I am about to take the plunge and root the LG G3. It's been a couple weeks and I don't see any hardware faults so I would like to root and then debloat.
I can find some debloating threads here, but my main question was. . .how will I need to update after I have rooted the device
Say, I root today and then tomorrow AT&T releases an update for my device. Since I have rooted, I can't take the OTA update. But, is there a place that LG posts those updates? Can I download an update somewhere and and manually update with a specific windows application?
Or, will my updates only come in the form of ROMs after I have rooted?
I have the European D855 which was rooted using Towelroot. It has taken OTA updates perfectly twice now. Had to reinstall Xposed, but that was to be expected.
RudeYute said:
I have the European D855 which was rooted using Towelroot. It has taken OTA updates perfectly twice now. Had to reinstall Xposed, but that was to be expected.
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I'm not sure if it works the same way with the AT&T variant, but thanks for telling me your experience
It seems that some people reported being able to receive OTA despite being rooted, and some can't. I am one of those who can't. However, I have always been able to update using the LG PC Suite software even when I am rooted. That part I think is quite safe. Only issue is you will lose root after you've updated, in which case you will have to re-root. This may not be possible if the upgraded firmware has patched the exploit.
RudeYute said:
I have the European D855 which was rooted using Towelroot. It has taken OTA updates perfectly twice now. Had to reinstall Xposed, but that was to be expected.
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So i dont have to unroot or do anything with lg flash tool to upgrade your firmware?
Just the normal OTA?
thx
Same here Do i need to unroot?
annyone else had problems?
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should I use auto update if I'm going to root and install custom rom later?
For me only, once I rooted I purposely used titanium backup to freeze "system updates".
I still get normal app updates, but don't want any system updates, that may break root, until my phone is unlocked.
Ok thanks, if I update can I still root after? After the update if I do a factory reset will the update be lost?
An update can remove root, and patch the methods that a particular root uses to take effect, depending on what it does. That is why I am avoiding updates until the phone is unlocked.
By the way, I can't post on dev forum so I'll take advantage of this topic here.
I already know that Purple Drake's root is working till the V10I update.
I rooted my G3 and disabled OTA's. If I enable them again, run the OTA update (V10I) I'll probably lose root, right?
But, if I apply PD root, will I get root again w/o losing all my data?
thanks!
What is the advantage of the update, should I even bother with it?
alfablac said:
By the way, I can't post on dev forum so I'll take advantage of this topic here.
I already know that Purple Drake's root is working till the V10I update.
I rooted my G3 and disabled OTA's. If I enable them again, run the OTA update (V10I) I'll probably lose root, right?
But, if I apply PD root, will I get root again w/o losing all my data?
thanks!
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Has anyone done the OTA update from verizon?
I expect that I will lose root, but can I get it back the same way I did with 10B?
Dont do it.
I got my G3 about 4 days ago, and i immediately updated it. I think i found a way to flash back to 10b so i can root. As of now, i am unable to root with stomproot, ioroot, and purpledrake (or whatever its called). I have no idea what would happen if a rooted g3 with 10b upgraded to 11c.
Maybe towel root would work
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Towel root didn't work for 10b
blindguyinanorgy said:
Has anyone done the OTA update from verizon?
I expect that I will lose root, but can I get it back the same way I did with 10B?
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blindguyinanorgy said:
Towel root didn't work for 10b
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Please refer to your Verizon G3 forums - http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/general. There are several threads there that talk about the OTA update, why it is not good to take OTA updates, and luckily for you a method for getting back to 10b.
Consider yourself lucky. There is no guarantee that you will be able to downgrade after taking an OTA update. Blindly taking updates is a great way to loose root and bump in the future.
Almost every thread that shows you how to root and bump tells you to not take updates, c'mon guys they are telling you to protect your device.
sic0048 said:
Please refer to your Verizon G3 forums - http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-lg-g3/general. There are several threads there that talk about the OTA update, why it is not good to take OTA updates, and luckily for you a method for getting back to 10b.
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I didn't think there was a verizon thread last time i looked (months ago). Someone please move this thread.
sic0048 said:
Consider yourself lucky. There is no guarantee that you will be able to downgrade after taking an OTA update. Blindly taking updates is a great way to loose root and bump in the future.
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Not lucky, I know to ask first, hence this thread.
I didnt realize how for the community has come on custom flashing since I got my phone and rooted it. Definitely need to spend some time seeing what we got.
I did the update last night. I can confirm that the update did not remove my root and in fact the update only was to make the phone run more smoothly.
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I did the update last night. I can confirm that the update did not remove my root and in fact the update only was to make the phone run more smoothly.
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It didn't remove root, but it is currently unrootable. This means that if you should loose root somehow, you will not be able to get it back. I HIGHLY suggest you go to the Verizon G3 forum and read all the threads there. You can get all the benefits of the update without loosing the root method via the methods there.
I don't know how many times this has been said, but apparently there are still a ton of dumb people out there.......
NEVER TAKE AN OTA UPDATE IF YOU LIKE BEING ROOTED OR IF YOU EXPECT TO RETAIN THE ABILITY TO BUMP
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It didn't remove root, but it is currently unrootable. This means that if you should loose root somehow, you will not be able to get it back. I HIGHLY suggest you go to the Verizon G3 forum and read all the threads there. You can get all the benefits of the update without loosing the root method via the methods there.
I don't know how many times this has been said, but apparently there are still a ton of dumb people out there.......
NEVER TAKE AN OTA UPDATE IF YOU LIKE BEING ROOTED OR IF YOU EXPECT TO RETAIN THE ABILITY TO BUMP
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Well luckily i still had root before the update.
I'm just wondering if it's safe to rollback the firmware on my Galaxy Tab S 10.5" to the previous one or if it causes some sort of conflict.
I want to do so because I've just installed the most recent one (T800ODD1ANK1 - India) and I can't root it using Cf-Autoroot posted here.
Thanks!
What happens when you try to root it?
DUHAsianSKILLZ said:
What happens when you try to root it?
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Nothing. I did it with Odin and it just reboots to the same old unrooted tablet. All is working fine as usual, but no root.
What botters me the most is that I had Xposed framework installed but now it has no functionality and all the modules I had installed don't work. I would install the previous firmware but I'm afraid of breaking something, with installing older software on top of newer one.
I was able to root the US version of that ROM (T800XXU1ANK1) using CF Auto Root from Chainfire:
http://download.chainfire.eu/473/CF...uto-Root-chagallwifi-chagallwifixx-smt800.zip
Perhaps give that a shot???
I will but the India version has a more recent changelist (which was the reason why I chose to install it).
Thanks in advance.
As I predicted, since the changelist is different (your version has the same as the older one I had, with functioning root, but not with this one), no root.
Does anyone know if it is safe to install a previous version of the software? Like, for example, Cellular South ANK1 (with an older changelist).
Thanks.
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I was able to root the US version of that ROM (T800XXU1ANK1) using CF Auto Root from Chainfire:
http://download.chainfire.eu/473/CF...uto-Root-chagallwifi-chagallwifixx-smt800.zip
Perhaps give that a shot???
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I'm having the same issue as the original poster. It says I am rooted, but I'm not because root checker just keeps spinning and there isn't a SU# icon in my apps. I've done this with Odin about a million times before, for some reason on my new T800 (after I updated the software), it doesn't work.
Am I missing a step because I have the same version you have? Extract the file. Load the md5 file into AP. Hit Start. Wait for it to reboot. Right?
Yea root isn't working for me with T800XXU1ANK1. =(
Im assuming you ran Super SU and updated the binaries or whatever it asks, or updated the app in playstore?
Ive done nothing different and root works fine.
I was thinking about another root alternative. I was thinking about downloading the supersu zip and save it to the device or sd card. Then flash twrp recovery with odin, then boot into recovery and flash the supersu zip to get root? Could that work as an alternative since it flashes root in the process?
I just rolled back to T800XXU1ANJ6 and I am rooted.
I just bought a Tab S, and I can't seem to find an answer to a question that relates to this thread. Is there any advantage to updating before rooting?
I can't decide if I should root it now or update the software, and then root. After searching some, it appears that it doesn't matter whether I upgrade or not, but I can't seem to find if there is any advantage to updating it then rooting. Like, is it easier to get the latest firmware that way?
PeterGunz said:
I just bought a Tab S, and I can't seem to find an answer to a question that relates to this thread. Is there any advantage to updating before rooting?
I can't decide if I should root it now or update the software, and then root. After searching some, it appears that it doesn't matter whether I upgrade or not, but I can't seem to find if there is any advantage to updating it then rooting. Like, is it easier to get the latest firmware that way?
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If i am correct, There should be stock custom roms available that are prerooted so you can flash over. As for an ota update, that is faster than being rooted then flashing lollipop rom.
Anyway we have a lollipop rom already built. Its smooth and most things are working. Its really cool and id rather use this than waiting for samsung to get the latest update out. Do you have the 10.5 in or 8.4 inch?
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If i am correct, There should be stock custom roms available that are prerooted so you can flash over. As for an ota update, that is faster than being rooted then flashing lollipop rom.
Anyway we have a lollipop rom already built. Its smooth and most things are working. Its really cool and id rather use this than waiting for samsung to get the latest update out. Do you have the 10.5 in or 8.4 inch?
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I have the wifi 10.5 inch.
So, you are saying update OTA then root, unless I want to jump to Lollipop (which I do), which in that case it doesn't matter so I should just root and flash a lollipop rom?
Thanks for helping me out.
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I have the wifi 10.5 inch.
So, you are saying update OTA then root, unless I want to jump to Lollipop (which I do), which in that case it doesn't matter so I should just root and flash a lollipop rom?
Thanks for helping me out.
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Up to you If you want to jump to lollipop/CM12, just run flash Cfautoroot( with odin to root) then install twrp and flash the lollipop rom. There is a thread for cm12/lollipop in the development tab s section.
But wait! Rooting trips knox with voids your warranty. Same users has reported getting service from samsung for free of charge from defective units and some had to pay to get defective parts replaced by samsung. 50/50 chance. I took the risk and havent got a hardbrick or anything yet.
Regards
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Up to you If you want to jump to lollipop/CM12, just run flash Cfautoroot( with odin to root) then install twrp and flash the lollipop rom. There is a thread for cm12/lollipop in the development tab s section.
But wait! Rooting trips knox with voids your warranty. Same users has reported getting service from samsung for free of charge from defective units and some had to pay to get defective parts replaced by samsung. 50/50 chance. I took the risk and havent got a hardbrick or anything yet.
Regards
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Thank you for the heads-up. I've rooted all 6 of my android phones that I've had, so I'm not too worried about voiding the watrranty. Judging by your reply it sounds like there are a lot of lemons out there for this device. Mine seems to be running okay, but I just can't take all the lag that I assume comes from TW and bloatware. My HTC One M8 with Lollipop seems faster and smoother than my Tab S at stock. Although after typing the last sentence, I put Nova on there and sped up all the animations and it is definitely light years faster than my One M8 now.
I think the answer to the original post is that the Su binary was installed, but the op didn't download then update Super su after rooting. You wont get full root until you do as there is no app to handle root requests.
Hello guys,
I'm sorry I created a new thread to ask some questions but nobody responded when I asked on an existing thread. Also, I think you should keep this thread for new users who what to know everything about rooting their LG G3.
So, my questions are the following:
I just bought the LG G3 (D855, runs Lollipop out of the box) and I want to root to it (I've rooted many devices before) but will I be able to receive OTA updates? Does LG has any security feature like Samsung's Knox that is triggered by the rooting process and marks my device? Is there any danger in general?
If later on I decide to flash TWRP and custom ROMs will I have to unlock the bootloader?
Thank you for your time, and again, sorry for the new tread.
I am not sure about the Lollipop version but when I was running KitKat I was notified of OTA updates but when I've tried to run it I got a pop up that update couldn't be applied because my phone was rooted. had to get rid of root than I could update it.
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I am not sure about the Lollipop version but when I was running KitKat I was notified of OTA updates but when I've tried to run it I got a pop up that update couldn't be applied because my phone was rooted. had to get rid of root than I could update it.
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From what I heard a simple unroot from SuperSu app was not even enough, because the stock fw has a counter that is incremented in case you root, and therefore even if you remove root the counter will still prevent you from applying the OTA.
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From what I heard a simple unroot from SuperSu app was not even enough, because the stock fw has a counter that is incremented in case you root, and therefore even if you remove root the counter will still prevent you from applying the OTA.
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I've flashed a stock firmware and updated. There may have been a simpler way, but I am not an expert.
Again I am not sure if things got easier or harder with Lollipop but to be very honest in the last few firmware updates I did not see anything life changing from LG that would worth the hassle. I think being rooted is much more valuable than the latest firmware updates were.
For me personally anyways
tylerdurden83 said:
From what I heard a simple unroot from SuperSu app was not even enough, because the stock fw has a counter that is incremented in case you root, and therefore even if you remove root the counter will still prevent you from applying the OTA.
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Thank you guys for the answers! :good:
So, LG indeed has a "security" feature that messes with your device. Can someone confirm it?
If the counter is software can't we alter/erase it? Or is it hw-based like Samsung's Knox Warranty Void? If it is hw-based we cannot do something.
Just got the phone a few hours ago and want to root it and install Xposed. But I'm not sure what's the best path.
So far it seems like VS98610B is an old version nobody is using and that if I root it, I won't be able to upgrade in the future without breaking the phone, is that correct?
If I go to "Check for new system update" it asks if I want to update to 11A. From what I understand from this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=64116024&postcount=362 is that I want to take the update, then after it installs that update, it should ask to update again to 13B? And that it is this 13B version that I root?
Am I able to unlock the bootloader on any of these versions? Why does it ask me to go to 11A instead of straight to 13B?
All I can say is that you are damn lucky and DO NOT update or flash a non 10B image of you have any desire to unlock the bootloader and use custom ROMs and such
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Just got the phone a few hours ago and want to root it and install Xposed. But I'm not sure what's the best path.
So far it seems like VS98610B is an old version nobody is using and that if I root it, I won't be able to upgrade in the future without breaking the phone, is that correct?
If I got to "Check for new system update" it asks if I want to update to 11A. From what I understand from this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=64116024&postcount=362 is that I want to take the update, then after it installs that update, it should ask to update again to 13B? And that it is this 13B version that I root?
Am I able to unlock the bootloader on any of these versions? Why does it ask me to go to 11A instead of straight to 13B?
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Just my opinion but holding for a bootloader unlock is pointless and no you can't unlock it on any version. I waited for a year for the note 4 to get root or unlocked and never did. As days pass it's less likely we will ever see it unlocked on the g4.
To root take the OTA and get to 13b then follow the root guide in the forums....with root, xposed, and a little debloat this phone is awesome!
Awesome.that's what I was looking for. If it's already been since june and nobody has cracked it, that's not looking too good. My only worry now is why it's not taking me straight to 13b? It will take me to 13b after 11a right?
Also where is a good up-to-date root thread? There's nothing stickied.
If someone is on the verge of cracking the bootloader, how do I root this version so I can holdout, without killing my ability to upgrade in the future?
I'm also really interested in getting the fm radio working.that was one of the deciding factors when getting the phone. I did not know that Verizon crippled it.
EDIT: Also what's the benefit to upgrading? 10B is already android 5.1 so what is gained?
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I'm also really interested in getting the fm radio working.that was one of the deciding factors when getting the phone. I did not know that Verizon crippled it.
EDIT: Also what's the benefit to upgrading? 10B is already android 5.1 so what is gained?
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I never ran on 10B, so I don't know what benefits there were going to 11, however, 11 to 13b saw major improvements to touch responsiveness for most people (I never had touch issues on my phone, so I don't know on that count, but maybe I just never noticed); I also found that the phone performs a lot better and the battery lasts a bit more.
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All I can say is that you are damn lucky and DO NOT update or flash a non 10B image of you have any desire to unlock the bootloader and use custom ROMs and such
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The rumored unlocked bootloader is vaporware. There has been no update on the status of it, especially for the Verizon variant. See here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/general/unlock-unofficial-bootloader-unlock-t3222737
I've already considered of foregoing the mythical v0 unlock bootloader (VS98610B firmware, aka 10B) and move up to VS98613B rooted to enjoy all the fixes to the phone. No point of waiting any longer without any updates.