[Q] lost in resolution - Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A

Hey,
I recently bought the Nexus 7 v2.
There is something I'm not sure to understand. On the official website it says: 1920x1200
But if I go there http://www.whatismyscreenresolution.com/ then it says 600x912
I didn't install new rom.
Is that normal ?
Does the resolution change depending of the application ?
Thanks,
Dalf
ps: my brother has installed a rom on his nexus 7 and the resolution is: 800*1232
Pps sorry for double post

I got 1920×1104 from mine. Given that the soft keys take up some real estate, that sounds about right.

I got 1200 x 1920
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I think that website only measures the resolution of the browser window. I got 600x912 as well.

Just tried it in portrait and got 1200×1824. Again considering the soft keys, that sounds right...

PJ Clifford said:
Just tried it in portrait and got 1200×1824. Again considering the soft keys, that sounds right...
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I have expanded desktop with cm10.2
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1200x1920 on a custom rom
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Maybe just some sort of browser madness..
Opera & Chrome: 600x912
Firefox: 1200x1824
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The ACTUAL pixels counting bottom navigation bar and status bar is 1920x1200. Interesting how the website is giving different reports.
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<•••• 1200 x 1920 per AOSP Browser.

From Anandtech: "Brian was quick to point out that a major advantage of the Android platform is in its flexible resolution handling. The 1920 x 1200 panel presents itself as a 960 x 600 panel to web pages in Chrome, while other apps can use every last pixel for unique content (e.g. games)."

It is probably loading up a mobile page and the browser is telling the site 960x600.
I noticed this too on all devices. The browser reports half resolution. When I build Mobile web apps, I typically have to do 960x600 and it properly formats across most browsers I've tried. Is weird though but again I think the browsers are telling the site that it's max is half so a properly coded site will send over a customized layout more suited for tablets.

FF reports the correct dimensions of 1200×1824 or 1920×1104 depending on the orientation, and accounting for the nav buttons.
This is a pretty sad state when Google has to resort to such tricks as reporting half resolution to make up for extremely poor web developers. Anyone using pixel measurements for any web or app development clearly doesn't know what they are doing. This highlights this issue perfectly. Web browsers are aware of the actual DPI of the screen and will render pages accordingly, so long as the specifications use proper dynamic sizes. I really hate browsing some mobile sites on my Nexus 7. They are ridiculously huge to the point of being unusable!

Itchiee said:
<•••• 1200 x 1920 per AOSP Browser.
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hackel said:
FF reports the correct dimensions of 1200×1824 or 1920×1104 depending on the orientation, and accounting for the nav buttons.
This is a pretty sad state when Google has to resort to such tricks as reporting half resolution to make up for extremely poor web developers. Anyone using pixel measurements for any web or app development clearly doesn't know what they are doing. This highlights this issue perfectly. Web browsers are aware of the actual DPI of the screen and will render pages accordingly, so long as the specifications use proper dynamic sizes. I really hate browsing some mobile sites on my Nexus 7. They are ridiculously huge to the point of being unusable!
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Web developing is all about pixel measurements. And its used for displaying various CSS profiles. Most CSS tablet mode themes are built around a 960 width. It isn't for poor web developers, it is for GOOD web developers that create a tablet CSS theme. A good developer will have various styles for mobile, tablet, full, and super wide.
If the browser reports 1200 or 1920 resolution width, it would throw it into full site mode. Chrome does this so it can default to the best mode designed for your device and giving you the option for full site options in the menu.
Specially developed tablet friendly sites usually use less advertisements and finger friendly controls.
This is smart on Googles behave.
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player911 said:
Web developing is all about pixel measurements. And its used for displaying various CSS profiles. Most CSS tablet mode themes are built around a 960 width. It isn't for poor web developers, it is for GOOD web developers that create a tablet CSS theme. A good developer will have various styles for mobile, tablet, full, and super wide.
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You could not be more wrong, this is the problem! You absolutely should not be making assumptions about a device based on it's screen resolution. Multiple CSS profiles is very good indeed, but they must be based on the physical dimensions of the screen. If it's 7-10", then tablet, 3-5" mobile, etc. These measurements are dependent on the screen DPI and have nothing to do with the physical pixel resolution, nor should they. Ever. This is all Microsoft's fault for building an OS and browser that rendered at 96 DPI regardless of the physical screen, and tricked generations of computer users into thinking higher resolution means smaller text/UI. Android's doing a great job at fixing that, but unfortunately many web developers are still way behind and need to catch up. Granted, I've been making this same argument for almost 10 years now. People just refuse to learn!

out-of-box, fully updated with chrome browser: 960x552 landscape. 600x912 portrait.
certainly doesnt look that low, so i'd say a chrome issue.

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Stock browser quality on images

Hi,
Anyone notice that the Android stock browser produce bad image quality when zoomed in images?
Is it possible to change the quality of showing images? I can imagine that I might need to lower the quality on 3G, but on WiFi I want quite high.
Before I got this phone, I was thinking that its 3.7" screen will be superb on viewing images on the web ... Think sites like *you-know*
Unfortunately it is not.
Opera Mini has options to choose image quality but unfortunately you cant zoom in that much.
Things like what? I'm not sure I know what you're talking about...
No, the 3D gallery that you download manually does not support full colour images - however I believe the one off the market might when available
this has been discussed at length already. do search before posting.
data is compressed when browsing and results in degradation of jpg images.
this should not happen on WiFi and doesn't on my desire. depends how far you are zooming in I suppose.
anoyingly you see this effect if using the phone as a modem and viewing websites on your pc too.
if you are seeing this effect when connected to WiFi it is a different issue though. can you try to describe what it is about the images that is not right.
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I think I remember that thread, but that was a discussion about viewing "YouTube" using YouTube player app.
Are you saying that the stock web browser does this as well? I guess so ...
@marksyzm: Try http://www.playboy.com ... then zoom in to one of the pictures. It is kinda blurry ...
At some websites, images are even worse on quality.
And I am using WiFi at full speed.
I wish there is an option to set the image quality like in the Opera Mini.
PS: Anyone has an iPhone? Is this also happening on the Safari browser?
farnsbarns said:
this has been discussed at length already. do search before posting.
data is compressed when browsing and results in degradation of jpg images.
this should not happen on WiFi and doesn't on my desire. depends how far you are zooming in I suppose.
anoyingly you see this effect if using the phone as a modem and viewing websites on your pc too.
if you are seeing this effect when connected to WiFi it is a different issue though. can you try to describe what it is about the images that is not right.
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When I click your link it takes me to a WAP enabled version of the site, and the pictures there are blurry. But at the bottom there's a link to the full site and there the pictures look fine. You can set your phone to always use the full version of websites in the browser settings
Porn on your mobile... jeez.
Lol...
Try full web version of Facebook...
And see the profile photo at the top left.
Very blurry
Yes this has been discussed. Reload the webpage and you'll get hi Res images.
I've tried loading a webpage on 3G and then on wifi, no difference, although they only become blurry when zoomed a lot, so it doesn't bother me
I don't want to upset anyone but please search. we really are having the same conversations every other week.
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Posted before this in a weeks old thread about it with no resolve to date. Like checking xtremesystems.org forums right now with the latest screenshots of AMD Thuban posted... some display fine, most utter junk -- blocky, pixelated -- that I can't makeout any details from. Same with any online image through opera or the stock browser using a very good WiFi connection. refreshing/rebooting doesn't change squat, its been like this since late March.
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Not sure which page your looking at but everything on the frontpage of xtremesystems.org looks fine.
I`ve found if i`m browsing using mobile networks the initial page load the images are low quality, then a reload brings in the higher detailed version.
If i`m browsing on wifi I get the high detailed version straight away.
Ok just checked image quality on few different web pages over WiFi, picture is superb
So it only compresses images while you are on WiFi, which is good, but still I would like to see option for this
Pics in pages like this:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=4356645&postcount=891
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=4357206&postcount=898
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th3 said:
Pics in pages like this:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=4356645&postcount=891
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=4357206&postcount=898
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I have tested several XtremeSystems pages I can clearly see cpu-z and all frequencies on image on my Desire
Pics in pages like this:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=4356645&postcount=891
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N.1: as suggested above this has been discussed in other threads, but no one pointed to other threads, and I can't find a better thread than this.
N.2: as said above and I've just tested there is no difference with wifi on/off, stock/other browser, first load/reload.
But I can see a difference about those two images
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=891
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=898
the first thread shows fine, on my computer the same way as on my mobile.
The second has bigger images (800KB vs 100KB) and on my mobile they are indeed blurry and not-readable.
So does image size have an impact on quality ? And since it happens on any browser / network, does anybody have an idea where this happens on the download process ?
[EDIT] code.google issue 6021 link http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=6021

[Q] Any way to improve text sharpness of web browsing?

I'm finding the standard text size on a lot of non-mobile websites very difficult to read. After comparing to my iphone its just not sharp at all. I have to enlarge it to get it readable, and the double-tap-to-zoom feature just sucks. Pinch to zoom is a non-option for one-handed use.
I've tried increasing the text scaling option, and this does the trick when raised to 150%, but then all of the larger text on mobile websites or similar are ridiculously large and unusable. I've also tried raising the minimum font size, and in the little image of the font sizes this does the trick since it makes the "tiny" and "small" sizes much larger but doesn't affect the larger ones, however, this doesn't seem to actually do anything in practice.
I've tried using other browsers (Dolphin HD), but though they work, they're buggy and they don't really fix the problem I'm having anyway.
Anyone have any suggestions for better browsing? As it stands right now, I really prefer iphone browsing (not flaming here) just because 1. text is really sharp, and 2. double-tap-to-zoom is awesome and works perfectly. I thought with the much larger display, the Galaxy Nexus would be perfect for mobile browsing, but I'm finding that I have to zoom in no matter what to see what I want, so I'm not sure the res is really helping me.
Edit - Here's a thread talking about the problem with double tap zoom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1373398&highlight=tap+zoom
and
http://forums.androidcentral.com/verizon-galaxy-nexus/141437-browser-autozoom-issue.html
Why do you feel double tap zoom sucks?
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Why do you feel double tap zoom sucks?
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Because it's very hit or miss as to whether it zooms on what it's supposed to. Even a pretty well defined block of text is often cut off after I use it. Plus, it doesn't work at ALL without auto-fit pages enabled, and that just makes webpages look like crap.
if you are just trying to actually READ what's there, the reflow works very well. Haven't had any issues with it.
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You can also change the minimum font size in settings?
I just don't get this.
I got the nexus out and tested it on several websites, mobile and desktop versions. Everything displayed perfect, and was easy to read at an arms length away.
What really doesn't add up is the comparison to the iPhone. Both screen are high resolution with the Nexus having a better contrast ratio, and deeper blacks. Because they both are high resolution how would a screen almost half the size have larger font?
I'm not a big nexus guy or anything, it just doest add up to me, but I could be wrong.
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kangxi said:
if you are just trying to actually READ what's there, the reflow works very well. Haven't had any issues with it.
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Make no mistake - there IS no "reflow"...yet. Gingerbread reflows just fine, but ICS has yet to implement this feature (at least as of my official build). what they have is a feature called auto-fit pages. Basically this just puts all of the text into a column of sorts, and does NOT dynamically render the text correctly no matter what zoom state you're in. It's very much inferior to actual reflow, which I'm dying for.
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I just don't get this.
I got the nexus out and tested it on several websites, mobile and desktop versions. Everything displayed perfect, and was easy to read at an arms length away.
What really doesn't add up is the comparison to the iPhone. Both screen are high resolution with the Nexus having a better contrast ratio, and deeper blacks. Because they both are high resolution how would a screen almost half the size have larger font?
I'm not a big nexus guy or anything, it just doest add up to me, but I could be wrong.
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Look, I'm not hating, as I have and love my Galaxy Nexus, and I use it WAY more than my iphone (which I'm considering selling), but have you actually used the iphone 4S? (or 4 for that matter) The screen is amazing, and just as much so as the HD AMOLED in the GN... maybe more so, except the pitiful size. True, the contrast isn't "near infinite" like an AMOLED screen, but this is somewhat an academic number for bragging rights. After all, a very dark screen of infinitesimally above zero would have a much (infinitely, in fact) lower contrast than infinite. Regardless, it's about more than specs, and the text on the iphone is insanely sharp. I would have thought with the PPI on the GN being what it is (nearly parity with the iphone), it would be the same, but it's definitely not. I don't know if its the pentile, or what, but I'm just calling it like I see it.
Regardless, does any of this actually answer the question? Not to be an ass, but why would you come into my [Q] thread just to say - essentially - "this problem doesn't exist"?
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I'm finding the standard text size on a lot of non-mobile websites very difficult to read. After comparing to my iphone its just not sharp at all. I have to enlarge it to get it readable, and the double-tap-to-zoom feature just sucks. Pinch to zoom is a non-option for one-handed use.
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Anyone have any suggestions for better browsing? As it stands right now, I really prefer iphone browsing (not flaming here) just because 1. text is really sharp, and 2. double-tap-to-zoom is awesome and works perfectly. I thought with the much larger display, the Galaxy Nexus would be perfect for mobile browsing, but I'm finding that I have to zoom in no matter what to see what I want, so I'm not sure the res is really helping me.
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You are generally right that text/paragraph formatting looks ugly in ICS browser (and actually I made comparison a few weeks ago to show exactly this: http://imgur.com/B6Lx6) though it also has its advantages.
For instance go to hardocp.com and open some article on both iPhone and your GNex - the page will be barely readable on iPhone and will be just fine on GNex, thanks to that "ugly" column formatting thing.
Honestly I learned to live with that; it's just ugly on page overview, doesn't matter at all when you are actually reading the content.
Though, you also brought up another problem which is annoying the hell out of me: on many pages double tap shows bad paragraph/place. I double tap a text in some column, and it zooms & scrolls to a completely different piece of the page, forcing me to scroll back manually to the content I was interested in. Very annoying. I hope they will fix that bug soon. It's still not fixed in 4.0.3, as I tested it already.
macfre said:
You are generally right that text/paragraph formatting looks ugly in ICS browser (and actually I made comparison a few weeks ago to show exactly this: http://imgur.com/B6Lx6) though it also has its advantages.
For instance go to hardocp.com and open some article on both iPhone and your GNex - the page will be barely readable on iPhone and will be just fine on GNex, thanks to that "ugly" column formatting thing.
Honestly I learned to live with that; it's just ugly on page overview, doesn't matter at all when you are actually reading the content.
Though, you also brought up another problem which is annoying the hell out of me: on many pages double tap shows bad paragraph/place. I double tap a text in some column, and it zooms & scrolls to a completely different piece of the page, forcing me to scroll back manually to the content I was interested in. Very annoying. I hope they will fix that bug soon. It's still not fixed in 4.0.3, as I tested it already.
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The problem seems to be that for whatever reason they have decided (or its bugged) reflow the text as the page loads Instead of doing it dynamically on double tap ala pre ICS. Which makes the overview mode look like crap.
Considering ICS was supposed to be a giant leap forward in everything for Android including UI, and by doing this they have made web pages look ugly.
One of the best things about Android is the dynamic text reflow and i hope they bring it back or get rid of the bug that's stopping it from happening. I can't believe they would have sat round in a meeting and actively thought this would be a better solution.

A waste of a screen...?

I only have one complaint with my new Note 2, which is simply Samsung have not made the best use of the screen. I had foolishly hoped it would offer a more tablet-like experience, with more data on-screen in Apps, websites etc compared to smaller Android handsets with the same resolution.
Putting my Galaxy Nexus, Nexus 7 and my Note 2 side-by-side with the same Apps, the Note 2 offers pretty much the same on-screen data as the Galaxy and noticeably less than the Nexus 7, despite all having the same resolution. I guess there is some sort of PPI/size calculation going on, or a distinct 'tablet mode', I'm not an expert in Android development I must admit so this might be obvious stuff.
I just wish I could put the Note 2 into a 'tablet' mode whereby it showed more data, rather than just offering larger icons that take up more relative space.
If somebody manages to crack this and finds a way, root or otherwise, to make better use of the screen, I'll be a happy man.
Does anybody else share this view? Or am I alone...
Other than this, it's hard to fault the Note 2
There were a number of ROMs for the original Note that had the option to enable Tablet mode; homescreen and all with the tablet versions of the apps. I'm sure ROM's will eventually pop up for the Note 2
Thanks... that reply manages to answer my question (tablet mode!) and give me something to look forward to, all at the same time!
The difference is the dpi. You will be able to lower it down once you root.
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The difference is the dpi. You will be able to lower it down once you root.
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This does **** up your entire phone. Trust me. Ive tried.
Not many samsug apps that like the dpi change. Specially snote...
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This is the drawback of the 16:9 aspect ratio. The original Note gave one more column's worth of icons due to its 16:10 aspect ratio.
It's the height that bothers me, rather than the width. I read a lot of news, use social media, messaging and email a lot, so it's all list based. The width is fine, but the height leaves a lot of white space in lists. You can always rotate if width is a problem, but with height you're a bit stuck.
I agree, I do wish I could have 5 columns of icons on the home screen instead of four.. there's so much space thats wasted!
I don't see why they couldn't have made it 5 columns since the TouchWiz app drawer has 5 columns.
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This does **** up your entire phone. Trust me. Ive tried.
Not many samsug apps that like the dpi change. Specially snote...
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Samsung's apps tend to be fairly hard coded to the stock resolution, but many many others work just fine.
Your mileage may vary. Lots of people were happily using the Note at DPIs of 280 and 240 or even lower.
Paranoid android was absolutely fantastic in that you could select certain DPIS for certain apps.
I'm going to miss it.
As it stands now, some apps are just better about allowing you to select font sizes and etc.
Readers and web browsers in particular.
In settings -> accessibility there is a 'change the font size' option. Does it allow you to set something smaller?
It had a very limited functionality in the Note 1 - I was hoping it was improved a bit for the Note 2.
- Frank
Just wait for ParanoidAndroid, and then you could choose tablet mod, or stay on phone mod and enable tablet mod only for selected apps
Changing the font size to small in accessibility works for me... no as good as my 6800 but I would trade the screen estate for pocketability
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I use go launcher or adw launcher resize or have 6x5 rows of icons etc
It is MAINLY a phone....
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[Q] Disappointment w/GPE. Tips/pointers?

Received the GPE yesterday. Also have the Nexus 7.2, I can return either tablet.
The screen size of the GPE is an immense upgrade. My old eyes or whatever, but if a web page or magazine doesn't allow zoom I have to work to read on the 7. Nowhere near an issue on the GPE.
Everything else, though, is a definite downgrade.
Before I decide which tab to keep, are there are apps/tweaks for the GPE that might improve a couple of things:
display: Whites are "dingy" with a yellowish cast. I have screen adjuster installed. Adding blue helps. But it only allows for adding color. Is there an app that has the color slide set in the middle as opposed to at the zero point so I can subtract as well as intensify one of the colors??
Also, it's pretty dim. Is there a way change the sensitivity of the auto brightness, ie so that at a given ambient light it sets the screen brighter than stock?
scrolling: It is a little more "ratchety". Odd, since it's the 600 v 400 processor in the 7. I have 4.4.2 installed. Would rooting help even if I don't use a custom ROM (the 7 is rooted but running stock)?
gmermel said:
Received the GPE yesterday. Also have the Nexus 7.2, I can return either tablet.
The screen size of the GPE is an immense upgrade. My old eyes or whatever, but if a web page or magazine doesn't allow zoom I have to work to read on the 7. Nowhere near an issue on the GPE.
Everything else, though, is a definite downgrade.
Before I decide which tab to keep, are there are apps/tweaks for the GPE that might improve a couple of things:
display: Whites are "dingy" with a yellowish cast. I have screen adjuster installed. Adding blue helps. But it only allows for adding color. Is there an app that has the color slide set in the middle as opposed to at the zero point so I can subtract as well as intensify one of the colors??
Also, it's pretty dim. Is there a way change the sensitivity of the auto brightness, ie so that at a given ambient light it sets the screen brighter than stock?
scrolling: It is a little more "ratchety". Odd, since it's the 600 v 400 processor in the 7. I have 4.4.2 installed. Would rooting help even if I don't use a custom ROM (the 7 is rooted but running stock)?
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1. The display is what it is. I have been waiting for a higher resolution 8 inch tablet for over two years. This is the first and probably will be by itsself for a long time, others would have been released by now for the holiday season. This is not to excuse LG for skimping out on the display, they make the retina displays for MacBook Pros and iPads for goodness sake. However, I am going to keep it over my Nexus 7 2013 because the size of the display is worth the drawbacks for me.
2. I assume you mean scrolling in Chrome. Beats me why it is always jerky, has been for years. Good news is that the AOSP browser is now in Google Play without needing root. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=me.android.browser
Install it and you will have a much smoother experience.
gmermel said:
Received the GPE yesterday. Also have the Nexus 7.2, I can return either tablet.
. . . .
Also, it's pretty dim. Is there a way change the sensitivity of the auto brightness, ie so that at a given ambient light it sets the screen brighter than stock?
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You can try Lux Auto Brightness or a similar app.
The auto-brightness on LG devices seems to work differently than on other Android devices. The brightness slider still has an effect when auto-brightness is checked. I don't know whether the value chosen with the slide acts a a max level or if it provides some kind of "base" for the auto-brightness algorithm to work from. But if the slider level is set low turning on auto-brightness won't make the screen as bright as it will be with the slider at a higher value and auto-brightness on.
Trickster is great if you have root
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gmermel said:
Received the GPE yesterday. Also have the Nexus 7.2, I can return either tablet.
The screen size of the GPE is an immense upgrade. My old eyes or whatever, but if a web page or magazine doesn't allow zoom I have to work to read on the 7. Nowhere near an issue on the GPE.
Everything else, though, is a definite downgrade.
Before I decide which tab to keep, are there are apps/tweaks for the GPE that might improve a couple of things:
display: Whites are "dingy" with a yellowish cast. I have screen adjuster installed. Adding blue helps. But it only allows for adding color. Is there an app that has the color slide set in the middle as opposed to at the zero point so I can subtract as well as intensify one of the colors??
Also, it's pretty dim. Is there a way change the sensitivity of the auto brightness, ie so that at a given ambient light it sets the screen brighter than stock?
scrolling: It is a little more "ratchety". Odd, since it's the 600 v 400 processor in the 7. I have 4.4.2 installed. Would rooting help even if I don't use a custom ROM (the 7 is rooted but running stock)?
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Pretty sure these things have been discussed numerous times, in fact there are threads/reviews discussing them. Some within a few clicks of this post.
jmill75 said:
Pretty sure these things have been discussed numerous times, in fact there are threads/reviews discussing them. Some within a few clicks of this post.
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I have been searching before posting. I will try to be more diligent....
You could level the playing field with regards to the 8.3 's performance and put kit kat on it too.
There are some kinks that need ironing out but it's plenty stable to be used as my daily.
As to the colours. I haven't been affected on my tablet. I guess having only a 2012 N7 as a comparison is much more forgiving than against the 2013 N7
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I love the LG G Pad GPE myself, but I had to return the first one I received. A yellow/orange line would appear on the side of the screen nearest the front-facing camera after 30 minutes of use. Here are a couple of images: http://imgur.com/a/3oDx0. A replacement will be delivered today. Hopefully I have more luck!
gmermel said:
Received the GPE yesterday. Also have the Nexus 7.2, I can return either tablet.
The screen size of the GPE is an immense upgrade. My old eyes or whatever, but if a web page or magazine doesn't allow zoom I have to work to read on the 7. Nowhere near an issue on the GPE.
Everything else, though, is a definite downgrade.
Before I decide which tab to keep, are there are apps/tweaks for the GPE that might improve a couple of things:
display: Whites are "dingy" with a yellowish cast. I have screen adjuster installed. Adding blue helps. But it only allows for adding color. Is there an app that has the color slide set in the middle as opposed to at the zero point so I can subtract as well as intensify one of the colors??
Also, it's pretty dim. Is there a way change the sensitivity of the auto brightness, ie so that at a given ambient light it sets the screen brighter than stock?
scrolling: It is a little more "ratchety". Odd, since it's the 600 v 400 processor in the 7. I have 4.4.2 installed. Would rooting help even if I don't use a custom ROM (the 7 is rooted but running stock)?
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My display is pretty good. the auto-brightness is too dark but it is on every device I've ever used, so that's not really an issue for me.
Scrolling is as good or better than any Nexus 7 2013 model I've seen. I think the Ars and Verge reviews said basically the same thing. Also, the Nexus 7 is not a snapdragon 400. It's an S4 Pro. The specific S4 Pro in the Nexus 7 is a 1.5 ghz quad core krait 300 with a ddr3 memory controller instead of being a 1.7 ghz quad core krait 300 with a dual channel ddr2 memory controller in the Snapdragon 600 in the G pad. The difference is completely negligible.
marvin02 said:
You can try Lux Auto Brightness or a similar app.
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Good app. Just what I was looking for,,,,,
gmermel said:
My old eyes or whatever, but if a web page or magazine doesn't allow zoom I have to work to read on the 7.
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This is not a useless iOS device, you can zoom any site you want, in Chrome and in the G Pad's stock browser: Settings-->Accessibility-->Enable force zoom on any site (more or less, translating from the Italian).
Most other browsers have a similar setting.
xdapao3 said:
This is not a useless iOS device, you can zoom any site you want, in Chrome and in the G Pad's stock browser: Settings-->Accessibility-->Enable force zoom on any site (more or less, translating from the Italian).
Most other browsers have a similar setting.
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Hey, I WAS an apple fanboy. Since 1994. Couildn't wait for the iphone to get to my city. Ran right over and "up"graded. Having worked with Android for a couple of years by then it was obvious in a day and a half how awful the interface was. My new droid was in hand immediately and I have recruited iOS'ers since. Do you know most are not aware of the "direct call" widget we have that they don't? That's just the most obvious and ridiculous demonstration of where iOS has gone with their Gates'ian control of their ecosystem.
That said, thanks for the pointer. My difficulty is with google Newsstand. The magazines I read don't allow zoom.
But the LG is on its way back. And I am very happy with my choice.....
gmermel said:
That said, thanks for the pointer. My difficulty is with google Newsstand.
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You're welcome and if you mean Google Play Magazine then if none of the 3 choices of font sizes are good for you the solution is Xposed + App Settings (so you can change the DPI for that app only).
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You're welcome and if you mean Google Play Magazine then if none of the 3 choices of font sizes are good for you the solution is Xposed + App Settings (so you can change the DPI for that app only).
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I'll give it a try..... It may be the magazines themselves, because when I adjust the Newsstand font size nothing happens to them. There's also a general setting for font size. That didn't help either.
My Nexus is running Kit Kat (as was the G pad GPE). They've replaced Play Magazine with Newsstand........
gmermel said:
Received the GPE yesterday. Also have the Nexus 7.2, I can return either tablet.
The screen size of the GPE is an immense upgrade. My old eyes or whatever, but if a web page or magazine doesn't allow zoom I have to work to read on the 7. Nowhere near an issue on the GPE.
Everything else, though, is a definite downgrade.
Before I decide which tab to keep, are there are apps/tweaks for the GPE that might improve a couple of things:
display: Whites are "dingy" with a yellowish cast. I have screen adjuster installed. Adding blue helps. But it only allows for adding color. Is there an app that has the color slide set in the middle as opposed to at the zero point so I can subtract as well as intensify one of the colors??
Also, it's pretty dim. Is there a way change the sensitivity of the auto brightness, ie so that at a given ambient light it sets the screen brighter than stock?
scrolling: It is a little more "ratchety". Odd, since it's the 600 v 400 processor in the 7. I have 4.4.2 installed. Would rooting help even if I don't use a custom ROM (the 7 is rooted but running stock)?
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The nexus 7 has the snapdragon 600 too just down clocked to 1.5ghz so they advertise it as the s4 pro
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You're welcome and if you mean Google Play Magazine then if none of the 3 choices of font sizes are good for you the solution is Xposed + App Settings (so you can change the DPI for that app only).
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I can't locate xposed in the play store......
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I can't locate xposed in the play store......
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its not on the play store, google xposed
gmermel said:
display: Whites are "dingy" with a yellowish cast. I have screen adjuster installed. Adding blue helps. But it only allows for adding color. Is there an app that has the color slide set in the middle as opposed to at the zero point so I can subtract as well as intensify one of the colors??
Also, it's pretty dim. Is there a way change the sensitivity of the auto brightness, ie so that at a given ambient light it sets the screen brighter than stock?
scrolling: It is a little more "ratchety". Odd, since it's the 600 v 400 processor in the 7. I have 4.4.2 installed. Would rooting help even if I don't use a custom ROM (the 7 is rooted but running stock)?
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Screen dimness compared to the N7 is a complaint of mine as well. Wish it was brighter throughout the range.
Also rooting in and of itself will do nothing to affect device performance and speed, it simply opens the door to allow to do software mods in the future that may improve speed. 1
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Can someone report if the IR blaster on the GPE 8.3 works? I'm on the fence of buying it but I still can't seem to find an answer
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Demorthus said:
Can someone report if the IR blaster on the GPE 8.3 works? I'm on the fence of buying it but I still can't seem to find an answer
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It's not very useful on the regular G Pad, because it only supports a very small number of devices. I don't think it works at all on the GPE version, so far. If the IR capability is your main reason for buying the G Pad, better get another tablet. Or else get a Harmony Remote.

browsing resolution

hi all,
I just got my 8.4 and pretty happy about it especially the screen. I have two questions though.:
1. browsing resolution seems to be 1280x800. is there a way to change that? 2.5k would be far too much but there are online panels that desperately ask for more, like plesk for example.
2. since browsers decide to work on different resolution... how do we know when we really are at 2.5k when using our tablet.? ? -
cheers!
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1. browsing resolution seems to be 1280x800. is there a way to change that? 2.5k would be far too much but there are online panels that desperately ask for more, like plesk for example.
2. since browsers decide to work on different resolution... how do we know when we really are at 2.5k when using our tablet.? ? -
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Not sure why you would think that the resolution is only 1280x800, it should of course be 2560x1600 as that is the screen res.
And again not sure why you think browsers work at a different resolution, the screen and gpu are always displaying 2560x1600 pixels.
Have you perhaps changed the DPI setting?
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Not sure why you would think that the resolution is only 1280x800, it should of course be 2560x1600 as that is the screen res.
And again not sure why you think browsers work at a different resolution, the screen and gpu are always displaying 2560x1600 pixels.
Have you perhaps changed the DPI setting?
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thank you for your answer.
totally right about dpi here - which i didn't change cause i haven't rooted yet, but i think i will!!! - but the problem still stands.
my wrong assumption came after visiting whatismyscreenresolution.com
with firefox, chrome and stock i get 1280x800
after reading your post i made a little bit of search. Visiting whatismyscreenresolution.com with Dolphin browser i get 2560x1600....
so i give up with the resolution thinking
Pixel ratio then (which comes from dpi setting)
visiting devicepixelratio.com from any browser i get "2", so at least we have an agreement....
visiting http://bjango.com/articles/min-device-pixel-ratio/ from different browsers .... well i really don;t have the knowledge to understand all that
Still though i want more screen. Using the canvas of the above website (whatismyscreenresolution.com) at my desktop i can see that some websites width is compressed to 1000px and others to 1280px when visiting from my tab pro t320.
So the whole thing here is taking advantage of the huge resolution we get from the t320 and use it to see more things - even in favor of actual size.
is changing the dpi the solution here?
any other suggestions?
found a solution!!!!!!
needs root
install xpose framework
install "app settings" module from within xposed
app settings is an awesome module that gives you control PER APP (!!!) over the dpi, resolution and more.
so changing the dpi of Firefox to 240 gave me the extra space I wanted (default is 320)
in addition raising the dpi of an aftermarket launcher to 360 gives you the same big icons of stock...... "jizzwizz" but not the icon shadow unfortunately....
and so on
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