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I was checking out the S3 on different carriers, when I noticed that Bell has removed the S3 information page from their website, as well as making it not available for purchase. Any links pointing to the S3 on Bell are dead. I'm wondering if this could point towards an imminent launch of the Galaxy S3?
All phones are discontinued at some point during their blossom....
The Bell s3 is definitely discontinued according to two Bell stores I visited.
Isn't it kinda early for Bell to discontinue the S3? The S5 hasn't even been released, and Bell has sold older phones before. It doesn't seem like any other carriers are following suit.
The s3 has been around for a long time and Bell now has the 5" 1080p Alcatel quad-core Meaditek phone on voice-only for $49.95.
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The s3 has been around for a long time and Bell now has the 5" 1080p Alcatel quad-core Meaditek phone on voice-only for $49.95.
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I was thinking of getting that, but it's kinda a lesser known phone and I was worried about dev support for it.
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I was thinking of getting that, but it's kinda a lesser known phone and I was worried about dev support for it.
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I am hoping for better support well. Hopefully, that will happen as I am interested in the phone as s potential HUP.
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I am hoping for better support well. Hopefully, that will happen as I am interested in the phone as s potential HUP.
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It seems like a good phone too...maybe I'll pick one up in a couple of months.
Back on topic....
The S5 is going to be revealed at Feb.24, perhaps the S4 will drop in price to around the same price the S3 maintained in the past year.
I'd like to get one of these somehow to Europe and unlock it. Anybody happen to know where to get one shipped & how to unlock?
http://www.t-mobile.com/cell-phones/lg-optimus-f3q.html
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I'd like to get one of these somehow to Europe and unlock it. Anybody happen to know where to get one shipped & how to unlock?
http://www.t-mobile.com/cell-phones/lg-optimus-f3q.html
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I am also interested in this phone, but it seemed no one really cared about it. A seller called welectronics posted an open box video in youtube, you are able to buy from them at a premium, but I would wait for cheaper ones to float around on ebay. The 4G bands of this phone do not work in Europe but 3G do, and there are websites that sell the unlock code for the network lock.
il like this phone too and waitin an offer (Ihave T-Mobile MyTou Q Huawei u8730)
it's really too bad no one seems to care about this phone.
I wanted to get one but also want to see if anyone here can come up with rooting and flashing instruction for this phone first.
I really want to get a Kitkat rom on this phone.
(FYI, I am still using the T-Mobile G2 I love so much.)
I found a site which sells this unlocked and ships to Europe: http://www.canadagsm.ca/products-LG-Optimus-F3Q-Penta-Band-LTE. 2G and 3G will work; 4G not.
But as there is no alternative ROM available and apparently no way to root, it's impossible to remap the keyboard. Which is a must, at least up here in the Nordics.
Brilliant looking phone. I'm sure the qwerty sliders will make a comeback someday, stupid people just haven't figured out yet that Apple screwed them when they introduced the on-screen keyboard.
But how to get root? Hopefully somebody with skills would also buy this and do Cyanogenmod for it.
Could this be real: http://442kitkat.senuke.info/mp3-0/lg-optimus-f3q-5998.html
If there is a rooting guide and KitKat rom for this phone, I am going to buy one right the way.
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Could this be real: http://442kitkat.senuke.info/mp3-0/lg-optimus-f3q-5998.html
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Looks real but doesn't seem to have a rooting S-Off guide.
And the download links to the rom are broken.
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Looks real but doesn't seem to have a rooting S-Off guide.
And the download links to the rom are broken.
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Also no way I'm downloading from an obscure site a ROM to my phone, without a community which can validate that it does not include anything nasty.
I am wondering if Motochopper or RootMaster can root this phone or not.
I expect that after some sales somebody will create a forum for this phone. It's on T-Mobile where people are used to qwerty's and in their portfolio it replaces the Samsung Galaxy Relay, which has an active forum here.
I am also very interested in this phone.
Problem seems to be getting it out of the grasps of the usual "America is #1 and we don't want to know about any of the rest of you" phone companies...
...Does anyone know if the LG Enact shares the same case design as the F3Q? They both look very similar.
Not sure about Europe, but some South East Asian countries welcome qwerty keyboard phone. What is LG thinking? Can't sell a phone without carrier backing?
The LG Enact has identical spec as the F3Q, BUT it is a CDMA phone for Verizon so it is almost impossible to use outside the US, unless you are using a CDMA carrier and is able to unlock and register the phone.
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Not sure about Europe, but some South East Asian countries welcome qwerty keyboard phone. What is LG thinking? Can't sell a phone without carrier backing?
The LG Enact has identical spec as the F3Q, BUT it is a CDMA phone for Verizon so it is almost impossible to use outside the US, unless you are using a CDMA carrier and is able to unlock and register the phone.
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In this regard then it's not just LG, Motorola too.
Making the awasome Droid4 exclusively for Verizon in US and no GSM version for T-Mobile or AT&T.
I guess Motorola deserve what is happening to them now, guts taken out by Google and being sold to Lenovo as an empty shell.
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The LG Enact has identical spec as the F3Q, BUT it is a CDMA phone
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I know it is CDMA but I was wondering if it was physically identical. I was wondering if you might be able to use accessories like cases made for the Enact on the F3Q, and maybe even change the ugly blue keyboard of the F3Q to the grey one of the Enact.
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I know it is CDMA but I was wondering if it was physically identical. I was wondering if you might be able to use accessories like cases made for the Enact on the F3Q, and maybe even change the ugly blue keyboard of the F3Q to the grey one of the Enact.
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I really don't understand the design process over at LG.
If I buy the F3Q, the first thing I would do is that out that back shell cover and spray it will some black or pearl-white spray paint.
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Not sure about Europe, but some South East Asian countries welcome qwerty keyboard phone. What is LG thinking? Can't sell a phone without carrier backing?
The LG Enact has identical spec as the F3Q, BUT it is a CDMA phone for Verizon so it is almost impossible to use outside the US, unless you are using a CDMA carrier and is able to unlock and register the phone.
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Actually it has a CDMA and LTE radio and has a SIM card slot. But nowhere else really uses the Band 13 LTE Verizon deploys, so can't really use it anywhere else. Maybe when Videotron starts setting up the C1 band in Canada then can use those phones here.
Contacted a few buying agents in the hope of importing one from the US, but they told me a monthly plan is required for purchasing this phone, so resales are not likely to circulate for the moment.
The ffollowing guide from k1mu worked on rooting my mobile f3q. Also I was able to buy the device out right from a mobile store in California for 339.99 plus tax for a total of 368.04 . This was with no monthly plan. Hope this helps anyone Else out. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758
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The ffollowing guide from k1mu worked on rooting my mobile f3q.
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Brilliant. Now Cyanogenmod someone please and I'll get this as my second device, even though I already have a nicely working Samsung Galaxy Relay (with slide-out qwerty also).
Wow, rooted already. This phone is definitely promising.
...I wonder if there's enough of us outside USA that it might be worth getting someone reliable to do a group purchase for us?
I can just see it now, some random guy walking into a T-Mobile store and asking for 26 F3Qs, 18 cases, 6 USB chargers and 5 dust protectors. :laugh:
Guys,
I don't know how many of us are left but I'm sure the numbers are few and I believe this might be the best forum on the interwebs for this. I have a serious question and I want a place I can get some ongoing feedback and interaction and I know you are up to the task!
My Onyx Black Note 7 (bestest/most favortitist phone I've ever held) was summarily hotlined late last month. I was successful in getting it turned back on only to have it happen again 1 week later. SAD. I re-activated my Note 3 and now have two devices I use daily which seems really dumb. I WANT MY NOTE 7 BACK!!! I have been reading about trimming SIM cards down to fit and see that some have had promising results.
I contacted a buddy who works in a Verizon corporate store and he said that trimming my Micro SIM, from my active Note 3, to Nano size and putting it in my Note 7 would work...but not for long. They will eventually hotline me again (darn IMEI).
So...who has done/tried this? How did it go? How long did it last?
After the big trim, my SIM won't work in my Note 3 any longer and I'll have to get a replacement. This doesn't sound like a game I want to play till Fall.
I would like to believe that at some point they might stop the hotline game but it's probably wishful thinking.
Thanks Team.
i kept mine too and it does make a cool little tablet. if i could get it back on verizon's network i most definitely would do so.
but another issue is this: i took the replacement and therefore have the PHE firmware and am unable to root. but even if i could root, who would put together a ROM for such a device? there are only a handful of people who are in this boat. but that said, root for the PHE firmware would be nice to have...
I recently just let my phone go. It isn't worth it in the end, unless you take the phone to another network or really, really want to deal with with the company as a whole. My phone was hot lined, just like everyone else's. I had another rep take the hotline off, and had the note working again for about a week till it was turned off again. After emailing the CEO, and eventually talking to corporate office, the woman over the phone offered me, at best, a free certified S4 with a $20 increase to my line access fee for a 2-year contract. This option would have costed me the price of another Note7 in the end. At that point, going up in the chain isn't going to get you a refund, nor will they allow the phone to work on the network.
In the legal realm, Verizon can't hot line a phone because they "feel like the device is dangerous". They can't hot line a phone because "they want too" either. They can only hot line a phone under whatever clauses warrant it. If you bring this information to a Verizon rep, and ask them to provide prove that the US CPSC specifically is forcing all cell phone companies to hotline the phone...blah blah blah they'll tell you cool get a lawyer and go up the chain. Even mentioning the term "voluntary" recall triggers them. The store i went into, actually just to give someone a hard time over the whole thing, physically stepped away from me when he saw my phone and the look on his face was utter disgust, like what am I still doing with it? But, whatever.
Beyond all the legality, the system itself is auditing accounts with valid ID's. Note7 IMEI's that is. If the system catches one on an active line, the phone will get hot lined. At that point, you have to find a tech rep who will switch it off, or just reactivate the device. Nobody knows how often or how long the system audit will stay on for, but its there and that can not be avoided. With the system in place, AND fighting an entire company who doesn't want another liability issue, its just over.
The two solutions that current work: Fight the system, or bring the phone to a prepaid network. I'm sorry, and I wish I could offer you more help. I mean hell, I was given the device for free and I still fought to keep using it. Long after the whole thing went down with the recall and everything.
Thanks for the replies.
Yeah it sucks.
I pre-ordered mine, spent week setting it up perfectly only to have to return it a month later. I then followed every forum and had every conceivable block in place in the end, to avoid some crippling malady (so far still 100% charging, no nag screen. Did these happen to any Verizon customers?) Then came the dreaded hotline. The first time I was hit, they directed all of my outgoing calls to my personal voice mail message making it impossible to even call customer support. I had to borrow a phone to call in.
And now... it's a gorgeous, joy to hold wi-fi tablet.
My hope is that they will stop this hotline nonsense at some point and I can do the SIM swap. I have read a couple of posts that swapping back and forth isn't all that difficult but even so, sounds like a PITA.
In the end I'm just sad about the whole situation but I'm sure a new and improved Note will lift my spirits and all will be right in my world again.
Cheers
has anyone done the rooting for the note 7 and had it fail in odin process what do i do so i may proceed and get it rooted successfully?
I'm doing the same exact thing as you: Using two devices daily.
I use my cracked Galaxy S4 for call & SMS (which is rarely) and my Note 7 for everything else.
Just waiting till the day I can buy the Galaxy S8 and only have to carry around one device.
My solution for using my VZW Note 7 was to put my tmobile sim in it. I got the Note 7 via work but always used it with my personal tmobile sim. I use my note 7 every damn day and have not been updated, blocked or even charge limited. I love my Note 7. I did get a V20 to replace it but that phone is horrid. I'll never give up my N7.
[A note 3 SIM won't work because it's too big, the chip part is larger than the entire Note 7 SIM. Those that have done this are using Note 4 or later SIMs.
Based on my research, you can successfully trim a Micro SIM down to a Nano SIM. You do have to cut through the metal but it will work.
Now another question; are you going to jump on an S8 (or plus) or wait till the Fall and hopefully a new Note?
Is Verizon's method based on the phone IMEI or build.prop device name? With root it's easy to change the build.prop and with Xposed there's an IMEI change module. Would this work?
I have 3 Note 7's, non are rooted yet. Not sure which updates they have but I'm going to try.
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Based on my research, you can successfully trim a Micro SIM down to a Nano SIM. You do have to cut through the metal but it will work.
Now another question; are you going to jump on an S8 (or plus) or wait till the Fall and hopefully a new Note?
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S8 plus FTW.
As long as it has a headphone jack.
If there's no headphone jack, Samsung is on my sh!t list.
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S8 plus FTW.
As long as it has a headphone jack.
If there's no headphone jack, Samsung is on my sh!t list.
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So S Pen is something you can live without?
I cannot.
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So S Pen is something you can live without?
I cannot.
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Yep absolutely. The S pen is cool and all, but I haven't really used it in months.
I just hope Samsung integrates the GIF maker into the Galaxy S8 plus, that's the coolest function.
I'm still rockin my n7 fully functional... minus the crack on the back glass. So mad. They tried many things but I'm using it right now
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They hot lined me. I turned it back on. They hot lined again. I went to turn back on and sim was zapped. So I clicked the little link to order a new sim for my n7 for free through VZ. It came and n7 works 2 plus weeks. Ordered a backup nano sim too. They'll quit
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They hot lined me. I turned it back on. They hot lined again. I went to turn back on and sim was zapped. So I clicked the little link to order a new sim for my n7 for free through VZ. It came and n7 works 2 plus weeks. Ordered a backup nano sim too. They'll quit
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I hope so!! Please keep us updated ok?
Thanks
Still going strong!
Sent from my Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 7 using XDA Labs
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My solution for using my VZW Note 7 was to put my tmobile sim in it. I got the Note 7 via work but always used it with my personal tmobile sim. I use my note 7 every damn day and have not been updated, blocked or even charge limited. I love my Note 7. I did get a V20 to replace it but that phone is horrid. I'll never give up my N7.
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Exactly what I'm doing. Signed up for T-Mobile one and using their sim. I plan on using it till the note 8 is released
Went the whole month of February suspended, then I activated a s7 and switched the sim over to the n7. Been working since the first. Returned the s7, holding out til the s8 plus has been out awhile before jumping to that.
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The s7 felt so slow and gimped compared to the n7. Can't go backwards in the smartphone world.
Thinking About Doing Same Thing
Oyeve said:
My solution for using my VZW Note 7 was to put my tmobile sim in it. I got the Note 7 via work but always used it with my personal tmobile sim. I use my note 7 every damn day and have not been updated, blocked or even charge limited. I love my Note 7. I did get a V20 to replace it but that phone is horrid. I'll never give up my N7.
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Hello Oyeve,
I was hotlined by Verizon and that was the last straw after a dozen years of business with them. I am thinking of doing the same thing as you, but I don't want to scare T-Mobile and run into the same hotline problem. How's it going on T-Mobile with your Verizon Note 7 since your post here?
Thanks,
Egyptmex
Sans SIM, Successful Hard Factory Reset on Note 7
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Hello Oyeve,
I was hotlined by Verizon and that was the last straw after a dozen years of business with them. I am thinking of doing the same thing as you, but I don't want to scare T-Mobile and run into the same hotline problem. How's it going on T-Mobile with your Verizon Note 7 since your post here?
Thanks,
Egyptmex
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After backing up my Note 7 and removing the SIM card, I am pleased to report that the dreaded OTA update I successfully dodged for months when I was a Verizon customer no longer appears after a hard reset (simultaneous press of Home, Power, and Volume Up buttons and then choosing factory reset from menu)!
Okay, for those who have lost hope unlocking this phone, i have found a reliable and fast service on ebay.
After numerous attempts to call t-mobile (I'm from Philippines btw) they weren't able to help me as i don't have an account with them. Costumer service are from PH too fyi.
I also searched this forum and truat me there is no other way than to pay for unlocking, but where? Some say cellunloker can do the job, but for how much? I've seen it and it's like 40-50$. Oh boy! It's almost the price of a used g5.
So i searched ebay to look for cheap unlocking services. I first tried the software from a seller name TMBKILLER, but it didn't work. Glad i got my refund immediately, like 4 days. It was for 20$ usd or 1200php
Then i found this seller, quickpro-unlocks, who sells it for also 20$. But this is cheaper because its canadian dollar. In php it just translated to 800php only. So like TMBkiller, your phone must be rooted on stock android 7.0. The difference with quickpro vs tmb is that quickpro will do the unlocking via remote access.
The process just took us under 30 mins, it was fast. Also this guys are nice and trustworthy. I was happy with their service. It's a hassle free procedure and worth the money.
So this is it guys. This is the only way aside from the official one. Thia process is especially for those who are not in the US like me.
I'm not associated with them. I'm just sharing an answer to a problem. Hope this will help you guys.
Remember that they can only unlock your phone if you are rooted on a stock android 7.0 for LG. And yes, it's a permanent unlock. I'm now running fulmics rom
Btw check the image and just search them on ebay. They are 100% legit!
I unlocked my LG G5 h830 today using the service OP provided and it works. Thank you sir.
Hi!
I am Hungarian but I can not find a user asking a link?
Thanks i' for finding! Here's exactly what service should be because Samsung phones are written ?
Csoke said:
Thanks i' for finding! Here's exactly what service should be because Samsung phones are written ?
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They don't show for LG phones. Send them a PM and ask if it still available. They do unlock G5
I built my H830 from parts (case, motherboard, chin modile, screen, digitizer, etc.). The motherboard was supposedly unlocked according to the seller, and sure enough it was when I first started it up. As soon as I removed the bootblock lock however it reverted to network-locked. I used TMBKILLER and it worked like a charm.
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I built my H830 from parts (case, motherboard, chin modile, screen, digitizer, etc.). The motherboard was supposedly unlocked according to the seller, and sure enough it was when I first started it up. As soon as I removed the bootblock lock however it reverted to network-locked. I used TMBKILLER and it worked like a charm.
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Hey do you know if this is still a thing Seems somewhat legit the software he offers reminds me of some i have for samsung
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Hey do you know if this is still a thing Seems somewhat legit the software he offers reminds me of some i have for samsung
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It may be. I am not sure for Samsung phones but it worked like a charm for me on my LG T-Mobile phone which was sim-locked (don't confuse this with boot-locked - it is totally different). so I would call it legit. YMMV depending who it is you are dealing with. As I built the phone from various LG G5 parts T-Mobile would not even talk to me. But for me TMBKILLER worked like a charm.
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It may be. I am not sure for Samsung phones but it worked like a charm for me on my LG T-Mobile phone which was sim-locked (don't confuse this with boot-locked - it is totally different). so I would call it legit. YMMV depending who it is you are dealing with. As I built the phone from various LG G5 parts T-Mobile would not even talk to me. But for me TMBKILLER worked like a charm.
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Yea I know the dif on boot-loader and sim
I ended up going through tmobile despite not being a customer on their face book page and they had my imei white-listed for unlock on their server
I was station the tmb killer program is almost identical to a Samsung program i use
I have a h830 I am tired of Sammy and their games got this one out of luck as t mobile has no service stores or anything within like 100 miles of me So just finding a H830 in my area and me landing it is luck
I contacted the guy from this method for sim unlock and he seems legit hope to do loads of business with him in the future
Like many others I am not sure when I'll even get it. Ordered it 5 pm ET on 19th. No update. Doubt I'll get it anytime soon. And obviously need a phone kinda now.
What are the options for a quality flagship? As far as I can see
Mi 11 ultra
S21 ultra
One plus 9 pro
Anything I am missing?
For the above the way I see it next gen is in a few months but I obviously can't wait.
Thanks in advance for any help. Appreciate it.
I've been trying to find a manufacturer to stick with after bouncing around a lot over the years. I was hoping that Google would be it with the new devices. Not quite sure on that. If I return this, I'm sticking with Samsung. I'm on Verizon, so most of the alternative devices (Xiaomi and the likes) are a no go.
My only issues with Samsung is they stick ads in everything and they have their separate store for updating some of their apps. They need to remove both of those.
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I've been trying to find a manufacturer to stick with after bouncing around a lot over the years. I was hoping that Google would be it with the new devices. Not quite sure on that. If I return this, I'm sticking with Samsung. I'm on Verizon, so most of the alternative devices (Xiaomi and the likes) are a no go.
My only issues with Samsung is they stick ads in everything and they have their separate store for updating some of their apps. They need to remove both of those.
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Didn't realize Xiaomi and the rest are no good with Verizon? Are they ok with ATT or T Mobile?
Yes. They work much better there. It mostly has to do with GMA and CDMA frequencies. AT&T and T-Mobile use GMA while Sprint and Verizon heavily rely on CDMA, which I guess is slowly changing. Verizon also likes to heavily limit what devices they allow on their network.
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Didn't realize Xiaomi and the rest are no good with Verizon? Are they ok with ATT or T Mobile?
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Xiaomi has next to zero compatible US bands. You'll have an awful time on T-Mobile, and I believe the same on AT&T.
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My only issues with Samsung is they stick ads in everything ... They need to remove both of those.
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They just removed that.
Nice. Now they just need to dump their store and go strictly Play Store.
I mean, I agree, but it's not a huge deal. It auto-updates just like the play store does. Worst case scenario you check it once a month after the software update. /shrug
If I was ABSOLUTELY going to get a phone now, and I wasn't getting a pixel, I'd get a Oneplus 9 Pro. It's actually a great device, it just has **** software. Root it, and put a pixel experience ROM on it, and it's damn near identical to the 6 Pro. I actually think I like the hardware/feel of the 9 Pro better, especially in the pine green color.
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Like many others I am not sure when I'll even get it. Ordered it 5 pm ET on 19th. No update. Doubt I'll get it anytime soon. And obviously need a phone kinda now.
What are the options for a quality flagship? As far as I can see
Mi 11 ultra
S21 ultra
One plus 9 pro
Anything I am missing?
For the above the way I see it next gen is in a few months but I obviously can't wait.
Thanks in advance for any help. Appreciate it.
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looked at the MI11 Ultra just can't find anywhere to buy one
vivo x70 pro and pro plus are S tier phones
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I've been trying to find a manufacturer to stick with after bouncing around a lot over the years. I was hoping that Google would be it with the new devices. Not quite sure on that. If I return this, I'm sticking with Samsung. I'm on Verizon, so most of the alternative devices (Xiaomi and the likes) are a no go.
My only issues with Samsung is they stick ads in everything and they have their separate store for updating some of their apps. They need to remove both of those.
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I was like you ,was always a HTC fan ......then they went off the boil over from, them to the essential phone ,which was awesome and massively under rated ,when they didn't survive I moved to the one plus 6t loved it and moved to the one plus 8 pro .....but they seem to be going away from op attraction now ,so now the pixel 6 pro
From a op only things I miss are warp charge alert slider ......unless your a i sheep or Samsunh fan boy then I think it's always going to be jumping to what's best at the time
I did love OnePlus, but they're utterly crappy camera (in the past) had me move away from them. I hear they've greatly improved that. At the end of the day, Samsung probably offers the best all around package with the least agitations for me, currently. They've made great strides in their UI, bloat, and ad invasiveness. They still have a long way to go, though.
I'll hold on to this P6P for a week or so and put it though the ringer. If it doesn't smooth out, I'll just use my 4A 5G until the new line of Samsung's roll out as I've already sold both my S21 and S21+ to family.
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Yes. They work much better there. It mostly has to do with GMA and CDMA frequencies. AT&T and T-Mobile use GMA while Sprint and Verizon heavily rely on CDMA, which I guess is slowly changing. Verizon also likes to heavily limit what devices they allow on their network.
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To be a little more clear, the issue comes down to frequencies rather than technology right now. With LTE, all U.S. carriers are using the same standard that the rest of the world uses. Same with 5G. Verizon and Sprint's (now T-Mobile's) CDMA networks will be shut down next year. While Verizon has some limitations on devices on their network, AT&T has actually become far more restrictive.
The real issue is the frequency bands that the carriers use for LTE and 5G. For example, T-Mobile has nationwide LTE and 5G coverage using band 71, but almost no other carriers in the world use it, which means that most phones sold in Europe and Asia won't work on one of T-Mobile's primary bands and T-Mobile customers may not get service without it. Verizon and AT&T just picked up a bunch of C-band spectrum that T-Mobile and much of the world aren't using for 5G. They also have mmWave 5G using bands that aren't widely used outside the U.S. right now as well. Though mmWave is only deployed in a small number of high-density urban areas.
One of the great things about the P6P is that the U.S. model has basically all of the frequencies used in the U.S. and most other countries, including mmWave.
In terms of phones, if you want compatibility with U.S. carriers (particularly T-Mobile on band 71), flagship specs, and the ability to unlock a bootloader and root, you have very few options right now. OnePlus and Google are the big ones, as Samsung locks their bootloaders for models with U.S. frequencies. Asus, Motorola, and Sony have a couple phones that will work as well. This site is a good resource for phones that work with T-Mobile (and often Verizon and AT&T too).
Wow, thank you. Way more informative than my post.
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For sure a good option but I wonder how compatible it is with Verizon or ATT. And I don't think there is a global version available.
Shipping update says I will get it today. Somehow I doubt that but will see. May not get the alternatives but we shall see.
LOL what a question to ask on the 6 Pro forums
Shipoftheline said:
LOL what a question to ask on the 6 Pro forums
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Why not? If it looked like it was getting delayed for weeks what can one do?
Pr20 said:
Why not? If it looked like it was getting delayed for weeks what can one do?
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Well if I have to explain it to you its like going into a car showroom and asking them what's the best alternative to their motors
Shipoftheline said:
Well if I have to explain it to you its like going into a car showroom and asking them what's the best alternative to their motors
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We can agree to disagree. There are no salespeople in this forum. And as you can see people have been more than happy to help.