[Q] Which root method? - HTC Wildfire S

I had my WF S S-OFF today and now I am looking forward for rooting it. But I am a bit confused about something: I read a tut about rooting WF S 2.3.3 Gingerbread with Gingerbreak apk and I also found this rooting tut on this site : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1195275
I didn't tried before being sure to not mess up with my device. So does both methods work or which one is preferred?
Thanks a lot !

My bad, wrong post... linked to the same thread
Good luck dude!

Run gingerbreak, device will restart. You are then rooted.

so you say I don't have to install custom recovery and other stuff to root it ? Just gingerbreak will be okay?

Yes unless you want to have custom roms, then you will need to install a custom recovery which can be found in the development section.

Do I have a chance to restore back the original recovery in case of visiting service if phone gets messed up?
I am wondering if it's possible to use gingerbreak, then install nandroid get everything backed up (not sure if it backups the original recovery in the phone) then un apply gingerbreak and then install custom recovery.
So this way I can restore the backup with original rom and original recovery. Is something like that possible?
Edit :
Is it a good idea / practice to install Clockword Rom Manager as it will replace the recovery menu that I have to install for rooting the device? I am not planning to checkout roms for now, but was just wondering

Nandroid backup is in the custom recovery. You can remove everything if you just install a RUU. Also you cannot backup the original recovery as you need a custom recovery to backup your ROM.

So best practice is using tut on xda, then install Clockword Rom Manager to install nandroid also and take full backup and then play with the phone?
So did i get it correct ?

Yeah, but make sure you install the CWM from the development here or else it won't work. It's very simple to install it. As your phone is S-off you can install the recovery and then backup the original unrooted rom and keep that as a backup.

So
1-) I follow this tut : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1195275
2-) Then install this CWM : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1213229
3-) Then with using nandroid (I think it's included with CWM? I read something like that on a site) I will take backup of my whole phone (I still wonder how it will backup unrooted version of rom eventho it's rooted)
4-) Remove unnecessary branded stuff (I don't know how to do that, any app for that?)
5-) Then just mess with the phone.
So my last questions is : When I install RUU, it will get back to stock recovery, and when i install the unrooted backup it will be like a legal phone right ? (Of course i will turn S-OFF back)
Sorry for asking noob questions, It's my first time using android phone and it's been only few days since i bought it

You got it all right, except if you have never updated the phone, as there was an update which blocked gingerbreak you don't need to do most of it.
Also when you flash the RUU it will all go stock. S-off will remain as it can't be turned on. Not to my knowledge anyway.

I think I wont use gingerbreak method, I checked for updates when I bought it and it said no updates. So probably that fix is already included in the WF S :/
I didn't managed to find RUU for WF S somehow but i guess for now I don't need it.
Today the guy at service shop (for breaking S-OFF) said that there is way for user to set S-OFF back, but he said he doesn't know the exact way. I thought hard reset will fix it
Thanks a lot for your help !

No problem, also you could just run gingerbreak first just to see if it does work without following the other steps.

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[Q] Is custom recovery necessary to maintain root

Hi there!
I know i have to search through the forums to see if there is a post similar to the one i'm about to write now. So if there is a similar post like this out there, i have not seen it and i apologize.
An now to the core of my problem:
Basically the title is my question. I have just flashed a stock RUU on my phone and updated it via HTC's OTA, but i want to gain root and still maintain the ability to get OTA updates - Which, as far as i know, requires a stock recovery image. Is it possible to flash the stock recovery after gaining root-access and keep the phone rooted?
Yes, you flash a custom recovery to obtain root that's good, after this you flash back the stock recovery you still be rooted, the root is in the rom and not in the recovery !
So you are correct :thumbup:
Mr Hofs said:
Yes, you flash a custom recovery to obtain root that's good, after this you flash back the stock recovery you still be rooted, the root is in the rom and not in the recovery !
So you are correct :thumbup:
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Thanks a lot, that's awesome. By the way, now that i have updated to stock 4.1.1, is the root procedure precisely the same as it was with ICS; Can i use precisely the same superuser zip and unlock token i used when the phone was on ICS?
Yes you can ! Its exactly the same .... and to give you a tip :
After you flashed the custom recovery please do a nandroid backup from the backup & restore option in the recovery, if you want to change things to the rom after that you have a safe backup to go back to when you need to update or have any other problem. :thumbup:
Mr Hofs said:
Yes you can ! Its exactly the same .... and to give you a tip :
After you flashed the custom recovery please do a nandroid backup from the backup & restore option in the recovery, if you want to change things to the rom after that you have a safe backup to go back to when you need to update or have any other problem. :thumbup:
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I know, i certainly intend on doing just that. When i read the post on how to get the phone back to stock and i read the part about how to do it from a nandroid backup, i seriously face palmed myself! Back when i was still using my HTC Desire, i never considered the nandroid backup because the stock software was so incredibly bad that i never wanted to go back. But now i will, my experience with the stock software is far better on the One X.
Thanks a lot for your help

[Q] Root, Backup, ROM Flashing, Back to Stock

Hey all.
I'm very new to ROM flashing so I've done a lot of reading by sill have a few questions I need some clarification on.
I have the HTC One X (International Version) on Vodafone in Australia, running the stock (Vodafone) rom.
My concern is with the warranty of my phone - if I root it I loose my warranty. I understand that I can un-root my phone to get my warranty back.
I must have re-written this thread 5 or so times trying to explain what I do / don't know, so I'll keep it really simple.
[Q] What is the best way to take an entirely complete snapshop of my phone, so that if things should go pear shaped I can restore it back to it's exact current condition, including apps, sms, call logs, etc ?
[Q] Should I make a backup of my current Vodafone RUU or is making a NANDroid backup enough?
[Q] If I flash a custom recovery (CWR or TWRP) can I restore the original one to take my phone back to it's pre-warranty voided condition?
[Q] If I flash a new ROM (planning on using Cyanogen) am I able to keep all my contacts, or do I need to re-sync it with Google? Am I able to keep all my apps, or will I need to re-download them all?
I don't need super deep explanations, more just quick answers and a point in the right direction.
Note :
In bootloader, before rooting you will find *locked* written, this means warranty is applicable.
After rooting, the bootloader screen will show *unlocked* , warranty voided.
If you unroot again, the bootloader does not show *locked* but * relocked*.
this is a clear indication of unlocking, and as such the service center has a choice of whether they want to prive you warranty service or paid,
Q1 : As soon as you root or unlock and install SU. DONT flash a custom rom. Go to recovery and make a nandroid and keep it safely on PC as well as on phone.This is very useful for future.The nandroid saved everything from settings,contacts, apps logs etc. Its a complete duplicate.
Q2: You cant make an RUU, Nandroid is more than enough. Just make sure you have a copy of it in your PC, cause sometimes the sdcard ma be wiped/damaged.
Q3:You can restore the original recovery which will help you in doing a OTA update. But as i said earlier, even if you restore it to complete factory, warranty may be void depending on area and service center.
Q4: Usually, flashing a new ROM is recemmended with a FULL WIPE meaning no apps, contacts, etc
You can use an app like titanium backup or my backup pro to make a backup of your apps and contacts and then restore after flashing new ROM.
Hope this helps.
Wow, thanks so much for answering all my questions so clearly!
It's a shame about the bootloader *relocked* bit though.
So in regards to Q1, does the stock recovery provide the means to make a nandroid? Or do I need to install Titanium or a custom recovery?
Yes, you need a custom recovery to make a nandroid. You need it to get official HTC ota's.
You need a custom recovery anyway because you need it to install a custom rom/SU
And titanium backup needs root acces, when you want to back up things up before you start messing about i can also suggest the app "carbon"
Mr Hofs said:
Yes, you need a custom recovery to make a nandroid.
And titanium backup needs root acces, when you want to back up things up before you start messing about i can also suggest the app "carbon"
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Ok. So when you install Titanium, are you installing a custom recovery? Or it it just app that requires root access? Or do you need to install a custom recovery to enable root in the first place?
I realise that I will need a custom recovery eventually, like you mentioned. I just wondered if it was a necessity for do a nandroid.
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i can also suggest the app "carbon" .
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Yeah, I head that CWR Carbon doesn't require root access to make a backup. Is that correct?
Yes titanium backup is an app that requires root acces, therefore its mandatory to flash a custom recovery and push the SU.zip.
Carbon does not need root acces

Basic root-nothing else- and a few questions

Hi,
So there seem to be quite a few tools and methods out there with which you can root your phone, but what if I really only want to root it and nothing else; my only goal is to use apps that require root access.
I've got Android 4.1.1, but I suppose it shouldn't matter that much. Will I be able to update to a newer version with root access though?
Forgot to add:
What will I need to back up and how do I transfer my settings and contacts? I don't care much for lost apps since I don't have many.
Unlock the bootloader and flash a custom recovery. After that you make a nandroid backup and then install the superuser root script to give root acces in the rom.
Flash back the stock recovery and you are able to receive and install official ota's.
Is this all possible with this tool?
Now I don't want to act dumb or seem inept, but could you or someone else give me a more detailed description, maybe with a link or two?
Yes you can use that tool :thumbup:
Did you see my edit to the first post?
>>What will I need to back up and how do I transfer my settings and contacts? I don't care much for lost apps since I don't have many.
Can you tell me why I need to flash a custom recovery? Can't I 'just' root my phone as is and then leave it like that- rooted of course?
You can use an app called carbon to make a backup. You need a custom recovery to install the super user script. A stock one is not capable if doing that. And you don't root a phone. Only its software !
With hassoons tool, how do I flash the stock ROM back on it? I can see no option in his thread...
The stock nandroid backup needs to be installed via the custom recovery. Not with hassons tool kit. You can in that case only flash back the stock boot.img from the stock backup.
Hi, I decided I wanted to go through with my plans to root the phone and already run into a problem:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=43066305&posted=1#post43066305
Most recentpost...
EDIT: Selected Power down on the phone because I was getting impatient and paranoid and then disconnected the phone. Everything seems fine so far. I closed the console and the message "Get Token ID.." popped up and then the console reopened, apparently searching for the phone... -_-
Oh well, maybe next time. Right now I want to take a break/try something else.
Can someone tell me why Windows always trys to install new drivers even when they already are installed? Happened when I used the programm- updating drivers blabla...
I'll try again here...
Just a question:
Can I definitely receive official android/sense/hwatever ota updates but still keep the root access?
What i've gathered so far is that I need to use hassoons tool and how to guide,but only the first post.
After that I will have a rooted stock ROM with ClockworkMod recovery, right?
Then I should do a nandroid backup WITH CWM (how is this done exactly? hold volume down +power button, then recovery?)
What will be backed up with the nandroid backup? How big will this be roughly and can I/should I put it on PC to free up some space?
Regardless from this backup, I only need the recovery.img, which in my case will be MY personal backed up STOCK recovery.img,is that correct?
How do I flash my stock recovery?
Edit:
Once I have the stock recovery again, will my phone still have root access? Is everything from then on -stock- except for root access?

[Q] Need some help for desirehd

ive rooted my desirehd some years ago using ace hack kit and that kept me busy and satisfied until now. i really need to upgrade to the newer version of android that my device can run smooth but without loosing my root can anyone advise ?? keep in mind that until now i never tried to flash anything to my device am completely noob but i fell in love with the possibilities root gave me on software and i dont want to loose it.
Flashing ROM...
freakshowonboard said:
ive rooted my desirehd some years ago using ace hack kit and that kept me busy and satisfied until now. i really need to upgrade to the newer version of android that my device can run smooth but without loosing my root can anyone advise ?? keep in mind that until now i never tried to flash anything to my device am completely noob but i fell in love with the possibilities root gave me on software and i dont want to loose it.
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No worries, Since you're worried regarding your root access. All Roms that you see here are custom ROMs and comes with Prerooted so don't afraid of flashing it.
Just to be safe side, Install latest recovery either CWM or 4ext and backup your Stock or any custom ROM you're on.
Flash Any ROM made for Desire HD. But be aware that if you're S-ON then flash Boot.IMG before or after complete flashing your ROM via HBoot in order to get proper connectivity and your ROM to work properly. If you're S-Off already then no need to flash boot.img since system will take care of it.
Even then you're worried regarding how to flash then type in YouTube for How to flash custom Ron for Desire HD. So that you'll get exact idea about it.
Very important: Make sure your radio and hboot is latest. Or you should running last official update from HTC which is gingerbread 2.3.5 Otherwise you need to upgrade that first prior to flash any custom ROM from any source.
Get on 4.4.3 its latest yet stable.
thank you dr.patron99 am following your instructions and reporting a brief of what ive done so i can get your guidance on how to continue
step 1: made full backup of my phone
step 2: Ive updated my rom manager to v5.5.3.7 and flashed latest recovery available which is clockworkmod 5.0.2.0
step 3: ive run full rom backup once more just to be on safe side (through rom manager) and checked if backup has been created then i transferred backup to my pc and to a thumb drive.
step 4: ive checked to see my S-condition and am on S-OFF so i guess i wont need to flash Boot.IMG right?
step 5: am not sure how to check which one is it or even upgrade radio and hboot to its latest, does country/network operator plays a role here? if yes i live in CY (cyprus) which is a European country and am under 2 network operators CYTA and MTN.

[Q] How to proceed to S-Off,boot loader unlock,sim unlock from stock?

Hello friends, I just got a new refurbished rogers(canada) HTC M8 GSM phone.Its totally stock at this moment and would like to do sim unlock,s-off and boot loader unlock. But before i would like to get full back up of my stock.Few questions:
1.How can i do full complete backup of my stock phone in case in future i need to revert back?
2. what are the steps to do s-off,sim unlock and bootloader unlock?
Right now phone says:
Android version 4.4.3
HTC sence version 6.0
software number 2.23.631.2
HTC SDK API level 6.25
kernel version
3.4.0--g523xxxxxx
baseband version
1.19.2133xxxxxxxx
build number
2.23.631.xxxxxxxrelease-keys
Thanks in advance...
Go to HTCDev.com to unlock the bootloader. The process is self-explanatory (just follow the website instructions). There is a writeup on the following guide, if you need help. But honestly, if you can follow instruction, the process is self-explanatory as I mentioned: http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/general/vomerguides-m8-bootldr-unlock-s-off-t2800727
Then, to backup the stock ROM and recovery, follow the instructions listed on the following thread under "How do i backup the stock HTC recovery?" : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2701376
This process will boot custom recovery without actually flashing recovery it to the phone, allowing you to backup stock recovery as well as the stock ROM (if you flash custom recovery before doing this, stock recovery is over-written and therefore can't be backed up). Note that your version's stock ROM and recovery may already be uploaded to the above thread by another XDA user.
Then achieve root by your preferred method (flash custom recovery and flash SU/SuperSU, or use weaksauce, towelroot, etc.). Then use sunshine to achieve s-off (firewater s-off will likely not work, as it was patched some time ago): http://theroot.ninja/
Then after s-off, you can unlock SIM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2708572
Thanks a lot redpont73 for your directions!!!Will follow your steps and let you know how things went..Thanks
Ok i unlocked my bootloader with htcdev.com and it says unlocked now.
Now how to backup my stock at this point? I tried this thread you showed me: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2701376 but didn't understand fully. but it says :fastboot boot recovery_filename.img (this does not work on the latest 3.xx firmwares !!! we need to get the stock recoveries from the OTA files)"
I am little confused at this point.How can i back up at this point without installing any recovery software like twrp?please guide me.thanks
ninja_zx11 said:
Now how to backup my stock at this point? I tried this thread you showed me: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2701376 but didn't understand fully. but it says :fastboot boot recovery_filename.img (this does not work on the latest 3.xx firmwares !!! we need to get the stock recoveries from the OTA files)"
I am little confused at this point.How can i back up at this point without installing any recovery software like twrp?
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By placing the custom recovery image in your fastboot folder, you can then boot recovery without actually flashing it to the phone, using the command you quoted. Think of it as remotely running the TWRP software that is still located on your PC (at least I think that is how it works).
Once you are booted into TWRP, you can backup system (stock ROM) and recovery(stock recovery).
redpoint73 said:
By placing the custom recovery image in your fastboot folder, you can then boot recovery without actually flashing it to the phone, using the command you quoted. Think of it as remotely running the TWRP software that is still located on your PC (at least I think that is how it works).
Once you are booted into TWRP, you can backup system (stock ROM) and recovery(stock recovery).
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Could you please help me to find the custom recovery image that i can put in my fast boot folder and please step by step if you don't mind please.Just trying to learn and don't want to brick my phone with any wrong move.thanks
i found this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=53770286&postcount=4
Will that help?thanks
ninja_zx11 said:
i found this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=53770286&postcount=4
Will that help?thanks
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Yes, that is another method.
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ninja_zx11 said:
Could you please help me to find the custom recovery image that i can put in my fast boot folder and please step by step if you don't mind please.
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Go to the General forum section for the M8, and look at the Index thread (sticky at the top of that forum) to find link to recoveries and other resources, including guides and how-tos. Read up and learn.
Taking the time to familiarize yourself with the basic concepts and processes is much more valuable than someone walking your though step-by-step. I won't walk you through step-by-step, as you will learn very little that way.
The process is not that difficult, anyway. You already used fastboot to unlock the bootloader. Other fastboot commands are not any different in execution. If you can't handle taking it from here, modding the phone probably isn't for you.
With S-on, you aren't going to brick the phone by backing up or flashing recovery. Even with s-off, as long as you only flash things intended for the M8 (and only for the GSM version - not CDMA - to be safe), you will not brick. You can only brick the phone if you damage hboot, radio, or partition tables.
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Yes, that is another method.
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Go to the General forum section for the M8, and look at the Index thread (sticky at the top of that forum) to find link to recoveries and other resources, including guides and how-tos. Read up and learn.
Taking the time to familiarize yourself with the basic concepts and processes is much more valuable than someone walking your though step-by-step. I won't walk you through step-by-step, as you will learn very little that way.
The process is not that difficult, anyway. You already used fastboot to unlock the bootloader. Other fastboot commands are not any different in execution. If you can't handle taking it from here, modding the phone probably isn't for you.
With S-on, you aren't going to brick the phone by backing up or flashing recovery. Even with s-off, as long as you only flash things intended for the M8 (and only for the GSM version - not CDMA - to be safe), you will not brick. You can only brick the phone if you damage hboot, radio, or partition tables.
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Yes you are right...I will read more and i want to learn and will try to do it myself.If i will have some confusion, i will ask here.Looks like i need more reading.
Now what i am planning to do is:
1. Install twrp
2.Take a full nandroid backup.(will it be enough to save me in future if i would like to go back to stock after S-OFF?)
3.root and s-off.
Does it make sense?
ninja_zx11 said:
Now what i am planning to do is:
1. Install twrp
2.Take a full nandroid backup.(will it be enough to save me in future if i would like to go back to stock after S-OFF?)
3.root and s-off.
Does it make sense?
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The process to backup stock recovery is easy, by either method we already discussed. If you want to be thorough, backup stock recovery.
Backing up stock recovery and stock ROM is sufficient to return (mostly) to stock. There isn't much else you can do
redpoint73 said:
The process to backup stock recovery is easy, by either method we already discussed. If you want to be thorough, backup stock recovery.
Backing up stock recovery and stock ROM is sufficient to return (mostly) to stock. There isn't much else you can do
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UPDATE:
I downloaded latest twrp and i booted into twrp .then took full backup. i also took back up using philz touch same way by just booting into philztouch.
Then i tried to root using supersu by same booting into twrp and tried to root.it created a supersu icon on the spring board and then i tried to install it from play store but it errored out and phone rebooted.After that i tried to remove the supersu icon from the phone but just couldnt. Then i thought of restoring stock backup using twrp and it restored it to stock stage.Atleast now i know that my stock backup worked.!!!
Now my question is why did supersu not root my phone?Should i try another method?please advice.thanks
ninja_zx11 said:
UPDATE:
I downloaded latest twrp and i booted into twrp .then took full backup. i also took back up using philz touch same way by just booting into philztouch.
Then i tried to root using supersu by same booting into twrp and tried to root.it created a supersu icon on the spring board and then i tried to install it from play store but it errored out and phone rebooted.After that i tried to remove the supersu icon from the phone but just couldnt. Then i thought of restoring stock backup using twrp and it restored it to stock stage.Atleast now i know that my stock backup worked.!!!
Now my question is why did supersu not root my phone?Should i try another method?please advice.thanks
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huh? Did you flash it and then tried to install it from the play store after it was already "installed" by being flashed in custom recovery? If not, what exactly are you talking about here?
I've never bothered with the play store, just boot the custom recovery and flash the latest SuperSU. That's it... :silly:
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huh? Did you flash it and then tried to install it from the play store after it was already "installed" by being flashed in custom recovery? If not, what exactly are you talking about here?
I've never bothered with the play store, just boot the custom recovery and flash the latest SuperSU. That's it... :silly:
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thanks BerndM14, i just copied supersu zip to internal storage as you said and installed it by booting into twrp from pc. and its done... thanks..
ninja_zx11 said:
UPDATE:
I downloaded latest twrp and i booted into twrp .then took full backup. i also took back up using philz touch same way by just booting into philztouch.
Then i tried to root using supersu by same booting into twrp and tried to root.it created a supersu icon on the spring board and then i tried to install it from play store but it errored out and phone rebooted.After that i tried to remove the supersu icon from the phone but just couldnt. Then i thought of restoring stock backup using twrp and it restored it to stock stage.Atleast now i know that my stock backup worked.!!!
Now my question is why did supersu not root my phone?Should i try another method?please advice.thanks
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Sounds like a brick in the making.
Make sure that you read and understand what you are about to do before you do it.
A nandroid won't always help you.
If I may make a suggestion, don't go S-Off.
I am abandoning the idea of doing S-off after the suggestion from xunholyx above and after reading this http://android-revolution-hd.blogspot.ca/2013/06/do-we-really-need-s-off.html.
ninja_zx11 said:
I am abandoning the idea of doing S-off after the suggestion from xunholyx above and after reading this http://android-revolution-hd.blogspot.ca/2013/06/do-we-really-need-s-off.html.
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I see you are learning. I will never understand why folks seek to get s-off, without even understanding what it means. You should not be attempting any mods, unless you fully understand what the purpose is (such as s-off).
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I see you are learning. I will never understand why folks seek to get s-off, without even understanding what it means. You should not be attempting any mods, unless you fully understand what the purpose is (such as s-off).
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thanks redpoint73 for giving me helping hand!! without your help i wouldn't have done it.....

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