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Hey guys,
This has been bothering me for a while now, but on occasion, my phone just stops sleeping. I attached a screen shot to show what I mean.
It happened on stock, so I've tried a couple other kernels, but they have the same problem.
Any suggestions?
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trifthen said:
Hey guys,
This has been bothering me for a while now, but on occasion, my phone just stops sleeping. I attached a screen shot to show what I mean.
It happened on stock, so I've tried a couple other kernels, but they have the same problem.
Any suggestions?
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Yes, probably you're experiencing the "AndroidOS" runaway issue. This is a nebulous and currently unresolvable issue, probably related to some Samsung/Sprint driver issue(s) causing feedback loops between the events/0 and suspend processes. It seems to be fixed temporarily by a reboot, or just randomly. It may or may not be associated with excessive battery usage.
I used to get those solid awakes, but then I froze a lot of apps and it went away.
I didn't do it systematically to figure out which was the cause.
As an aside, if you have an older version of FlightView, then that could definitely cause the issue. That isn't a stock app, but is somewhat popular and had a bug keeping the phone awake *even though it wasn't configured to do anything*.
Kn0wBuddy said:
Yes, probably you're experiencing the "AndroidOS" runaway issue.
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Ironically, my AndroidOS has always been high (almost always higher than display), but it would always sleep just fine, and my battery-life was pretty good. But every time this happens, my AndroidOS is actually lower than usual.
So I've temporarily disabled Juice Defender (just in case it was interrupting something and confusing it into holding a wake lock) and removed the Facebook widget (Better Battery Stats had that listed as 50% of the wakeup events, which is just ridiculous).
I set a custom reference point so I can watch it for a while and see if anything weird pops up. It seems to be happening more often in the last week or so, and the only thing I did back then was remove Watchdog, because I haven't gotten any alerts for about a month.
I have noticed that usually when it gets stuck in an awake state for a long time, it also coincidentally has a stealth LOS, and rebooting will magically cause texts and voicemails to appear. Let's hope the December radio update fixes that problem.
I loaded it up and used it for about 3 mins or so (gpu force is on). I could feel the phone starting to get hot and about that time my screen went black (which has done this before) so I pulled the battery out which usually fixed previous issues. Well this time everything would boot up and once the launcher loaded my GPS icon appeared in the status bar and the device would crash and reboot again. After numerous battery pulls and booting into safe mode and everything else I could think of the problem never corrected, doing the same thing everytime. Eventually had to restore with factory image.
Just wanted to know if anyone else has experienced this? Also, it doesn't help that in new to android and was completely uneducated on a fix besides what I did and was a little turned off to the OS at that point.
On the other hand I love my Galaxy Nexus lol
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i play around with it here & there but have never had that happen. also, i have gps/location turned off(always that way) so not sure if that has anything to do with it.
I'm playing around with it aswell and up to 30-40 min straight without it ever even getting tempered.. with gps location turned on and over wifi..
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no issues here with earth over wifi. gps off. didn't get too hot either. also loaded faster and with less lag than my transformer.
I've also used it for more than 15 minutes without problems. It does heat up, but nowhere near the ungodly temperatures it reaches while playing games.
gps seems to heat up more when charging it seems. with any phone. but i wouldn't sweat it too much unless your phone is rebooting or melting.
crookone10 said:
Just wanted to know if anyone else has experienced this? Also, it doesn't help that in new to android and was completely uneducated on a fix besides what I did and was a little turned off to the OS at that point.
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I had a few freezes (mostly in google maps) but they were resolved with a battery pull. Your expereince could have been just very bad luck.
Try this App to check your phones hardware: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.into.stability&feature=order_history
I had no problem running it for 20 min, no errors occurred. Phone gets really warm to the right of the camera when the App is active, which is to be expected.
Both mine loaded fine.
Leaving my OP in place, but I have rewritten the description with much more detail and pics here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25401417#post25401417
I suggest skipping to there.
I am looking for general tips here. E.g., not asking you to diagnose my specific problem so much as give me ideas of what else to check or try.
Lately I have had unexplained (to me) battery drain. Yesterday I lost about 25 percent in an hour while the phone idled. It is not a constant thing, though. I can go an hour and loose 1 percent then loose massive amounts in the next hour.
Now, i have searched, but I have not found anything that applies to me.
I have:
Tried a different radio
Tried a different kernel
Reflashed my rom
Phone is entering deep sleep according to cpu spy
There are no unusual or excessive wake locks according to better battery stats
No apps are using a lot of battery.
I am in a low signal area at work, but putting the phone in airplane mode and dissabling background syn does not stop the drain.
Ideas?
might be your phone is loosing signal? i would check the battery stats in the settings menu to see if you have a poor mobile signal.
Zepius said:
might be your phone is loosing signal? i would check the battery stats in the settings menu to see if you have a poor mobile signal.
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beren28 said:
I am in a low signal area at work, but putting the phone in airplane mode and dissabling background syn does not stop the drain.
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So I don't think I can blame it on that.
Do you have any exchange sync on your phone?
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can you give us screen shots of battery stats?
Herman76 said:
Do you have any exchange sync on your phone?
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I do, and on reflection it is a possible culprit since I added it recently.
Didn't occur to me since it was producing no wakelocks and the battery stats did not showing as using much battery.
I shall turn it off for a bit and see if that helps. (unless there is some other way to test if it is the problem first.) I am off to the search button!
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This is from yesterday when i set it down unused for about 90 minutes. The amount of wakes seems liek a lot, but it is similar to what i see when i have far far less drain, so I don't think that is the problem. I didn't get the app list screen, but out should screen as the only major drain with about 2 minutes.
I know it is shows poor signal strength, so immediately after that shot I put it in airplane mode, turned of sync, and rebooted. The battery continued to drain and graph had the exact same slope under those conditions. (Forget to get a pic though.)
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System panel paid version with monitoring enabled is the best for tracking apps using CPU.
OK, still working on this.
To recap:
When the screen is off, and no apps are running I sometimes get inexplicable battery drain. This is occurring under conditions when I should be experiencing little or no drain at all. I say this becuase:
The screen is of and no bakground apps are running
the phone is NOT awake and IS entering deep sleep (as confirmed by cpuspy)
there are no unusual kernel or partial wake locks
there are no apps listed as using unexpected ammounts of battery
This is not a universal problem. The phone *often* behaves as expected. I can leave the phone off for an hour and see a 1% or 2% drain, and I am happy with that. However, sometimes, randomly, it goes nuts on my.
This graph from a few weeks ago shows what I mean. Look in the green box. The phone is sleeping, and the screen is off. The graph starts as a flatline, then, all of a sudden, it begins to drop precipitously.
Here is a graph that shows the battery dropping at the same rate whether the phone is awake or sleeping:
I have gone the following to try and narrow the problem down:
Done a completely fresh install of my Rom including a system wipe.
Tried two kernels (the aokp default and several relases of Franco's
Tried a different radio
Activated and installed a new sim card
I have come to suspect that the problem is network related. When the problem starts, sometimes going into airplane mode and back and/or toggling 2g only temporarily fixes the problem.
I suspect that something is happening with my connection to T-Mobile that keeps the network running and draining power. This is pure speculation, but it is all I can think of.
I installed juice defender (which I had not been previously running) and noticed the that, sometimes, it didn't turn of data when it should have. I also noticed the following two things happen:
I do not believe it is a rom problem, since if so, someone else would be reporting this. It might be an app problem, but if so the app is draining battery without a wake lock and while the phone is in deep sleep.
It is not exchange (as was suggested in this thread) since it continues when I ev my exchange account.
I have no idea what else to do or try.
Since it happens at random and takes a while to identify, uninstalling one app at a time to test for that could easily take months to narrow down a misbehaving app.
I know it is not a hardware issue since last month I got this:
That was with AOKP and Franco (earlier versions obviously)
I have google searched till my fingers bleed.
I am a long way form being an expert, and I suspect I may have overlooked something obvious.
Please, any thoughts??
Damn you definitely have a major issue and I don't know what it could be. But when my phone sleeps itstays dead flat with no awake bars, and drops 1% every 3 hours.
1. Calibrate battery
2. If you really wanna find the problem, install the rom with no mods or apps and run it and see if it still happens. Then add back each mod/app one at a time
derekwilkinson said:
1. Calibrate battery
2. If you really wanna find the problem, install the rom with no mods or apps and run it and see if it still happens. Then add back each mod/app one at a time
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While I appreciate your effort, this is remarkable unhelpful for the following reasons:
1. "calibrating" the battery is a myth and doesn't actually do something. Even if it did, it would not explain the symptoms I have described. I have been around xda long enough to know it is the knee-jerk reaction to any battery question, but it is not relevant here.
2. Since the problem occurs at random, and sometimes takes hours to show up, (For instance, last night I charged to full and tried to catch it happening. For 4 hours nothing happened, it behaved perfectly. Then I went to bed and it immediately started to fall and was dead by morning) and since I have over 100 apps, your suggestion could easily take *over a year* to follow. Believe me, I have thought about it, but I started this thread hoping for ideas that would allow me to avoid it.
Here is that chart for last night.
I had about 1 hour and 30 minutes screen on time with 65% left when I went to bed. When I woke up, phone was dead.
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Damn you definitely have a major issue and I don't know what it could be. But when my phone sleeps itstays dead flat with no awake bars, and drops 1% every 3 hours.
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Mine often does that. But sometimes it doesn't. It is the fact that it happens seemingly at random that makes it so annoying and hard to track down.
I would replace the battery
One thing you haven't rulled out is that the battery itself is bad.
Have a friend you could swap with for a day, or at least long enough to see if the problem follows? If your battery drops on their phone that is also a good indication.
arw01 said:
One thing you haven't rulled out is that the battery itself is bad.
Have a friend you could swap with for a day, or at least long enough to see if the problem follows? If your battery drops on their phone that is also a good indication.
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The thought has occurred to me, but unfortunately, no, I don't have a friend I can swap with. And really, since I have had the phone less than 3 months, the battery *shouldn't* be bad, but yeah, defective products happen.
If I cannot find any other cause I will likely order a new battery and see if that fixes it.
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While I appreciate your effort, this is remarkable unhelpful for the following reasons:
1. "calibrating" the battery is a myth and doesn't actually do something. Even if it did, it would not explain the symptoms I have described. I have been around xda long enough to know it is the knee-jerk reaction to any battery question, but it is not relevant here.
2. Since the problem occurs at random, and sometimes takes hours to show up, (For instance, last night I charged to full and tried to catch it happening. For 4 hours nothing happened, it behaved perfectly. Then I went to bed and it immediately started to fall and was dead by morning) and since I have over 100 apps, your suggestion could easily take *over a year* to follow. Believe me, I have thought about it, but I started this thread hoping for ideas that would allow me to avoid it.
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1. yes battery calibration does make a difference.
2. ok, so an app can't run a process at random? especially when you have "over 100 apps"? Run the rom stock and see if it still happens, or even run the stock rom/kernel. if you don't want to try this then why are you asking for suggestions? christ
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1. yes battery calibration does make a difference.
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You are incorrect. But, in any case, I DID calibrate the battery just to cover bases in the case that I was wrong.
2. ok, so an app can't run a process at random? especially when you have "over 100 apps"?
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We'll of course it can. That is kinda my point. If I go one app at a time waiting for it to "run a process at random" I am talking literally MONTHS of testing. I would have to wait many hours, if not days after installing or uninstalling an app to be sure whether or not it made a difference, then move on the the next. This is simply not an option. I started this thread in hopes that a realistic and doable solution might exist that I was unaware of.
Run the rom stock and see if it still happens, or even run the stock rom/kernel. if you don't want to try this then why are you asking for suggestions? christ
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I am asking because there may be a solution that I am unaware of that doesn't require me to put my entire life on hold for months. It is possible that there is no such solution, but I asked in case there was one.
Sorry to have put you out so much.
You mentioned you recently installed exchange sync. Did turning off sync remedy this or have you not tried disabling all sync features?
One other thing to check is the background data usage of your apps. You'd find this under 'data usage' and make sure you enable the wifi tab so you can see data usage on wifi.
skadebo said:
You mentioned you recently installed exchange sync. Did turning off sync remedy this or have you not tried disabling all sync features?
when i did a complete quote and re flash i did not setup the exchange account, but the issue continued.
One other thing to check is the background data usage of your apps. You'd find this under 'data usage' and make sure you enable the wifi tab so you can see data usage on wifi.
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I'll check that out. Thanks.
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My battery also drains at a rate similar to yours however I'm on the CDMA version. Hopefully you can figure out what's going on with yours.
I have an htc one m8 with android 5.0.1 (lollipop). I am experiencing some stuttering issues. For example, in the app drawer when I scroll up and down for a certain period of time slowly (like for a 1 minute or so), there will be a glitch/stutter where the scroll quickly and automatically goes to next page (it is almost like the app drawer just blinked and refreshed but it shouldn't be doing that right?). After that stutter/glitch then no more glitches/stutters occur.
It usually happens when my cell signal is weak
OR
If i turn ON the cell radio or WIFI after being exiting airplane mode, the phone starts connecting to the wifi or cell signal and a stutter in the app drawer occurs.
But the scrolling everywhere else is fine (ex.scrolling in homescreen pages). There are no glitches,stutters etc. anywhere except for in the app drawer.
So is it doing that since the phone is trying to connect to the wifi/cell radio and causes the stutter?
I suspect that many users will not have experienced this issue even if it exists because not everybody would be focusing so much time scrolling in the app drawer like I do for no apparent reason anyway lol :laugh: . I just wanted to know if it is normal on every htc one m8 or not.
Let me know if I am not being clear enough, thanks!
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I have an htc one m8 with android 5.0.1 (lollipop). I am experiencing some stuttering issues. For example, in the app drawer when I scroll up and down for a certain period of time slowly (like for a 1 minute or so), there will be a glitch/stutter where the scroll quickly and automatically goes to next page (it is almost like the app drawer just blinked and refreshed but it shouldn't be doing that right?). After that stutter/glitch then no more glitches/stutters occur.
It usually happens when my cell signal is weak
OR
If i turn ON the cell radio or WIFI after being exiting airplane mode, the phone starts connecting to the wifi or cell signal and a stutter in the app drawer occurs.
But the scrolling everywhere else is fine (ex.scrolling in homescreen pages). There are no glitches,stutters etc. anywhere except for in the app drawer.
So is it doing that since the phone is trying to connect to the wifi/cell radio and causes the stutter?
I suspect that many users will not have experienced this issue even if it exists because not everybody would be focusing so much time scrolling in the app drawer like I do for no apparent reason anyway lol :laugh: . I just wanted to know if it is normal on every htc one m8 or not.
Let me know if I am not being clear enough, thanks!
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I know it sounds basic and simple, but in most cases, a factory reset will fix those kind if issues.
UniversalKID said:
I know it sounds basic and simple, but in most cases, a factory reset will fix those kind if issues.
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hey thanks for getting back to me! i appreciate it.
i already tried a factory reset as well as wipe cache too a few days ago
but it still occurs. so i am guessing this is not happening on your m8?
hc p304 said:
hey thanks for getting back to me! i appreciate it.
i tried a factory reset as well as wipe cache too
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So still the same? Some heavy usage must be happening from an app maybe. Check under Power : Battery Usage.
Some app may be slowing down the CPU performance.
Try High Performance mode under Developer options.
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So still the same? Some heavy usage must be happening from an app maybe. Check under Power : Battery Usage.
Some app may slow down the CPU performance.
Try High Performance mode under Developer options.
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all seems ok under the battery usage. but doesn't the high performance mode cause huge battery drain and is not recommended?
also, this isn't something that happens all the time, just when i keep scrolling a lot in the app drawer after i turn on wifi, the stutter occurs.
are you sure this isn't normal?
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all seems ok under the battery usage. but doesn't the high performance mode cause huge battery drain and is not recommended?
also, this isn't something that happens all the time, just when i keep scrolling a lot in the app drawer after i turn on wifi, the stutter occurs.
are you sure this isn't normal?
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Just try High performance mode, just to compare. See if it does the same.
Mine doesn't do that.
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Just try High performance mode, just to compare. See if it does the same.
Mine doesn't do that.
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the stutter still happens in high performance mode after i turn off and then turn on wifi again
maybe you could try this:
first turn off wifi and data, and then turn only wifi on and then open the app drawer and scroll slowly back and forth for a few a pages about for like 30 to 60 seconds. wifi again
hc p304 said:
the stutter still happens in high performance mode after i turn off and then turn on wifi again
maybe you could try this:
first turn off wifi and data, and then turn only wifi on and then open the app drawer and scroll slowly back and forth for a few a pages about for like 30 to 60 seconds. wifi again
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Tried it. No sttuter. But don't worry about it, maybe you have auto connect with saved WI-FI networks and stutter just when the device locks into a network.
I have auto connect and no sttuter. Just ignore it, it's a minor ''issue''
Every so often, my phone will be held constantly awake, despite the fact that the screen is off, causing large battery drain. Rebooting can fix this, but the problem always comes back after a while. The phone's battery stats do not account for this extra battery drain.
In the screenshot attached it is clear that there is a period of time where the phone is constantly awake, and after a charge and reboot, the constant wakefulness disappears.
Any similar experiences?
Amisuta said:
Every so often, my phone will be held constantly awake, despite the fact that the screen is off, causing large battery drain. Rebooting can fix this, but the problem always comes back after a while. The phone's battery stats do not account for this extra battery drain.
In the screenshot attached it is clear that there is a period of time where the phone is constantly awake, and after a charge and reboot, the constant wakefulness disappears.
Any similar experiences?
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Don't have that on mine. Has your phone always done that, or is it something that started happening later on?
How long have you had the phone?
AnabolicAndroidz said:
Don't have that on mine. Has your phone always done that, or is it something that started happening later on?
How long have you had the phone?
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Had it since it came out. It's a somewhat new thing. I just noticed today that it could be the discord app. Doesn't properly hang up. Not entirely sure though, but force-stopping discord seemed to do the same trick as a reboot. I'll have to repeat this a couple times to make sure. Funny that I notice this only after I post about it, when it has been going on for at least a couple months.
Amisuta said:
Every so often, my phone will be held constantly awake, despite the fact that the screen is off, causing large battery drain. Rebooting can fix this, but the problem always comes back after a while. The phone's battery stats do not account for this extra battery drain.
In the screenshot attached it is clear that there is a period of time where the phone is constantly awake, and after a charge and reboot, the constant wakefulness disappears.
Any similar experiences?
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Amisuta said:
Had it since it came out. It's a somewhat new thing. I just noticed today that it could be the discord app. Doesn't properly hang up. Not entirely sure though, but force-stopping discord seemed to do the same trick as a reboot. I'll have to repeat this a couple times to make sure. Funny that I notice this only after I post about it, when it has been going on for at least a couple months.
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Could be. Some apps can have weird little bugs in them like that. (I don't use discord though, so can't really verify whether its this or not).
Did you install the discord app on your phone on the first day of getting your phone, or did you download it after noticing the battery drain bug?
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Could be. Some apps can have weird little bugs in them like that. (I don't use discord though, so can't really verify whether its this or not).
Did you install the discord app on your phone on the first day of getting your phone, or did you download it after noticing the battery drain bug?
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I'm embarrassed this was fixed so fast. It was the discord app. I just have to use the force stop command to completely shut it down.
Amisuta said:
I'm embarrassed this was fixed so fast. It was the discord app. I just have to use the force stop command to completely shut it down.
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No need to be embarrassed my friend! (I've often had issues with a device where I've noticed some weird quirk or bug that seemed to have no immediate or obvious explanation as to what was causing it). Often the problem was right under my nose the whole time, and wasn't until I spoke to people that I realized what it was. Happens to me all the time! (So there's never any shame in asking). Anyways, glad you managed to solve it in the end.
Pity it makes you do the force stop in order to get the problem to go away though. (but that's their fault, not yours!) I hope you left the developers a bad review on the discord app to let them know about the annoying issue that their app causes. (that's what I normally do when they need to fix something) bad reviews draws more attention to stuff they need to make a priority of fixing. I often offer to rate it as 5 star again if and when they fix it, to give them an incentive.
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I'm embarrassed this was fixed so fast. It was the discord app. I just have to use the force stop command to completely shut it down.
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I don't know what discord is, but can add that if you go to settings> apps> discord, and click on "data usage" that will reveal a toggle to turn off background data usage. Not sure if you knew but I have used it quite a bit to temper background battery usage of apps. Cheers!!