat / Lollipop)
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rogconnect said:
And I love LG because I never won a phone b4. They gave me a brand LG G4 H815 for Trial and to keep.
@shiboby
And I just brought a G Flex 2 H959 FLAMINGOS RED SD810 run great with the latest LG firmware 5.1.1. No overheating or lagging whatsoever issue. A great phone with a good price now. This also the one you should consider.
내 LG G4 H815 USA사용 tapatalk에서 전송
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I was thinking between lg flex 2 or lg g4 is there much difference between the 2
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rowbaggie22 said:
I was thinking between lg flex 2 or lg g4 is there much difference between the 2
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G4 camera ? better G Flex 2 and no swappable battery. But love the curved OLED of G Flex 2 and SD810.
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G3 or G4?

I've been struggling to make a decision between the G3 and the G4. The G4 obviously is the newer device with the better specs, but I didn't see any (official) cyanogenmod support yet for it, whereas the G3 has that going for it already. Having some custom roms available is a killer feature for me in a device. I already read that even only the european version (I'm from Germany) of the G4 can be rooted - is that the reason why there are next to no custom ROMs or kernels at all?
Do you recommend the G3 if I'm going for customizability or is the G4 going to get CM support eventually?
Thanks in advance for any help

vadsvads said:
I've been struggling to make a decision between the G3 and the G4. The G4 obviously is the newer device with the better specs, but I didn't see any (official) cyanogenmod support yet for it, whereas the G3 has that going for it already. Having some custom roms available is a killer feature for me in a device. I already read that even only the european version (I'm from Germany) of the G4 can be rooted - is that the reason why there are next to no custom ROMs or kernels at all?
Do you recommend the G3 if I'm going for customizability or is the G4 going to get CM support eventually?
Thanks in advance for any help
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No idea about CM but I think we all have root now. I am using the Canadian model (H812) and we have root but no unlocked bootloader.
We flash things using FlashFire since we can't install TWRP. No idea about roms, I don't use them.

If you're looking for strictly customization you won't find much for the G4. Maybe you'd be satisfied with what's available as far as themes, Xposed, etc.
You can change things up quite a bit, but it's pretty far from a custom rom or kernels. If you're not in a rush maybe wait it out a bit to see if the G4 scene improves. In my opinion it's the much better device out of the two. If anything when you do buy the prices could be lower.
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I would also like to add that flashing roms can get old after a while. On my G2 and previous phones I was constantly flashing and changing things. Seemed like everything was buggy in one way or another. In the end I was happier with a nice phone where everything worked the way it should.
With the G4 I'm pretty happy with the stock software, sure I rooted and changed a few things appearance wise, and removed a lot of bloat ware. I'm stuck with a stock rom and recovery(stupid Verizon model), but that's ok!
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@rick09 Why do you think it's better? Other reasons besides performance?
But the G3 should still be a good phone, right? Currently, I've got an HTC One M7, on which the battery lift has gotten quite horrible... Now I don't really know what to get - I've thought about these (In brackets my concerns about them):
Moto X Play (No replaceable battery)
Oppo R7 Plus (Last gen processor, Huge but unreplacable battery)
LG G3 (Nice overall, but the G4 is newer)
LG G4 (No CM support yet)
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vadsvads said:
@rick09 Why do you think it's better? Other reasons besides performance?
But the G3 should still be a good phone, right? Currently, I've got an HTC One M7, on which the battery lift has gotten quite horrible... Now I don't really know what to get - I've thought about these (In brackets my concerns about them):
Moto X Play (No replaceable battery)
Oppo R7 Plus (Last gen processor, Huge but unreplacable battery)
LG G3 (Nice overall, but the G4 is newer)
LG G4 (No CM support yet)
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Ok look, if you're going to buy one of these phones so go with the G4 H815 (not any other model! because of unlockable bootloader) it will get the cm very soon, the development is very fast,
BUT if custom roms are you're thing and you can't live without it so don't but lg at all, go for the oneplus 2 or the new nexus devices the n5x or the n6p

solokiller11 said:
Ok look, if you're going to buy one of these phones so go with the G4 H815 (not any other model! because of unlockable bootloader) it will get the cm very soon, the development is very fast
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No, I'm totally fine with CM, but will it really be actively developed given that only a small portion of the G4 users can really use it?
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vadsvads said:
No, I'm totally fine with CM, but will it really be actively developed given that only a small portion of the G4 users can really use it?
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Is it will be and also bliss is in development but it will take a little more time to be really stable
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solokiller11 said:
Is it will be and also bliss is in development but it will take a little more time to be really stable
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Thanks for your help How's your battery life? That sweet 4100mAh on the Oppo R7 Plus is really tempting
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vadsvads said:
Thanks for your help How's your battery life? That sweet 4100mAh on the Oppo R7 Plus is really tempting
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The battery is enough for the day but every night I have to charge it, not a problam at all!
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solokiller11 said:
The battery is enough for the day but every night I have to charge it, not a problam at all!
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Oh, I'm totally charging overnight. I also have a pretty huge powerbank with me all day, so that shouldn't be a problem. On my current M7 though, when my screen is on, my battery even drains while charging
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vadsvads said:
Currently, I've got an HTC One M7, on which the battery lift has gotten quite horrible... Now I don't really know what to get - I've thought about these (In brackets my concerns about them)
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Why not just get your m7 battery changed then and stick with it ?
after two years its not going to be as good as new.

One Twelve said:
Why not just get your m7 battery changed then and stick with it ?
after two years its not going to be as good as new.
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The M7 is by no means a bad device but changing the battery is nearly impossible on that thing. Also, because of a hardware failure which affected the whole M7 series, all my low-light photos look like this which renders the camera totally unusable is some situation. The strongest reason for me wanting to get a new device is that my employer will pay it though, so I'm going to get a new phone anyways, it's just that i've only got a certain budget and the G4 would fit the bill, I think

vadsvads said:
The M7 is by no means a bad device but changing the battery is nearly impossible on that thing. Also, because of a hardware failure which affected the whole M7 series, all my low-light photos look like this which renders the camera totally unusable is some situation.
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Service centre ? they do this work. replacing a camera module is no big deal either.
The strongest reason for me wanting to get a new device is that my employer will pay it though, so I'm going to get a new phone anyways, it's just that i've only got a certain budget and the G4 would fit the bill, I think
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What do you like about the G4 ? seems you are more interested in roms.

One Twelve said:
What do you like about the G4 ? seems you are more interested in roms.
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I'm not sure I'm even allowed to root the device since it's from my employer - Otherwise, the G4 is just an upgraded version of the G3, isn't it?
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vadsvads said:
I'm not sure I'm even allowed to root the device since it's from my employer - Otherwise, the G4 is just an upgraded version of the G3, isn't it?
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What made you choose LG ?

One Twelve said:
What made you choose LG ?
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Why do you wanna know? I just compared multiple phones (like the ones I already listed above) and I just like LGs approach when it comes to the removable battery and the choice to expand the storage via microSD
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vadsvads said:
Why do you wanna know? I just compared multiple phones (like the ones I already listed above) and I just like LGs approach when it comes to the removable battery and the choice to expand the storage via microSD
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That's what i wanted to know because some people don't care about that. Also you did not mention any other brands so was curious.
The G3 comes in two variants, 2 & 3GB RAM with storage of 16 & 32GB. The 3GB is the better choice. They did away with this in the G4 and its just 3GB and 32GB like the G2 and optimus G earlier for storage.
The G4 has a much better camera than the G3 which is the same one used in the G2 and flex models. The G3 is a capable auto shooter but the manual controls on the G4 mean more control and better low light ability. The aperture is 80% brighter.
The screen on the G4 is also better and brighter. This you will have to see for youself to decide. Then decide whether you are ok with the slight curve on the G4 that the G3 does not have. Roms will come in time but i see a number of people who are not bothered.
Have you seen the V10 ? will be more expensive since its 4GB and 64GB only. and the manual controls of the stills camera carry over to the video side as well. This right now isn't possible on the G4. The V10 is a little bigger though.
How much battery do you need ? mention your expected SOT/runtime.

I have H815 and have root, unlocked bootloader and flashed TWRP, please, get the G4. Getting a G3 is pointless. Think of the G4 as an optimised G3.

I had the g3 for a few days and it was full of lag and heat. Screen was also bad!
The G4 is a totally different phone. Everything about it is better except for size.

NocturnalDroid said:
I have H815 and have root, unlocked bootloader and flashed TWRP, please, get the G4. Getting a G3 is pointless. Think of the G4 as an optimised G3.
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Thanks for your feedback
One Twelve said:
Have you seen the V10 ? will be more expensive since its 4GB and 64GB only. and the manual controls of the stills camera carry over to the video side as well. This right now isn't possible on the G4. The V10 is a little bigger though.
How much battery do you need ? mention your expected SOT/runtime.
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I did hear about the V10, of course, but that will, at least on release, be way out of my price range of about 400-500€ I can use from my employer. Also, I can't add from my own money because law restrictions and stuff.
Battery-wise, I'm quite the heavy user - I commute about 2 hours a day by bus and have the screen on almost all the time, but battery's not really a concern for me as I have a 13k mAh powerbank and the possibility to charge at work.
I was also considering a Galaxy Note 3 or 4, as they also have microsd and a swappable battery but meh, it's TouchWiz. Also it's a teeny tiny bit too expensive for my budget.
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Is the M8 still worth it ?

Hey,
I have been struggling for a few months trying to pick my next phone, I've been using an ancient GS2 for at least 3 years now...
I was gonna go with the 6P but the SD810 is worrying me... And the M9 has that thing as well...
The M8 looks like a good choice.. I just have a few questions :
1- How is the dev community ?
- I usually stick with phones for at least 2 years, and I always like running the latest version of Android...
2- are AOSP ROMs stable ?
Coming from an Exynos device, it had countless issues with AOSP roms,... Lot's of stuff didn't work properly on AOSP.. Is it the same case here or everything is stable enough...
3- Is there any known hardware defective that are known about the phone.. Just to be careful when purchasing
4- How is the battery ? SOT ?
And finally, do you recommend to buy it, or there's better choices out there ?
Cheers..

biascoblix said:
Hey,
I have been struggling for a few months trying to pick my next phone, I've been using an ancient GS2 for at least 3 years now...
I was gonna go with the 6P but the SD810 is worrying me... And the M9 has that thing as well...
The M8 looks like a good choice.. I just have a few questions :
1- How is the dev community ?
- I usually stick with phones for at least 2 years, and I always like running the latest version of Android...
2- are AOSP ROMs stable ?
Coming from an Exynos device, it had countless issues with AOSP roms,... Lot's of stuff didn't work properly on AOSP.. Is it the same case here or everything is stable enough...
3- Is there any known hardware defective that are known about the phone.. Just to be careful when purchasing
4- How is the battery ? SOT ?
And finally, do you recommend to buy it, or there's better choices out there ?
Cheers..
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1. Great dev community(much options), about official software updates, 2 yrs of htc's commitment is ending in March 2016.
2. Most are stable, some MM are stil WIP
3. No hardware issues(like it was on One m7 with camera)
4. Depends on kernel and rom(with doze, battery drain is like 1-3% per night) i get ussualy 5hrs of sot, with tweaks and low brighteness i can get ~7hrs of sot
If you can find some good deal, go for it, great build/sound and fast UI. Camera is meh, but with proper angle and close shots, it's good enough.

Imotep95 said:
1. Great dev community(much options), about official software updates, 2 yrs of htc's commitment is ending in March 2016.
2. Most are stable, some MM are stil WIP
3. No hardware issues(like it was on One m7 with camera)
4. Depends on kernel and rom(with doze, battery drain is like 1-3% per night) i get ussualy 5hrs of sot, with tweaks and low brighteness i can get ~7hrs of sot
If you can find some good deal, go for it, great build/sound and fast UI. Camera is meh, but with proper angle and close shots, it's good enough.
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I don't really care about official support... I hate Android OEM skins... The first thing I do when I get a new device is usually installing an AOSP based ROM...
Currently, I can get one for around 340$.. That's from a local store..
They are on eBay for 260$~
But I'm from Egypt... So there's shipping and tax and stuff which gonna ramp the price to around 340 as well...
I'll probably go ahead and buy it from the local store...
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Concerning defective units... Were there any parts that were reported defective on units before... I have people reporting not working mics...
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and is there multiple models of the phone or is it just one ?

Its still worth it and the device has a official gpe (Google play edition) rom.

biascoblix said:
I don't really care about official support... I hate Android OEM skins... The first thing I do when I get a new device is usually installing an AOSP based ROM...
Currently, I can get one for around 340$.. That's from a local store..
They are on eBay for 260$~
But I'm from Egypt... So there's shipping and tax and stuff which gonna ramp the price to around 340 as well...
I'll probably go ahead and buy it from the local store...
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Concerning defective units... Were there any parts that were reported defective on units before... I have people reporting not working mics...
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and is there multiple models of the phone or is it just one ?
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Oh, there are plenty units out there...USA carriers,DEV Edition, ASIA WWE, WWE international... try to get wwe(unlocked version), btw you can do S-OFF($25) and RUU to whatever you want.

Just a quick viewpoint from me. I hate my M8. For the first 6 months it was great, then I had the camera lens issue (which was easily rectified with metal Polish but shouldn't have been a problem in the first place). Then my vibrate motor packed in. Then it came back to life a couple of weeks later but it folded again and has been dead for the past 4 months. I get random freezes on various roms and the battery gets so hot I can't hold my phone sometimes. Maybe I got a lemon (my wife got an M8 the same time as me, also had the camera lens issue bit nothing else) but it's really hurt my confidence in HTC. I've had HTC handsets almost exclusively for the past 11 years, and given how weak I view the A9 (or X9) I will be abandoning HTC thanks to how poor the M8 has been for me.
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Imotep95 said:
Oh, there are plenty units out there...USA carriers,DEV Edition, ASIA WWE, WWE international... try to get wwe(unlocked version), btw you can do S-OFF($25) and RUU to whatever you want.
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Yea, the one am getting is probably the unlocked international...
I'm new to HTC phones here, what exactly is S-OFF and RUU ?! ?

biascoblix said:
Yea, the one am getting is probably the unlocked international...
I'm new to HTC phones here, what exactly is S-OFF and RUU ?! ?
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S-off is like 100% unlock, you can flash firmwares, sound mods(with adsp) etc, RUU: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1656721
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dazultra2000 said:
Just a quick viewpoint from me. I hate my M8. For the first 6 months it was great, then I had the camera lens issue (which was easily rectified with metal Polish but shouldn't have been a problem in the first place). Then my vibrate motor packed in. Then it came back to life a couple of weeks later but it folded again and has been dead for the past 4 months. I get random freezes on various roms and the battery gets so hot I can't hold my phone sometimes. Maybe I got a lemon (my wife got an M8 the same time as me, also had the camera lens issue bit nothing else) but it's really hurt my confidence in HTC. I've had HTC handsets almost exclusively for the past 11 years, and given how weak I view the A9 (or X9) I will be abandoning HTC thanks to how poor the M8 has been for me.
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Hmm, Interesting.... Yea, HTC currently is in a really bad position, the A9 & X9 are certainly a joke... But I can't really find a good phone with an active dev community with the same price range...

Imotep95 said:
S-off is like 100% unlock, you can flash firmwares, sound mods(with adsp) etc, RUU: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1656721
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How do I know if it's S-off or not ?
and if the one i got was "S-on", Is it "S-off"able ?

biascoblix said:
How do I know if it's S-off or not ?
and if the one i got was "S-on", Is it "S-off"able ?
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Sure, its s off-able
S-On(security on), S-OFF(seurity off)
Yes, if its new, its S-ON, only dev edition comes with S-Off.
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Imotep95 said:
Sure, its s off-able
S-On(security on), S-OFF(seurity off)
Yes, if its new, its S-ON, only dev edition comes with S-Off.
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Okay, Thanks very much for your help...
I'll give myself a few days of more research.. but I'm probably going to get it... can't really find another alternative for the same price with an active dev community ..
Thanks again,
Cheers..
and oh, MERRY CHRISTMAS...

biascoblix said:
Hmm, Interesting.... Yea, HTC currently is in a really bad position, the A9 & X9 are certainly a joke... But I can't really find a good phone with an active dev community with the same price range...
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Yeah that's the bit that sucks the most, after all its the original HTC built XDA that bought this site to light many years ago. That's why I'm leaning closest to the Nexus 6P at the moment as a possible next phone as it doesn't need too much hacking to be what I want it to be. But I'm not 100% happy with the 6P either, but I don't want to wait another year to see if HTC can pull something decent out of their hat. M8 seriously ruined it for me
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dazultra2000 said:
Yeah that's the bit that sucks the most, after all its the original HTC built XDA that bought this site to light many years ago. That's why I'm leaning closest to the Nexus 6P at the moment as a possible next phone as it doesn't need too much hacking to be what I want it to be. But I'm not 100% happy with the 6P either, but I don't want to wait another year to see if HTC can pull something decent out of their hat. M8 seriously ruined it for me
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I really wanted to get the 6P but here's why I didn't..
1- SD810.... Just NO !!
2- A lot... I meant really A lot of defective units.. especially with the screen.. A lot of units are coming with irregular colored screens...
3- Price... yea, surely it's currently priced at 500$... but i'm afraid to use forwarding service to ship it to my country here coz of the huge amount of defective units.. and local retailers here selling it for 650$.. NO THANKS... and I can see you're from the UK, you're getting ripped off.. it's roughly about 700$ for the 6P in the UK !!

biascoblix said:
I don't really care about official support... I hate Android OEM skins... The first thing I do when I get a new device is usually installing an AOSP based ROM...
Currently, I can get one for around 340$.. That's from a local store..
They are on eBay for 260$~
But I'm from Egypt... So there's shipping and tax and stuff which gonna ramp the price to around 340 as well...
I'll probably go ahead and buy it from the local store...
___
Concerning defective units... Were there any parts that were reported defective on units before... I have people reporting not working mics...
___
and is there multiple models of the phone or is it just one ?
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I switched from the HTC One M7 to the M8 - 2 months ago for the same price of 350$. Got it off Ebay. It was an imported T-mobile version from U.S unlocked, so there is no warranty. If you're getting it at the local store with warranty I'd suggest picking it.
Good stuff I've noticed:
The phones battery is a quite a difference from the M7. The battery is slightly larger and the processor is more efficient. 2 months later with Skydragons Sense Rom with Marshmallow, the battery life is still great.
The M7 gave 1 hour 30 minutes to 2 hours of On screen time (If I was not gaming much) , while this phone goes beyond 3.5 hours. It lasts over a day with moderate use and gaming.
The phone doesn't heat up crazy like the M7 did. Expect it to get warm, it's metal build.
The speakers are much louder than the M7. Along with this factor and the amazing battery life I was convinced that the phone was worth upgrading to.
The camera is decent and rather nice in low light conditions. However if camera is really important to you I'd suggest avoiding this phone.
HTC Sense is way better than stock android. The launcher itself is so handy. Music player is the best I've used, simple and effective.
The phone feels exotic in the hand, super premium.
Sound output without the equalizer(Boomsound) is hands down one of the best you will get.
Huge development community.
Has SD card support which the previous phone didn't have.
Cons:
Boomsound on earphones and headphones is really atrocious. The Beats Audio which was on the M7 was waaaayyy better! If you get this phone, just turn off boomsound on headphones.
The phone is curvy and hence becomes super slippery, just be careful handing the device, it's prone to slipping out of your hand. Worth mentioning this phone is heavy.
Dual Camera at the back is gimmicky.
Some of the OEM's software is poorly implemented and of late HTC has been messing some of them up. Example: Blinkfeed with ads and recommendations, HTC TV and Notes.
Has on screen buttons instead of the HTC M7's capacitve. And on screen buttons are rubbish.
The speaker grilles trap dirt easier than the previous model, you can however use a tooth brush or needle to clean them.
The power button is on top and a pain to reach. Doesn't help that the phone is taller than the M7 .
The top camera in the back can get damaged due to poor protection as compared to the main camera. You can still click photos, but can't use the dual camera effects. Also you will keep getting an error message "Dual camera is blocked..."
Defective Models: Yes there are models which ship with the dual camera damaged. If you get an opportunity to test out the phone first, check the camera. If you get the dual camera is blocked - just request if he can drop the price for you further. You will still be able to use the main camera.
This phone is not perfect and is HTC's Rough Diamond. With the processor, sound quality and dev support, I'd recommend it.

dar87 said:
I switched from the HTC One M7 to the M8 - 2 months ago for the same price of 350$. Got it off Ebay. It was an imported T-mobile version from U.S unlocked, so there is no warranty. If you're getting it at the local store with warranty I'd suggest picking it.
Good stuff I've noticed:
The phones battery is a quite a difference from the M7. The battery is slightly larger and the processor is more efficient. 2 months later with Skydragons Sense Rom with Marshmallow, the battery life is still great.
The M7 gave 1 hour 30 minutes to 2 hours of On screen time (If I was not gaming much) , while this phone goes beyond 3.5 hours. It lasts over a day with moderate use and gaming.
The phone doesn't heat up crazy like the M7 did. Expect it to get warm, it's metal build.
The speakers are much louder than the M7. Along with this factor and the amazing battery life I was convinced that the phone was worth upgrading to.
The camera is decent and rather nice in low light conditions. However if camera is really important to you I'd suggest avoiding this phone.
HTC Sense is way better than stock android. The launcher itself is so handy. Music player is the best I've used, simple and effective.
The phone feels exotic in the hand, super premium.
Sound output without the equalizer(Boomsound) is hands down one of the best you will get.
Huge development community.
Has SD card support which the previous phone didn't have.
Cons:
Boomsound on earphones and headphones is really atrocious. The Beats Audio which was on the M7 was waaaayyy better! If you get this phone, just turn off boomsound on headphones.
The phone is curvy and hence becomes super slippery, just be careful handing the device, it's prone to slipping out of your hand. Worth mentioning this phone is heavy.
Dual Camera at the back is gimmicky.
Some of the OEM's software is poorly implemented and of late HTC has been messing some of them up. Example: Blinkfeed with ads and recommendations, HTC TV and Notes.
Has on screen buttons instead of the HTC M7's capacitve. And on screen buttons are rubbish.
The speaker grilles trap dirt easier than the previous model, you can however use a tooth brush or needle to clean them.
The power button is on top and a pain to reach. Doesn't help that the phone is taller than the M7 .
The top camera in the back can get damaged due to poor protection as compared to the main camera. You can still click photos, but can't use the dual camera effects. Also you will keep getting an error message "Dual camera is blocked..."
Defective Models: Yes there are models which ship with the dual camera damaged. If you get an opportunity to test out the phone first, check the camera. If you get the dual camera is blocked - just request if he can drop the price for you further. You will still be able to use the main camera.
This phone is not perfect and is HTC's Rough Diamond. With the processor, sound quality and dev support, I'd recommend it.
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Thanks for that detailed comment...
I'm coming from the phone that was barely able to shot decent 720p videos
literally anything would be an upgrade for me... the M8 is great compared to its price...
and the dual camera is a joke, i know that.. I'll probably be running AOSP roms which I don't think utilize it anyway...

biascoblix said:
Thanks for that detailed comment...
I'm coming from the phone that was barely able to shot decent 720p videos
literally anything would be an upgrade for me... the M8 is great compared to its price...
and the dual camera is a joke, i know that.. I'll probably be running AOSP roms which I don't think utilize it anyway...
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You might want to try a GPE Rom like this instead of an AOSP one.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2706391

dar87 said:
You might want to try a GPE Rom like this instead of an AOSP one.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2706391
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That looks great... Can't wait to get my hands on the phone... I'm gonna be buying it asap..

A little update

What's up guys. I'm using my LG G4 for a hard year now. I'm on RR ROM with custom kernel, but i think that the end is near for my phone. The question is, HTC 10's worth all the money? I had an One S 3 years ago and it was a beast. Soo, should I buy it? Thanks in advance

I've come from a LG g3, quite a difference and takes some getting used to. Feels too small to start with, no wireless charging/removable battery, flashing is cumbersome, but... wicked quality, fast, sound quite good, battery life seems good, camera very good (and in low light) I'm unlocked, not rooted yet , looking forward to custom kernels and watching this move from fast to lightning
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azZA_09 said:
What's up guys. I'm using my LG G4 for a hard year now. I'm on RR ROM with custom kernel, but i think that the end is near for my phone. The question is, HTC 10's worth all the money? I had an One S 3 years ago and it was a beast. Soo, should I buy it? Thanks in advance
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Simply. Yes. :laugh:
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