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Webtop hack keyboard to use

I'm basically looking to buy a bluetooth keyboard and mouse to use for the Webtop hack. I've seen the cheap mini ones on ebay but are those worth it? Any suggestions?
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I bought a Flashpoint iBoard and waiting for it to ship. It's essentially an apple clone, but i dont think it's cheaply made. Did some research, and supposedly the company making it sold it almost right after apple made their's. Problem was that they MSRP'd it around the same price as the apple keyboard, so it didnt sell thus lower it's price. SO, Anodized Aluminum Construction and free rubber cover all for less than 40 bucks on amazon sounds, good to me.

I just use my Apple bluetooth keyboard. I've also used an iGo Stowaway keyboard, both work just fine.

Any will work, even a cheapo will do.
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but apple keyboard and mouse bluethoot in the same time on???
I want use bougth...how I can do that?

EclipseX said:
but apple keyboard and mouse bluethoot in the same time on???
I want use bougth...how I can do that?
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In webtop mode, the bluetooth mouse works as well, but not out of it. There's not way to adjust the acceleration and the mouse flies through all the desktops on the phone just touching the mouse.

The Logitech DiNovo keyboard works well. I think any bluetooth keyboard with a touchpad would work pretty well. As mentioned, sensitivity is fairly high, so touchpads work quite well.

i tried my apple magic mouse, that works, but i can't get my apple Bluetooth keyboard to work...

fventura03 said:
i tried my apple magic mouse, that works, but i can't get my apple Bluetooth keyboard to work...
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Right after you type the pin on the phone, type it on the keyboard.

Hm. Bluetooth Mouses?

Hello,
Well, I have the Logitech Bluetooth Keyboard for Android 3.0+.
And then I was wondering....
They have a Logitech Bluetooth Mouse for Android 3.1+
It's 49.95 and it seems expensive to me.
I was wondering if there are any other Bluetooth mouses that I can use fine with my Gtab10.1 that are not so expensive.
If anyone can give me links to any sites and products that work well for this, please reply.
Thanks!

I wish they made it a little thinner, but I'm glad they are marketing specifically to Android. *warm fuzzy*
So I'm tempted to get the logitech just for the latter fact, but will probably wait for something a little more portable.
I'll report back if I find anything noteworthy.

Yea, same here. And thanks!

Any BT Mouse will work with Galaxy tab running 3.1.
I'm using Logitech V470 and no issues!

Yanluk said:
Any BT Mouse will work with Galaxy tab running 3.1.
I'm using Logitech V470 and no issues!
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I can confirm this, I have the same mouse and it works excellent with the tablet.

Any recommended bt mouse out there? Needs to be small and ligtweigt
Hate using the usb adapter when browsing with a mouse...

kjgear said:
I wish they made it a little thinner, but I'm glad they are marketing specifically to Android. *warm fuzzy*
So I'm tempted to get the logitech just for the latter fact, but will probably wait for something a little more portable.
I'll report back if I find anything noteworthy.
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I went ahead and ordered the Android Logitech because I'm a nerd.
Unfortunately, I selected free shipping through Amazon and it will be a long 5-10 business days for me.
As I said, I wish it was a tad thinner, but as long as it fits in my Tab bag then I'll be happy.

Doesn't have to be bluetooth
My roommate picked up a wireless mouse that uses a tiny usb receiver for use with his Toshiba Thrive. He plugged it in and the mouse worked without a hitch. For giggles, I tossed my usb adapter on and then inserted the usb receiver, and it worked with my Galaxy Tab right away... Until I find the perfect bluetooth mouse, I might simply pick up a Microsoft Arc mouse or something similar that folds away nice and flat.
Food for thought.
Mike

kjgear said:
I wish they made it a little thinner
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Okay, I got this little fella in the mail last night and it is not as big as it looks from the online pictures. If it was thinner I think it would be very uncomfortable. I'm still playing with it. If I get a chance tonight I'll make a short video and show ya'll what's up with my little blue buddy.

Yanluk said:
Any BT Mouse will work with Galaxy tab running 3.1.
I'm using Logitech V470 and no issues!
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The Android mouse is well made and connected easily, but right-click does not seem to work and highlighting text is buggy or doesn't work at all.
How is the V470 with that?
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My exhaustive analysis of Android Gaming Controllers.

I love the idea of android devices as a portable gaming console. They now have all the power of last gen consoles at least, the batteries last forever, tons of ports (usb, HDMI, BT), great built in screens and they're super portable. I started out just messing around on my Incredible, later had a GTab (which was a really early device that worked ok but had a bad screen) and now have a Xoom running ICS and have a Galaxy Nexus on the way.
Native android gaming is coming along nicely now to the point where I have about 50 games on my tab. Many of them are free or were daily deals on the Amazon store. Many of them I bought full price. All in all I've probably spent $50 on games. Some of them aren't so great, others are suprisingly good and the situation gets better every day.
I also enjoy a bit of emulation. Before you get all upity the only games I have been playing are ones I actually have the cartridge for. Mostly I have just been playing through Chrono Trigger (which I own so **** you!) along with the Giant Bomb endurance run.
Recently Onlive was also released for android and it is pretty impressive how well games play with even average internet connections. If you haven't tried this out you should. It's free and you can trial all games or up to one hour which is a service with value alone.
All 3 of these gaming experiences can benefit from one thing.
A CONTROLLER!
I have previously used a Wiimote and classic controller with an IME app which works well enough but having the Wiimote hanging off the controller as nothing but a bluetooth dongle is annoying and kinda kills the whole point of having a wireless controller in the first place. Datel apparently made a classic controller with the transmitter and battery built in for a while but I wasn't able to find any for purchase anywhere.
Next a few months back app started to hit the market that let you use the Dualshock 3 with Android devices. This is a pretty good solution. The DS3 is a great controller and the setup is reasonably painless. You just have to connect the controller to a desktop and run an app there to bind the controller to your android device. After that you run an app on the device each time you want to use the controller. You'll also have to configure the controls within some games for the controller layout. Not too bad but if you use the controller for your ps3 as well you'll have to plug it into the PS3 to reset it then connect it to your PC to get t back on the droid device. Now I use the PS3 with BT for my desktop using MotionJoy's software and switching between it and the droid is even more of a hassle which I won't go into because I haven't even figured out a reasonably quick method. Since both devices are using the controller via a weird workaround this isn't really surprising.
So today I went looking again and found 2 new options. A while back Gamestop announced they would be carrying 'Gaming Tablets' and as part of it they were going to be selling a wireless gamepad. Well apparently they have started getting them and I found one in stock on my commute home. First impressions were that the device feels cheap. At the $40 I paid it's already a bit overpriced but that according to the website is a discount from the original price of $99 which would be highway robbery. Though the button layout is essentially the same as a PS3 controller the device doesn't feel anything like a DS3 or a 360 controller. It's much lighter. The plastic is cheap and I'm sure with use, will begin to creek. It just feels like cheap Chinese construction. I'm not sure but I think the device is all digital, in fact I think all they did was essentially wrap a gamepad around a bluetooth keyboard. The triggers are digital for sure but the 2 sticks might be analog though I don't think so. They do feel decent with a good resistance on the springs. The D-pad is less exciting and feel mushy. The other buttons are serviceable, nothing particularly good or bad about them. They are two shoulder buttons on each side with 2 of them shaped like triggers and then the four normal face buttons (labelled 1-4 instead of the square, triangle etc as in the product page image). There are also four other buttons on the face which are the power button, the pair button, escape and enter. The power button is obvious but it should be noted the device powers on and off in a second or 2. The pair button is likewise pretty normal. The escape and enter buttons seem to be like the back button and action respectively in android which is kind of nice. It lets you use the controller as a general purpose remote for your tab. This is particularly nice if you want to use it for media on a TV with HDMI. What this means is that you don't really have a start and select button on the face. The left stick seems to be mapped to standard keyboard arrow keys while the right stick and the D-pad are mapped to letters or numbers. The device has a rechargeable cell which is nice and this is charged from a standard USB port. I'm not sure yet about battery life but it seemed to get a full charge after about half hour.
Considering the lack of other dedicated options for tablets this device isn't all bad. It does what it should. It requires no apps or setup other than pairing up to your device which takes seconds. It also powers on and off in seconds and each reconnection is near instant. Also it should be noted that this should work with any BT enabled android device. I don't think there are any version restrictions.
I have tested it with a snes emulator which it works perfectly with. I also tried GTA3 for Android, in which I was able to run around, grab a car and drive by default. I could probably get it working well enough if I took some time to config the controls in game.
All in all this device is a bit of a tough sell at $40 especially if you have a PS3 controller already and don't mind the relatively minor hassles that entails. If you can find one for $20 or even $30 its would be much more reasonable.
I was thinking the device might be mod-able due to it being so light. I have seen some people get things like the MSI BT controller fit into a snes controller frame. Unlike those devices though this is essentially one large PCB with the button contacts right on it except for the shoulder buttons and analog sticks. This would limit options. Maybe someone will find some good options but that will only increase the cost of course.
Product page:
http://www.gamestop.com/android/accessories/tablet-wireless-bluetooth-controller/97838
The second option I found today is much sexier but a little pricier. It is the Onlive Universal Wireless Controller which I have high hopes for. Everything I have read about it seems to indicate the level of material quality is much higher. Also it requires Honeycomb or ICS which means it isn't just a BT keyboard. Full Onlive support is obvious and again according to my reading it comes with a BT dongle for use with the PC but I'm hoping it will work with my standard dongle for simplicity. The device even comes with a rechargeable pack and a AA cartridge just like the 360 controllers which is a nice feature. When connected to a PC you can use up to 4 of them with one dongle which is nice. Perhaps the tablet will be able to support multiple controllers as well but I haven't read anything about that yet, There are also a number of media buttons on the controller which could prove convenient. I'm hoping this will let me replace both the Gamestop controller for my tab and my DS3 for my PC while being able to switch easily between them.
http://www.onlive.com/controller
Anyway, I ordered one tonight and I'll probably write something up about it next week.

Nice review. I was considering the Gamestop controller but now might wait.
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I'm looking forward to your onlive controller review. at $50.. that's definitely a hard sell, but given the service you pair that with.. negligable.

Subscribing.. thanks for this!
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Don't forget, zeemote is another option for a compact bluetooth controller.

lordgodgeneral said:
Don't forget, zeemote is another option for a compact bluetooth controller.
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I have seen that device. It just seemed like with only directional and one (maybe 2) buttons the device doesn't really support much. I'll have to look into it more. Maybe if I can find one cheap I'll grab it and take a look.
PS My Onlive controller should arrive tomorrow so I'll get something written up on it likely by the end of the week.

btate0121 said:
I'm looking forward to your onlive controller review. at $50.. that's definitely a hard sell, but given the service you pair that with.. negligable.
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$50 is a bit steep but for me anyway I'll probably be able to sell off my PS3 controller which I just use for my PC now and use the onlive controller. If I get $40 for the PS3 it turns out to be pretty much a wash. I know that's probably not the case for most but it may help some. Anyway we'll see how good it is soon

Looking forward to the review of the OnLive controller!!
I have a PS3 and 2 controllers but the kids use them (nearly) every day so I really can't use one of those and switch it around all the time.
Also I don't believe the PS3 controller can be paired with 2 different Android devices at the same time. Eh, I don't mean real-time concurrency, I mean I don't think I can have it set up on both my Bionic and Xoom and switch between them without having to set it all up again on the PC. If I'm wrong about that please correct me! If the OnLive controller can do that I'll be sold!

I want one of these
http://www.theverge.com/2012/1/10/2...n-iphone-android-gamepad-controller-announced

beowolfschaefer said:
$50 is a bit steep but for me anyway I'll probably be able to sell off my PS3 controller which I just use for my PC now and use the onlive controller. If I get $40 for the PS3 it turns out to be pretty much a wash. I know that's probably not the case for most but it may help some. Anyway we'll see how good it is soon
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I agree that $50 for just any old regular controller is robbery. LOL. I refuse to buy brand new xbox controllers for that reason. But one controller that can be used on multiple platforms.. meh.. i can mentally justify that.. though I'd rather not ya know? LOL.
in the meantime i discovered an app called "BT Controller" that lets you use one android device to control the other. so I'm going from my GS2 to the Xoom
Ad supported - https://market.android.com/details?...GwsMSwyLDEsImRyb2lkYmVhbi5idGNvbnRyb2xsZXIiXQ..
Paid version ($1) - https://market.android.com/details?...DEwOSwiZHJvaWRiZWFuLmJ0Y29udHJvbGxlcmZ1bGwiXQ..
it's not PERFECT but it works.

Looks like the app uses airpush avoid like the plague.
(Doesn't even mention it supports the xperia play which would be the obvious choice).

beowolfschaefer said:
Anyway we'll see how good it is soon
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Not that I'm trying to rush you or anything..... But did ya get it yet? Did ya?! Did ya?! Did ya?!

I completely forgot about the onlive controller. I got a promotional email a few days ago from onlive where if you pre purchased their new soccer game 39.99 full play pass, they were actually giving away the entire gaming system for free. I just checked offer expired today. That really sucks, I was so.busy last week I only glanced at the offer. Basically for 40$ you'd get the game which came out today and the wireless controller setup along with their consule box to hook up to any TV. Which costs 99.99 alone, I should of jumped at the offer instead of waiting. Let me know how it work, so I can kick myself for now I'll have to pay 50 just for the controller
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Wiimote?
I used a Wiimote with Gensoid today using the Wiimote Controller app from the marketplace, didn't realise it was so easy - worked straight off with only minor hassle of having to switch between Wiimote and Keyboard input manually. Great for those old 3 and 2 button controller games!

mowgli.je said:
I used a Wiimote with Gensoid today using the Wiimote Controller app from the marketplace, didn't realise it was so easy - worked straight off with only minor hassle of having to switch between Wiimote and Keyboard input manually. Great for those old 3 and 2 button controller games!
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I downloaded it and tried it out based on your post, works great with nesoid! I had a few setup and mapping issues but once I got those sorted everything is working fantastic.

Dual Shock all the way
I am also impressed with the gaming capability of the Xoom and I have been enjoying playing Modern Combat 3. Using a decent controller makes all the difference and my controller of choice is the Dual Shock controller from my PS3.
It is true that it cannot be paired with two devices at once, which is a bit annoying, but it works really well. I cannot I imagine why anyone would pay $50 for a controller that is not as good. Just buy a Dual Shock controller and the SixAxis application and you're all set.

Bluetooth Android Keyboard

Hi guys,
Do any Note owners use a bluetooth keyboard? (and mouse?)
Instead of buying a PC for my bedroom which I don't really need, I am just gonna connect my Note to my TV using the HDMI cable but it would be nice if I had a decent keyboard and mouse to use when browsing the web. They do not have to be tiny since they will be used at home but does anyone have any recommendations?
Thanks!
Pictures, videos, links welcome.

AdzUK said:
Hi guys,
Do any Note owners use a bluetooth keyboard? (and mouse?)
Instead of buying a PC for my bedroom which I don't really need, I am just gonna connect my Note to my TV using the HDMI cable but it would be nice if I had a decent keyboard and mouse to use when browsing the web. They do not have to be tiny since they will be used at home but does anyone have any recommendations?
Thanks!
Pictures, videos, links welcome.
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Honestly man they all work equally well. I have the Motorola BT keyboard and it's very comfortable. It includes the media features like the play/pause/stop/skip/and volume as well as some shortcut buttons for the browser, music, back, and home button. It's nice and easy to use. I also have the logitech mouse and it works nicely. But it's really up to what would be most comfortable to you as they all work pretty much the same.

This one looks good
http://www.logitech.com/en-au/tablet-accessories/keyboards/devices/tablet-keyboard-android
I am am looking at the iPad version.
Cheers

that states Android 3.0+ is the bluetooth protocol versions the same between GB and HC?
SOLVED: online reviews have this paired to older phones and tablets with FROYO and GB.. so yup its all ok.
PPCApache said:
This one looks good
http://www.logitech.com/en-au/tablet-accessories/keyboards/devices/tablet-keyboard-android
I am am looking at the iPad version.
Cheers
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There are smaller cheaper ones that fit into the pocket
https://www.amltelecom.com/kleinhandel/products/Mini-Bluetooth-Keyboard.html for example

PPCApache said:
This one looks good
http://www.logitech.com/en-au/tablet-accessories/keyboards/devices/tablet-keyboard-android
I am am looking at the iPad version.
Cheers
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It looks very nice, but a tad too expensive.
Any other recommendations for a bluetooth keyboard & mouse set for the Galaxy Note???
(I am assuming it has to be bluetooth since I will be using the MHL cable to connect to a TV.)

omac_ranger said:
Honestly man they all work equally well. I have the Motorola BT keyboard and it's very comfortable. It includes the media features like the play/pause/stop/skip/and volume as well as some shortcut buttons for the browser, music, back, and home button. It's nice and easy to use. I also have the logitech mouse and it works nicely. But it's really up to what would be most comfortable to you as they all work pretty much the same.
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Which one do you have and how much was it, do you have a link please?

AdzUK said:
It looks very nice, but a tad too expensive.
Any other recommendations for a bluetooth keyboard & mouse set for the Galaxy Note???
(I am assuming it has to be bluetooth since I will be using the MHL cable to connect to a TV.)
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I have the logitech keyboard and it does not work with the stock rooted GB note OOTB. I am waiting for ICS to troubleshoot it if I will even need to. Supposedly it will work with anything above android 3.0. It does come with a very nice multi-function case/stand though, so when it does work with the note I will probably begin carrying it instead of my laptop.

http://www.ebay.it/itm/TASTIERA-MIN...pt=Tastiere&hash=item1e687a6e8f#ht_4256wt_952
or
http://www.ebay.it/itm/Wireless-Min...Trackballs&hash=item3a651a8585#ht_6476wt_1185

I am using an iGo stowayay kbd. works pretty good
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I'm using the Freedom Pro keyboard. Works great.
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got my pretty HP WebOS BT Keyboard QWERTZ for 22Euro from amazon
works with normal batteries, extra functions: back, for music: play/pause, loud+-, silent
also using I-Tec Bluetouch 243 laser mouse (small to midsize, nice to use)
with on/off switch,
3 cursor speeds,
pressing scrollwheel opens menu
(the 2 additional side buttons so far without function on my note)

I found this one on ebay and would like to try it:
It's 14$, it is big enough for 10 finger writing and it looks very nice. Has anyone maybe tried it?
Wireless Keyboard 6mm Ultra Slim Aluminium Bluetooth 3.5 For PC Macbook Mac iPad
I can't post links, but you can find it in ebay for about $14.
It seems to be made mainly for Apple devices, do you guys think it will work with Android as well?

NoteUser1 said:
I found this one on ebay and would like to try it:
It's 14$, it is big enough for 10 finger writing and it looks very nice. Has anyone maybe tried it?
Wireless Keyboard 6mm Ultra Slim Aluminium Bluetooth 3.5 For PC Macbook Mac iPad
I can't post links, but you can find it in ebay for about $14.
It seems to be made mainly for Apple devices, do you guys think it will work with Android as well?
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If it's a Bluetooth keyboard you're pretty much guaranteed that it will work
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Bluetooth Mouse and Keyboard

Has anyone tried using both a bluetooth mouse and keboard? I want to use both to take notes in class, read powerpoints, etc. Mostly easy basic stuff like that.
I am thinking of getting the Minisuit keyboard since it seems to balance well inside the slot. I don't want a full case, so this seems like the best option for me right now. unless some can tell me of an option that comes with a stand like this, that is cheaper....
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Tablet-Keyboard-Windows-Android3-0/dp/B009JPBPWO/ref=dp_ob_title_ce
The mouse part is confusing me. There seem to be a lot of brands I'm not familiar with. And many mice with poor reviews. Does anyone have experience with one that has worked well at a fair price?
Thanks!
EDIT: Or will any basic bluetooth mouse work? I figured it had to be designed to work with android.

drewmey said:
Has anyone tried using both a bluetooth mouse and keboard? I want to use both to take notes in class, read powerpoints, etc. Mostly easy basic stuff like that.
I am thinking of getting the Minisuit keyboard since it seems to balance well inside the slot. I don't want a full case, so this seems like the best option for me right now. unless some can tell me of an option that comes with a stand like this, that is cheaper....
http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Tablet-Keyboard-Windows-Android3-0/dp/B009JPBPWO/ref=dp_ob_title_ce
The mouse part is confusing me. There seem to be a lot of brands I'm not familiar with. And many mice with poor reviews. Does anyone have experience with one that has worked well at a fair price?
Thanks!
EDIT: Or will any basic bluetooth mouse work? I figured it had to be designed to work with android.
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I've used the Logitech K810 keyboard successfully, and I've used Microsoft's Wedge mouse successfully, but I couldn't get both of them to work at the same time. I did not troubleshoot, and it's possible there's a way to fix the glitch, I'm just reporting my experience.
I love the Logitech keyboard. Originally I bought it for occasional use and traveling, but it's so good that I use it as my everyday keyboard at my desk. Just as advertised, it pairs smoothly with up to three devices. When I use it at my desk, I use a regular (not Bluetooth) wireless mouse.

My Anker Ultra-Slim keyboard and Microsoft Notebook Mouse 5000 work together just fine on my 2013 N7. Sometimes I first have to unpair and re-pair them to get them to connect but after that they work.

I use Logitech K810 keyboard and T610 mouse. Both are Bluetooth and you can switch when using it with your PC or MacBook.
Works great... But the problem is that the mouse sometimes just last out of the blue. Had to reboot. There is a thread in Google forums that discussed this and this is a known flaw that Google has not fixed.