I have a htc one m7 on a relatively small Verizon LRA carrier. They do not update software the same time as Verizon as I am still stuck on Android 4.2.2 and sense 5. I have unlocked my Bootloader but afraid to flash custom recovery and root because I will lose ota updates. If I was to flash a custom recovery would custom roms meant for Verizon work on my phone? If so, would certain features not function properly? Someone told me they had success in the past on LRA networks with custom roms but had trouble with mms. Just wondering if anyone else has any experience with this, any input is greatly appreciated.
I've already tried to use Fastboot to just boot the custom recovery to install supersu but HTC has disabled this from happening on my phone.
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This is tricky. I think you'd have to create an image of your current setup (Rom, hboot, firmware, recovery, etc.) Because there aren't any ruu's specifically for your type...just vzw. This is if you were to flash a vzw Rom and it didn't work you'd have something to go back to.
Somebody with more ruu experience might want to chime in.
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Sorry..newbie question. What are the benefits for International One X to get s-off beside installing the custom rom?
I have an S-off One X and an S-off AT&T One X. The At&t, I was be able to install International One XL Rom but I still can not get the International LTE bands running on 1800 and 2600Mhz.
Thanks.
droidan said:
Sorry..newbie question. What are the benefits for International One X to get s-off beside installing the custom rom?
I have an S-off One X and an S-off AT&T One X. The At&t, I was be able to install International One XL Rom but I still can not get the International LTE bands running on 1800 and 2600Mhz.
Thanks.
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With S-Off\super CID you can install any firmware package without being concerned over your specific CID matching and you can also downgrade your firmware if needed which you cannot do with S-ON. Also you dont need to separately flash the boot.img when installing custom roms as you can do all you need in the custom recovery. This means you can download and flash ROMS without using a PC all the time.
Cant comment on the bands issue.
but we were already flashing ROMs without using a PC. It seems like dev's circumvented S-OFF for the AT&T One X completely. That's why i don't understand why it was needed. I'm S-OFF just to have it, but still not exactly sure why i need it when the AT&T One X was already able to do anything that any other phone has been doing, custom ROM/kernel-wise.
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but we were already flashing ROMs without using a PC. It seems like dev's circumvented S-OFF for the AT&T One X completely. That's why i don't understand why it was needed. I'm S-OFF just to have it, but still not exactly sure why i need it when the AT&T One X was already able to do anything that any other phone has been doing, custom ROM/kernel-wise.
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I cant comment on the AT&T One X but the international needs S-OFF to be able to set Super CID, this enables you to choose which firmware you want without any ties to when its released for your specific CID. You need it if you want to downgrade your firmware for any reason and you need it to be able to flash the boot.img from any custom ROM via custom recovery without needing a PC to do it via fastboot.
To be fair if you can get over the annoyance of having to wait for official firmware upgrades for your particular phone an S-ON device isnt a great deal different. Of course its nice to have the flexibility as you say )
OK. I'm a little bit lost in the HTC world!
I've had a Samsung Galaxy Note II for the last year and have just replaced it with the HTC ONE (M8). I found the whole rooting and ROM procedure relatively straight forward with the Note II. In a nutshell you:
1) Rooted with a Windows based application
2) Installed / Flashed a recovery system
3) Flashed a custom ROM using a Windows based application called ODIN
And that was that. Pretty straightforward. Having had a nose around the HTC forum it's awash with clever folk using abbreviations and acronyms like CID, RUU and S-OFF...!
My M8 is on EE network in the UK which I know is CID ORANG001. What I would like though is to convert my M8 to a generic European M8 so I can receive the latest HTC updates rather then await EE to push out their version. This therefore prompts me to ask the following questions:
1) Is this something we will be able to achieve?
2) What is the (potential) process to achieve this (assuming something similar for the M7 already exists)?
2) Will over the air updates work?
I've read numerous posts which seem contradicting. Some talk about a simple change of the CID others mention S-OFF as the GOD of everything related to the subject. If I were to guess, changing the CID seems too simple, but I'm guessing once changed to a generic EU CID it's possible to receive HTC's OTA updates? Or am I wrong there? Or having another guess I would assume I'd need to go down the lines similar to Samsung process of rooting or S-OFF (security off?) and flashing a generic stock EU ROM?
So what CAN currently be achieved and what CAN'T currently be achieved?
I guess I could do with a little background on these processes and the terminology used.
Any help, greatly appreciated.
Can :
Unlock the bootloader and flash a custom recovery to install a custom rom based on the latest firmware. You are depending on rom updates from the dev if he updates it to the latest software/firmware
Can't :
S-off
Change cid
Get ota via another rom
Run a ruu because they are simply not available
So to receive ota you need your original stock rom. And before you start messing around please make a stock nandroid backup and store it !
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2701376
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OK. I'm a little bit lost in the HTC world!
I've had a Samsung Galaxy Note II for the last year and have just replaced it with the HTC ONE (M8). I found the whole rooting and ROM procedure relatively straight forward with the Note II. In a nutshell you:
1) Rooted with a Windows based application
2) Installed / Flashed a recovery system
3) Flashed a custom ROM using a Windows based application called ODIN
And that was that. Pretty straightforward. Having had a nose around the HTC forum it's awash with clever folk using abbreviations and acronyms like CID, RUU and S-OFF...!
My M8 is on EE network in the UK which I know is CID ORANG001. What I would like though is to convert my M8 to a generic European M8 so I can receive the latest HTC updates rather then await EE to push out their version. This therefore prompts me to ask the following questions:
1) Is this something we will be able to achieve?
2) What is the (potential) process to achieve this (assuming something similar for the M7 already exists)?
2) Will over the air updates work?
I've read numerous posts which seem contradicting. Some talk about a simple change of the CID others mention S-OFF as the GOD of everything related to the subject. If I were to guess, changing the CID seems too simple, but I'm guessing once changed to a generic EU CID it's possible to receive HTC's OTA updates? Or am I wrong there? Or having another guess I would assume I'd need to go down the lines similar to Samsung process of rooting or S-OFF (security off?) and flashing a generic stock EU ROM?
So what CAN currently be achieved and what CAN'T currently be achieved?
I guess I could do with a little background on these processes and the terminology used.
Any help, greatly appreciated.
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Also not familiar anymore with HTC. After reading and reading and still not finding the exact answers to my questions, so I simply (after unlocking and flash TWRP recovery and backing up) tried to flash Virtuous ROM (1.54.401.5) over my German o2 device (1.12.206.17, CID O2___001). Everything worked except WiFi, so I tried a last call with mikes ARHD Rom 3.1, before going back to stock. And this ROM works brilliantly!
But I would also be happy if the OP questions could be answered...
@Mr Hofs
1. the WiFi problem discribed above could be firmware related?
2. When my Provider o2 brings out an update with firmware, can I simply relock bootloader and push the (perhaps) available firmware.zip it to the device via fastboot like mike explains in his firmware thread?
Edit :
Well that would be weird as both roms the OP flashed are based on 1.54.401 so i would say no.....
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Can :
Unlock the bootloader and flash a custom recovery to install a custom rom based on the latest firmware. You are depending on rom updates from the dev if he updates it to the latest software/firmware
Can't :
S-off
Change cid
Get ota via another rom
Run a ruu because they are simply not available
So to receive ota you need your original stock rom. And before you start messing around please make a stock nandroid backup and store it !
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2701376
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OK thanks. Few more questions if I may.
So from the "can't" list, IF we can get the ability to change CID and have S-OFF in the future, would it provide the ability to receive OTA updates when HTC push them out, or are OTA updates simply out of the game entirely?
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Yes that should be possible , all you need then is
Changed cid
Stock rom
Stock kernel
Stock recovery
Or the ruu (if available)
Then the phone is ready for ota updates.
Mr Hofs said:
Yes that should be possible , all you need then is
Changed cid
Stock rom
Stock kernel
Stock recovery
Or the ruu (if available)
Then the phone is ready for ota updates.
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Great thanks. Last question then, what is RUU?
I'll keep your thread bookmarked and attempt to get a backup in there.
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A ruu is a Rom Update Utility and it contains the rom, kernel, firmware, recovery (and some more stuff). When a ruu is installed its like the phone is factory stock.
Mr Hofs said:
A ruu is a Rom Update Utility and it contains the rom, kernel, firmware, recovery (and some more stuff). When a ruu is installed its like the phone is factory stock.
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OK brilliant thanks. Really appreciate your help.
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HI,
Planning to pick up a T-Mobile M8 - don't particularly care for the stuff T-Nobile puts on phones. My old Note 2 came loaded with software etc that I didn't need, apparently, the Note 3 has all sorts of security software in addition to t-mobile goodies. Before, I used to just flash a 3rd party rom and be done with it.
Now, I have my company emails running on my phone, and the secure software refuses to be installed on "tampered" devices, rooted/jail-broken etc.
How easy or difficult is it to flash an internation sense rom on the M8 - is it even possible?. And, can it be done without needing to Root the phone?.
Riz
Anyone?.
Found this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2356401 for another HTC phone
I got tired of waiting for AT&T to release updates for the HTC One and now that we have S-OFF and SuperCID I decided to look into converting my HTC One into an International edition so that I can flash an international ROM and receive OTAs more rapidly.
I would love to flash ARHD, Trickdroid and etc, however I use my phone for work and our security software will detect if the phone is rooted or has a modified OS installed so I needed to stick to stock in order to pass all security checks.
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Is there any similar way for the M8?.
Thanks.
Riz
Grab a stock nandroid for the international version and a stock recovery for it. Restore the nandroid and flash the stock recovery and reboot. You can change your cid to the International cid or super cid. The ota will work either way.
There's a thread with stock backups in the general section
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exad said:
Grab a stock nandroid for the international version and a stock recovery for it. Restore the nandroid and flash the stock recovery and reboot. You can change your cid to the International cid or super cid. The ota will work either way.
There's a thread with stock backups in the general section
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Thanks for the reply exad.
Would flashing the recovery in any way make the phone appear tampered ?.
MobileIron, the corporate email tool we use is quite finicky - I had to give up my Note 3 as it had been rooted (and had the Knox counter tripped), even flashing it back to stock and unrooting didn't make it fit for mobileiron - so I'm a bit wary of making the m8 unfit as well.
Also, how do we flash nandroids and recoveries in the htc world?..I've spent far too long with Samsung's and not sure how things work on htcs..
Riz
You need to bootloader unlock so yes your bootloader will show it has been tampered. There is a way to hide this with S-off if your phone can achieve s-off. But that doesn't mean your software will necessarily work properly.
I've never owned a Samsung device but it must be quite different as it is my experience on these forums that people who claim to have rooted Samsung phones in the past seem to have no idea what recovery, kernel, adb, fastboot are or even what superuser entails.
I could explain everything to you but I'm not that nice. Everything is explained in the m8 forums if you read all stickies in all sections and actually try to understand the concepts rather than just start following guides blindly, you'll do just fine.
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Hey M8 forums,
My S4 recently self destructed and I'm jumping ship to the M8 for T-Mo USA, I have a couple questions to prepare for it's arrival.
I'm coming off the S4 CM12 nightlies, are the M8 builds unified? As in, I can flash the standard CM release on my T-Mo variant?
And can I please get a link to the unlocking and rooting thread? The one I found has a method, but for s-off, the link seems to be down.
Thanks and greetings!
Most info can be found here,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2711073
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As far as CM goes, I'm not familiar with T-Mobile variants... Sorry. ☺
As of now the M8 in cyanogenmod is unified, all the GSM variants are just labelled as "m8". and the CDMA variants have other names like cm-20140120-m8vzw for verizon.
Onto the rooting and unlocking, you can unlock using HTC Dev but S-OFF might be a little impossible if you get the m8 pre-installed with 4.4.4.
Honestly, to root all you need to do is unlock using the HTC Dev site and flash a custom recovery from TWRP or CWM.
then flash SuperSU not all that different from a Nexus.
Darth said:
Most info can be found here,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2711073
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Thanks for the dump, lots of good info in there.
i4GS said:
As of now the M8 in cyanogenmod is unified, all the GSM variants are just labelled as "m8". and the CDMA variants have other names like cm-20140120-m8vzw for verizon.
Onto the rooting and unlocking, you can unlock using HTC Dev but S-OFF might be a little impossible if you get the m8 pre-installed with 4.4.4.
Honestly, to root all you need to do is unlock using the HTC Dev site and flash a custom recovery from TWRP or CWM.
then flash SuperSU not all that different from a Nexus.
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I bought it off a guy that bought it a few weeks ago I believe, I haven't gotten it yet to see. It was my understanding that SunShine works on all M8's up to Lollipop. Is that not the case?
And what is a firmware? I keep seeing around to flash the Lollipop firmware, is that just the radio.img file or the whole RUU or what?
A firmware could be reffered to a whole RUU , because the ZIP that updates from 1.x to 3.x is a firmware.
Essentially a Firmware contains the essentials for a basic update (HTC version) , Radio, boot, Kernel, Bootloader, modem, etc.
An Update Firmware or RUU will contain all the partitions ,
boot, system, bootloader,hboot,modem,radio, cache, recovery , and so on.
And to some sunshine will work and to some it might not, it's a risk you're going to have to take, (to get s-off) worth it.
Though we shouldn't have to go through all these cracks and breaks to get it.
I used an older method and it worked for me, never had to use sunshine.
i4GS said:
A firmware could be reffered to a whole RUU , because the ZIP that updates from 1.x to 3.x is a firmware.
Essentially a Firmware contains the essentials for a basic update (HTC version) , Radio, boot, Kernel, Bootloader, modem, etc.
An Update Firmware or RUU will contain all the partitions ,
boot, system, bootloader,hboot,modem,radio, cache, recovery , and so on.
And to some sunshine will work and to some it might not, it's a risk you're going to have to take, (to get s-off) worth it.
Though we shouldn't have to go through all these cracks and breaks to get it.
I used an older method and it worked for me, never had to use sunshine.
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I was told that the older method ceased to work because it required a server connection to complete that is no longer up. And would using a RUU to get to Lollipop put the system back to S-On?
Flashing anything won't touch the S-OFF. You'd have to manually set that back to S-ON (but why would you want to do that!)
I am quite the idiot when it comes to custom roms and such, so i apologize in advance for my lack of knowledge. Anyways, I had CM13 for quite some time before this and was using twrp. In my adventures of installing my first custom rom I had thought I needed to re-lock my boot loader, so because of this i no longer has s-off. I used sunshine to achieve s-off in the first place and needed to go back to a stock rom to repeat the process. along with this I had gps problems on my custom rom and had read that i need to go back to stock. I looked on the internet to find a twrp flash able rom, that would do such. (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2694994) I was unaware that this would get rid of my custom recovery (again, sorry for my stupidity) and now my screen is stuck on black when I try to boot up the phone, I am incapable of reverting back to my custom rom, and as I noted before, I have a locked boot loader. Everything I have looked for on the internet requires s-off. Is there any possible way re achieve s-off with out a functioning os (I can still access the stock bootloader) or am I just screwed?
Thank You for the help!
P.S. I have the Verizon variant.
Your biggest mistake here is installed wrong ROM on wrong device.
You shouldn't install a GSM stock ROM on a CDMA device, for your case is Verizon.
Search Verizon thread for RUU ..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...pment/stock-m-firmware-nand-recovery-t3330972
read the last post in this thread
ckpv5 said:
Your biggest mistake here is installed wrong ROM on wrong device.
You shouldn't install a GSM stock ROM on a CDMA device, for your case is Verizon.
Search Verizon thread for RUU ..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...pment/stock-m-firmware-nand-recovery-t3330972
read the last post in this thread
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Thanks for the help! I found an 0PGBIMG for the lollipop Verizon Rom and from there I could reinstall TWRP and then finally a GPE Verizon rom. I really appreciate the response, I didn't really expect one to and I'm glad I could receive your input! :good: