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Three days ago I went through the process of rooting my kindle fire using KFU. Being a noob, this took me many many hours. I got everything to work, GO Launcher, Google Play, Amazon App store. I even used the Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper to temporily un-root so that I can watch amazon streaming videos. I was feeling pretty good about my accomplishment.
Late last night, for no apparent reason, the Kindle Fire restarted itself and got stuck on the yellow triangle (is this FireFireFire?). I got nervous, freaked out a little. I plugged into my computer and tried to restart the Kindle after selecting 'Recovery (5001)'. No luck. I then tried the same thing after selecting 'Normal (4000)'. I could hear the USB connect/disconnect many times and then I saw the "Kindle Fire" screen and let out a sigh of relief. It booted up just fine. This was about 2 hours ago.
But, now, my Kindle randomly goes back to the yellow triangle and hangs there. I need to go through the same process above to fix things. This has happened at least four times already. It did not seem to happen while the Kindle was "connected" to my computer. It happens once I 'disconnect'.... usually after about 10 - 20 minutes. It has happened while using both GO Launcher EX and the Amazon Launcher. Any idea?
You've got the same issue I do - the kindle keeps trying to apply the new update, and it isn't working, dumping it into recovery mode. I haven't figured out an answer to getting the update successfully applied yet (will work on that tonight), but until that happens, you should be able to remove the update from the sdcard /kindleupdates, and through something like root explorer rename /etc/security/otacerts.zip to something like /etc/security/otacerts.bak (or better yet, move it to the sdcard). That will stop it from redownloading the update and auto-rebooting.
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Have you looked at this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1417234 thread. The video explains the most common fix, and he goes through it step by step.
Also, so you grow a thick skin for posting on this forum, check out this link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1633343.
Hope this helps
Thanks for listening.
Sincerely,
William
[Kindle Fire: gedeROM v1.2 {3.0 Kernel, CM9, Android 4.0.4} - Stock Kernel]
[HTC Evo 4G Supersonic: MikG 3.11 ROM - Chop Suey Custom Kernel]
[Retired: HTC CDMA Hero: Gingerbread Hero Deck ROM - Stock Kernel]
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Ok. I just tested it, and had it also confirmed in another thread, but here is one way to get 6.3.1 on when the update fails to apply, putting you into the recovery, force to normal boot, kindle updates, back to recovery loop:
if you have a copy on your device, copy the update to the root of the sdcard volume or download it from amazon. Rename the file update.zip, then reboot into recovery.
Under install, install the update.zip. Once it is done, you'll have 6.3.1 applied. Now, you'll have to both reroot, and reinstall recovery, but since you just did it with KFU a few days ago, it should be pretty quick. Then go move/rename the otacerts.zip file to prevent the next unexpected update.
There might be another way that doesn't blow away recovery, but this worked for me.
Thanks so much for all of the help! It looks like everything is working again. I got 6.3.1 installed (not really sure how that happened but it did!). Also got re-rooted and reinstalled TWRP and did a backup. I renamed the otacerts.zip. There is also a cacerts.bks file in the /etc/security directory... what does that do?
Also... will I ever want/need the updates? I assume renaming the otacerts.zip stops the updates indefinitely. Will this ever be a problem?
Thanks again!
Moving the otacerts.zip prevents the kindle from automatically downloading updates. When a new update has been released, you can download it from amazon's site manually, or put back the cert file to enable the download. Since updates often break root, this method will help keep you rooted until it is known how to root the new versions. As for want/needing them, it'll depend on what changes, but as long as they are rootable, they should generally bring improvements for the device.
The. bks file is a keystore for the certificate authority certs. You shouldn't need to ever touch that file.
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Ok, I've got the exact same issue but one glaring difference. That after using KFU to boot to normal, it within 10-20sec powers down. Starting the bootloop all over. Don't know what to do, please help.
Does it actually fully boot into the kindle os? I haven't heard of it trying to apply the update that fast after start up, but not saying that it won't do that.
If using twrp, you can mount the kindle over usb from twrp - mount, and then move the update file out of kindleupdates. That should stop the boot cycle if it is being caused by the update. Another thing to check would be to look at the twrp console and make sure it is complaining about the update failing and not something else.
When I try to mount it ask me to format the drive, is that safe? Won't I lose everything then? Also, it won't allow me to select just the sd, it only allows me to select system.
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Ok, I've got the exact same issue but one glaring difference.
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That sounds eerily familiar...Where have I seen that before?
That after using KFU to boot to normal, it within 10-20sec powers down. Starting the bootloop all over. Don't know what to do, please help.
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Only kidding...Actually that problem isn't the same at all and is described in detail here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25400963
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When I try to mount it ask me to format the drive, is that safe? Won't I lose everything then? Also, it won't allow me to select just the sd, it only allows me to select system.
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Formatting your sdcard will erase everything on it. Besides trying to mount your sdcard, what are you trying to accomplish?
Well I'm stuck in bootloop with the powering off problem. The kindle is not recognized on the computer. All I want is to get the kindle back working. I have tried the unbrick utility but I think that made it worse. Getting back to a regular firmware even if its the latest would be fine. However being the noob that I am, I need step by step instructions. Thanks in advance.
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Well I'm stuck in bootloop with the powering off problem. The kindle is not recognized on the computer. All I want is to get the kindle back working. I have tried the unbrick utility but I think that made it worse. Getting back to a regular firmware even if its the latest would be fine. However being the noob that I am, I need step by step instructions. Thanks in advance.
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Your problem can still be fixed, but considering the fact you can't get the computer to recognize your device, you only have a couple of options left:
You could acquire a factory cable which would directly power your device in order to replace the bootloader.
If you don't have the means to acquire a factory cable you need to mount your sdcard in order to transfer FFF1.4 for flashing in recovery. From what I understand in your earlier post, it would in your case, require formatting your sdcard
yellow triangle and restart, please help
Jarden said:
Three days ago I went through the process of rooting my kindle fire using KFU. Being a noob, this took me many many hours. I got everything to work, GO Launcher, Google Play, Amazon App store. I even used the Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper to temporily un-root so that I can watch amazon streaming videos. I was feeling pretty good about my accomplishment.
Late last night, for no apparent reason, the Kindle Fire restarted itself and got stuck on the yellow triangle (is this FireFireFire?). I got nervous, freaked out a little. I plugged into my computer and tried to restart the Kindle after selecting 'Recovery (5001)'. No luck. I then tried the same thing after selecting 'Normal (4000)'. I could hear the USB connect/disconnect many times and then I saw the "Kindle Fire" screen and let out a sigh of relief. It booted up just fine. This was about 2 hours ago.
But, now, my Kindle randomly goes back to the yellow triangle and hangs there. I need to go through the same process above to fix things. This has happened at least four times already. It did not seem to happen while the Kindle was "connected" to my computer. It happens once I 'disconnect'.... usually after about 10 - 20 minutes. It has happened while using both GO Launcher EX and the Amazon Launcher. Any idea?
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Hello Jarde, I have the same problem but I am super noob, my kindle is restarting at the yellow triangle every 3 seconds, you said " then tried the same thing after selecting 'Normal (4000)'. I could hear the USB connect/disconnect many times and then I saw the "Kindle Fire" screen and let out a sigh of relief", what do you mean selecting 'Normal (4000)', how can I do this?, and finally how did you solve the problem, thanks a lot and sorry for my poor english.
notforever said:
Hello Jarde, I have the same problem but I am super noob, my kindle is restarting at the yellow triangle every 3 seconds, you said " then tried the same thing after selecting 'Normal (4000)'. I could hear the USB connect/disconnect many times and then I saw the "Kindle Fire" screen and let out a sigh of relief", what do you mean selecting 'Normal (4000)', how can I do this?, and finally how did you solve the problem, thanks a lot and sorry for my poor english.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25400963
I had the same issue - shutdown after a few seconds after boot, then the KF boots back into yellow triangle error.
I was able to get out of this loop by booting into recovery and wiping the cache partition (and the Dalvik cache for good measure) to remove the downloaded update file. After wiping the caches, my KF rebooted normally without issue. I could then us Root Explorer to rename the /etc/security/otacerts.zip file to something else as suggested in an earlier post. I have not had a problem since.
Hello everybody,
I've got serious problems... my Kindle fire is rooted and installed CM7. But it can't touch anything some days ago.
Even I change to recovery mode to use TWRP, but I can't touch on Install, Backup, Restore... button anymore.
Is there any problem with the hardware? Or firm-ware problem? How can I solve it?
Please help me repair.
Thank you.
Duc
If you installed a twrp theme lately, delete the theme.
[Edit:] Or are you saying the touch controls won't work at all, even while booted normally?
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soupmagnet said:
If you installed a twrp theme lately, delete the theme.
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Even when I use KFU 0.9.3 with TWRP 2.0.0, it still doesn't work
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[Edit:] Or are you saying the touch controls won't work at all, even while booted normally?
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Correct. They won't work at all in normal mode and recovery mode.
In normal mode, I saw informations on widgets still worked such as weather, clock, battery percent... But the screen won't work when I touch.
Did you install any third party kernel outside of the rom you used?
When did the touch stop working? As soon as you installed the rom or sometime after? (Or, was your kindle ever working correctly?)
It's odd that the touch would stop working outright. I'm assuming you tried lock/unlocking the screen, it may bug out.
Try hard restarting the kindle by holding down the power button for >10 seconds.
go to sdcard/twrp/ delete the folder called theme then reboot
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Did you install any third party kernel outside of the rom you used?
When did the touch stop working? As soon as you installed the rom or sometime after? (Or, was your kindle ever working correctly?)
It's odd that the touch would stop working outright. I'm assuming you tried lock/unlocking the screen, it may bug out.
Try hard restarting the kindle by holding down the power button for >10 seconds.
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Thanks for your suggestion, superxpro.
I've tried restart by holding the power button many many times but it won't work.
I didn't install any third party kernel, just CM7.
I has stop working some days ago. I don't use any app to lock/unlock screen.
I'm assuming that there was some apps automatic updated, it has bugs which conflicted with Kindle fire and make the it gone crazy.
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go to sdcard/twrp/ delete the folder called theme then reboot
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Hi Thepooch.
How can I delete that folder while I can't touch in normal and recovery mode both?
Is there any adb command which help me do this?
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Hi Thepooch.
How can I delete that folder while I can't touch in normal and recovery mode both?
Is there any adb command which help me do this?
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Thepooch thinks you have a problem with TWRP themes that's preventing you from using TWRP. You're problem is more widespread.
Because your touchscreen doesn't work in any setting, normal or recovery, I'm fairly certain it's going to be a hardware issue. I'm almost positive you will not be able to fix this with software.
I had the same problem and had to send my unit back to Amazon for replacement.
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Thepooch thinks you have a problem with TWRP themes that's preventing you from using TWRP. You're problem is more widespread.
Because your touchscreen doesn't work in any setting, normal or recovery, I'm fairly certain it's going to be a hardware issue. I'm almost positive you will not be able to fix this with software.
I had the same problem and had to send my unit back to Amazon for replacement.
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Hi kinfauns.
Is Amazon still replace other one even when my kindle rooted and up rom?
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Hi kinfauns.
Is Amazon still replace other one even when my kindle rooted and up rom?
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They send you a replacement first and you have to send yours back. If you're asking if they would charge you for the replacement because you sent back a modified Kindle Fire, I don't have any idea. You'd have to ask someone who's sent a non-stock unit back to Amazon.
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They send you a replacement first and you have to send yours back. If you're asking if they would charge you for the replacement because you sent back a modified Kindle Fire, I don't have any idea. You'd have to ask someone who's sent a non-stock unit back to Amazon.
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Thanks kinfauns.
But I still hope there is some ways to fix it by software. Because I'm in Vietnam and I bought from a man who bring this kindle from US, it's really complicated if I need to send back to Amazon.
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Hi Thepooch.
How can I delete that folder while I can't touch in normal and recovery mode both?
Is there any adb command which help me do this?
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Hi,
adb command
adb shell
#cd twrp
#rm theme
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repaired!!!!!
Hello everybody,
I'm very excited now my Kindle has been repaired!!!!!
I was download Kindle Unbrick UtilityV1.1 and play with it a little bit, clear user data, clear cache... then return to KFU and install TWRP again, suddenly it worked when I touch to Reboot button
Then, I reboot in recovery mode again and all TWRP button worked. (dance)
I was reinstall CM7, it running very smoothly now.
Thanks for all your supporting!!!!
Duc
ducdale said:
Hello everybody,
I'm very excited now my Kindle has been repaired!!!!!
I was download Kindle Unbrick UtilityV1.1 and play with it a little bit, clear user data, clear cache... then return to KFU and install TWRP again, suddenly it worked when I touch to Reboot button
Then, I reboot in recovery mode again and all TWRP button worked. (dance)
I was reinstall CM7, it running very smoothly now.
Thanks for all your supporting!!!!
Duc
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I don't want to knock you down from your high when your device is working again, but the same thing happened to my device as well. The touch interface suddenly started working again, but after a few days it died once more and never came back.
I can assure you that there's nothing magical in the unbrick utility that would fix your malfunctioning touch screen. It's just coincidence that it happened that way. I'm glad the device is working again, but you should be prepared for another fight with the touchscreen. It may be coming soon.
This was solved a long time ago...
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So i will try to use OTA Rootkeeper but how do i delete everything so that Amazon wont know i rooted it. I tried the adb shell but im getting the "Operation not permitted" message. I am returning it because it wont charge(loose USB port) and so i want to unroot, delete history of root(like apps or logs) and then just in case let my battery completley die so I have a better chance of them not seeing it.(but it still need to uninstall FFF because of the low battery screen). Thanks
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Just install the Amazon Kindle Fire Software Update.
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Just install the Amazon Kindle Fire Software Update.
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Will that delete fff and TWRP? Because When i flashed the CM9 ICS ROM it didn't delete either. Also I would like to root the new one they send me so i can do a restore, and then unroot without deleting my data. Can you help me with that?
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Will that delete fff and TWRP?
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Yes.
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Also I would like to root the new one they send me so i can do a restore, and then unroot without deleting my data. Can you help me with that?
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Go in TWRP and do a current backup.
Then while in TWRP mount USB and copy the TWRP directory(thats where your backup is located) to your computer.
When you have your new Kindle Fire refer to these threads to install FFF1.4A and TWRP 2.1.
[smirkit][05/03]install recovery+bootloader of your choice
[Root][TWRP][FFF][CWM]Kindle Fire Utility v0.9.6 (5/09/12)
Oh, sorry about not being clear. I mean I wanted to restore my old data and then unroot my new kindle. Its because the fff bootloader charging screen for low battery leaves the backlight lit up, and its annoying having to charge it via USB until its charged enough to power on. I've already made a few backups when I installed Roms. Sorry about the confusion.
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josepho1997 said:
I wanted to restore my old data and then unroot my new kindle.
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Yes just copy the TWRP Backup folder onto the NEW Kindle Fire and boot into TWRP to restore your data.
As for unrooting...Why. Download SuperSU v0.89 and it has a built-in temp unroot and ghost mode.
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Its because the fff bootloader charging screen for low battery leaves the backlight lit up, and its annoying having to charge it via USB until its charged enough to power on.
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I do not understand??
Stuck booting into recovery
I tried to install the update to unroot and now I can't get past TWRP. I downloaded the update from Amazon, Installed it in the Kindle Update folder, went into settings and pressed the update button and it powered off. When it restarted it automatically went into TWRP. I tried to reboot and same thing. Then I tried to flash my stock (rooted)recovery I made when I first got my kindle and rooted it and same. It just always goes into TWRP. Any Ideas?
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So i will try to use OTA Rootkeeper but how do i delete everything so that Amazon wont know i rooted it. I tried the adb shell but im getting the "Operation not permitted" message. I am returning it because it wont charge(loose USB port) and so i want to unroot, delete history of root(like apps or logs) and then just in case let my battery completley die so I have a better chance of them not seeing it.(but it still need to uninstall FFF because of the low battery screen). Thanks
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Sorry, I'm really new at this
Josepho1997 said:
So i will try to use OTA Rootkeeper but how do i delete everything so that Amazon wont know i rooted it. I tried the adb shell but im getting the "Operation not permitted" message. I am returning it because it wont charge(loose USB port) and so i want to unroot, delete history of root(like apps or logs) and then just in case let my battery completley die so I have a better chance of them not seeing it.(but it still need to uninstall FFF because of the low battery screen). Thanks
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download kindle fire utility..via KFU download latest stock update.zip..flash it in twrp..it would erase twrp and fff as well..and put stock recovery and stock bootloader
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Josepho1997 said:
Sorry. I re-read my posts and even I'm confused! OK, so what i meant was that I will make a backup with TWRP and then flash the Stock ROM/Update.zip or whatever its called. Then I was going to root my new Kindle so I could use TWRP and recover the Backup I made. But then I wanted to unroot it, but it would be pointless to recover my apps, and then just flash the update and delete it. So i wanted to know how to delete FFF, TWRP, and how to unroot it without flashing the update.zip that way i could keep my apps+data. I hope this post wasn't too confusing!
As for the backlight staying on when charging. FFF will give me the indicator that I need to charge due to low battery, and then it turns off the screen. Only problem is, when the screen turns off, there is the dim light(the backlight) that stays on and drains my battery. And because right now only the USB charger will fit, so it doesn't get enough power to charge, so it will actually die, turn off the light, recharge, and then leave the backlight on, so it dies again, then recharges, leaves the backlight on, and so on. But that problems solved. Thepooch told me just to do a hard reset and let it charge in that state and it worked perfectly!
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install hashcode's latest kernel..shud down backlight problem has been patched
So I'm trying to root my Kindle Fire using the newest Kindle Fire Utility (0.9.8+) but it got stuck in the very first download (twrp). It looks like there's some problem with the server, because I tried using the link it shows in the program and download it manually and also could not do it. It gets to a certain point, always going at around 2 or 3kb/s and then it completely stops, just like it happened in the program. Now I'm obviously not going to stay here forever so I would just like to know: Can I cancel this? Will it cause any damage to my Kindle if I stop it?
Thank you.
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So I'm trying to root my Kindle Fire using the newest Kindle Fire Utility (0.9.8+) but it got stuck in the very first download (twrp). It looks like there's some problem with the server, because I tried using the link it shows in the program and download it manually and also could not do it. It gets to a certain point, always going at around 2 or 3kb/s and then it completely stops, just like it happened in the program. Now I'm obviously not going to stay here forever so I would just like to know: Can I cancel this? Will it cause any damage to my Kindle if I stop it?
Thank you.
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The problem was eventually solved! It was stuck there for some good half hour, then it kept retrying (some 20 times) before giving up and moving on with the other files. There was no indication that twrp was actually installed, but in the end everything was there.
The Problem I am having seems to be a Infinite boot logo after Undoing a custom Otter jelly bean KF rom. I went through the motions of ADB KFU booting into recovery. I factory restored, wiped and attempted to install my back up of the stock kindle fire rom. wiped caches, and then let it do its "boot up" how ever it did not move past that point, and has been stuck at the "kindle fire" logo screen.
Is there anyway to fix what I probably broke?
KFU Utility vers 0.9.6
TWRP vers 2.4.4
OS version Windows 8 X64
Kindle fire Rom version 6.2.1
Otter jelly bean was 4.2.1 a release sometime in February is the closest I can get. I can't exactly roll back now can I?
Any other information I forgot or neglected to supply on first post was unintentional. First time I have ever had a problem.
Thanks in advance
~ Zach
I had that problem awhile back. What I ended up doing was flashed another ROM and then see if it worked(it did). Then I flashed the stock ROM again and deleted everything. Cache, SD, factory reset etc. After that it seemed to be working just fine.
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jakeyablosky said:
I had that problem awhile back. What I ended up doing was flashed another ROM and then see if it worked(it did). Then I flashed the stock ROM again and deleted everything. Cache, SD, factory reset etc. After that it seemed to be working just fine.
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My problem is, I can't get the device out of this logo "loop" it won't let me install TWRP or the other one. Let alone get into the TWRP currently installed. I wonder if I can get Screen Shots up on here.
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My problem is, I can't get the device out of this logo "loop" it won't let me install TWRP or the other one. Let alone get into the TWRP currently installed. I wonder if I can get Screen Shots up on here.
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I think you're having the same problem I'm having. If you look at my post regarding stuck at logo that I posted yesterday see if it's the same.
What is your logo doing? Does it stay bright or does it turn on and blink and then fade?
Based on what I've read we need them to get them into fastboot and then side load TWRP and FFF and start again.
I think what we've done is removed or cleared too much in TWRP and our bootloaders are broken, but I could be talking out of my you know what.
Good luck to you and I will follow your thread and you may want to follow mine.
The only thing I can think of is getting a Factory Cable and reset you Kindle Fire
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Leroy,
I think Jakey has it.
I was just about ready to pitch this thing in the trash and I decided to plug in my factory cable one last time and run KFU.
For whatever reason I decided to select the root option again even though it said status offline and it rerooted my device.
My logo is now white/blue and I think I can get a rom back onto it.
You may want to hit Skorpn up for a cable, he shipped it super fast and it's great work.
Leroy,
Since it seems you are having the same problem I was and replies are pretty slow in here these days (I'm sure most people are tired of repeat posts like mine), I thought I would post precisely what I did to fix mine.
I too had the infinite boot logo that stayed bright and tried everything from KFU, to unbrick tool, to Soupkit, nothing seemed to work. I bought a factory cable from Skorpn, but didn't really understand how to use it. I think there is so much information here and many various ways to get things fixed it takes awhile to digest it.
Right before I got ready to pitch it in the trash I figured I would try KFU one more time even though it wasn't seeing my Kindle. Device manager saw the ADB drivers in Android device though.
I plugged in the factory cable
Launched KFU
Device said "offline"
Tried various options until I finally saw the install permanent root with superuser (option 2)
That did the trick
I then unplugged my factory cable from both the PC and KF and booted the KF into recovery
I downloaded a ROM (Hashcodes and GAPPS) and side loaded them
That did it!
I'm not sure how or why since it said it was offline but it fixed it.
Again, Skorpn was awesome to work with and sent the cable to me quickly.
Good luck to you!