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[Q] will the marketplace work overseas?

My question is, will i be able to buy/download apps for a WP7 phone (lets say from the US[samsung focus]) in countries that don't have windows phone 7 yet?(lets say Israel)

Hard reset my phone and booted it up in airplane mode, market works just fine that way with wifi so I don't see why not.

KingpinEX said:
My question is, will i be able to buy/download apps for a WP7 phone (lets say from the US[samsung focus]) in countries that don't have windows phone 7 yet?(lets say Israel)
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if you can buy a windows phone there at present, then yes you shouldn't have a problem. if it isn't available there at the moment, you may have to do some dodgy things and make it think you're from US.

Works fine in Norway, but I'm not sure if I can get all programs available in the US or just a subset...Hard to tell, really

Unless the marketplace is available in that country no.
For instance, they sell WP7 phones in Sweden but they haven't launched the marketplace here yet. Which is idiotic.
You can get around it though by making a new windows live id that has the country set to a country with the marketplace available.
Check out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=830701 for more information.

wow thats cool i just change my PC location to USA and i got my Zune Marketplace i never had before thats cool, i see the windows phone marketplace now...
is there a way i can make my pc think i have a windows phone phone conected so i can try to download free apps?
and for payed apps i have an AMEX card so i think im set.

You can download free apps if your Windows Live is set to a country with marketplace support. However, to buy apps you need to set your credit card details in Zune with an address in that country. I have a Netherlands Mastercard but put in my parents address in UK and its working great.

Hmm so I assume it will not NORMALLY work in Poland without setting another account which is set as UK?
I mean I use Hotmail for 12 years and probably it's set as polish, so...
Without this workarounds no chance?
On offical MS polish page they invite to buy 3 WP7 devices in polish stores....
So looks like official....
Any clue?

jhughesy said:
You can download free apps if your Windows Live is set to a country with marketplace support. However, you buy apps you need to set your credit card details in Zune with an address in that country. I have a Netherlands Mastercard but put in my parents address in UK and its working great.
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Which mastercard are you using. I have got one from ABN AMRO but it is not working. Only thing different is that I'm trying it with the US marketplace. I read somewhere it only worked a few days after launch day. I tried it btw on the zune desktop. Keep getting a error message saying that my creditcard details are wrong.

There is a service called global shop for AMEX card owners that gives u an address in the USA in Miami, so I can register to any us retail and give them the global shop Miami address that’s just cool
And as for changing the Live, takes only a sec to do and I have my account for like 5 years.
but i still wana be sure, so if any of you know of any virtual WP7, or if any one tried in a country that don't sell phones yet.

Setting up your WP7 device with a US live-id works fine, but you won't be able to buy apps without a US credit card also. Downloading free apps works fine, though, but when WP7 is launched with all services and the marketplace in your own country you will have to reset your device and set it up again with a local live-id to use these. Any apps downloaded from the US marketplace will then be lost.

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Setting up your WP7 device with a US live-id works fine, but you won't be able to buy apps without a US credit card also. Downloading free apps works fine, though, but when WP7 is launched with all services and the marketplace in your own country you will have to reset your device and set it up again with a local live-id to use these. Any apps downloaded from the US marketplace will then be lost.
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So all that makes buying a WP7 device NOW nonsense.
Whether you don't have access to all the features or you're screwed later....
Discouraging.

at present, perhaps, but i think over time as they support more and more languages they'll open it up more.

The Gate Keeper said:
at present, perhaps, but i think over time as they support more and more languages they'll open it up more.
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Thanks. But that changes a bit my thoughts of getting it NOW.....

tbk21 said:
Which mastercard are you using. I have got one from ABN AMRO but it is not working. Only thing different is that I'm trying it with the US marketplace. I read somewhere it only worked a few days after launch day. I tried it btw on the zune desktop. Keep getting a error message saying that my creditcard details are wrong.
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ING Mastercard (Netherlands), In Zune add credit card UK address with Netherlands card number, Windows Live UK account.
I did this two days ago and already bought some apps. I also read somewhere this is the official method endorsed by Microsoft Netherlands so maybe give them a call if its not working?

marketplace working for unsupported countries?!!!

Hey folks,
I 've been using an unlocked at&t samsung focus in Brazil for quite some time and as any user from unsupported country i've been limited to free apps in marketplace. I dont know if marketplace changed policy or not but today i bought a gold subscription for my xbox live account (which is the same as the one i use in wp7 - US Live Account) and magically everything is working now. I bought monopoly ($4,99) and sound recorder ($0,99) from wp7 marketplace without a problem.
When you buy a gold subscription in xbox they just validate your credit card information without verifying the address so i used my credit card and an US address. Now wp7 seems to be using the same credit card info from xbox live for purchases.
Can anyone confirm this works or mktplace really changed policy and has nothing to do with xbox live?!

This sounds really interesting, please someone to test and report if this works. Regards

Are your Live account registered as an U.S. account too? Otherwise I don't think that you shouldn't have been able to even download free Apps. To register an account in another country is the "official" workaround, the problem is to get a creditcard validated since they seem to check which country it's registered in nowadays.

Nop.
Tried to register my credit card using the same profile that I've used with my PSN account (wich works perfectly). But here, when I try to register my credit card, it gives me error.
It's annoying; I need to buy some apps. That is annoying and non sense.

nop. thats the point i didn't registered any credit card on my live account. I can't... like any other person living in unsupported country. What i did was making my xbox account gold (which happens to be the same US live ID i use for wp7) and voilà! xbox website doesn't check your location, you can use your normal credit card and input any US address to become gold.
After this step they don't ask for a credit card in my live account anymore, it uses the one i have in my xbox account. Since then I'm able to buy apps.
in resume:
1. Get your US live account and register/convert it on xbox live at www.xbox.com. (The liveid must be the same primary account you use on wp7)
2. Go gold using the US page ($9.99/mo if i recall). (Will ask you for a credit card)
3. Try to buy something in wp7 marketplace.
That's what i did and surprisingly worked for me.

also make sure you are in /en-us at xbox.com. Check the address bar. Force en-US if it redirects to your country.
http://www.xbox.com/en-US/live/joinlive?xr=shellnav

Is here anyone who tested this and can say its woking?

Please somebody else has tried this? I need to know.
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nope, not working
tried everything explained twice, showed up "give a correct credir card numbers"

superaca said:
nope, not working
tried everything explained twice, showed up "give a correct credir card numbers"
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Yes, I tried myself some minutes ago and this is BS, doesn't work.

damn...maybe i was lucky. My xbox subscription expired but i still have my credit card on their site and i have full access to marketplace. Bought 7 apps so far.

Lucky. Here didn't work.

[Q] US Android Market Outside US?

I lIve in norway but i have an account here http://www.unblock-us.com so i have set my dns to a US one. Now when i go to android market page on my pc i can see the US market. I have also set my phone dns to the US one so i can access netflix and all that. But i dont see the US android market on my phone. Is there a way i can install the US android market so i can rent movies from the market?

Select Airplane Mode ON, Clear your Market Data, and relaunch the Market with your VPN running.

Does it have to be VPN? I tried the dns i got from unblock-us but it wont work. Netflix and everything else works tho

I don't know if this will help but it works for getting US applications.
https://market.android.com/details?id=ch.racic.android.marketenabler
Good luck!

Vangelis13 said:
I don't know if this will help but it works for getting US applications.
https://market.android.com/details?id=ch.racic.android.marketenabler
Good luck!
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Thanks but i have already tried that setting my carrier to t-mobile with my dns enabled and cleared cache but it still wont show me US Android market where you can see your movies/music/books.

Try also turning off any location services (gps,network) it helped for me on a tablet.
Once you get to the US market it asks you to add a USA credit/debit card and phone number so I wasnt able to buy any movies anyway.

avesik said:
Try also turning off any location services (gps,network) it helped for me on a tablet.
Once you get to the US market it asks you to add a USA credit/debit card and phone number so I wasnt able to buy any movies anyway.
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oh ok. But i just read the comments under marketenabler in market and they all say it doesn't work in ICS. That's why netflix wont show up in market when i search for it. Will try again once marketenabler is updated.

[Q] Skip Registration

I live outside the US. Got a new aftv from a friend in the US. Set up smart dns, created US Amazon account and filled it with gift card $.
When aftv starts it connects to my wifi and then presents me with a screen where I have to register.
It will not accept my US amazon account... And the smart DNS does not appear to help in any way. (It is working for other services like Netflix etc).
Since I am stuck in the Registration screen there is no other options/choises available to me.
Is there a way out of this situation? Is there a way to skip the Registration?

I can only try to help with advice on how I got past the annoying registration.
Maybe setup a native account from your location,then forward or send all of the gift card $ to it.
Maybe working as gift cards,you could give them to yourself as if you are another person?
Other new buyers of Fire TV,feel free to try this method below if you can't get a card as soon as you'd like to.
I used a generated dummy card value to get past the one irratating part.
(I didn't/don't have a card,nor can I get one without going through too much trouble)
I don't remember where I found the site that automatically generates them for use,but I hope you too,can find one that works.
IMHO,the Fire TV setup sucks!
When I first got a Sony NSZ-GS7 last year,it did not require a card in order to get past the setup screen.

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Call Amazon customer support and tell them you can't login on your Fire TV. They'll have you go through a few troubleshooting steps. Once you get to the part where you login, just tell them you're putting in the correct email/password but it says your login is incorrect. Eventually they will try to log you in from their end using the device's serial number. Once they log you in, you'll be able to restart the Fire TV and it will go straight to the home screen.
On a side note, do you trust the person you bought the Fire TV from? I ask because not being able to login, even though the account is valid, is the symptom of a host-file-soft-bricked Fire TV. This happens when the Fire TV is factory reset with a modified host file that is set to block/redirect amazon's servers. There is no way to fix this, as far as I know.

retroben said:
I can only try to help with advice on how I got past the annoying registration.
Maybe setup a native account from your location,then forward or send all of the gift card $ to it.
Maybe working as gift cards,you could give them to yourself as if you are another person?
Other new buyers of Fire TV,feel free to try this method below if you can't get a card as soon as you'd like to.
I used a generated dummy card value to get past the one irratating part.
(I didn't/don't have a card,nor can I get one without going through too much trouble)
I don't remember where I found the site that automatically generates them for use,but I hope you too,can find one that works.
IMHO,the Fire TV setup sucks!
When I first got a Sony NSZ-GS7 last year,it did not require a card in order to get past the setup screen.
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I have tried sending gift card from my local account to the new US account.It does not work.
I have tried to setting it up with generated US Diners and Visa cards etc. It does not work either.
Amazon has locked down their device pretty well...
I have alerted customer support.

thesheep70 said:
I have tried sending gift card from my local account to the new US account.It does not work.
I have tried to setting it up with generated US Diners and Visa cards etc. It does not work either.
Amazon has locked down their device pretty well...
I have alerted customer support.
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i setup a few new accounts from canada right on the FTV on different occasions, they dont ask for a CC at all.. and everything works.. your missing something simple.

hulu plus in the UK ?

do i need to create an account on the aftv and choose the USA region to be able to watch programs from the USA , because it asks for my credit card detals if i select USA , is it safe to put card details in ? or do i just de-register and re- register and choose united kingdom ? thanks

davemaden said:
do i need to create an account on the aftv and choose the USA region to be able to watch programs from the USA , because it asks for my credit card detals if i select USA , is it safe to put card details in ? or do i just de-register and re- register and choose united kingdom ? thanks
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I doubt you can get us content with the us credit card and amazon location change. With these tricks, you can download the apps but they won't work for example sling. To make sling or netflix work, you will have to use the service like unotelly dns etc which costs about $4 a month.

Hi thanks , im using unblockr dns service and have changed my dns settings , i downloaded Hulu plus from amazon for free , so i think it should work , if i choose a film to watch , it plays an ad for about 1 minute , then just get a black screen , do i nee to change anything in amazon account or aftv ? thanks

davemaden said:
Hi thanks , im using unblockr dns service and have changed my dns settings , i downloaded Hulu plus from amazon for free , so i think it should work , if i choose a film to watch , it plays an ad for about 1 minute , then just get a black screen , do i nee to change anything in amazon account or aftv ? thanks
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To get Hulu in the UK, you need a DNS service that can "trick" apps into thinking you are in US, which you have already, and you need to set up your fire tv with an Amazon.com US account. Once you download the app, you can set it back to Amazon.co.uk or any other region you like.
But the key sticking point is that you need a US registered credit card to open a Hulu subscription. Even if you select US when registering and put in a UK credit card, it won't work.
There are services that let you register for a virtual US credit card, but they do require a leap of faith in terms of how much you trust them. I have been using http://www.usunlocked.com/ for a few years now (not to be confused with Unblock-US, the DNS service provider). As I say though, I have had no issues, but I can't guarantee anyone else won't. You have to send quite sensitive info to prove your ID before they can open an account on your behalf (US law).
And their commission can be expensive so you need to factor that in. I used to use it mainly for Netflix and Hulu subs (before Netflix came to UK) and to rent movies from VUDU (app not available on Fire tv sadly). I hardly use it these days to be honest but if you want Hulu, you will need a US credit card.
Or if you know a trusted family member/friend in the US and work out something with them.

iii have a username and password for Hulu plus so should it work with unblockr dns service , it loads ok and plays an ad if i select a film but then get black screen , i set up an amazon.com account and selected USA but i got a warning triangle on my amazon.co.uk account saying that i had a device listed on the .com site , so i have cancelled the account .
Do i need to not open a .co.uk account and open a .com account and register the aftv , then download the app (netflix or hulu) from the .com site to the aftv ? then open a .co.uk account if i wish ? thanks

try some free VPN service maybe DNS is not enough? securitykiss.com offers free 500 MB a day has usa server so you can test it.
Also you gotta have root or router that can change settings and use VPN.

davemaden said:
iii have a username and password for Hulu plus so should it work with unblockr dns service , it loads ok and plays an ad if i select a film but then get black screen , i set up an amazon.com account and selected USA but i got a warning triangle on my amazon.co.uk account saying that i had a device listed on the .com site , so i have cancelled the account .
Do i need to not open a .co.uk account and open a .com account and register the aftv , then download the app (netflix or hulu) from the .com site to the aftv ? then open a .co.uk account if i wish ? thanks
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Apologies didn't realise you already have an active plus account.
I have no experience with Unblockr, but try it on a PC or Mac (change you dns there) and go to hulu.com. If you can play videos (not just the free ones) then there is something wrong with hulu app on fire tv and Unblockr. If you can't play videos, then there is something wrong with your account and/or with Unblockr.
I'm fairly certain that it shouldn't matter what Amazon account you have on your fire tv (US or UK), at least not for hulu. I have a US account and a UK account and any US only apps I downloaded from my US account work when I switch back to my UK account.
Also try patt2k suggestion of a free US VPN just to test if it's Unblockr's fault or not. Also make sure you change your dns to something like 8.8.8.8 (google's dns) before testing as sometimes VPNs and DNS services conflict with each other.

hi thanks for your help . @ eskay993 do you have same e-mail address and password for uk and usa amazon accounts ? as i dont know if im allowed to use two accounts . thanks

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hi thanks for your help . @ eskay993 do you have same e-mail address and password for uk and usa amazon accounts ? as i dont know if im allowed to use two accounts . thanks
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Actually apologies I should have been clearer. I do have 2 accounts, US and UK, with different emails, BUT to get a US apps on my UK account I just change my region on Amazon.co.uk to USA. Then I have access to US apps, download what I need, sync it, then switch it back to UK region. This is all done under the same account, with the same emails. When switching to US region, you need a US address, but you can one from google. Doesn't have to be a legit one and it's only temporary.
There is a guide here: http://www.aftvnews.com/how-to-install-geographically-restricted-apps-from-amazon/

I was having a hard time paying for Hulu tho and got Unblockr. If It worked but I forgot to pay and since its for US I had to search for a long time to find a place that has Hulu gift cards that ship outside of the US and I found this site that ships outside of US with Hulu cards from giftcards2u .com . Im glad I searched this up and thanks for the advice here!

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