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To have two phones connected to one line. Sharing the same minutes, data usage and txt msgs?
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Its illegal...but yes
It is called cloning a device. They used to do it for pagers but that is a major difference. Doubt you will find anyone to do it for a cell phone but theoretically it could be done.
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What about a family plan
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What about a family plan
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That would cost money... I joke, but really this is the way to go. I have 5 lines on my family plan. We still only use 200-300 if the 1500 landline minutes.
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Aren't there also a lot of technical problems with a clone?
EX: A call or text comes in to your number and only one of the phones gets it.
I know I am off topic here but can someone explain VoIP to me please?
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I know I am off topic here but can someone explain VoIP to me please?
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Googe voice. Lmao...voip is caling over the internet
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Googe voice. Lmao...voip is caling over the internet
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I think I am spending too much time testing and not enough time learning. Thanks
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I think I am spending too much time testing and not enough time learning. Thanks
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It is how Vonage and Majic jack work as well as a good part of the Sprint Airave. They just use your internet connection.
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It is how Vonage and Majic jack work as well as a good part of the Sprint Airave. They just use your internet connection.
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Ok, so on the most current Miui build Wifi works and voice calling isn't quite there yet. How would I go about setting something like this up? Do I need to get a specific app?
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Googe voice. Lmao...voip is caling over the internet
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More accurately, it is called Voice Over Internet Protocol. Goole voice is a specific service that uses the protocol, similar to the issue of Kleenex being a specific brand of tissue paper.
I like to clear up confusion before it gets too far - we Americans have redefined too many words out of ignorance and fallacious assumptions as it is ;-)
@John - I haven't looked at VoiP solutions for Android in several months, but GrooveIP was a great app to use Google Voice for this purpose. At the time that I discovered it myself, the official Google Voice app didn't support voice calls on Android, so the only free way I had found involved an intermediary internet number (called a DID number, using a SIP account... it gets convoluted and confusing too damn fast, and wasn't very stable... plus, all of the free SIP providers I could find seemed to shut down around the end of June, for some reason).
What are you trying to accomplish? The only use that readily comes to my mind is to avoid using limited anytime minutes by using unlimited data instead - I rooted a friend's phone for this purpose, because his girlfriend always tore through all of their minutes in the first week of the month, then *****ed at him when she was unable to call him (obviously, the *****ing came later that evening, lol) I should explain that they're on a prepaid provider that doesn't do any free mobile to mobile minutes, etc. Just re read you4r last post more closely, answering my own question
And I mistyped one part - google voice didn't support outbound calls, lol - one word makes all the difference. Actually, I think the issue was that outbound calls used minutes you have to purchase... it wasn't the ideal situation for my friend's budget...
Anyway, my friend also had an Evo that he was unable to flash to Virgin, so I initially tested on that using just a wifi connection. It works great, and actually save my ass one night when a bad flash rendered my Epic unusable, and I couldn't get to my laptop for another 10 hours. I found a McDonald's or Starbucks with the free hotspot service whenever I needed to make or receive a call
EDIT: I am doubting the accuracy of my statements... but I am certain that GrooveIP does not need an active mobile network and does not eat up minutes, because Virgin doesn't do free incoming calls (at least not on their lowest Android plan). So I may have some details mixed up, but GrooveIP will work.
I should mention that GrooveIP was a $4 app when I set my friend up, no trial version to be found either
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I guess I was trying to find a way to make calls using the most current Miui build. It only works on Wifi and when I make or receive a call you can't hear anything so I was hoping I could ring a roundabout way while they are working on it. Thanks for the thorough response.
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Has anyone seen this yet?
Apparently its going to be illegal to unlock your cellphone if you purchase it from a carrier instead of outright buying an unlocked phone.
http://consumerist.com/2013/01/25/a...roviders-permission-to-unlock-new-cellphones/
I think we should all sign this petition
Webstas, none of my post below is directed at you. I can see how it would come off that way. That is not my intention at all.
Let's read a bit more into this. It is NOT going to be illegal for you to unlock your phone. It WILL be if you do it without the permission of your carrier. That means that T-Mobile and AT&T will have to do it for you. For Verizon (and Maybe Sprint but not sure), there is an FCC requirement that any devices utilizing 700MHz for LTE cannot be locked.
In your link, it states:
So what that all means is that, if you have a cellphone right now, you can still unlock it at your leisure and not be breaking the law. But any phone purchased after tomorrow will need to be done so with the permission of your wireless carrier.
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Then there is this from Cnet:
Starting this Saturday, it becomes illegal in this great land to unlock a new smartphone without the permission of the carrier that locked it in the first place.
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Legacy phones seem to be exempt to this policy for good reason.
Enforceability? I highly doubt you'll get a jail sentence for going to a 3rd party to unlock your phone. Maybe a small $20 penalization on your bill. But really, how could they enforce that? Are the big 4 going to run some algorithm that will scan all of their customers IMEI numbers and ping the mothership when the come across someone that used a hack or 3rd party? I doubt it.
Not saying that there isn't cause for concern at BigBrother again dipping his hand in the cookie jar. But let's not get the pitchforks and torches just yet. Petitions are great ways for people to voice their opinions and great things can happen because of them (ala Change.org and the Verizon $2 "convenience" fee), but they need to be worded correctly and not some rant like many become.
My work filter won't let me look at the petition that you linked, so I am not sure what it says. I work for lawyers, so I tend to think the way they do.
Its true...better get your new phones NOW before this is enacted across the board.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105...king-of-smartphones-becomes-illegal-saturday/
Plus, T-Mobile makes it pretty easy to request an unlock anyways. For customers on a monthly plan:
- your T-Mobile account is in good standing;
- you have a minimum of 40 consecutive days of active service with T-Mobile;
- you did not request an unlock code in the last 90 days (except in connection with a device exchange or upgrade);
- the device has not been reported as lost or stolen;
- T-Mobile has verified usage of the IMEI applicable to the device; and
the device has been completely paid for.
I just requested the unlock code for my old G2 and got it in about 2 weeks.
I only bought unlocked phones in the past. But since there is only one carrier I intend to do business with, an unlocked or locked T-Mobile phone won't matter to me.
Would this be true for contract bought phones? Or even phones bought without contracts?
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It's illegal to download pirated movies, music and software. I'm glad we don't have any of that on the internet anymore.
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Would this be true for contract bought phones? Or even phones bought without contracts?
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It would be true for every phone, regardless of how it is purchased.
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My work filter won't let me look at the petition that you linked, so I am not sure what it says. I work for lawyers, so I tend to think the way they do.
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your work filter blocks whitehouse.gov? wow thats strict
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your work filter blocks whitehouse.gov? wow thats strict
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My work blocks EVERY website not applicable to work. And in my line of work, that means we get about 5 sites including our own and our own internal site... Smh. Thank heavens for smartphones
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After I heard about this a couple of days ago and I was driving home from work sort of zoning out and I wondered :
Could websites like this one get into some sort of legal trouble? I'm sure that I am way over thinking this, but a lot of websites specifically show step by step instructions on how to ROOT almost every phone known to man. But then I thought to myself.... Just because something may be against the law, doesn't mean that you can't talk about it or have instructions on how to do such a thing. Okay, now I'm questioning myself after that description. What do you guys think? Will this have any effect on us going into the future?
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Rooting and unlocking are different. Unlocking is a very small % of sites like XDA
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se1000 said:
It's illegal to download pirated movies, music and software. I'm glad we don't have any of that on the internet anymore.
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Lol
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http://www.tmonews.com/2013/01/t-mo...-regarding-dmca-phone-unlocking-restrictions/
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Sign the petition to stop this from happening.
http://www.droiddog.com/android-blo...ocking-phones-yourself-make-your-voice-heard/
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...from what I've read this only affects people who make and use tools to unlock their phones for free without contacting apple/the carrier like the one for the iPhone.
Its my understanding that websites that offer unlock codes for a fee (or just imei unlock in the case of an iPhone) are still going to be legal.
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...from what I've read this only affects people who make and use tools to unlock their phones for free without contacting apple/the carrier like the one for the iPhone.
Its my understanding that websites that offer unlock codes for a fee (or just imei unlock in the case of an iPhone) are still going to be legal.
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It's now illegal to unlock your phone whatsoever unless done by the carrier.
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It's now illegal to unlock your phone whatsoever unless done by the carrier.
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That doesn't seem right...so say I get an at&t phone on ebay and want to unlock it so I can use it on T-Mobile. Do I have to go beg at&t for them to unlock it now??
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That doesn't seem right...so say I get an at&t phone on ebay and want to unlock it so I can use it on T-Mobile. Do I have to go beg at&t for them to unlock it now??
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Unfortunately, yes.
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http://www.tmonews.com/2013/01/t-mo...-regarding-dmca-phone-unlocking-restrictions/
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http://www.droiddog.com/android-blo...ocking-phones-yourself-make-your-voice-heard/
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Edit... Waste of time
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T-Mobile will fight this full force. Their newest game plan is to have AT&T customers bring their unlocked phone over to them for use on the T-Mobile network.
As for us current T-Mobile customers, all you have to do is simply call them up and tell them that you are going out of the country for a while. They will give you the unlock code for free within a couple days. T-Mobile is really good about unlocking. Honestly we, as T-Mobile customers, have nothing to worry about with this matter.
(Though I do still agree that this is a total BS law which should be overturned).
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I need help guys, I was using my phone for only a week when all of a sudden I can't call or text or listen to my voice mail... instead I keep recieving "not registered to network" messages when i try and do anything involving data. When I go to my settings to enable data, its already on, but when I look for an available network, it turns off my data.. its like a never ending loop. Regardless of which I do first. My s4 is rooted but I doubt that could be the issue becauze it worked with my phone being rooted, anyone have any solution other than replacement?
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Take a look to your apn and also make sure your IME has a # like 03 instead of just a 0 also check that on mobile networks make sure that the LTE/GSMA something lik that.. Is checked.. Make sure it has the LTE...
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Idk what you ment by the ime # not having an 03, but I checked and made sure everything else was in the right position and they are, but its still being stubborn
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This could also be a bad SIM
Maybe, but why randomly stop working? Before this situation, my phone was sending me errors about how I couldnt wifi call due to an outdated sim card, so I went and got a new one, that didnt work.
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Maybe, but why randomly stop working? Before this situation, my phone was sending me errors about how I couldnt wifi call due to an outdated sim card, so I went and got a new one, that didnt work.
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And all you've done it root it? That's not going to cause your issue, and you have a new SIM. It's starting to look like bad hardware.
lagunas11 was asking you to verify your IMEI
Wait.. I think your right about the whole SIM deal, I switched to Family Mobile about a week ago and they dont really have new sim cards just the original big than micro, so im going to take a guess and say it is the sim
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Wait.. I think your right about the whole SIM deal, I switched to Family Mobile about a week ago and they dont really have new sim cards just the original big than micro, so im going to take a guess and say it is the sim
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That's most likely what it is then. So they are giving customers cut down regular SIM cards? I'm lost...
Nah, when you purchase the SIM Card, its a big one but within side is a micro-sim, that you can pop out incase you desire one, but if you need the big one, you can easily pop the micro back into the big. Thanks for your help man, I guess im going, to be phoneless for a little
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Nah, when you purchase the SIM Card, its a big one but within side is a micro-sim, that you can pop out incase you desire one, but if you need the big one, you can easily pop the micro back into the big. Thanks for your help man, I guess im going, to be phoneless for a little
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That always sucks... Try turning off data and setting the Network Mode to GSM/WCDMA auto, maybe you can at least txt and call...
Thanks for everything man, turns out my imei number got locked after I reported this phone stolen, I called tmobile just earlier today and now I just wait 48 hours before my phone will be active again
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Thanks for everything man, turns out my imei number got locked after I reported this phone stolen, I called tmobile just earlier today and now I just wait 48 hours before my phone will be active again
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I even face palmed myself after reading this.
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I'm with at&t and am going to get the note 8 lte, which are the best apps to make phone calls,and also a video call?
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I heard that the at&t n5120 cant make phone call simply by putting in a sim. Can your note make phone calls the same way your phone works without using any app ? If no then the only app that works for me and free is viber. Gg talk was good but now it is dead
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I heard that the at&t n5120 cant make phone call simply by putting in a sim. Can your note make phone calls the same way your phone works without using any app ? If no then the only app that works for me and free is viber. Gg talk was good but now it is dead
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The i467 does not have the phone software, you are correct.
I use GrooveIP for voice over Google Voice and Hangouts for the rest.
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I'm with at&t and am going to get the note 8 lte, which are the best apps to make phone calls,and also a video call?
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Groove ip
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Thanks,I'm going to try them out!!
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Thanks,I'm going to try them out!!
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happy to see someone using dell streak now...
Dell streak 5 was an amazing device.... Very poorly marketed... Dell would have been in a different part of the economics had they done a good job...
Yes,that's what me and my brother have always thought,Dell had it right before anyone else,now everyone is making the same size,they didn't advertise it,so no one knew about it. Its still a great phone,I've had mine for 2 1/2 yrs.,I wish Dell would have made the streak 2,opus 1?. I haven't upgraded in 8 months because there hasn't been anything I've wanted alot more yet.I'm still on Froyo and would like to move up to Jelly Bean though: ),I will get the note 8,and still looking at phones,note 3,z ultra,...ect. . . I like the Lenovo k900,but don't know if that would work with at&t.
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Dialer App?
I have a ATT Galaxy Note 8 with a wireless data plan. It clearly has a micro-SIM and a LTE modem.
Really, all I think it needs is the actual Dialer app. Which leads me to the question: how would I install it?
I know that in some european markets the Note 8 has phone capabilities... would it be simpler to flash a euro image onto it?
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If you are getting the Note 8 with the intention of using it as your primary phone, I'll chime in and say I haven't been happy with the quality of VoIP on AT&T's HSPA network. Your results may be better with LTE, but I think there is something about AT&T's network that makes it less suitable for VoIP than Verizon. I don't know for sure, I'm speculating based on what I've experienced.
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Thanks y'all, I will be looking into this,I would send text messages on it mostly,and also having the ability to make a call would be nice too,I will reply on how it does when I get it and start trying things out!
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I used groove ip, and made a phone call and it sounded great!! It was real clear, now im just going through google voice settings trying to receive calls, I'm using Talkatone too, in google voice you have a different number that people see when you call, it says you can port-use your cell number, but it cost $20 to do it, which I think I'm going to end up doing, just still trying to receive calls, it says to click on make a new number in google voice, then make sure forward calls is checked,...I think I'll get the receiving calls working soon: )..also the sending text are working!
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I feel hi-tech: )))
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Felt let down!!
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I feel hi-tech: )))
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What a big let down, you can imagine I just got it today (Note 8.0 LTE) the whole time I thought this is one big phone/tablet that will let me use it as a phone because of the SIM card slot and 4g and LTE abilities!! Only to find out that only international version can make calls!! WTF!! Hope to try your ways otherwise I am hoping someone will come up with a rom that enable this feature for good!
It'll work as a phone great, I just called my Dad today and had him call me back on talkatone, and it sounds great, also groove ip too, just get the app, then go on your computer to google voice and get a google voice number, it let's you scan through a bunch, just pick one and follow the steps, it sounds better than using my cell phone on speaker!
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Why not just return it and buy the N5100? VoIP calling works well over a strong signal, but is LTE really worth it when a phone version is available?
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Hi
Been using a note 2 for 12 months now and quite frankly am bored stiff.
Also to add insult to injury I am on 3 mobile network who in their wisdom have a funny SIM rule whereby a phone sim cannot be used in a tablet.
The result is data being blocked to the device.
I plan to end the contract early and go to a new carrier.
So can I have a show of hands please.
What network can this device be used on as a phone
Thanks for your input
Lee
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I'm on Three too, but a tablet contact. Amazing speed and coverage but can't include calls or texts in the package, which is silly.
As to other networks you're likely to needed a tablet/data contact to avoid a similar fate. Giffgaff is a good bet but I'd definitely contact whomever you choose first to confirm.
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Have you actually tried? I've used my 3 SIM in my Note 1, 2, 3, 8.0 3G and my 10.1 3G (when I had it) all worked fine?
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They will work but eventually Three work detect that the device you're using isn't a phone and cut off data. They check IMEI numbers.
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But it IS a phone albeit a large one
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I agree it is a phone...Samsung should get involved as it could lose potential customers from buying such device but cant if there tied into 3.
I personally am willing to buy out of remaining 12 months and go to new carrier than continue using a note 2 which am very bored of...
This rule is just so outrageous 3 would need to get 100s or even thousands of complaints to remove this...but then how many people want to use a note 8 or any other tablet as a phone...not many ide say
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