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Hello everybody,
actually Im a big fan of HTC-Devices and Sense. Everything startet with a HTC Blackstone and Windows-Mobile. Currently Im using a HTC Legend and Desire (private & work).
Meanwhile Im bored of the Design of HTC. To thick to "normal".
So now the Xperia Arc comes in. Wundervoll design, thin and compare to the measures small. Disadvantage for me is the USB-Port on the side for the dockingstation (New trend?) and the missing front camera.
But mybe there are other advantages than the design that I missed.
Actually what I want to ask is, why did you buy the ARC?
grossermanitu said:
Actually what I want to ask is, why did you buy the ARC?
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I have also used many models of HTCphone, I have changed to SE Arc for 3 months.
With Arc I'm happy because it has a lot of things better than HTC phones such as Arc has good radio, clear sound, its screen looks like Bravia TV. With Arc's camera I can have a lot of very beautiful pictures on days or night especially with added software Arc can take nice panorama picture and more...
I'm a SE-fanboy, liking the Arc and my X10 started to reboot often so I got it.
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I like Sony Mobile Bravia Engine, the Reality Display and the arc shape.
reasons why i bought the Arc:
- I'm a big SE fan, had a X10 but was missing 'some things'(vague, i know)
- Big 4.2" screen (with the bravia engine it looks great)
- Really good camera quality in day & night(and it takes a picture fast)
- The design: just look at the thing man! (let's be honnest all phone in the xperia range look very good)
Most SE designs look like they are made to my taste. Or you can also say others make phones that look ugly to my taste .
But I wish SE can improve the build quality of their phones to feel more solid and use more metal. I find HTC phones to have much better build quality than SE phones but somehow their phone designs don't interest me.
Samsung is a joke. They just copy everyone. To me, their best looking phone is Captivate and it looks somewhat like X10.
I have a desire. It's nice but not as nice as the arc. The pictures, audio quality and radio on the desire is appalling.
After playing with an arc in a store the camera is excellent, the audio quality is superb the radio works and the screen is beautifull.....but why SE why have such crap build quality?
I am looking forward to the RAY and that may be my next phone.
Xperia ray is beautiful but smaller. For me... Arc is suitable. Smaller than Dell streak and bigger than ray.
Gunawan - GN Multimedia - Xperia Arc
Killingly cool design
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1. design 2. camera 3. interface design. After using an atrix i decided a dualcore wasn't worth it for what i needed to do and would rather trade it for the "curvaceous" arc. Brother has a SGS2 and it is awesome, but the stock samsung ROM really leaves a lot to be desired design wise. Have a look at their stock dialer. blegh.
edit: oh yea, cant forget about the screen. Perfect size and looks great.
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1. design 2. camera 3. interface design. After using an atrix i decided a dualcore wasn't worth it for what i needed to do and would rather trade it for the "curvaceous" arc. Brother has a SGS2 and it is awesome, but the stock samsung ROM really leaves a lot to be desired design wise. Have a look at their stock dialer. blegh.
edit: oh yea, cant forget about the screen. Perfect size and looks great.
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Exactly my first thoughts. Dont know what happened to HTC. But hey a good chance to see sth. different.
Ps:I just bought my Arc on Amazon Warehousedeals 304,-€
i saw it and wanted it
looks good
good camera
and i dont need a front camera
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Xperia ray is beautiful but smaller. For me... Arc is suitable. Smaller than Dell streak and bigger than ray.
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I actually enjoyed the fact that Ray is small, but still packs almost the same features of Arc, sometimes i fell the x10 is already too big and Arc is even bigger. But i'll wait a little longer until buying a new device, my old x10 still serves me well and there's a lot of cool stuff being released, i'm not even sure if my next phone will be a SE but i do like their designs a lot.
a friend took me to sony store
hold the arc, dummy set even (high quality ofcos) and fall in love, feels great in my hand, desire hd looks outdated
ditch my HTC desire HD for arc design, camera, better speaker, love the home button for turning on the screen rather then power button way up the top, and it feels great in my pocket, but usually protected in my waist pouch 95% of the time
if you wan speed and nothing else, sgs2 with dual core and 1gb of ram will be your choice
My main reason for buying it was for 100% live view compatibility...
how disappointed was I!!
For me, it's the design. Big screen with BE and of course, the caméra.
I always liked the design of SE phones and will like for their future designes.
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the price mainly
The brand
The camera
The screen size
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- Nice design, really sexy
- good camera for both picture and video
- stable performance.
- good brand
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Brand
Camera
UI
Screen
Design
Weight
* Looks
* Camera
* Screen
* Thinness (makes the phone pocketable despite the large screen)
* Rootable, Unlockable bootloader
The brand was actually a huge negative for me - i loathe and distrust sony. I only bought after i managed to convince myself that SE are an entirely separate company.
After handling both the Z and the ZL for a few hours, the ZL is what I chose. I dont understand why it is a priority for everyone all of a sudden to have a water resistant phone. That, the much more durable and grippy curved plastic back, and the insane screen to body ratio were what made me buy the ZL.
If you guys would like to know anything in particular, please feel free to ask.
Pro Tip: For the folks in India, try asking the shopkeeper to exclude the headphones. They end up giving you a nice little discount. That is assuming you already have a good set of IEMs or cans.
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After handling both the Z and the ZL for a few hours, the ZL is what I chose. I dont understand why it is a priority for everyone all of a sudden to have a water resistant phone. That, the much more durable and grippy curved plastic back, and the insane screen to body ratio were what made me buy the ZL.
If you guys would like to know anything in particular, please feel free to ask.
Pro Tip: For the folks in India, try asking the shopkeeper to exclude the headphones. They end up giving you a nice little discount. That is assuming you already have a good set of IEMs or cans.
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I had no choise to go with the ZL the Z I would get edge/2G here in the USA haha. But The ZL seems to sound better than the ZL, I came from the Note 2 and Loving it!
Are those headphones worth that much for them to give such a discount? WoW I looked them up they sell for a good 30-50 USD. Thats interesting for headphones that come with a phone.
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After handling both the Z and the ZL for a few hours, the ZL is what I chose. I dont understand why it is a priority for everyone all of a sudden to have a water resistant phone. That, the much more durable and grippy curved plastic back, and the insane screen to body ratio were what made me buy the ZL.
If you guys would like to know anything in particular, please feel free to ask.
Pro Tip: For the folks in India, try asking the shopkeeper to exclude the headphones. They end up giving you a nice little discount. That is assuming you already have a good set of IEMs or cans.
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well, for me, obviously i would like to have the Z, but since there's no any information abou the releasing date, i placed the order of ZL..i am going to wait for the Z to come out and get the both/_\
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well, for me, obviously i would like to have the Z, but since there's no any information abou the releasing date, i placed the order of ZL..i am going to wait for the Z to come out and get the both/_\
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The Z has been out longer than the ZL, The Z is on Handtec, Negri, eBay, Amazon.
The Z has been out for a few weeks...
I initially thought I would like the clean lines of the Z, but at that size, such hard lines make it uncomfortable to hold. Now, if only they would make it in a 4.5-4.7 inch form factor, with the screen ratio of the ZL, it would be a perfect phone. Not to mention all the issues plaguing the Z, made the ZL a perfect choice for me :good:
anirudh412 said:
After handling both the Z and the ZL for a few hours, the ZL is what I chose. I dont understand why it is a priority for everyone all of a sudden to have a water resistant phone. That, the much more durable and grippy curved plastic back, and the insane screen to body ratio were what made me buy the ZL.
If you guys would like to know anything in particular, please feel free to ask.
Pro Tip: For the folks in India, try asking the shopkeeper to exclude the headphones. They end up giving you a nice little discount. That is assuming you already have a good set of IEMs or cans.
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Where did u see Zl demo unit? its not there in Rajouri Garden
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Where did u see Zl demo unit? its not there in Rajouri Garden
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Sony Center in South Extension Part 1. They have both the Z and the ZL on display. I am betting it should be there in Select Citiwalk too.
On a side note, can someone point me to a guide as to how to remove the nav bar?
anirudh412 said:
Sony Center in South Extension Part 1. They have both the Z and the ZL on display. I am betting it should be there in Select Citiwalk too.
On a side note, can someone point me to a guide as to how to remove the nav bar?
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Why would you want to remove it? It would make the phone useless,
Loving my new Xperia ZL
anirudh412 said:
After handling both the Z and the ZL for a few hours, the ZL is what I chose. I dont understand why it is a priority for everyone all of a sudden to have a water resistant phone. That, the much more durable and grippy curved plastic back, and the insane screen to body ratio were what made me buy the ZL.
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I too chose the Xperia ZL over XZ. I agree with what u have said, and would also add that the sound on ZL is louder than Z. And i tested the screens and found that ZL has better screen (calibration perhaps?) viewing angles and colour vibrance than XZ (today i went back and confirmed it by checking 3 different XZ screens from 2 different sony stores). Also, physical camera key is a plus & the notification LED at bottom of ZL is an eye candy .
Lol, i was so moved by the ZL (the moment i saw it live in my hands) that i sold my note2 at once & bought the Zl (for a price difference of 6000INR). I also managed to get the Sony headphones (MDR-ZX100A worth 1490 INR) & the ZL tpu case (worth 1490 INR) free :good:.
@hyelton.. i too am coming from note2 & loving the ZL. The screen is gorgeous! Text appears crisp, no matter how small it is while browsing!
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Why would you want to remove it? It would make the phone useless,
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Check out LMT Launcher! Thats the first thing I install on any rooted android phone
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Check out LMT Launcher! Thats the first thing I install on any rooted android phone
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Oh okay I seen that on the Note 2, I couldnt get used to it. I still miss android 2.2 so I`m old fashioned I guess haha
Hi, can you please test USB host?
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Alright got it working!
Add "qemu.hw.mainkeys = 1" (without the quotes) at the end of the build.prop in /system and reboot. The nav bar disappears. Now the ENTIRE screen is usable! Awesome!!
EDIT: Make sure to install and setup LMT launcher before you do this. Also, make sure startup is set to AUTO in LMT
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I too chose the Xperia ZL over XZ. I agree with what u have said, and would also add that the sound on ZL is louder than Z. And i tested the screens and found that ZL has better screen (calibration perhaps?) viewing angles and colour vibrance than XZ (today i went back and confirmed it by checking 3 different XZ screens from 2 different sony stores). Also, physical camera key is a plus & the notification LED at bottom of ZL is an eye candy .
Lol, i was so moved by the ZL (the moment i saw it live in my hands) that i sold my note2 at once & bought the Zl (for a price difference of 6000INR). I also managed to get the Sony headphones (MDR-ZX100A worth 1490 INR) & the ZL tpu case (worth 1490 INR) free :good:.
@hyelton.. i too am coming from note2 & loving the ZL. The screen is gorgeous! Text appears crisp, no matter how small it is while browsing!
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Hey guys I have a Note 2 and I have been debating on selling it and getting the ZL ever since i saw it thats the phone i was waiting for to make the bezel as small as possible in a good screen size and zl did it. Im kind of getting tired of carrying a big Note 2 arround "dont get me wrong N2 is a beast". Couple of questing i love the speaker on N2 how does that compare on ZL and also how small is the ZL really is it smaller than the S3?
Ill prob check out the ZL when it hits AT&T, im between that and the s4. im kind of bored of samsung phones. I like a removable battery but its not a deal killer so we will see...
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Hey guys I have a Note 2 and I have been debating on selling it and getting the ZL ever since i saw it thats the phone i was waiting for to make the bezel as small as possible in a good screen size and zl did it. Im kind of getting tired of carrying a big Note 2 arround "dont get me wrong N2 is a beast". Couple of questing i love the speaker on N2 how does that compare on ZL and also how small is the ZL really is it smaller than the S3?
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Hello there! I was in the similar situation as yours. I loved my note2 and it probably has the best battery backup among current android lineup. But i couldn't resist the ZL. Note2's internal speaker are definitely louder than ZL (by about 30% i would guess) and so is the default volume via earphones. But i find the sound quality much better on ZL (esp with clear audio mode) and default loudspeaker volume is higher on ZL.
About the size, it is significantly smaller than note2 & like the OP says, ZL has got stunning screen to bezel ratio (i think the best amongst all smartphones i've yet seen). GS3 is 5mm taller, 1.3mm wider and 1.2mm thinner as compared to the Xperia ZL. Smaller ZL yet packs 5" screen!
Has anyone tried the black and white one to see which one felt better?, I'm not so sure if I should get the black one, might not be used to the texture.
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Ill prob check out the ZL when it hits AT&T, im between that and the s4. im kind of bored of samsung phones. I like a removable battery but its not a deal killer so we will see...
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AT&T Most likely wont get the phone......
I also sold my note 2 for the Z but it just didn't feel comfortable to hold so i decided to give ZL a try and i am glad that i did. Love the ZL, the plastic back doesn't feel cheap at all.:thumbup:
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AT&T Most likely wont get the phone......
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It just passed FCC for att pretty sure ...
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Okay, so I'm debating on whether or not getting the G3. I need as many opinions as possible whether or not to get it. Please list your pros/cons along with your comment. Right now, I'm stuck with either the M8 or the G3.
My previous devices were:
Samsung: S2, S3, S4
HTC: Inspire, Wildfire S, EVO 3D
Sony: Xperia Z1 C6903
LG: Nexus 4 (current)
I really liked my Samsung's just cause of the AMOLED screen. I stripped TouchWiz most of the time and stuck with AOSP. I liked my HTC's cause Sense was actually pretty cool besides the heavy UI. I liked my Z1 cause it was waterproof. I love my Nexus, because, 1) Life's Gangster 2) straight Google 3) decent specs even today.
Cons: TouchWiz, is full of useless gimmicks. Sense, then, heavy UI. haven't used any other version since 4.1. Sony, odd but useful UI.
My girfriends brother just got the M8 and he said he loves it. Is only other (smart)phone was an S4. I'm not sure whether to get the G3 or the M8 though. He said that he used the G2 and he said it was **** without explanation. I was gonna get the M7 but since HTC took the SD card slot away, I'd have no use for my 64GB.
I love that the G3 comes with 3GB ram for the 32gb with expandable to 128GB. I kinda like the rear power/volume buttons. I love the lockscreen (using it on my N4). I love OIS and the Infrared depth sensor. The only things steering me away from it is the 5.5" screen and it not being waterproof. I'm not too worried about the waterproofing because hello, taking a shower with my Z1 wasn't anything exhilarating. I think 4.7" is a sweet spot for screens but I definitely got used to my S4's 5" other than having to reposition my hand to drop the notification shade down.
Please help me decide on what I should do. Sorry if this isn't in the right thread, I figured I'd put it here cause 1) I'm asking a question (2 about the G3.
Thank you.
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Only you can decide.
No one can give you an absolute "yes" or "no".
You have already found two negatives FOR YOU in G3 - 1)screen is too big 2) not waterproof.
If you are in the US, you can buy it from your carrier, use it for 13 days and then decide whether you like it or not.
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Only you can decide.
No one can give you an absolute "yes" or "no".
You have already found two negatives FOR YOU in G3 - 1)screen is too big 2) not waterproof.
If you are in the US, you can buy it from your carrier, use it for 13 days and then decide whether you like it or not.
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Yeah but opinions can help a lot. I mean the screen "seems" to be too big. It'll be different when I actually get the hold the device and see how it feels. For the waterproof thing, hopefully there will be a case that at least protects it from light rain or something. My N4 isn't waterproof and I'm okay with that. It was just a nice luxury when I had it noting I really need. There's always those companies out there that do it to an extent. Do you have the G3?
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Yeah but opinions can help a lot. I mean the screen "seems" to be too big. It'll be different when I actually get the hold the device and see how it feels. For the waterproof thing, hopefully there will be a case that at least protects it from light rain or something. My N4 isn't waterproof and I'm okay with that. It was just a nice luxury when I had it noting I really need. There's always those companies out there that do it to an extent. Do you have the G3?
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Not yet, I'll get it right after T-Mo tells me they have for sale.
To me it will be my dream phone. To ME.
Everybody's needs are different.
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Yeah but opinions can help a lot. I mean the screen "seems" to be too big. It'll be different when I actually get the hold the device and see how it feels. For the waterproof thing, hopefully there will be a case that at least protects it from light rain or something. My N4 isn't waterproof and I'm okay with that. It was just a nice luxury when I had it noting I really need. There's always those companies out there that do it to an extent. Do you have the G3?
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Lol. I'm using the Xperia Z Ultra! 6.4" of finger and Palm splitting. All other phones feel so small to me but I'm trying to find the sweet spot so I can go back down under 6". I'm getting the G3. Love LG designs and I miss owning the OGP. I think this phone will be the one for me until the Note 4 comes out, but if the Note 4 is knoxed up with locked bootloader on t-mobile then I'm sticking with the G3. Might even be my phone for more than 6 months!!!
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@Maine_Coon same here. I was checking out my gfs brothers M8 and my thoughts are: Pros: its surprisingly thin, surprisingly lightweight, Sense seems a lot faster, boomsound is greatly improved and bassy, the pictures look amazing, the top where the IR blaster looks slick. Cons: I have to slide the phone down a bit in my Palm to reach the power button (I'm used to side power buttons). I don't like how they moved it to the right of the top of the phone. You have to strain your finger to press it. I don't like the placement of the headphone jack. Its not directly in the center of the bottom of the phone, it looks cut off. I don't like the recents panel.
So yeah, I'd rather take an OIS camera with an infrared laser rather than dual cameras. I have never witnessed an OIS camera before and I think it would be sweet. I think I'm steering towards the G3 more than anything. Let me know what you think of it if you get it before I do.
@Jammol 6.4" is massive! Honestly, my Z1 was too big for me and it even had a 5" screen. I loved my S4 once I stripped TouchWiz off of it, unlocked the Sim and bootloader. I only got rid of it because Samsung released that Knox ****. I mean I still rooted and flashed ROM's with it removed though. I just think Samsung is steering more toward unless gimmicks that they think people would use. Don't get me wrong, air view was pretty tight, but that's about it.
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@Maine_Coon . Let me know what you think of it if you get it before I do.
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Sure will.
The only thing that bothers me is that some report "dim", or not enough brightness.
I almost always keep the brightness at 100%.
Have such a screen dull would be a shame.
Battery life is non-issue for me, I always have the spare. Unless it is not possible, as with G2 and Z Ultra
Everything else suits me perfectly.
Already sold my i6000 and G2, Z Ultra will follow if I will be happy with G3.
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Sure will.
The only thing that bothers me is that some report "dim", or not enough brightness.
I almost always keep the brightness at 100%.
Have such a screen dull would be a shame.
Battery life is non-issue for me, I always have the spare. Unless it is not possible, as with G2 and Z Ultra
Everything else suits me perfectly.
Already sold my i6000 and G2, Z Ultra will follow if I will be happy with G3.
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Are you talking about the G3's screen being too dim? If so, having a 1440p QHD screen you would think they'd have to limit something with it to conserve battery a little better. As what @Jammol said, if the G3 is actually worth it, I'll probably keep it until way past it's lifespan. The most I'd probably do to it is slap AOSP on it like I did with my S4 depending on how the UI is.
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TheKnux said:
Are you talking about the G3's screen being too dim? If so, having a 1440p QHD screen you would think they'd have to limit something with it to conserve battery a little better. As what @Jammol said, if the G3 is actually worth it, I'll probably keep it until way past it's lifespan. The most I'd probably do to it is slap AOSP on it like I did with my S4 depending on how the UI is.
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yes.
doesn't make sense to me to have a phone with dim screen.
my i6000 6.5" 1080p screen was brilliant.
as of AOSP, we need an unlocked bootloader and not just root.
hopefully this will be resolved.
Maine_Coon said:
yes.
doesn't make sense to me to have a phone with dim screen.
my i6000 6.5" 1080p screen was brilliant.
as of AOSP, we need an unlocked bootloader and not just root.
hopefully this will be resolved.
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With T-Mobile's Uncarrier 5/6, I doubt locked bootloader will stay for long. T-Mo is really trying to win more customers and I think if they allow unlocking of bootloaders, that would win a lot of people in my opinion. Hell look at Verizon, they may have the most advanced and fastest LTE, but I'd rather have a fully customizable phone than fast Internet, especially when I have Wi-Fi at home. But again, that might all change with Android 5.0
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Think about the OnePlus One if you're ready for a 5.5" phone. Comes with CM from the factory, the most open and dev-friendly device atm. Only prob is availability and few reports of yellow tinted screen (sounds like the N4 a while back haha) and can't try before you buy. G3 is beautiful but hobbled by GPU thermals and too many pixels, prob locked bootloader, needs Windows to get it ready for custom roms.
Or if you need a G3 wait a month or two and it will have Snapdragon 805 to solve all the major issues.
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Think about the OnePlus One if you're ready for a 5.5" phone. Comes with CM from the factory, the most open and dev-friendly device atm. Only prob is availability and few reports of yellow tinted screen (sounds like the N4 a while back haha) and can't try before you buy. G3 is beautiful but hobbled by GPU thermals and too many pixels, prob locked bootloader, needs Windows to get it ready for custom roms.
Or if you need a G3 wait a month or two and it will have Snapdragon 805 to solve all the major issues.
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Yeah the OnePlus One looks like an amazing device but I kinda like UI options. Hell, even when I had my S4 before I put AOSP on it, there were so many themed versions of TouchWiz. I never really witnessed a LG UI before and I'm interested to find out what it's like. I would definitely get it, but the whole "invites" thing is a huge dilemma. I'm waiting for Xaiomi to hit the US. Cheap, but beefy phones.
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the oneplus is already outdated..every new phone will have a 2k or 4k with a qhd display while the oneplus only have a 1080p and 810 is around the corner
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the oneplus is already outdated..every new phone will have a 2k or 4k with a qhd display while the oneplus only have a 1080p and 810 is around the corner
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What do you consider outdated though? So should I get the G3 when T-Mo get it then? I read reviews about it on AndroidAuthority and AndroidCentral and they both said that even though it has a 5.5" screen, it handles like 5". They said the camera is good, infrared laser is fast, etc etc.
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What do you consider outdated though? So should I get the G3 when T-Mo get it then? I read reviews about it on AndroidAuthority and AndroidCentral and they both said that even though it has a 5.5" screen, it handles like 5". They said the camera is good, infrared laser is fast, etc etc.
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i was one of the winners from the race contests and i ended up giving my invite to somebody else because of the reasons below:
-only snapdragon 801
- the display is outdated..2k and/or 4k with qhd is the future
-no microsd slot
-no water resistant
-no removable battery
-no ir blaster
-too tall, with big bezels..taller than the g3
-oneplus devices tend to have a yellow tint on the screen
-CM takes too long to update their work
-by the time u get it there will be better phones already
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the oneplus is already outdated..every new phone will have a 2k or 4k with a qhd display while the oneplus only have a 1080p and 810 is around the corner
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That doesn't make any sense. 2k/4k resolution is only needed on a much larger screen, while the 810 is slated for sometime in 2015. If you're willing to wait a year then this whole discussion is moot.
@CrashTestDroid you really think they'll come out with a G3 with an 805? I just want something beefy enough to play Modern Combat 5 when it comes out.
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That doesn't make any sense. 2k/4k resolution is only needed on a much larger screen, while the 810 is slated for sometime in 2015. If you're willing to wait a year then this whole discussion is moot.
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same thing was said when 1080 came out...ppl were saying it was pointless etc..and now it is standard and 810 which will be 64bit is expected to be available in devices by the beginning of 2015
hello00 said:
i was one of the winners from the race contests and i ended up giving my invite to somebody else because of the reasons below:
-only snapdragon 801
- the display is outdated..2k and/or 4k with qhd is the future
-no microsd slot
-no water resistant
-no removable battery
-no ir blaster
-too tall, with big bezels..taller than the g3
-oneplus devices tend to have a yellow tint on the screen
-CM takes too long to update their work
-by the time u get it there will be better phones already
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Cm takes to long to update? U realize Cm has nightlies because there's usually updates being pushed to the servers everyday???
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The only downside (if you dont like big phones) is the phone size itself. I find it hard to operate with one hand. Since its a phablet you'll probably use two hands most of the time.
I currently own an LG G3 Beta version and I can say that it is excellent. Battery life, screen, features are more than enough. I wish it was around the 5" spot but then again the beautiful QHD display makes up for it.
Hello,
Im considering buying the new Sony phone. Any thoughts on it? Is it worth buying over other premium/flagship phones?
I plan on buying it as ive found the best phones for my self to have are Nexus, LG or sony
I find that its a worthy upgrade to my Z2 and has that typical sony quality, although i had some problems with my Z2 its still an awesome device and i'd be happy to take a Z5 Premium over a LG V10 (my alternative choice)
Benefits over most phones:
4K Screen
Typically decent battery life
Decent camera (i dont care about megapixels)
Nice design and shape
(not sure about fingerprint sensor)
I REALLY like the demo units ive used
I have the V10 and Z5p. Since this is my first Sony phone I am completely loving the Z5p. I got the Black version. The Nexus 6p was never a choice after seeing the disturbing bend video on YouTube. I'm running the Z5p naked but the cases and glass screen protectors are coming in next week.
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psygnosi said:
I have the V10 and Z5p. Since this is my first Sony phone I am completely loving the Z5p. I got the Black version. The Nexus 6p was never a choice after seeing the disturbing bend video on YouTube. I'm running the Z5p naked but the cases and glass screen protectors are coming in next week.
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How would you compare the V10 and Z5p? Which one is better?
I like them both. Z5p is my main. V10 is my backup.
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Hi please would you tell me how you find speaker phone of Sony z5 premium ? Also while calling someone.....is it clear and high volume in earphone and speakers volume on songs Rgrds
psygnosi said:
I like them both. Z5p is my main. V10 is my backup.
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My choice is probably between these two phones and then also waiting for the samsung galaxy s7 or rumored Lg g4 pro. Any thoughts on what would be the better choice?
If you where to choose between the V10 and Z5p what would you choose?
Having owned all top end phones in the last 3 years I'm must say z5 premium sits quite well amongst the current top phones 6s Plus, Nexus 6p, S6 Edge plus, M9 plus, moto x style, Blackberry Priv. I will provide very brief reasons why i think so
Where Z5 is par or performs better the other top end phones:
4k screen(obvious) - bright and vibrant
speakers - loud crisp and clear
Design - Sold with glass back
Build quality - sturdy and waterproof
Camera
Battery life - good
UI - smooth and very little lag (only BB, Moto is better due to being closest to stock android)
SD Card
Cons
PRICE (s/be priced around £500 max)
Won't get good development support, very little
riz157 said:
Having owned all top end phones in the last 3 years I'm must say z5 premium sits quite well amongst the current top phones 6s Plus, Nexus 6p, S6 Edge plus, M9 plus, moto x style, Blackberry Priv. I will provide very brief reasons why i think so
Where Z5 is par or performs better the other top end phones:
4k screen(obvious) - bright and vibrant
speakers - loud crisp and clear
Design - Sold with glass back
Build quality - sturdy and waterproof
Camera
Battery life - good
UI - smooth and very little lag (only BB, Moto is better due to being closest to stock android)
SD Card
Cons
PRICE (s/be priced around £500 max)
Won't get good development support, very little
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Thanks for the great help. So would you recommend this phone over any other atm? Or is lg v10 or waiting for samsung s7 or lg g4 pro still a good option?
Xabuk said:
Thanks for the great help. So would you recommend this phone over any other atm? Or is lg v10 or waiting for samsung s7 or lg g4 pro still a good option?
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If you don't mind LG lag and ugly UI then LG is a very good choice but for me I detest it more then Samsung UI. This of course is personal preference and not necessarily objective.
As for S7 i think it's going to be worth the wait since it will probably have 4k screen and premium build, better camera and better processor. Hopefully UI would have been revamped closer to stock android. Then again there will be news leaking of other top end phones like Iphone, HTC and Sony, Motorola etc so you could find yourself waiting even longer.
As long we keeping buying they will keep churning out phones month after month, week after week. How sad!
riz157 said:
If you don't mind LG lag and ugly UI then LG is a very good choice but for me I detest it more then Samsung UI. This of course is personal preference and not necessarily objective.
As for S7 i think it's going to be worth the wait since it will probably have 4k screen and premium build, better camera and better processor. Hopefully UI would have been revamped closer to stock android. Then again there will be news leaking of other top end phones like Iphone, HTC and Sony, Motorola etc so you could find yourself waiting even longer.
As long we keeping buying they will keep churning out phones month after month, week after week. How sad!
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Any official leaks about the s7?
Xabuk said:
Any official leaks about the s7?
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I currently own the Nexus 6P, and had the S6 Edge (sold it).
The Sony Z5 Premium is better than every other phone out there right now....the 6P is great but I think it's just slightly out of my comfort zone of 5.5 inches. Plus the Z5P just looks absolutely fantastic....I ordered the chrome version and should have it by the end of the week.
For those comparing it to the S6 or a possible S7, don't...S7 is no where near ready for a release date....the S6 is still considered new....but just as all other Samsung phones, Touchwiz still sucks and still hurts the S6 in the end...and the software builds from Samsung are still laggy to this day! My S6 Edge always started to lag considerably after I loaded it with a good 30-50 apps...the Nexus 6P works fantastic and very smoothly regardless of what you throw at it...the Sony Z5P is the same...user experience on the Z5P is probably the best of all other phones and from the few people who I know have it say there is no slowdowns or loss of performance...I'm guessing that has a lot to do with the fact that Sony hasn't gone too far from stock Android...if you Google Sony Z5P camera pictures, you will see it is very superior.
There are a lot of people talking about CPU degradation on the S6 which is happening within months of owning it...I think this really may be true or Samsung just has a lot of bad Exynos CPUs in production....my S6 Edge was a very big letdown overall except for the camera and screen which were absolutely fantastic....the Z5P looks to excel in every aspect of a smartphone with no real negatives.
gparmar76 said:
I currently own the Nexus 6P, and had the S6 Edge (sold it).
The Sony Z5 Premium is better than every other phone out there right now....the 6P is great but I think it's just slightly out of my comfort zone of 5.5 inches. Plus the Z5P just looks absolutely fantastic....I ordered the chrome version and should have it by the end of the week.
For those comparing it to the S6 or a possible S7, don't...S7 is no where near ready for a release date....the S6 is still considered new....but just as all other Samsung phones, Touchwiz still sucks and still hurts the S6 in the end...and the software builds from Samsung are still laggy to this day! My S6 Edge always started to lag considerably after I loaded it with a good 30-50 apps...the Nexus 6P works fantastic and very smoothly regardless of what you throw at it...the Sony Z5P is the same...user experience on the Z5P is probably the best of all other phones and from the few people who I know have it say there is no slowdowns or loss of performance...I'm guessing that has a lot to do with the fact that Sony hasn't gone too far from stock Android...if you Google Sony Z5P camera pictures, you will see it is very superior.
There are a lot of people talking about CPU degradation on the S6 which is happening within months of owning it...I think this really may be true or Samsung just has a lot of bad Exynos CPUs in production....my S6 Edge was a very big letdown overall except for the camera and screen which were absolutely fantastic....the Z5P looks to excel in every aspect of a smartphone with no real negatives.
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The thing that worries me is that although I am paying for a 4k display I only get to use it 10% of the time. The rest of the time the screen is in normal full hd.
Xabuk said:
The thing that worries me is that although I am paying for a 4k display I only get to use it 10% of the time. The rest of the time the screen is in normal full hd.
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That is the biggest dowside.
riz157 said:
That is the biggest dowside.
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Does it makes the 4k worthless and therefore not worth spending that extra money. I have also read that you cant see a difference between full hd and 4k on this sony phone.
You can easily change the DPI on the phone to full 4k full time without root...it can be done a few different ways...but honestly, wouldn't you prefer using 1080p when just browsing the web and mundane tasks? It automatically uses 4k anytime your using the camera or watching videos...what else could you possibly need 4k for? And remember, if it bothers you, just change the DPI and it can stay 4k permanently
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Xabuk said:
Does it makes the 4k worthless and therefore not worth spending that extra money. I have also read that you cant see a difference between full hd and 4k on this sony phone.
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You won't see the difference between 2k and 1080p either...its not the resolution that matters...it's the quality of the display panel that matters...there are 2k screens on many phones yet some look sharper and crisper than others...the Sony Z5P has a superior panel that looks fantastic regardless of the resolution... That's what matters.
Hand on heart, this looks sharper at 1080p than the S6 edge at 2k.
At 4k this thing looks amazing
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It does look sharp even with 1080p due to 4k screen, everything seems upscale.
I must say I can't tell the difference between this and other QHD screens.
Other 1080 screens don't look as sharp.
For me my dual Sim z5 premium have a bad battery ever seen..... Also biggest problem is the high heat beside the camera in the middle point..... Also delay when calling 2 to 3 sec..... I think this device the last one on Sony brand.... I think it's a very bad choice.... Believe me I swear....
hasan_abeer said:
For me my dual Sim z5 premium have a bad battery ever seen..... Also biggest problem is the high heat beside the camera in the middle point..... Also delay when calling 2 to 3 sec..... I think this device the last one on Sony brand.... I think it's a very bad choice.... Believe me I swear....
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I've had my z5p since monday. I have not had any issues with battery, call quality, screen, or speakers. I like the z5p a lot, its not as huge of an upgrade over my note 3 that I would have liked. But in all there is nothing wrong with getting the z5p. I suppose a small argument could be made about the 4k screen utilization. I think a lot of people realize that it takes a lot to push 4k and it should not surprise you the phone doesn't do 4k all the time. Be smart with your money, if the price difference between the regular z5 and the z5p is too much, then cool go with what you want.
I'm currently using Z3 Compact and I've been really satisfied.. but now the jack is not working and I'm tempted by all the good offers on the LG G4. I'm just wondering about a couple of things. Hope you peeps can answer some..
1. The size is my biggest issue... I'm afraid the LG G4 may be too big for me. I have quite small hands, but I would like a bit bigger phone than the Z3C. Do you guys think it would be too big for me?
2. Performance wise.. Will it be any upgrade?
Thanks
G4 has a large screen but feels very good in hand.
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I just switched to a G4 from a Moto X 2013. I have to admit the size scared me at first, but I'm getting used to it...
It's sad that I can barely type a message with one hand anymore (I still don't feel 100% confident in terms of balancing the phone in one hand while typing), but all the other benefits make it worth the trade.
The screen is great for reading, media consumption and just beautiful overall, and oh - the camera! Also, Marshmallow!
I don't regret my switch.
But I wouldn't mind having a bit of a smaller phone as my next one.
ProudRambo said:
I just switched to a G4 from a Moto X 2013. I have to admit the size scared me at first, but I'm getting used to it...
It's sad that I can barely type a message with one hand anymore (I still don't feel 100% confident in terms of balancing the phone in one hand while typing), but all the other benefits make it worth the trade.
The screen is great for reading, media consumption and just beautiful overall, and oh - the camera! Also, Marshmallow!
I don't regret my switch.
But I wouldn't mind having a bit of a smaller phone as my next one.
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Thanks.. It's the size im most afraid of, since I mostly use my Z3C with just one hand.. I rarely use it with two. If you were me and still had the Moto X, would you choose the G4 again, or buy a smaller one?
joakimbo said:
Thanks.. It's the size im most afraid of, since I mostly use my Z3C with just one hand.. I rarely use it with two. If you were me and still had the Moto X, would you choose the G4 again, or buy a smaller one?
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Honestly, it's also a matter of how good a deal you find. I got this G4 for a very nice price compared to how much other last year's flagships cost where I live, so the 5,5 inches is just something I can live with in exchange.
But I must admit I would prefer something around 5 inches. I would've gotten the S7 (non-edge, although the edge is beautiful) if I weren't too late for the preorder Gear VR bonus...
Didn't want to dish out so much for just the phone (over twice as much as the G4 cost me).
I had the S7 in hand and it feels perfect. ~5.1 inches is the sweet spot for my hands, it seems.
It also depends on what you're looking for in a phone... I really wanted a good camera and the G4 has one of the best.
Not sure about any other recent phones which are fairly compact and have a really good camera at the same time...
Well, there's the Galaxy S6, and you might ask why didn't I consider it - well, I didn't really fancy Samsung phones until the S7...
Although supposedly the S6 is much better with Marshmallow now... It's not a bad choice, I guess.
In the end, there's no short answer, since the size isn't the only factor here.
I think the G4 overall is such a nice device in every way... if you can get it at a good price, you won't regret it no matter if you end up typing messages in one hand or two...
Think about what you want the most in a phone and check whether the G4 has it and consider whether you're willing to live with the trade-off of having a bigger phone.
joakimbo said:
1. The size is my biggest issue... I'm afraid the LG G4 may be too big for me. I have quite small hands, but I would like a bit bigger phone than the Z3C. Do you guys think it would be too big for me?
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Only you can answer that. Are you a phone size phone type of person or not.. Why not hold one yourself.
Do take this seriously as the best phone in the world means nothing if you can't handle it comfortably. I opted for the G4 because the v10 would be too big. I did this be using a iphone 6 plus as a dummy (!) that blocky device was uncomfortable and the v10 was bigger still. My previous device had a 4.7" screen so jumping to 5.9" was a jump too far.
2. Performance wise.. Will it be any upgrade?
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I'm wondering how demanding you are of battery. How much sot do you require over how long for standby.
What sot/runtime does the Z3c give you currently over data only, over wifi only.
For me I switched from Z3 .. You will get many upgrades and noticeably better performance but you will be disappointed about the battery life a lot especially from a Z3 compact user.. SOT is barely 4 h and 30 m over wifi only.. Standby nearly 20 h
joakimbo said:
I'm currently using Z3 Compact and I've been really satisfied.. but now the jack is not working and I'm tempted by all the good offers on the LG G4.
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Wow that is a jump. I don't know what specifically attracts you to the G4. I chose it mainly for the Camera and the fact that I can enable Qi charging, which I couldn't do with the Nexus 5X. At that time I didn't even know about LG's ridiculous unlocking policy. So if Camera an Qi are not that important to you, I'd stay the hell away from the G4 and get an N5X instead. Real cheap now, latest Android, fingerprint and even a bit smaller than the G4.