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I have been messing around with the LCD density settings on a few ICS ROMs for a little while now and after a lot of trial and error, I thought i'd share my experiences. I did some digging and I didn't see a formal write-up on this for our phones so I thought I'd give this a shot. (if anyone feels this has common knowledge and unnecessary, please just let me know and i will delete. also, I never tried this back on GB)
General Info for Beginners:
As you may already know, the standard resolution for our screens is 800 x 480 pixels. This is far below that of HD or even qHD screens. What this means in terms of real world use is that icons and text appear very large. Given our devices have a large 4.5 inch screen, it is arguable that this is not taking full advantage of all the extra screen real estate. While you cannot change the native resolution of a screen, you can do a simple build.prop tweak that can "trick" your phone into thinking that the resolution is much higher via a few simple programs.
How-To Change the Density Setting:
There are multiple programs out there for this purpose but I have found the best results with "ROM Toolbox". Feel free to buy the full version to support the dev but if all you are looking to do is change the density setting, the lite version will do just fine.
1. download and install "ROM Toolbox" from the Google Play Store
2. go to the "Performance" tab
3. click "build.prop tweaks"
4. change the "LCD Density" slider to whatever DPI you like
5. reboot
As mentioned, there are multiple programs out there but from my experience, DO NOT USE "LCD DENSITY MODDER" from the play store. This seems to soft-brick our phones as well as other GSII variants based on other reviews I've read and there does not seem to be a resolution at this time. This caused issues for me on TW-based and AOSP ROMS. It's a shame too, it seems perfect for this task, especially considering it can install a hacked Play Store (more on that later)
To see a more detailed thread on LCD Density Modder, go here (thanks kobridge!): http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1570893
What Setting to Choose:
This is matter of personal opinion, but I personally like 190 dpi (stock setting is 240). Many people swear by using 160 dpi but personally the icons and text are too small for my poor eyesight. I suggest starting from about 200 or so and working your way down. Remember, the lower the number, the smaller your icons/text will appear but will also give you more screen real estate
You may also notice that text and icons appear less sharp when messing with these settings. Keep in mind that because you are not truly changing your screen resolution, the translation will not be perfect. Personally, given the natural sharpness of AMOLED screens, i think most people while not be bothered by this or even notice
Some users like elliwigy have reported FC issues when going below 190 DPI. If you want to go lower than this, I suggest you search for the thread that has a modded phone.apk that can help with this issue
Potential Issues and Workarounds:
You will inevitably run into some compatibility issues so here are few final thoughts
Which ROM to use?
TouchWiz-based Roms: All roms based on stock Samsung TW for the E4GT were written with only the native resolution in mind. This means that certain apps will not scale well with a higher resolution and two particular ones come to mind:
- The Phone Dialer: The dialer looks like small box that fills up only a portion of the screen. To resolve, use an aftermarket dialer app like "exDialer" from the play store (thanks tenazrael!)
- TW E-mail App: The TW e-mail app (not gmail) also doesn't scale well. Instead, delete and install the AOSP e-mail apk.
AOSP ROMs: CM9 and AOKP handle the conversion a bit better. You won't run into the dialer or e-mail issue like with TW ROMs but there are still some bugs.
- Certain pictures of contacts may show up as way too zoomed in, i.e. messaging notification pictures or the favorites tab (thanks locoboi187!)
- Other aspects of the OS may become hard to read when scaled down so much, i.e. lock screen add-on buttons (thanks phpracing!)
The Play Store Doesn't Show All Apps? - This is the biggest pain in the a$$ when you mess with the lcd density settings. There is a bug in the play store that prevents you from seeing certain apps when you change the settings away from default.
I have seen a few "hacked" versions of the vending.apk out there that makes the play store think you are always set to 240 but for some reason, this only works for a little while.
Here are the steps to get the market working again:
1. Change LCD Density back to stock (240)
2. Reboot to take effect
3. Clear the data for the Google Play Store AND Google Services Framework
4. Open the Play Store app and you should see everything again
5. Change LCD density back to whatever you like.
6. Reboot
I know this is a bit cumbersome but it's the best solution for now. I haven't quite nailed down what triggers the market to "break" but hopefully you won't have to do this fix too often. In opinion, this annoyance is worth it.
To see a more detailed thread on this topic, go here (thanks kobridge!): http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1529227
Everything Looks Too "Stretched Out"? - Having an aftermarket launcher will help with this tremendously. I personally use Apex Launcher and there are some settings you can change to make the proportions look better
1. Homescreen Settings: Change the Vertical and Horizontal margins to medium or large
2. Dock Settings: Same as above.
You may also want to mess with different grid configurations now that you have extra room but i prefer to leave mine at the default 4 x 4
And that's it. I hope this will help you out so that you won't have to go through all the trial and error I did. I promise you, after you do this, it will be impossible for you to go back to the stock resolution (everything looks HUGE)
... and for those who care, here are some screen shots and the stock e-mail app
I've found 190-200 to be the sweet spot for me no matter which rom I use. It's nice, but isn't as nice as native 720p.
Tis a pity pentile was chosen for the GN over samoled+ makes it so one must choose between awesome colors or sweet, tight rez.
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Tis a pity pentile was chosen for the GN over samoled+ makes it so one must choose between awesome colors or sweet, tight rez.
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Amen
For those people who are interested - I am currently using LCD Resolution app from the Market store to keep my phone at 200. Anything less bothers me in some way or another.
In regards to the Dialer/Contacts being off center, I use an app called exDialer + exDialer ICS theme which scales perfectly. I then use an app called Holo Launcher which I believe beats Zeam, Go, and Launcher Pro hands down! This also scales perfectly. Finally, I am running the latest Blazer ROM on GB EL29.
The Market bug is very annoying, but I'm continually doing research on how to get past it.
tenazrael said:
For those people who are interested - I am currently using LCD Resolution app from the Market store to keep my phone at 200. Anything less bothers me in some way or another.
In regards to the Dialer/Contacts being off center, I use an app called exDialer + exDialer ICS theme which scales perfectly. I then use an app called Holo Launcher which I believe beats Zeam, Go, and Launcher Pro hands down! This also scales perfectly. Finally, I am running the latest Blazer ROM on GB EL29.
The Market bug is very annoying, but I'm continually doing research on how to get past it.
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Thank you for the dialer tip! I will update OP with this info. This is very useful knowledge. I started using AOSP roms to avoid annoying dialer bug so this may lead me to rethink what ROM i use and go back to TW based
At any lower dpi the messaging notification picture icon looks zoomed on CM9. I tried 160, 180, 195, 200
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im running cm9 a4 and this worked for me no problems. everything works the contacts and the dialer. not off center to me. i havent really messed around with the store yet but seemed good to me. the only thing i saw that was a little out of place and i dont think it is the tweak is the favorites icons. i use the favorites alot seeing as i only really call the same 6-7 people. does the contact/dialer app fix this?
phpracing said:
im running cm9 a4 and this worked for me no problems. everything works the contacts and the dialer. not off center to me. i havent really messed around with the store yet but seemed good to me. the only thing i saw that was a little out of place and i dont think it is the tweak is the favorites icons. i use the favorites alot seeing as i only really call the same 6-7 people. does the contact/dialer app fix this?
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i guarantee you that you'll see my problem listed above. Reproduceable.
Thanks for re-editing.
LCD Modder issue -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1570893
Market download -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1529227
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... and for those who care, here are some screen shots and the stock e-mail app
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Is that a galaxy nexus or did you just change the dpi.
Also with the changes. The lock screen add on buttons (top, right, and left options) are very tiny. I didn't even notice them until I took a good look at it. Again don't think this is a problem, just a product of the modification.
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My experience on any rom is phone fc's on any setting below 190 without modded phone.apk.. havent had any issues with market or anything when set to 190 in rom toolbox on any rom.. also if interested in native lcd changing support paranoid android is awesome! Not only does it have tablet mode it also has hybrid mode where you can change global density and even density per app while in hybrid mode
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thanks for the feedback everyone. again, i will update OP with the info
kobridge - thanks for the links to your posts. i didn't see these but will link in the OP for those who want more info.
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Is that a galaxy nexus or did you just change the dpi.
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just changed the DPI (don't own the GN, only E4GT). At the time of the screen shots, i was running CM9a5 with apex launcher set at 190 DPI
I didn't feel like reading the previous post but here's how to fix play store dpi issue. Steps 1 & 2 can be done in either order. Doesn't matter. Just be sure to change dpi before market updates
1) set your dpi
2) uninstall all data and updates to market.
3) reboot phone let play store update.
4) where did my dpi compatability issue go?
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Shoulon said:
I didn't feel like reading the previous post but here's how to fix play store dpi issue. Steps 1 & 2 can be done in either order. Doesn't matter. Just be sure to change dpi before market updates
1) set your dpi
2) uninstall all data and updates to market.
3) reboot phone let play store update.
4) where did my dpi compatability issue go?
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I've tried both OP's solution and your solution, but neither is working, guess I'm one of the unlucky ones. It'll be a pain, but whenever I need to download something from the Play Store, I'll have to sit with 240 dpi for a bit, haha.
lucentflame said:
I've tried both OP's solution and your solution, but neither is working, guess I'm one of the unlucky ones. It'll be a pain, but whenever I need to download something from the Play Store, I'll have to sit with 240 dpi for a bit, haha.
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What ROM you using?
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lucentflame said:
I've tried both OP's solution and your solution, but neither is working, guess I'm one of the unlucky ones. It'll be a pain, but whenever I need to download something from the Play Store, I'll have to sit with 240 dpi for a bit, haha.
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That's odd. I forgot to mention u gotta wipe Google frameworks also. But its how I fix my issue. It works on cm9 and blazer 4.1
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That's odd. I forgot to mention u gotta wipe Google frameworks also. But its how I fix my issue. It works on cm9 and blazer 4.1
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Yes, the "trick" doesn't work for me either until i wipe google services framework.
On a side note, wipe the google services framework FIRST, then the play store. If you do the GSF last, you sometimes get a weird "server error" when you open up the play store
Hello and sorry for maybe asking again the following question:
- If I want a higher resolution on my Note2... what should I do? Is it simple and safe? (this is the only thing I am really missing of my old Note)
- At which dpi should I stay in order not to corrupt built-in features?
In a few words... is it still an advisable operation, as it was for the old model?
Thank you for any hint!
Tito
You cant just increase the screen resolution... its a hardware not software thing.
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I know, but previously I used the LCD Resolution app to just change the display resolution (or dimensions of characters) from 320 to 240... and everything looked wonderful, with much more space to be used on the screen.
If it is just the big Icons you don't like, just install an other Launcher. I use NovaLauncher Prime. 6x6 Icon-Matrix. Alot of space
and still good readability. Dont know why Samsung is using that ****ed up 4 Column Layout. Lot's of wasted space from my point
of view.
They show 5 Columns in the AppDrawer thou.
By the way changing the dpi-value always drains the image-quality i think.
As well some dpi-tweaks lead to not working Apps on other devices i had, such as the HP Touchpad
Thank you, I already have Nova and changed the matrix... but what I do not like is the dimensions of characters: at 240dpi I can read extended internet pages, have more sms or the entire email on the screen with reduced need of scrolling... the device looks "more professional" and useful!
Hm okay, i agree on that. But i don't currently know about an dpi-changer for our GN2. I'll follow this thread and see how this evolves.
oh boy was it that hard to understand the op podface? -.-
anyway as for what you want:
there is a rom with touchwiz modified to 240dpi or you can either use of the paranoid roms which are highly customizable on that aspect or just use plain cm10 and there you also can use the lcd density mod app.
that means... I have to root, change the ROM, lose automatic official updates... and above all re-enter in the tremendous slavery of changing ROM every day, testing, trying all the ROMs expecting miracles... this is what really scares me! (but I enjoyed that so much on my Note some months ago!)
yup there is no way as far as i know, to change the density without root
I discovered today that the note 2's dpi is set to 320, this is shocking given how big the screen is.
This dpi is similar to phones like the galaxy nexus, galaxy s3 and one x, so technically we are getting as much usability as phones with screens smaller then .7inch smaller then owers.
I changed the DPI to 240 and I instantly found a huge difference, no loss in overall sharpness, more icons fit in the screen, apps showed more detail, and the phone felt like a phablet rather then a phone for the first time.
Anyways for now I'm using nova launcher(for a costimizable homescreen/drawer) and alternates to all the samsung apps because they are not compatible with a lower DPI. Has anyone played around with their DPI? which DPI was the best for the phone?
For those who didn't try it yet, I highly recommend you to try it out if you know what you're doing.
You may find this handy - Samsung apps resized for 240 DPI:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2001577
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onslaught86 said:
You may find this handy - Samsung apps resized for 240 DPI:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2001577
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I did check that out, but they're all older versions of the apps i have (4.1.2 final)
Keep in mind that it does screw with the Play store. Certain apps may not be available.
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240 is too small in my opinion. Most of the apps work without any problem on 280, and for me it's the highest visible density for me. Btw on 240 there problems with fluency.
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Keep in mind that it does screw with the Play store. Certain apps may not be available.
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I cleared the play store's data a cache, it turned into tablet mode which was pretty sweet. I could've kept it as is from stock dpi and I would've been able to get the normal phone mode apps.
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240 is too small in my opinion. Most of the apps work without any problem on 280, and for me it's the highest visible density for me. Btw on 240 there problems with fluency.
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Samsung apps seem a bit laggy at 240 dpi, but I solved that by using alternatives to most of them, nova launcher looked pretty sweet. And as for the visibility, the screen is HUGE, like even at that tiny dpi icons are as big as they are on an S3 which is at 320 dpi, I'm gonna try 280 seems like a better choice for frequent usage.
I find it kind of stupid that they kept the dpi at 320, a lot of wasted screen space
Shame S Note crashes even at 280 dpi... especially as there is not an alternative that links in so well with the S Pen with pop up windows.
edit: Unbelievable, I set it back to 320 dpi, S Note is still crashing. Even after I wiped it's data.
edit 2: Wow, re flashed my ROM, even did the wipe option, S Note STILL crashes.
edit: DW, was EE's CSC causing it lol.
I need to set more than 320DPI but TW based rom always got crash
RambJoe said:
Shame S Note crashes even at 280 dpi... especially as there is not an alternative that links in so well with the S Pen with pop up windows.
edit: Unbelievable, I set it back to 320 dpi, S Note is still crashing. Even after I wiped it's data.
edit 2: Wow, re flashed my ROM, even did the wipe option, S Note STILL crashes.
edit: DW, was EE's CSC causing it lol.
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Must be a rom issue then, been running hypernote for a very long time and I'm using 240 dpi.
No crashes here
Hey,
I recently bought the Nexus 7 v2.
There is something I'm not sure to understand. On the official website it says: 1920x1200
But if I go there http://www.whatismyscreenresolution.com/ then it says 600x912
I didn't install new rom.
Is that normal ?
Does the resolution change depending of the application ?
Thanks,
Dalf
ps: my brother has installed a rom on his nexus 7 and the resolution is: 800*1232
Pps sorry for double post
I got 1920×1104 from mine. Given that the soft keys take up some real estate, that sounds about right.
I got 1200 x 1920
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I think that website only measures the resolution of the browser window. I got 600x912 as well.
Just tried it in portrait and got 1200×1824. Again considering the soft keys, that sounds right...
PJ Clifford said:
Just tried it in portrait and got 1200×1824. Again considering the soft keys, that sounds right...
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I have expanded desktop with cm10.2
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1200x1920 on a custom rom
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Maybe just some sort of browser madness..
Opera & Chrome: 600x912
Firefox: 1200x1824
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The ACTUAL pixels counting bottom navigation bar and status bar is 1920x1200. Interesting how the website is giving different reports.
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<•••• 1200 x 1920 per AOSP Browser.
From Anandtech: "Brian was quick to point out that a major advantage of the Android platform is in its flexible resolution handling. The 1920 x 1200 panel presents itself as a 960 x 600 panel to web pages in Chrome, while other apps can use every last pixel for unique content (e.g. games)."
It is probably loading up a mobile page and the browser is telling the site 960x600.
I noticed this too on all devices. The browser reports half resolution. When I build Mobile web apps, I typically have to do 960x600 and it properly formats across most browsers I've tried. Is weird though but again I think the browsers are telling the site that it's max is half so a properly coded site will send over a customized layout more suited for tablets.
FF reports the correct dimensions of 1200×1824 or 1920×1104 depending on the orientation, and accounting for the nav buttons.
This is a pretty sad state when Google has to resort to such tricks as reporting half resolution to make up for extremely poor web developers. Anyone using pixel measurements for any web or app development clearly doesn't know what they are doing. This highlights this issue perfectly. Web browsers are aware of the actual DPI of the screen and will render pages accordingly, so long as the specifications use proper dynamic sizes. I really hate browsing some mobile sites on my Nexus 7. They are ridiculously huge to the point of being unusable!
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<•••• 1200 x 1920 per AOSP Browser.
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hackel said:
FF reports the correct dimensions of 1200×1824 or 1920×1104 depending on the orientation, and accounting for the nav buttons.
This is a pretty sad state when Google has to resort to such tricks as reporting half resolution to make up for extremely poor web developers. Anyone using pixel measurements for any web or app development clearly doesn't know what they are doing. This highlights this issue perfectly. Web browsers are aware of the actual DPI of the screen and will render pages accordingly, so long as the specifications use proper dynamic sizes. I really hate browsing some mobile sites on my Nexus 7. They are ridiculously huge to the point of being unusable!
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Web developing is all about pixel measurements. And its used for displaying various CSS profiles. Most CSS tablet mode themes are built around a 960 width. It isn't for poor web developers, it is for GOOD web developers that create a tablet CSS theme. A good developer will have various styles for mobile, tablet, full, and super wide.
If the browser reports 1200 or 1920 resolution width, it would throw it into full site mode. Chrome does this so it can default to the best mode designed for your device and giving you the option for full site options in the menu.
Specially developed tablet friendly sites usually use less advertisements and finger friendly controls.
This is smart on Googles behave.
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player911 said:
Web developing is all about pixel measurements. And its used for displaying various CSS profiles. Most CSS tablet mode themes are built around a 960 width. It isn't for poor web developers, it is for GOOD web developers that create a tablet CSS theme. A good developer will have various styles for mobile, tablet, full, and super wide.
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You could not be more wrong, this is the problem! You absolutely should not be making assumptions about a device based on it's screen resolution. Multiple CSS profiles is very good indeed, but they must be based on the physical dimensions of the screen. If it's 7-10", then tablet, 3-5" mobile, etc. These measurements are dependent on the screen DPI and have nothing to do with the physical pixel resolution, nor should they. Ever. This is all Microsoft's fault for building an OS and browser that rendered at 96 DPI regardless of the physical screen, and tricked generations of computer users into thinking higher resolution means smaller text/UI. Android's doing a great job at fixing that, but unfortunately many web developers are still way behind and need to catch up. Granted, I've been making this same argument for almost 10 years now. People just refuse to learn!
out-of-box, fully updated with chrome browser: 960x552 landscape. 600x912 portrait.
certainly doesnt look that low, so i'd say a chrome issue.
Received the GPE yesterday. Also have the Nexus 7.2, I can return either tablet.
The screen size of the GPE is an immense upgrade. My old eyes or whatever, but if a web page or magazine doesn't allow zoom I have to work to read on the 7. Nowhere near an issue on the GPE.
Everything else, though, is a definite downgrade.
Before I decide which tab to keep, are there are apps/tweaks for the GPE that might improve a couple of things:
display: Whites are "dingy" with a yellowish cast. I have screen adjuster installed. Adding blue helps. But it only allows for adding color. Is there an app that has the color slide set in the middle as opposed to at the zero point so I can subtract as well as intensify one of the colors??
Also, it's pretty dim. Is there a way change the sensitivity of the auto brightness, ie so that at a given ambient light it sets the screen brighter than stock?
scrolling: It is a little more "ratchety". Odd, since it's the 600 v 400 processor in the 7. I have 4.4.2 installed. Would rooting help even if I don't use a custom ROM (the 7 is rooted but running stock)?
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Received the GPE yesterday. Also have the Nexus 7.2, I can return either tablet.
The screen size of the GPE is an immense upgrade. My old eyes or whatever, but if a web page or magazine doesn't allow zoom I have to work to read on the 7. Nowhere near an issue on the GPE.
Everything else, though, is a definite downgrade.
Before I decide which tab to keep, are there are apps/tweaks for the GPE that might improve a couple of things:
display: Whites are "dingy" with a yellowish cast. I have screen adjuster installed. Adding blue helps. But it only allows for adding color. Is there an app that has the color slide set in the middle as opposed to at the zero point so I can subtract as well as intensify one of the colors??
Also, it's pretty dim. Is there a way change the sensitivity of the auto brightness, ie so that at a given ambient light it sets the screen brighter than stock?
scrolling: It is a little more "ratchety". Odd, since it's the 600 v 400 processor in the 7. I have 4.4.2 installed. Would rooting help even if I don't use a custom ROM (the 7 is rooted but running stock)?
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1. The display is what it is. I have been waiting for a higher resolution 8 inch tablet for over two years. This is the first and probably will be by itsself for a long time, others would have been released by now for the holiday season. This is not to excuse LG for skimping out on the display, they make the retina displays for MacBook Pros and iPads for goodness sake. However, I am going to keep it over my Nexus 7 2013 because the size of the display is worth the drawbacks for me.
2. I assume you mean scrolling in Chrome. Beats me why it is always jerky, has been for years. Good news is that the AOSP browser is now in Google Play without needing root. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=me.android.browser
Install it and you will have a much smoother experience.
gmermel said:
Received the GPE yesterday. Also have the Nexus 7.2, I can return either tablet.
. . . .
Also, it's pretty dim. Is there a way change the sensitivity of the auto brightness, ie so that at a given ambient light it sets the screen brighter than stock?
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You can try Lux Auto Brightness or a similar app.
The auto-brightness on LG devices seems to work differently than on other Android devices. The brightness slider still has an effect when auto-brightness is checked. I don't know whether the value chosen with the slide acts a a max level or if it provides some kind of "base" for the auto-brightness algorithm to work from. But if the slider level is set low turning on auto-brightness won't make the screen as bright as it will be with the slider at a higher value and auto-brightness on.
Trickster is great if you have root
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gmermel said:
Received the GPE yesterday. Also have the Nexus 7.2, I can return either tablet.
The screen size of the GPE is an immense upgrade. My old eyes or whatever, but if a web page or magazine doesn't allow zoom I have to work to read on the 7. Nowhere near an issue on the GPE.
Everything else, though, is a definite downgrade.
Before I decide which tab to keep, are there are apps/tweaks for the GPE that might improve a couple of things:
display: Whites are "dingy" with a yellowish cast. I have screen adjuster installed. Adding blue helps. But it only allows for adding color. Is there an app that has the color slide set in the middle as opposed to at the zero point so I can subtract as well as intensify one of the colors??
Also, it's pretty dim. Is there a way change the sensitivity of the auto brightness, ie so that at a given ambient light it sets the screen brighter than stock?
scrolling: It is a little more "ratchety". Odd, since it's the 600 v 400 processor in the 7. I have 4.4.2 installed. Would rooting help even if I don't use a custom ROM (the 7 is rooted but running stock)?
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Pretty sure these things have been discussed numerous times, in fact there are threads/reviews discussing them. Some within a few clicks of this post.
jmill75 said:
Pretty sure these things have been discussed numerous times, in fact there are threads/reviews discussing them. Some within a few clicks of this post.
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I have been searching before posting. I will try to be more diligent....
You could level the playing field with regards to the 8.3 's performance and put kit kat on it too.
There are some kinks that need ironing out but it's plenty stable to be used as my daily.
As to the colours. I haven't been affected on my tablet. I guess having only a 2012 N7 as a comparison is much more forgiving than against the 2013 N7
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I love the LG G Pad GPE myself, but I had to return the first one I received. A yellow/orange line would appear on the side of the screen nearest the front-facing camera after 30 minutes of use. Here are a couple of images: http://imgur.com/a/3oDx0. A replacement will be delivered today. Hopefully I have more luck!
gmermel said:
Received the GPE yesterday. Also have the Nexus 7.2, I can return either tablet.
The screen size of the GPE is an immense upgrade. My old eyes or whatever, but if a web page or magazine doesn't allow zoom I have to work to read on the 7. Nowhere near an issue on the GPE.
Everything else, though, is a definite downgrade.
Before I decide which tab to keep, are there are apps/tweaks for the GPE that might improve a couple of things:
display: Whites are "dingy" with a yellowish cast. I have screen adjuster installed. Adding blue helps. But it only allows for adding color. Is there an app that has the color slide set in the middle as opposed to at the zero point so I can subtract as well as intensify one of the colors??
Also, it's pretty dim. Is there a way change the sensitivity of the auto brightness, ie so that at a given ambient light it sets the screen brighter than stock?
scrolling: It is a little more "ratchety". Odd, since it's the 600 v 400 processor in the 7. I have 4.4.2 installed. Would rooting help even if I don't use a custom ROM (the 7 is rooted but running stock)?
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My display is pretty good. the auto-brightness is too dark but it is on every device I've ever used, so that's not really an issue for me.
Scrolling is as good or better than any Nexus 7 2013 model I've seen. I think the Ars and Verge reviews said basically the same thing. Also, the Nexus 7 is not a snapdragon 400. It's an S4 Pro. The specific S4 Pro in the Nexus 7 is a 1.5 ghz quad core krait 300 with a ddr3 memory controller instead of being a 1.7 ghz quad core krait 300 with a dual channel ddr2 memory controller in the Snapdragon 600 in the G pad. The difference is completely negligible.
marvin02 said:
You can try Lux Auto Brightness or a similar app.
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Good app. Just what I was looking for,,,,,
gmermel said:
My old eyes or whatever, but if a web page or magazine doesn't allow zoom I have to work to read on the 7.
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This is not a useless iOS device, you can zoom any site you want, in Chrome and in the G Pad's stock browser: Settings-->Accessibility-->Enable force zoom on any site (more or less, translating from the Italian).
Most other browsers have a similar setting.
xdapao3 said:
This is not a useless iOS device, you can zoom any site you want, in Chrome and in the G Pad's stock browser: Settings-->Accessibility-->Enable force zoom on any site (more or less, translating from the Italian).
Most other browsers have a similar setting.
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Hey, I WAS an apple fanboy. Since 1994. Couildn't wait for the iphone to get to my city. Ran right over and "up"graded. Having worked with Android for a couple of years by then it was obvious in a day and a half how awful the interface was. My new droid was in hand immediately and I have recruited iOS'ers since. Do you know most are not aware of the "direct call" widget we have that they don't? That's just the most obvious and ridiculous demonstration of where iOS has gone with their Gates'ian control of their ecosystem.
That said, thanks for the pointer. My difficulty is with google Newsstand. The magazines I read don't allow zoom.
But the LG is on its way back. And I am very happy with my choice.....
gmermel said:
That said, thanks for the pointer. My difficulty is with google Newsstand.
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You're welcome and if you mean Google Play Magazine then if none of the 3 choices of font sizes are good for you the solution is Xposed + App Settings (so you can change the DPI for that app only).
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You're welcome and if you mean Google Play Magazine then if none of the 3 choices of font sizes are good for you the solution is Xposed + App Settings (so you can change the DPI for that app only).
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I'll give it a try..... It may be the magazines themselves, because when I adjust the Newsstand font size nothing happens to them. There's also a general setting for font size. That didn't help either.
My Nexus is running Kit Kat (as was the G pad GPE). They've replaced Play Magazine with Newsstand........
gmermel said:
Received the GPE yesterday. Also have the Nexus 7.2, I can return either tablet.
The screen size of the GPE is an immense upgrade. My old eyes or whatever, but if a web page or magazine doesn't allow zoom I have to work to read on the 7. Nowhere near an issue on the GPE.
Everything else, though, is a definite downgrade.
Before I decide which tab to keep, are there are apps/tweaks for the GPE that might improve a couple of things:
display: Whites are "dingy" with a yellowish cast. I have screen adjuster installed. Adding blue helps. But it only allows for adding color. Is there an app that has the color slide set in the middle as opposed to at the zero point so I can subtract as well as intensify one of the colors??
Also, it's pretty dim. Is there a way change the sensitivity of the auto brightness, ie so that at a given ambient light it sets the screen brighter than stock?
scrolling: It is a little more "ratchety". Odd, since it's the 600 v 400 processor in the 7. I have 4.4.2 installed. Would rooting help even if I don't use a custom ROM (the 7 is rooted but running stock)?
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The nexus 7 has the snapdragon 600 too just down clocked to 1.5ghz so they advertise it as the s4 pro
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xdapao3 said:
You're welcome and if you mean Google Play Magazine then if none of the 3 choices of font sizes are good for you the solution is Xposed + App Settings (so you can change the DPI for that app only).
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I can't locate xposed in the play store......
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I can't locate xposed in the play store......
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its not on the play store, google xposed
gmermel said:
display: Whites are "dingy" with a yellowish cast. I have screen adjuster installed. Adding blue helps. But it only allows for adding color. Is there an app that has the color slide set in the middle as opposed to at the zero point so I can subtract as well as intensify one of the colors??
Also, it's pretty dim. Is there a way change the sensitivity of the auto brightness, ie so that at a given ambient light it sets the screen brighter than stock?
scrolling: It is a little more "ratchety". Odd, since it's the 600 v 400 processor in the 7. I have 4.4.2 installed. Would rooting help even if I don't use a custom ROM (the 7 is rooted but running stock)?
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Screen dimness compared to the N7 is a complaint of mine as well. Wish it was brighter throughout the range.
Also rooting in and of itself will do nothing to affect device performance and speed, it simply opens the door to allow to do software mods in the future that may improve speed. 1
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Can someone report if the IR blaster on the GPE 8.3 works? I'm on the fence of buying it but I still can't seem to find an answer
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Demorthus said:
Can someone report if the IR blaster on the GPE 8.3 works? I'm on the fence of buying it but I still can't seem to find an answer
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It's not very useful on the regular G Pad, because it only supports a very small number of devices. I don't think it works at all on the GPE version, so far. If the IR capability is your main reason for buying the G Pad, better get another tablet. Or else get a Harmony Remote.