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[Q] Which root method?

I had my WF S S-OFF today and now I am looking forward for rooting it. But I am a bit confused about something: I read a tut about rooting WF S 2.3.3 Gingerbread with Gingerbreak apk and I also found this rooting tut on this site : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1195275
I didn't tried before being sure to not mess up with my device. So does both methods work or which one is preferred?
Thanks a lot !

My bad, wrong post... linked to the same thread
Good luck dude!

Run gingerbreak, device will restart. You are then rooted.

so you say I don't have to install custom recovery and other stuff to root it ? Just gingerbreak will be okay?

Yes unless you want to have custom roms, then you will need to install a custom recovery which can be found in the development section.

Do I have a chance to restore back the original recovery in case of visiting service if phone gets messed up?
I am wondering if it's possible to use gingerbreak, then install nandroid get everything backed up (not sure if it backups the original recovery in the phone) then un apply gingerbreak and then install custom recovery.
So this way I can restore the backup with original rom and original recovery. Is something like that possible?
Edit :
Is it a good idea / practice to install Clockword Rom Manager as it will replace the recovery menu that I have to install for rooting the device? I am not planning to checkout roms for now, but was just wondering

Nandroid backup is in the custom recovery. You can remove everything if you just install a RUU. Also you cannot backup the original recovery as you need a custom recovery to backup your ROM.

So best practice is using tut on xda, then install Clockword Rom Manager to install nandroid also and take full backup and then play with the phone?
So did i get it correct ?

Yeah, but make sure you install the CWM from the development here or else it won't work. It's very simple to install it. As your phone is S-off you can install the recovery and then backup the original unrooted rom and keep that as a backup.

So
1-) I follow this tut : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1195275
2-) Then install this CWM : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1213229
3-) Then with using nandroid (I think it's included with CWM? I read something like that on a site) I will take backup of my whole phone (I still wonder how it will backup unrooted version of rom eventho it's rooted)
4-) Remove unnecessary branded stuff (I don't know how to do that, any app for that?)
5-) Then just mess with the phone.
So my last questions is : When I install RUU, it will get back to stock recovery, and when i install the unrooted backup it will be like a legal phone right ? (Of course i will turn S-OFF back)
Sorry for asking noob questions, It's my first time using android phone and it's been only few days since i bought it

You got it all right, except if you have never updated the phone, as there was an update which blocked gingerbreak you don't need to do most of it.
Also when you flash the RUU it will all go stock. S-off will remain as it can't be turned on. Not to my knowledge anyway.

I think I wont use gingerbreak method, I checked for updates when I bought it and it said no updates. So probably that fix is already included in the WF S :/
I didn't managed to find RUU for WF S somehow but i guess for now I don't need it.
Today the guy at service shop (for breaking S-OFF) said that there is way for user to set S-OFF back, but he said he doesn't know the exact way. I thought hard reset will fix it
Thanks a lot for your help !

No problem, also you could just run gingerbreak first just to see if it does work without following the other steps.

[Q] Is custom recovery necessary to maintain root

Hi there!
I know i have to search through the forums to see if there is a post similar to the one i'm about to write now. So if there is a similar post like this out there, i have not seen it and i apologize.
An now to the core of my problem:
Basically the title is my question. I have just flashed a stock RUU on my phone and updated it via HTC's OTA, but i want to gain root and still maintain the ability to get OTA updates - Which, as far as i know, requires a stock recovery image. Is it possible to flash the stock recovery after gaining root-access and keep the phone rooted?

Yes, you flash a custom recovery to obtain root that's good, after this you flash back the stock recovery you still be rooted, the root is in the rom and not in the recovery !
So you are correct :thumbup:

Mr Hofs said:
Yes, you flash a custom recovery to obtain root that's good, after this you flash back the stock recovery you still be rooted, the root is in the rom and not in the recovery !
So you are correct :thumbup:
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Thanks a lot, that's awesome. By the way, now that i have updated to stock 4.1.1, is the root procedure precisely the same as it was with ICS; Can i use precisely the same superuser zip and unlock token i used when the phone was on ICS?

Yes you can ! Its exactly the same .... and to give you a tip :
After you flashed the custom recovery please do a nandroid backup from the backup & restore option in the recovery, if you want to change things to the rom after that you have a safe backup to go back to when you need to update or have any other problem. :thumbup:

Mr Hofs said:
Yes you can ! Its exactly the same .... and to give you a tip :
After you flashed the custom recovery please do a nandroid backup from the backup & restore option in the recovery, if you want to change things to the rom after that you have a safe backup to go back to when you need to update or have any other problem. :thumbup:
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I know, i certainly intend on doing just that. When i read the post on how to get the phone back to stock and i read the part about how to do it from a nandroid backup, i seriously face palmed myself! Back when i was still using my HTC Desire, i never considered the nandroid backup because the stock software was so incredibly bad that i never wanted to go back. But now i will, my experience with the stock software is far better on the One X.
Thanks a lot for your help

[Q] How to proceed to S-Off,boot loader unlock,sim unlock from stock?

Hello friends, I just got a new refurbished rogers(canada) HTC M8 GSM phone.Its totally stock at this moment and would like to do sim unlock,s-off and boot loader unlock. But before i would like to get full back up of my stock.Few questions:
1.How can i do full complete backup of my stock phone in case in future i need to revert back?
2. what are the steps to do s-off,sim unlock and bootloader unlock?
Right now phone says:
Android version 4.4.3
HTC sence version 6.0
software number 2.23.631.2
HTC SDK API level 6.25
kernel version
3.4.0--g523xxxxxx
baseband version
1.19.2133xxxxxxxx
build number
2.23.631.xxxxxxxrelease-keys
Thanks in advance...

Go to HTCDev.com to unlock the bootloader. The process is self-explanatory (just follow the website instructions). There is a writeup on the following guide, if you need help. But honestly, if you can follow instruction, the process is self-explanatory as I mentioned: http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/general/vomerguides-m8-bootldr-unlock-s-off-t2800727
Then, to backup the stock ROM and recovery, follow the instructions listed on the following thread under "How do i backup the stock HTC recovery?" : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2701376
This process will boot custom recovery without actually flashing recovery it to the phone, allowing you to backup stock recovery as well as the stock ROM (if you flash custom recovery before doing this, stock recovery is over-written and therefore can't be backed up). Note that your version's stock ROM and recovery may already be uploaded to the above thread by another XDA user.
Then achieve root by your preferred method (flash custom recovery and flash SU/SuperSU, or use weaksauce, towelroot, etc.). Then use sunshine to achieve s-off (firewater s-off will likely not work, as it was patched some time ago): http://theroot.ninja/
Then after s-off, you can unlock SIM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2708572

Thanks a lot redpont73 for your directions!!!Will follow your steps and let you know how things went..Thanks

Ok i unlocked my bootloader with htcdev.com and it says unlocked now.
Now how to backup my stock at this point? I tried this thread you showed me: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2701376 but didn't understand fully. but it says :fastboot boot recovery_filename.img (this does not work on the latest 3.xx firmwares !!! we need to get the stock recoveries from the OTA files)"
I am little confused at this point.How can i back up at this point without installing any recovery software like twrp?please guide me.thanks

ninja_zx11 said:
Now how to backup my stock at this point? I tried this thread you showed me: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2701376 but didn't understand fully. but it says :fastboot boot recovery_filename.img (this does not work on the latest 3.xx firmwares !!! we need to get the stock recoveries from the OTA files)"
I am little confused at this point.How can i back up at this point without installing any recovery software like twrp?
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By placing the custom recovery image in your fastboot folder, you can then boot recovery without actually flashing it to the phone, using the command you quoted. Think of it as remotely running the TWRP software that is still located on your PC (at least I think that is how it works).
Once you are booted into TWRP, you can backup system (stock ROM) and recovery(stock recovery).

redpoint73 said:
By placing the custom recovery image in your fastboot folder, you can then boot recovery without actually flashing it to the phone, using the command you quoted. Think of it as remotely running the TWRP software that is still located on your PC (at least I think that is how it works).
Once you are booted into TWRP, you can backup system (stock ROM) and recovery(stock recovery).
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Could you please help me to find the custom recovery image that i can put in my fast boot folder and please step by step if you don't mind please.Just trying to learn and don't want to brick my phone with any wrong move.thanks

i found this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=53770286&postcount=4
Will that help?thanks

ninja_zx11 said:
i found this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=53770286&postcount=4
Will that help?thanks
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Yes, that is another method.
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ninja_zx11 said:
Could you please help me to find the custom recovery image that i can put in my fast boot folder and please step by step if you don't mind please.
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Go to the General forum section for the M8, and look at the Index thread (sticky at the top of that forum) to find link to recoveries and other resources, including guides and how-tos. Read up and learn.
Taking the time to familiarize yourself with the basic concepts and processes is much more valuable than someone walking your though step-by-step. I won't walk you through step-by-step, as you will learn very little that way.
The process is not that difficult, anyway. You already used fastboot to unlock the bootloader. Other fastboot commands are not any different in execution. If you can't handle taking it from here, modding the phone probably isn't for you.
With S-on, you aren't going to brick the phone by backing up or flashing recovery. Even with s-off, as long as you only flash things intended for the M8 (and only for the GSM version - not CDMA - to be safe), you will not brick. You can only brick the phone if you damage hboot, radio, or partition tables.

redpoint73 said:
Yes, that is another method.
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Go to the General forum section for the M8, and look at the Index thread (sticky at the top of that forum) to find link to recoveries and other resources, including guides and how-tos. Read up and learn.
Taking the time to familiarize yourself with the basic concepts and processes is much more valuable than someone walking your though step-by-step. I won't walk you through step-by-step, as you will learn very little that way.
The process is not that difficult, anyway. You already used fastboot to unlock the bootloader. Other fastboot commands are not any different in execution. If you can't handle taking it from here, modding the phone probably isn't for you.
With S-on, you aren't going to brick the phone by backing up or flashing recovery. Even with s-off, as long as you only flash things intended for the M8 (and only for the GSM version - not CDMA - to be safe), you will not brick. You can only brick the phone if you damage hboot, radio, or partition tables.
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Yes you are right...I will read more and i want to learn and will try to do it myself.If i will have some confusion, i will ask here.Looks like i need more reading.
Now what i am planning to do is:
1. Install twrp
2.Take a full nandroid backup.(will it be enough to save me in future if i would like to go back to stock after S-OFF?)
3.root and s-off.
Does it make sense?

ninja_zx11 said:
Now what i am planning to do is:
1. Install twrp
2.Take a full nandroid backup.(will it be enough to save me in future if i would like to go back to stock after S-OFF?)
3.root and s-off.
Does it make sense?
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The process to backup stock recovery is easy, by either method we already discussed. If you want to be thorough, backup stock recovery.
Backing up stock recovery and stock ROM is sufficient to return (mostly) to stock. There isn't much else you can do

redpoint73 said:
The process to backup stock recovery is easy, by either method we already discussed. If you want to be thorough, backup stock recovery.
Backing up stock recovery and stock ROM is sufficient to return (mostly) to stock. There isn't much else you can do
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UPDATE:
I downloaded latest twrp and i booted into twrp .then took full backup. i also took back up using philz touch same way by just booting into philztouch.
Then i tried to root using supersu by same booting into twrp and tried to root.it created a supersu icon on the spring board and then i tried to install it from play store but it errored out and phone rebooted.After that i tried to remove the supersu icon from the phone but just couldnt. Then i thought of restoring stock backup using twrp and it restored it to stock stage.Atleast now i know that my stock backup worked.!!!
Now my question is why did supersu not root my phone?Should i try another method?please advice.thanks

ninja_zx11 said:
UPDATE:
I downloaded latest twrp and i booted into twrp .then took full backup. i also took back up using philz touch same way by just booting into philztouch.
Then i tried to root using supersu by same booting into twrp and tried to root.it created a supersu icon on the spring board and then i tried to install it from play store but it errored out and phone rebooted.After that i tried to remove the supersu icon from the phone but just couldnt. Then i thought of restoring stock backup using twrp and it restored it to stock stage.Atleast now i know that my stock backup worked.!!!
Now my question is why did supersu not root my phone?Should i try another method?please advice.thanks
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huh? Did you flash it and then tried to install it from the play store after it was already "installed" by being flashed in custom recovery? If not, what exactly are you talking about here?
I've never bothered with the play store, just boot the custom recovery and flash the latest SuperSU. That's it... :silly:

BerndM14 said:
huh? Did you flash it and then tried to install it from the play store after it was already "installed" by being flashed in custom recovery? If not, what exactly are you talking about here?
I've never bothered with the play store, just boot the custom recovery and flash the latest SuperSU. That's it... :silly:
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thanks BerndM14, i just copied supersu zip to internal storage as you said and installed it by booting into twrp from pc. and its done... thanks..

ninja_zx11 said:
UPDATE:
I downloaded latest twrp and i booted into twrp .then took full backup. i also took back up using philz touch same way by just booting into philztouch.
Then i tried to root using supersu by same booting into twrp and tried to root.it created a supersu icon on the spring board and then i tried to install it from play store but it errored out and phone rebooted.After that i tried to remove the supersu icon from the phone but just couldnt. Then i thought of restoring stock backup using twrp and it restored it to stock stage.Atleast now i know that my stock backup worked.!!!
Now my question is why did supersu not root my phone?Should i try another method?please advice.thanks
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Sounds like a brick in the making.
Make sure that you read and understand what you are about to do before you do it.
A nandroid won't always help you.
If I may make a suggestion, don't go S-Off.

I am abandoning the idea of doing S-off after the suggestion from xunholyx above and after reading this http://android-revolution-hd.blogspot.ca/2013/06/do-we-really-need-s-off.html.

ninja_zx11 said:
I am abandoning the idea of doing S-off after the suggestion from xunholyx above and after reading this http://android-revolution-hd.blogspot.ca/2013/06/do-we-really-need-s-off.html.
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I see you are learning. I will never understand why folks seek to get s-off, without even understanding what it means. You should not be attempting any mods, unless you fully understand what the purpose is (such as s-off).

redpoint73 said:
I see you are learning. I will never understand why folks seek to get s-off, without even understanding what it means. You should not be attempting any mods, unless you fully understand what the purpose is (such as s-off).
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thanks redpoint73 for giving me helping hand!! without your help i wouldn't have done it.....

FAILED (remote: 12 signature verify fail)

I tried to flash new firmware using the instructions from http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2696282 but it doesn't work. It says it's failed; I've done it numerous times to no success. How do I update my HTC__622 to version 3.xx.xx? I checked MD5 file and it says its correct. I used the file from this forum http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2696514, but it still doesn't work. I'm trying to update my firmware so I can use the latest sense roms

Since you don't really understand how to update firmware manually ...
Why don't you do the easiest way ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56544097&postcount=2736
1. Install TWRP recovery
2. Restore 2.11.708.2 nandroid backup (you can select only system and boot if you want to keep your data)
3. Flash stock recovery
4. reboot and check for OTA, let the system install OTA to 3.32.708.4
5. reinstall TWRP or any custom recovery
6. install any Sense custom ROM that you like
7.done

ckpv5 said:
Since you don't really understand how to update firmware manually ...
Why don't you do the easiest way ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56544097&postcount=2736
1. Install TWRP recovery
2. Restore 2.11.708.2 nandroid backup (you can select only system and boot if you want to keep your data)
3. Flash stock recovery
4. reboot and check for OTA, let the system install OTA to 3.32.708.4
5. reinstall TWRP or any custom recovery
6. install any Sense custom ROM that you like
7.done
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HOLY COW!!! THANKS SO SO MUCH!!! I'LL REPLY AS SOON AS I GET TO SOME SUCCESS WITH THIS! :fingers-crossed::good:

ckpv5 said:
Since you don't really understand how to update firmware manually ...
Why don't you do the easiest way ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56544097&postcount=2736
1. Install TWRP recovery
2. Restore 2.11.708.2 nandroid backup (you can select only system and boot if you want to keep your data)
3. Flash stock recovery
4. reboot and check for OTA, let the system install OTA to 3.32.708.4
5. reinstall TWRP or any custom recovery
6. install any Sense custom ROM that you like
7.done
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Just another thing, do I need to lock bootloader and then unlock later on? Do I keep my root? Or do I have to root it again?
Sorry, I got so excited :fingers-crossed: finally gonna get some lovin' from the other sense custom roms! <3
Lastly, will my root be gone when I restore this? Will my phone brick if I update it to OTA after the flashing of the zip?
Sorry again if I got too many questions! I've been dying to find a way for this

hezirance said:
Just another thing, do I need to lock bootloader and then unlock later on? Do I keep my root? Or do I have to root it again?
Sorry, I got so excited :fingers-crossed: finally gonna get some lovin' from the other sense custom roms! <3
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No need to relock bootloader ... never do that.
You will lose root but you can easily re-root.
You don't flash the zip ... you need to extract the zip on your PC and transfer the contents to your device TWRP/BACKUPS/yourserialno/thisfolder
Restoring a nandroid backup will not brick your device.
Furthermore, your intention is to flash the latest Sense custom ROM after your firmware is updated to 3.32.708.4 and those custom ROMs come pre-rooted, so no need to manually root it.

ckpv5 said:
No need to relock bootloader ... never do that.
You will lose root but you can easily re-root.
You don't flash the zip ... you need to extract the zip on your PC and transfer the contents to your device TWRP/BACKUPS/yourserialno/thisfolder
Restoring a nandroid backup will not brick your device.
Furthermore, your intention is to flash the latest Sense custom ROM after your firmware is updated to 3.32.708.4 and those custom ROMs come pre-rooted, so no need to manually root it.
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Thanks a lot! Finally someone giving me answers I couldn't find :cyclops:
Oh, and if at some point in the future that I wanna try out the lollipop roms such as Skydragon, do I need to update firmware? Is the firmware in that rom different from the ones in sense roms? In other words, will I encounter problems if I flash a GPE Lollipop rom?

You can install GPE 5.0 SkyDragon on your 3.32.708.4 firmware but not on lower version like 2.11.708.2
The only problem you may have is WiFi disconnected when screen-off but to some including me, this is not happening ... only for some people on some firmware.

hezirance said:
Just another thing, do I need to lock bootloader and then unlock later on? Do I keep my root? Or do I have to root it again?
Sorry, I got so excited :fingers-crossed: finally gonna get some lovin' from the other sense custom roms! <3
Lastly, will my root be gone when I restore this? Will my phone brick if I update it to OTA after the flashing of the zip?
Sorry again if I got too many questions! I've been dying to find a way for this
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ckpv5 said:
No need to relock bootloader ... never do that.
You will lose root but you can easily re-root.
You don't flash the zip ... you need to extract the zip on your PC and transfer the contents to your device TWRP/BACKUPS/yourserialno/thisfolder
Restoring a nandroid backup will not brick your device.
Furthermore, your intention is to flash the latest Sense custom ROM after your firmware is updated to 3.32.708.4 and those custom ROMs come pre-rooted, so no need to manually root it.
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If you are S-On you will need to re-lock your bootloader for the OTAs, If you are S-Off there is no reason to re-lock.

xunholyx said:
If you are S-On you will need to re-lock your bootloader for the OTAs, If you are S-Off there is no reason to re-lock.
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Even with s-on you do NOT have to relock the BL for ota's .....

Mr Hofs said:
Even with s-on you do NOT have to relock the BL for ota's .....
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That was what I've been told, and have also read on other sites. For example.
Personally, I never worry about OTAs. Being s-off and flashing firmware is a lot quicker than waiting on my carrier to update.
But thanks for clearing that up for me.

xunholyx said:
That was what I've been told, and have also read on other sites. For example.
Personally, I never worry about OTAs. Being s-off and flashing firmware is a lot quicker than waiting on my carrier to update.
But thanks for clearing that up for me.
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That's for manual updating via the ota zip. The thing i ment was official ota via update menu inside OS with stock recovery.

M8 rooted - flashing roms?!

Hello all! I badly need some help! Other forums have been unsuccessful. I currently have a rooted S-off M8 (Uk version) When i rooted my phone i used TWRP and did not create a stock recovery.
After delaying the OTA update due to being rooted id now like to upate my phone as im still running 4.4.4.
If it helps i have the TWRP manager app installed with the latest recovery 2.8.7.0 on. Im getting confused between RUU and flashing custom recovery. All id like to do is to update my phone to the new 5.0 lollypop. I dont mind how to do it or what i need to do just need someone to explain it in simple terms. I do apologize, i am a noob when it comes to this!
Any help would be much apperciated!

your device s-off?! if you don'y know what is it please read this topic:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/general/vomerguides-m8-bootldr-unlock-s-off-t2800727

Azathoth6 said:
your device s-off?! if you don'y know what is it please read this topic:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/general/vomerguides-m8-bootldr-unlock-s-off-t2800727
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Read his first line again ?!

salty32 said:
Hello all! I badly need some help! Other forums have been unsuccessful. I currently have a rooted S-off M8 (Uk version) When i rooted my phone i used TWRP and did not create a stock recovery.
After delaying the OTA update due to being rooted id now like to upate my phone as im still running 4.4.4.
If it helps i have the TWRP manager app installed with the latest recovery 2.8.7.0 on. Im getting confused between RUU and flashing custom recovery. All id like to do is to update my phone to the new 5.0 lollypop. I dont mind how to do it or what i need to do just need someone to explain it in simple terms. I do apologize, i am a noob when it comes to this!
Any help would be much apperciated!
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Stock recovery won't help on a rooted ROM. You need a clean ROM either a clean backup or RUU.
Post your fastboot getvar all result (minus serial & imei no.), someone may be able to help you

salty32 said:
Im getting confused between RUU and flashing custom recovery.
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The 2 are not at all related.
Custom recovery (such as TWRP) is user created, and installed to the recovery partition of the phone, and allows you to make backups of the current ROM and data partition; and to flash custom ROMs and other flashable zips.
RUU = ROM Update Utility. Its an "official" HTC executable run from the PC that will return your phone to stock image, including stock ROM, recovery, firmware, and all other partitions. There are also RUUs that can be run from the phone. But that's mostly the exception.