Sorry..newbie question. What are the benefits for International One X to get s-off beside installing the custom rom?
I have an S-off One X and an S-off AT&T One X. The At&t, I was be able to install International One XL Rom but I still can not get the International LTE bands running on 1800 and 2600Mhz.
Thanks.
droidan said:
Sorry..newbie question. What are the benefits for International One X to get s-off beside installing the custom rom?
I have an S-off One X and an S-off AT&T One X. The At&t, I was be able to install International One XL Rom but I still can not get the International LTE bands running on 1800 and 2600Mhz.
Thanks.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
With S-Off\super CID you can install any firmware package without being concerned over your specific CID matching and you can also downgrade your firmware if needed which you cannot do with S-ON. Also you dont need to separately flash the boot.img when installing custom roms as you can do all you need in the custom recovery. This means you can download and flash ROMS without using a PC all the time.
Cant comment on the bands issue.
but we were already flashing ROMs without using a PC. It seems like dev's circumvented S-OFF for the AT&T One X completely. That's why i don't understand why it was needed. I'm S-OFF just to have it, but still not exactly sure why i need it when the AT&T One X was already able to do anything that any other phone has been doing, custom ROM/kernel-wise.
BootlegSnackz said:
but we were already flashing ROMs without using a PC. It seems like dev's circumvented S-OFF for the AT&T One X completely. That's why i don't understand why it was needed. I'm S-OFF just to have it, but still not exactly sure why i need it when the AT&T One X was already able to do anything that any other phone has been doing, custom ROM/kernel-wise.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I cant comment on the AT&T One X but the international needs S-OFF to be able to set Super CID, this enables you to choose which firmware you want without any ties to when its released for your specific CID. You need it if you want to downgrade your firmware for any reason and you need it to be able to flash the boot.img from any custom ROM via custom recovery without needing a PC to do it via fastboot.
To be fair if you can get over the annoyance of having to wait for official firmware upgrades for your particular phone an S-ON device isnt a great deal different. Of course its nice to have the flexibility as you say )
Related
Hi,
I purchased a new HTC One X from France (I have a friend there), and it came in french and with some apps of SFR (a french cellular company).
I want an official ROM of HTC but without all those apps, and with Hebrew support.
I saw this page with stock ROMs, but how do I know which one is suitable for me?
And can I install a stock ROM that did not come originally with my phone?
I am new to Android and smartphones in general, so please be patient with me (I'm a quick learner though).
Thank you.
Download cidgetter from the play store, that app will let you know your cid. My hox is unbranded with cid 401.
When you know your cid go to the page with the ruus and look for one with your cid in the version number.
Remember though you can only use a ruu with same or higher version number
You can't change region or carrier unless you have an s-off hox
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium
OK, my CID is VODAP203. What does it mean?
And what is s-off hox, and how do I get that?
(Simply, all I want to do is to reset my phone to factory's settings but like a not-branded one and with Hebrew support, as if I bought the phone from my country).
Thanks in advance.
ps: is there any detailed guide which explain all those terms and how to install a new ROM and all this stuff...?
Go to this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=23542734
Tell them your cid and some 1 should be able to guide you to the relevent ruu for your cid, that will get you back to stock factory settings.
You can't change cid unless you are lucky enough to have a s-off hox (s-off = security-off) so your best bet if your not bothered about warranty is flashing a custom Rom with all the bloat removed.
Go to this thread for all you need to know about flashing a custom rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30471180
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium
You can only use RUUs from Vodafone France - you can't use a stock ROM unless you go custom
bogfather said:
Tell them your cid and some 1 should be able to guide you to the relevent ruu for your cid, that will get you back to stock factory settings.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That will get me back to factory settings but it will be exactly like I have it now (mine is brand new), right?
I don't want it like I got it, I want it as if it wasn't branded (like another region).
EddyOS said:
You can only use RUUs from Vodafone France - you can't use a stock ROM unless you go custom
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't understand something, I can't use a stock RUU but a custom one I can??
What do I need to do to get an official ROM (General, not branded, like pure HTC official ROM)?
Thanks...
You can't until we gain s-off, that's why if you want rid of all the bloat ware on your phone you will have to go custom rom or root and uninstall the bloatware yourself
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium
LionGod8 said:
That will get me back to factory settings but it will be exactly like I have it now (mine is brand new), right?
I don't want it like I got it, I want it as if it wasn't branded (like another region).
I don't understand something, I can't use a stock RUU but a custom one I can??
What do I need to do to get an official ROM (General, not branded, like pure HTC official ROM)?
Thanks...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm going to assume the lest complicated situation, you have a regular HTC One X that is S-ON, but that you've managed to unlock your bootloader and root your phone. From browsing around it seems like the most standard starting point.
I think you are right; it's a little weird that you can only use the RUU (what HTC provides as a stock / factory ROM) from where the phone was intended to be used. I guess this makes some sense: you can manufacture custom configurations of the phone per clients markets (i.e. US Telcos may want two types, a delux version and a stripped down cheaper version) so HTC makes sure to configure the phones differently. If you have different phones, then you need to ensure each works as it should out of the box, so two different ROMs might be required where each stock ROM is optimized for use with the phone configuration as dictated by the CID (does CID - configuration identifier??). So for most of us, the RUU that's available to us is strictly determined by the phone CID.
So why not create a super RUU that is so awesome that it could determine what the physical and software configuration of the phone is and permit only the compatible features? Are HTC developers too lazy?? Maybe, I don't know, I'm not a developer. So enter the custom ROM. A kind of super RUU IMHO that allows for more customization based on the talents of the developer(s) who often design these things for free, on their own time, and although not obligated one bit to support or update them, do so anyway.
So there you have it, you are stuck with the RUU that is compatible only with your CID, or you can research the various custom ROMs that exist and try them out.
Good luck and have fun with it.
hi guys. yesterday i unlocked my bootloader and rooted my m8. is a unbranded cid_332. i made a nandroid backup too.
no s-off yet. what i want is to change my ROM to another that is already at 4.4.4 version and can receive faster updates from htc, how can i do that?
another thing is my m8 doesnt connect to 4g network, but in the box it says that is 2600mhz compatible, if i change the radio will it work?
also i want to try viper and insertcoin roms but later i want to go back to stock but with another cid to receive faster updates.
thanks.
leandronb said:
hi guys. yesterday i unlocked my bootloader and rooted my m8. is a unbranded cid_332. i made a nandroid backup too.
no s-off yet. what i want is to change my ROM to another that is already at 4.4.4 version and can receive faster updates from htc, how can i do that?
another thing is my m8 doesnt connect to 4g network, but in the box it says that is 2600mhz compatible, if i change the radio will it work?
also i want to try viper and insertcoin roms but later i want to go back to stock but with another cid to receive faster updates.
thanks.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Method to get fastest updates would probably be to s-off and fully convert to GPE.
When you say 4G, you mean HSPA or LTE?
Being able to get OTA is pretty different from being able to flash custom ROMs. Namely, you need custom recovery to flash custom ROMs. And you need to have a stock ROM and stock recovery to install OTAs. So flip-flopping back and forth is not that straightforward. I'd suggest picking one and sticking with it.
redpoint73 said:
Method to get fastest updates would probably be to s-off and fully convert to GPE.
When you say 4G, you mean HSPA or LTE?
Being able to get OTA is pretty different from being able to flash custom ROMs. Namely, you need custom recovery to flash custom ROMs. And you need to have a stock ROM and stock recovery to install OTAs. So flip-flopping back and forth is not that straightforward. I'd suggest picking one and sticking with it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i mean LTE. right now i just reverted to stock rom and stock kernel. my device is not possible to have s-off wven with sunshine.
i wanted to s-off, change my CID to another one like dev edition or international unlocked, change rom to unlocked edition and then flash stock recovery from unlocked to being able to receive OTA faster.
is like change my htc m8 variant from cid_332 to cid_001
leandronb said:
i mean LTE. right now i just reverted to stock rom and stock kernel. my device is not possible to have s-off wven with sunshine.
i wanted to s-off, change my CID to another one like dev edition or international unlocked, change rom to unlocked edition and then flash stock recovery from unlocked to being able to receive OTA faster.
is like change my htc m8 variant from cid_332 to cid_001
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sunshine only works on the stock ROM, if I'm not mistaken. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure.
xunholyx said:
Sunshine only works on the stock ROM, if I'm not mistaken. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i was stock, just rooted. i think in version 3.0 will work. i was too excited to convert to gpe and try lollipop.
leandronb said:
i was stock, just rooted. i think in version 3.0 will work. i was too excited to convert to gpe and try lollipop.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The GPE models won't be getting Lollipop for a couple of weeks, maybe a month or more.
It hasn't been pushed to the Nexus devices yet, either. Probably a a few days to a week or so for that.
Hey M8 forums,
My S4 recently self destructed and I'm jumping ship to the M8 for T-Mo USA, I have a couple questions to prepare for it's arrival.
I'm coming off the S4 CM12 nightlies, are the M8 builds unified? As in, I can flash the standard CM release on my T-Mo variant?
And can I please get a link to the unlocking and rooting thread? The one I found has a method, but for s-off, the link seems to be down.
Thanks and greetings!
Most info can be found here,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2711073
?
As far as CM goes, I'm not familiar with T-Mobile variants... Sorry. ☺
As of now the M8 in cyanogenmod is unified, all the GSM variants are just labelled as "m8". and the CDMA variants have other names like cm-20140120-m8vzw for verizon.
Onto the rooting and unlocking, you can unlock using HTC Dev but S-OFF might be a little impossible if you get the m8 pre-installed with 4.4.4.
Honestly, to root all you need to do is unlock using the HTC Dev site and flash a custom recovery from TWRP or CWM.
then flash SuperSU not all that different from a Nexus.
Darth said:
Most info can be found here,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2711073
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for the dump, lots of good info in there.
i4GS said:
As of now the M8 in cyanogenmod is unified, all the GSM variants are just labelled as "m8". and the CDMA variants have other names like cm-20140120-m8vzw for verizon.
Onto the rooting and unlocking, you can unlock using HTC Dev but S-OFF might be a little impossible if you get the m8 pre-installed with 4.4.4.
Honestly, to root all you need to do is unlock using the HTC Dev site and flash a custom recovery from TWRP or CWM.
then flash SuperSU not all that different from a Nexus.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I bought it off a guy that bought it a few weeks ago I believe, I haven't gotten it yet to see. It was my understanding that SunShine works on all M8's up to Lollipop. Is that not the case?
And what is a firmware? I keep seeing around to flash the Lollipop firmware, is that just the radio.img file or the whole RUU or what?
A firmware could be reffered to a whole RUU , because the ZIP that updates from 1.x to 3.x is a firmware.
Essentially a Firmware contains the essentials for a basic update (HTC version) , Radio, boot, Kernel, Bootloader, modem, etc.
An Update Firmware or RUU will contain all the partitions ,
boot, system, bootloader,hboot,modem,radio, cache, recovery , and so on.
And to some sunshine will work and to some it might not, it's a risk you're going to have to take, (to get s-off) worth it.
Though we shouldn't have to go through all these cracks and breaks to get it.
I used an older method and it worked for me, never had to use sunshine.
i4GS said:
A firmware could be reffered to a whole RUU , because the ZIP that updates from 1.x to 3.x is a firmware.
Essentially a Firmware contains the essentials for a basic update (HTC version) , Radio, boot, Kernel, Bootloader, modem, etc.
An Update Firmware or RUU will contain all the partitions ,
boot, system, bootloader,hboot,modem,radio, cache, recovery , and so on.
And to some sunshine will work and to some it might not, it's a risk you're going to have to take, (to get s-off) worth it.
Though we shouldn't have to go through all these cracks and breaks to get it.
I used an older method and it worked for me, never had to use sunshine.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I was told that the older method ceased to work because it required a server connection to complete that is no longer up. And would using a RUU to get to Lollipop put the system back to S-On?
Flashing anything won't touch the S-OFF. You'd have to manually set that back to S-ON (but why would you want to do that!)
I bought a refurbished, factory unlocked HTC one m8 off eBay in February. I just got my hands on it last week. I live in India.
I have some experience with rooting the phone and installing custom rims. I'm currently using the HTC one m7 with ViperOne 8.0.0 on top.
I have a few questions that I need to find the answer to before I do anything on the m8.
1. What are the methods to s-off the phone?
Bootloader unlocked using htcdev
Hboot version is - 3.16
Running stock Rom 4.4.2, that I'm assuming comes with an at&t m8
2. Do I need to flash a firmware/radio for the phone to work in India?
3. Do I need to be looking at custom roms made specifically for the at&t version? Or can I flash any Rom built for the international version?
4. Is there a way to convert the phone to an international firmware/radio, etc. So I can flash Rom/mod meant for international version?
I'm not sure I explained my questions correctly, please ask if further info/explanation is required
thetearer said:
I bought a refurbished, factory unlocked HTC one m8 off eBay in February. I just got my hands on it last week. I live in India.
I have some experience with rooting the phone and installing custom rims. I'm currently using the HTC one m7 with ViperOne 8.0.0 on top.
I have a few questions that I need to find the answer to before I do anything on the m8.
1. What are the methods to s-off the phone?
Bootloader unlocked using htcdev
Hboot version is - 3.16
Running stock Rom 4.4.2, that I'm assuming comes with an at&t m8
2. Do I need to flash a firmware/radio for the phone to work in India?
3. Do I need to be looking at custom roms made specifically for the at&t version? Or can I flash any Rom built for the international version?
4. Is there a way to convert the phone to an international firmware/radio, etc. So I can flash Rom/mod meant for international version?
I'm not sure I explained my questions correctly, please ask if further info/explanation is required
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
And you be flashing Viper again I assume.
You'll need to use Sunshine S-Off. It cost $25, but it is guaranteed to work. They run a diagnostic check to make sure, and only ask for the payment then.
Once you are S-Off, you can go superCID and flash the 4.16.401.10 RUU, or flash the same version firmware.
In your situation, I would run the RUU instead of just flashing the firmware. Just my opinion. You could probably just flash the firmware at that point. The RUU is always the safest method though.
xunholyx said:
And you be flashing Viper again I assume.
You'll need to use Sunshine S-Off. It cost $25, but it is guaranteed to work. They run a diagnostic check to make sure, and only ask for the payment then.
Once you are S-Off, you can go superCID and flash the 4.16.401.10 RUU, or flash the same version firmware.
In your situation, I would run the RUU instead of just flashing the firmware. Just my opinion. You could probably just flash the firmware at that point. The RUU is always the safest method though.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I most probably will be flashing viperone
Though I might have multi Rom set up on it
Thanks for the answer btw!
Just one more question, what is superCID?
thetearer said:
2. Do I need to flash a firmware/radio for the phone to work in India?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It depends on whether the bands needed to work on your carrier (3G and LTE, if applicable) are already supported by the AT&T version. If not, then you need to flash a radio that does support your carrier's bands.
i know this question has been asked alot on different forums but i am using htc one m8 distributed by 3 ireland. its on s-on and updated to marshmallow and i want to know best method to get s-of on latest hboot??? please suggest methods other then sunshine!!
There is no other method than sunshine.
Firewater
Saleen28 said:
There is no other method than sunshine.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
what about firewater method??
hassanulhaq said:
what about firewater method??
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Firewater no longer working
hassanulhaq said:
what about firewater method??
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sunshine is the only current working method. That was already stated, and ignoring that statement and trying to offer up other (obsolete) methods is just wishful thinking.
Firewater stopped working once the devs (same devs as sunshine) stopped supporting its online component (needed for it to work) in Dev 2014.
What do you think you need s-off for? Its not needed for most mods, such as root, custom recovery, flashing custom ROMs, flashing kernels, and a great many things.
What s-off is needed for, is to flash modified hboots, manually flashing radios, changing CID/MID, and a few other things. But for most folks, s-on and unlocked bootloader is just fine.
m10 port on m8
redpoint73 said:
Sunshine is the only current working method. That was already stated, and ignoring that statement and trying to offer up other (obsolete) methods is just wishful thinking.
Firewater stopped working once the devs (same devs as sunshine) stopped supporting its online component (needed for it to work) in Dev 2014.
What do you think you need s-off for? Its not needed for most mods, such as root, custom recovery, flashing custom ROMs, flashing kernels, and a great many things.
What s-off is needed for, is to flash modified hboots, manually flashing radios, changing CID/MID, and a few other things. But for most folks, s-on and unlocked bootloader is just fine.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i want to install m10 prot on m8 and i think it needed to be on s-off to change complete rom!!
hassanulhaq said:
i want to install m10 prot on m8 and i think it needed to be on s-off to change complete rom!!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
no
if you want to flash a custom rom you are fine with s-on device ( as mentioned above )
and it's more protected than s-off device ( for beginner )
about the HTC 10 ported rom ( s-rom or ViperOneM8 ) are fine with s-on
GOOD LUCK
Sent from my HTC M8 using XDA Labs
ahmed.ismael said:
no
if you want to flash a custom rom you are fine with s-on device ( as mentioned above )
and it's more protected than s-off device ( for beginner )
about the HTC 10 ported rom ( s-rom or ViperOneM8 ) are fine with s-on
GOOD LUCK
Sent from my HTC M8 using XDA Labs
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
ok last thing off topic can you let me know how to enable htc Qualcomm diag mode?? i want to add lte band. i already successfully added in my lg g3 but i cant get htc m8 into diag mode.
hassanulhaq said:
ok last thing off topic can you let me know how to enable htc Qualcomm diag mode?? i want to add lte band. i already successfully added in my lg g3 but i cant get htc m8 into diag mode.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
to be honest i don't know what you asking for
but as you speak about LTE bands we should calling @redpoint73
as I believe he can answer your questions
forgive my little knowledge
Sent from my HTC M8 using XDA Labs
hassanulhaq said:
ok last thing off topic can you let me know how to enable htc Qualcomm diag mode?? i want to add lte band. i already successfully added in my lg g3 but i cant get htc m8 into diag mode.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This doesn't work unless you have a CDMA version of the M8, which yours is not.
You can try to flash the radio firmware with the version of the M8 that supports the desire LTE band. This does require s-off. However, I've seen a lot of cases where it still won't work (LTE band not working on a particular carrier, even after flashing the radio that supports it). So money spent on sunshine s-off may be wasted.
You should have bought the M8 version with the proper LTE band support, preferably intended for your specific region/carrier, if that is availab.e.
redpoint73 said:
This doesn't work unless you have a CDMA version of the M8, which yours is not.
You can try to flash the radio firmware with the version of the M8 that supports the desire LTE band. This does require s-off. However, I've seen a lot of cases where it still won't work (LTE band not working on a particular carrier, even after flashing the radio that supports it). So money spent on sunshine s-off may be wasted.
You should have bought the M8 version with the proper LTE band support, preferably intended for your specific region/carrier, if that is availab.e.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I am not talking about radio flash method which is widely use for samsung and lg devices in which bands are ediited QXDM. To qxdm i need to put cell in qualamcom diag mode. Lg and samsung have codes but htc has no code. I want to know is there any way i can put my cell in that mode.
hassanulhaq said:
I am not talking about radio flash method which is widely use for samsung and lg devices in which bands are ediited QXDM. To qxdm i need to put cell in qualamcom diag mode. Lg and samsung have codes but htc has no code. I want to know is there any way i can put my cell in that mode.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I know exactly what you are talking about. And it won't work on your device. You can put the phone in diag mode, and change the NV values. But on the "GSM" version M8 (most any version except CDMA Verizon version, even Sprint has been reported to not work) the changes won't stick when you reboot.
What you can do with your version M8, is flash a different radio if you have s-off (may need to change CID/MID depending on what radio/firmware you flash). So that is why I mentioned that method.