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What's the difference between class? I see class 10 and class 4, class 4 is a lot cheaper then 10 but what's the actual difference? Does class 10 transfer files faster or something?
and also can anybody recommend a good screen protector? I had one come free with my case on eBay but it doesn't even fit the whole screen
Thanks all
Class refers to the minimum read/write speed in MB/sec. Reputable brands actually adhere to these speeds while others are relatively meaningless.
As stated above for SD cards.
And for screen protectors, get Xtreme guards, simoly looked amazing in my One X. Waiting for them to come in the mail for the S3 now.
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Does it really matter though?
SD speed?
Depends on what you do with that card.
If it's a big card and you often transfer large files to and from it, transfer speed does matter.
If you record HD videos directly to your sd card and your card isn't fast enough your video might stutter or have artifacts.
If you put games on your SD card and those games depend on high transfer rates, you might get lag.
But since the S3 has at least 16GB of internal memory you should have enough space to put stuff that need high transfer rates to your fast internal memory.
A class 2 or 4 sd card should suffice for most people. If you need the high transfer rates though, you'll have to go with a faster card.
Cards get memory lag which means they slower to access files when they filled with a load of files, so ignore the class ratings because a decent quality Class 4 works better in everyday use than a cheap Class 10 even if it can potentially transfer faster.
And files for a phone aren't usually neatly lined up so easily the best value card is Class 6 or 10 SanDisk Ultra then you know your phone can handle anything you throw at it.
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SD speed?
Depends on what you do with that card.
If it's a big card and you often transfer large files to and from it, transfer speed does matter.
If you record HD videos directly to your sd card and your card isn't fast enough your video might stutter or have artifacts.
If you put games on your SD card and those games depend on high transfer rates, you might get lag.
But since the S3 has at least 16GB of internal memory you should have enough space to put stuff that need high transfer rates to your fast internal memory.
A class 2 or 4 sd card should suffice for most people. If you need the high transfer rates though, you'll have to go with a faster card.
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Ahh okay, I plan on watching movies and stuff I'll just go with the class 10 over the cheaper one I just wanted to know how it would affect phone use
I'm going to get this I think:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sandisk-U...ain_3&hash=item4abb2020b8&_uhb=1#ht_500wt_969
16gb is more then enough for me plus the 11gb I have in my internal storage
UrbanDesigns said:
Ahh okay, I plan on watching movies and stuff I'll just go with the class 10 over the cheaper one I just wanted to know how it would affect phone use
I'm going to get this I think:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sandisk-U...ain_3&hash=item4abb2020b8&_uhb=1#ht_500wt_969
16gb is more then enough for me plus the 11gb I have in my internal storage
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Look for a seller with a much higher feedback because there's a serious chance you could get scammed with a fake card there.
But if you find a genuine one that is a good one, but personally I'd spend a bit more for the 32gb card then you know you've always got enough space if your needs change.
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Look for a seller with a much higher feedback because there's a serious chance you could get scammed with a fake card there.
But if you find a genuine one that is a good one, but personally I'd spend a bit more for the 32gb card then you know you've always got enough space if your needs change.
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Oh yeah I just saw the feedback, how can I see if it's fake? I'd definitely return the card if it turned out to be fake..
I looked at his feedback and 2 people have said the cards were good
UrbanDesigns said:
Oh yeah I just saw the feedback, how can I see if it's fake? I'd definitely return the card if it turned out to be fake..
I looked at his feedback and 2 people have said the cards were good
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People setup new accounts and build up a few hundred fake feedback pm more people are likely to buy from them, I mean I'm not saying by any means this is a scammer but just find another seller with feedback in the thousands to be more safe.
And the only way to tell if it's a fake is run a benchmark in your computer and check the card and packaging look real compared to pictures.
If you only want to watch movies a class10 is probably overkill. The problem is when you want to use the camera to record 1080p movies.
There is a difference between write and read speeds of flash memory like sd cards. They usually are pretty fast when it comes to reading but writing speed is another matter.
You should be fine with a good class4 card like one from sandisk.
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If you only want to watch movies a class10 is probably overkill. The problem is when you want to use the camera to record 1080p movies.
There is a difference between write and read speeds of flash memory like sd cards. They usually are pretty fast when it comes to reading but writing speed is another matter.
You should be fine with a good class4 card like one from sandisk.
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what about writing to my internal and copying over to my SD if I need to?
Writing from your internal to your external memory will be as slow/fast as writing from a cardreader to your sd card. Depending on the writing speed of said card.
When your sd card is too slow for direct 1080p recording your suggestion is a valid way to record those videos without lag. Record onto the fast internal memory and then move it to the slower external memory when you need space on the internal one. The sd card will still be fast enough to play the video.
Would be annoying if you had to do that a lot, though. If that's the case you should spend the extra money for a faster sd card.
I have no idea how fast that card has to be. I never had a device that can record in 1080p. However, I'm using an htc hd2 and run most of my apps(including games) from my sd card and in the beginning even the OS. I never noticed any stuttering or lag that didn't come from the OS itself. I've been using sandisk class2 for that and moved to a bigger sandisk class4 recently. No decernible improvement other than that it's a little faster to copy files from my computer to my phone and back, now.
Those cards are rather inexpensive nowadays, especially when we are talking about only 16GB. Don't think about it too much. Just buy one and try. If you have problems with the speed, use it as a flash drive and get a faster card for your phone.
UrbanDesigns said:
Ahh okay, I plan on watching movies and stuff I'll just go with the class 10 over the cheaper one I just wanted to know how it would affect phone use
I'm going to get this I think:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sandisk-U...ain_3&hash=item4abb2020b8&_uhb=1#ht_500wt_969
16gb is more then enough for me plus the 11gb I have in my internal storage
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I'm surprised noone has mentioned this yet. But do not buy that card. That auction is for a SDHC card, our phones are only compatible with Micro SD(HC) cards. If you buy that card, you will not be able to use it in your phone. You will need to find a Micro SDHC card.
To be honest I can't even see me using the 11GB you get on the phone unless it's music, an 8GB would do me just fine but I'm going to get the 16GB just in case, I'm only really getting one for rooting
UrbanDesigns said:
What's the difference between class? I see class 10 and class 4, class 4 is a lot cheaper then 10 but what's the actual difference? Does class 10 transfer files faster or something?
and also can anybody recommend a good screen protector? I had one come free with my case on eBay but it doesn't even fit the whole screen
Thanks all
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Where are you located?
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Where are you located?
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I'm in the UK, and I've got a question about the trident case too.
It has a screen that you put over the front, does this mean I'll have to detach the case just to use the phone? The otterbox case looks great and well worth the money after seeing an anchor get dropped without leaving a mark on the case let alone the phone
UrbanDesigns said:
I'm in the UK, and I've got a question about the trident case too.
It has a screen that you put over the front, does this mean I'll have to detach the case just to use the phone? The otterbox case looks great and well worth the money after seeing an anchor get dropped without leaving a mark on the case let alone the phone
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If you are in the UK, I think you should have a look to this people ebay, I buy everything from them, they now have a nice screen protector and various cases and battery covers (I personally take a lot of care of my phone), check this out:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/monikaeshop/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=&_trksid=p3686
Have a special look at the carbon fiber cover and also the privacy screen protector....
Some pictures of my galaxy with them on :
When are they going to release the 64 GB Galaxy Note 2 ? At least when Apple say that there is a 64 GB version, we actually see it in real life.
If Samsung is not going to release it, why even announce that there is a 64 GB version. Samsung may as well say that there is a 16/32/64/128/256 GB version of the Galaxy Note 2 during its event to make it look good.
Gn2 forums state Samsung isn't going to bother with the 64, and likely focus on the 16 only.
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spycedtx said:
Gn2 forums state Samsung isn't going to bother with the 64, and likely focus on the 16 only.
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Even if you don't believe everything posted in a forum, considering that the 64GB S3s are just now slowly starting to trickle out in Europe, I wouldn't be optimistic on that ever happening.
Wait toss doesn't have 64? Kidding, but maybe the onboard chip coukd be removed and replaced with a 64gb model. Couple of guys I work with could do it and they have the tools. Probably safer to put a 64gb class 10 microsd in it. Maybe in a year, after warranty is out, I'll have them take a stab at it.
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Gn2 forums state Samsung isn't going to bother with the 64, and likely focus on the 16 only.
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That is why I think Samsung should not announce that there is such a thing as a 32/64 GB version of Galaxy Note originally.
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Wait toss doesn't have 64? Kidding, but maybe the onboard chip coukd be removed and replaced with a 64gb model. Couple of guys I work with could do it and they have the tools. Probably safer to put a 64gb class 10 microsd in it. Maybe in a year, after warranty is out, I'll have them take a stab at it.
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I would imagine that a class 10 64GB card would not be a good idea as a replacement to the built-in 16GB flash; I think the onboard flash is higher speed than any SD card we would install, even if you could get the Note II's storage controller and such to recognize the new chip properly, and do the connections properly.
Sounds like a cool project nonetheless
Try this, it will switch your external sd card to your internal sd card. So if you have a 64gb card you can essentially have a 64gb samsung note 2.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1981090
This is my thread i've done it, love having the extra space and not worry about running out of space.
playtillyadrop said:
Try this, it will switch your external sd card to your internal sd card. So if you have a 64gb card you can essentially have a 64gb samsung note 2.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1981090
This is my thread i've done it, love having the extra space and not worry about running out of space.
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How are things running? The internal storage on the note 2 is about triple the speed of an extreme sd card running at 95mb/s. Note 2 internal read write is just over 220 mb/s. If you use a class 10 sd card, those are only 25-30mb/s. If your playing games with huge loads like Nova 3 or move huge amounts of video/photos, it's likely going to take a huge hit to speed if you use the SD card as internal storage.
It's like desktop PCs - many people use smaller ssds for the OS and the bigger but often slower drives for heavy storage. In this case then internal is like an ssd and the SD card is like a data drive.
Can you compare the transfer rate while moving a big video to and from the internal memory compared to moving the same video to the SD card mounted as the internal drive? Curious as to your results.
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When are they going to release the 64 GB Galaxy Note 2 ? At least when Apple say that there is a 64 GB version, we actually see it in real life.
If Samsung is not going to release it, why even announce that there is a 64 GB version. Samsung may as well say that there is a 16/32/64/128/256 GB version of the Galaxy Note 2 during its event to make it look good.
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Iphone doesn't have ability to add an sd card to expand storage. The note II supports up to 64gb in addition to the built in 16gb. What other phone available has this kind of storage?
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geekasso said:
Iphone doesn't have ability to add an sd card to expand storage. The note II supports up to 64gb in addition to the built in 16gb. What other phone available has this kind of storage?
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My point is not that iphone has better storage or not. What I want to say is Samsung stated that there is a 64 GB version of the Galaxy Note 2 and they don't release it at the same time as the release of the 16 GB. Apple actually release the 16/32/64 GB at the same time.
The funny thing is, Samsung actually can make its own flash memory. It does not have to depend on another company.
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How are things running? The internal storage on the note 2 is about triple the speed of an extreme sd card running at 95mb/s. Note 2 internal read write is just over 220 mb/s. If you use a class 10 sd card, those are only 25-30mb/s. If your playing games with huge loads like Nova 3 or move huge amounts of video/photos, it's likely going to take a huge hit to speed if you use the SD card as internal storage.
It's like desktop PCs - many people use smaller ssds for the OS and the bigger but often slower drives for heavy storage. In this case then internal is like an ssd and the SD card is like a data drive.
Can you compare the transfer rate while moving a big video to and from the internal memory compared to moving the same video to the SD card mounted as the internal drive? Curious as to your results.
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To be honest i cant tell of any difference in speed in day to day use. Apps load fine and just as fast as the internal sd. The core apps and Stock Rom are installed on the ram, so there wouldnt be any difference really with using the device. As for transferring videos back and forth i haven't really done and tests, but than again i would always store larger media files on the 64gb sd anyway. I do highly recommend this mod especially for someone looking for more capacity. i had this mod on my gs3 and no problems then, and i have no problems now. If anyone is holding out for the 64gb note 2 just look at the gs3 situation. You have to remember you arent removing the internal sd they are just swapped for each other in the OS. So the internal is now the external. Both are accessible just like normal.
I'm running a 64GB microSDXC and it's just fine and dandy. I agree they shouldn't announce it and then not have it available though.
playtillyadrop said:
To be honest i cant tell of any difference in speed in day to day use. Apps load fine and just as fast as the internal sd. The core apps and Stock Rom are installed on the ram, so there wouldnt be any difference really with using the device. As for transferring videos back and forth i haven't really done and tests, but than again i would always store larger media files on the 64gb sd anyway. I do highly recommend this mod especially for someone looking for more capacity. i had this mod on my gs3 and no problems then, and i have no problems now. If anyone is holding out for the 64gb note 2 just look at the gs3 situation. You have to remember you arent removing the internal sd they are just swapped for each other in the OS. So the internal is now the external. Both are accessible just like normal.
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I ran this mod with a 64gb sandisk class 10. Works flawlessly, no difference that I can tell. Its stable and awesome.
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I ran this mod with a 64gb sandisk class 10. Works flawlessly, no difference that I can tell. Its stable and awesome.
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yup the mod is definitely awesome, seriously have to love the xda developers and what they can accomplish on android.
So no issue with game speed? I had to uninstall about 4 games cause my memory was down to 1.65gb. This is the only reason I am thinking of really rooting right now
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Maybe they'll release a 64GB when this is ready
http://www.engadget.com/2012/11/15/samsung-10nm-64gb-emmc-mobile-flash-memory/
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ratchetjaw said:
So no issue with game speed? I had to uninstall about 4 games cause my memory was down to 1.65gb. This is the only reason I am thinking of really rooting right now
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seriously no game speed difference at all. Everything works flawlessly.
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seriously no game speed difference at all. Everything works flawlessly.
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Great to hear. Will root mine and do this once this 64gb class 10 card I ordered is in. Have a32 in now so will just wait
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Use EXTERNAL SD, do not rely on internal storage!
Earthbrain said:
When are they going to release the 64 GB Galaxy Note 2 ? At least when Apple say that there is a 64 GB version, we actually see it in real life.
If Samsung is not going to release it, why even announce that there is a 64 GB version. Samsung may as well say that there is a 16/32/64/128/256 GB version of the Galaxy Note 2 during its event to make it look good.
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You should never be worried about the internal memory size - even 8GB should be enough, AS LONG AS the phone comes with EXTERNAL SD CARD SLOT WHICH ACCEPTS LARGE SD CARDS. Having the external SD card is NOT necessarily about expanding your storing capacity (although a 64GB does that generously) but rather about having your information safe, significantly less prone to accidental formatting/erasing. Most of the time when you do a factory reset your internal storage is also formatted - do you want that to happen when you stored tons of important information? Of course not!! Worried about read/write speed? Buy a high quality, class 10 external SD card and I promise you won't see any drop in speed. Only use the internal storage for files that the system really looks for and requires to be placed inhere - otherwise, EVERYTHING else, especially large media files, backups and personal files should be kept onto the EXTERNAL SD Card. There are tons of advantages doing so and all those messages companies like Apple, HTC (newly adopted this stupid model), or others alike who try to influence and convince you that external SD cards are obsolete & cloud storage is better, all that is simply marketing BS. Buy Samsung because they didn't aligned themselves to the BS, because you can have a super generous 16GB internal storage and up to 64GB external storage. Do you need more than 80GB on the go? Then reconsider...really! Maybe you shouldn't download all the internet today, leave some for tomorrow when they'll make you pay for all that "free" cloud storage that you kept cramming onto today. Be open minded, understand how things work and do what's good for YOU not for the big corporations!
Several game loft games and the internal storage is gone... some people do that ya know
And most people dont know about all the hacks to get around this limitation.
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Hi all,
I'm about to pull the trigger and buy a Note 2. I want to get the Titanium Grey one as I already have a White S2 so it's not worth getting white again. I was looking forward to getting the 32GB version, in my country we got a some units of the 32GB in white and now they're out of stock, and I guess we won't be getting 32GB anytime soon so I've decided on the 16GB coz I got fed up of waiting.
What I want to make sure of is, does swapping partitions of the internal sd with the external sd card really work with some script or with roms that have init.d enabled, can't remember exactly. I've seen a few tutorials and it does seem to work perfectly with lots of users. I'm planning on getting the famous 64GB Sandisk SDXC card. Also does the phone's speed get affected if I load the memory card with lets say 40GB or more of stuff in it??
Please make me comfortable enough to make my purchase
Thanks
I am currently using the extsd2internalsd mod (look it up int the Android Development section) and what it does is place the app's caches and other files on the sd card instead of the phone (ex. The 1GB file of Asphalt goes to the sd card ehile the small main app remains on the phone). So far this method has worked perfectly for me (internal memory has barely been used) so it's worth giving it a try
Regarding slow downs, on previous devices (Galaxy Nexus, Nexus 7) when the internal memory starts to fill up I could notice the device getting slower however I don't think this will happen on an SD card (I have 5GB remaining on my 32GB sd card and so far I had no slow downs)
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Thank you for the reply modstorm...that's good to know.
Looking forward to more replies
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Depends on files used. Also, you might notice slowdowns when you get to around 10% of your memory's capacity. For instance, the 64gb formatted is ~60gb and when you start getting below ~10gb it might slow down.
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@rbiter said:
Depends on files used. Also, you might notice slowdowns when you get to around 10% of your memory's capacity. For instance, the 64gb formatted is ~60gb and when you start getting below ~10gb it might slow down.
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Yeah I'm aware of that...I know that the 16gb is formatted as 10.6Gb something around that.
God...im so confused :S
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Yeah the note2 I believe internal memory was 10.7 available out of the box and 14.7 total. What did Samsung put on here to take up 4gb. I think stock android is about 2gb.
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I usually dont fill up my phone with lots of images and videos...only apps and a few games that's. But the games such as Gameloft games do take a large amount of space..but I guess there is a workaround to this using GL to Sd or directory bind..is that correct??
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ehab78 said:
Hi all,
I'm about to pull the trigger and buy a Note 2. I want to get the Titanium Grey one as I already have a White S2 so it's not worth getting white again. I was looking forward to getting the 32GB version, in my country we got a some units of the 32GB in white and now they're out of stock, and I guess we won't be getting 32GB anytime soon so I've decided on the 16GB coz I got fed up of waiting.
What I want to make sure of is, does swapping partitions of the internal sd with the external sd card really work with some script or with roms that have init.d enabled, can't remember exactly. I've seen a few tutorials and it does seem to work perfectly with lots of users. I'm planning on getting the famous 64GB Sandisk SDXC card. Also does the phone's speed get affected if I load the memory card with lets say 40GB or more of stuff in it??
Please make me comfortable enough to make my purchase
Thanks
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Welcome~
I personally use directory bind. It is extremely simple to use and works great on the Note 2. Basically, puts the data of big apps to your externam sd card. All my big games are on my external now. Games like NFS Most Wanted, Modern Combat. I always have over 7 gigs in my internal. Currently have used about 30 Gigs on my external due to a lot of videos ^_^ Here's the link to Directory Bind Download the latest version "O" (It goes in alphabetical order)
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Welcome~
I personally use directory bind. It is extremely simple to use and works great on the Note 2. Basically, puts the data of big apps to your externam sd card. All my big games are on my external now. Games like NFS Most Wanted, Modern Combat. I always have over 7 gigs in my internal. Currently have used about 30 Gigs on my external due to a lot of videos ^_^ Here's the link to Directory Bind Download the latest version "O" (It goes in alphabetical order)
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Great thanks for the info and the link to directory bind.
How do the games run when stored on the external sd card...is there any noticable lag or frame rate issues??
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ehab78 said:
Great thanks for the info and the link to directory bind.
How do the games run when stored on the external sd card...is there any noticable lag or frame rate issues??
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Great to be of help! The games run absolutely great. No lag at all. You'll really appreciate this neat little app. (One quick tip, once you're in the app long press the input field to open up the folder browser)
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Great to be of help! The games run absolutely great. No lag at all. You'll really appreciate this neat little app. (One quick tip, once you're in the app long press the input field to open up the folder browser)
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Awesome...good to know that, and thanks for the tip buddy
I'll still wait for more replies before I purchase it...I wanna be 100% confident I won't run into problems.
Still nobody answered me with regards to swapping partitions...does it really work??
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boodies said:
Great to be of help! The games run absolutely great. No lag at all. You'll really appreciate this neat little app. (One quick tip, once you're in the app long press the input field to open up the folder browser)
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Wish i had read this little gem of information about 10minutes ago. Cheers.
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Wish i had read this little gem of information about 10minutes ago. Cheers.
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Lol....why 10 mins ago?
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ehab78 said:
Lol....why 10 mins ago?
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Because I had just finished setting up directory bind, but manually typed in the paths. Knowing about the long press would have saved me quite a bit of time.
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Because I had just finished setting up directory bind, but manually typed in the paths. Knowing about the long press would have saved me quite a bit of time.
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Aha I see
Finally got my Titanium Grey Note 2...it looks gorgeous !!! Will hunt for custom roms while im at work tomorrow morning
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Dude, i've paid a hand and a leg for this phone and i'd do it again!
It's impressed me with it's performance, battery life and awesomeness!
The screen is the best AMOLED to date and I have to say, i've seen a few!
Do it, there surely be workarounds for the memory pretty fast!
Later Edit: I see you finally did it, GOOD JOB!
I too, have the Titanium Grey, don't like white phones for some reason...
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Dude, i've paid a hand and a leg for this phone and i'd do it again!
It's impressed me with it's performance, battery life and awesomeness!
The screen is the best AMOLED to date and I have to say, i've seen a few!
Do it, there surely be workarounds for the memory pretty fast!
Later Edit: I see you finally did it, GOOD JOB!
I too, have the Titanium Grey, don't like white phones for some reason...
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Thank you Magnumtz...i'm very proud to have made the purchase
I've looked into the extsd2internalSD v5.5 mod in the android development section, and it seems great.
Right now i'm downloading several custom roms so that I can try them when i'm at work, I still have to go to my carrier to get a Micro sim card and will look for a Sandisk 64GB class 10 memory card.
Thanks again bro
On main page for this forum why the ROM is 64GB when its only 16GB ?
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On main page for this forum why the ROM is 64GB when its only 16GB ?
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The issue is the amount of internal (NAND) flash memory installed in the phone. When Samsung announced the Galaxy S4 they said it would be available with 16GB, 32GB or 64GB of internal flash. This is comparable to the Galaxy S3, which was available with 16GB or 32GB (and later 64GB) internal flash.
This has become an important issue because the SGH-M919 (T-Mobile's version) comes with almost half of the 16GB internal flash used by pre-installed applications. This leaves the user with less than 8GB for their own use.
Samsung's attitude is just use the external SD card, which can hold up to 64GB. However, the most recent versions of Android do not support running applications from the external SD card. So this not a valid alternative.
Though 8 GB sounds like quite a lot of storage, on my Galaxy S3 (with 32GB internal flash and 64GB external flash) I am using approximately 10GB of the internal flash memory. And this is with all photos/music/video stored on the external card.
I would have already more then filled the internal flash on the 16GB Galaxy S4.
In addition, no matter how much better/faster the Galaxy S4 is, I will not go from 32GB Internal flash to 16GB Internal flash while paying $650 for the "upgrade".
Both the Galaxy S3 and Galaxy S4 come with 2GB of internal RAM.
I hope this answers your question.
ChitownWingMan said:
The issue is the amount of internal (NAND) flash memory installed in the phone. When Samsung announced the Galaxy S4 they said it would be available with 16GB, 32GB or 64GB of internal flash. This is comparable to the Galaxy S3, which was available with 16GB or 32GB internal flash.
This has become an important issue because the SGH-M919 (T-Mobile's version) comes with almost half of the 16GB internal flash used by pre-installed applications. This leaves the user with less than 8GB for their own use.
Samsung's attitude is just use the external SD card, which can hold up to 64GB. However, the most recent versions of Android do not support running applications from the external SD card. So this not a valid alternative.
Though 8 GB sounds like quite a lot of storage, on my Galaxy S3 (with 32GB internal flash and 64GB external flash) I am using approximately 10GB of the internal flash memory. And this is with all photos/music/video stored on the external card.
I would have already more then filled the internal flash on the 16GB Galaxy S4.
In addition, no matter how much better/faster the Galaxy S4 is, I will not go from 32GB Internal flash to 16GB Internal flash while paying $650 for the "upgrade".
Both the Galaxy S3 and Galaxy S4 come with 2GB of internal RAM.
I hope this answers your question.
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Yes, it does,
Thanks
ChitownWingMan said:
The issue is the amount of internal (NAND) flash memory installed in the phone. When Samsung announced the Galaxy S4 they said it would be available with 16GB, 32GB or 64GB of internal flash. This is comparable to the Galaxy S3, which was available with 16GB or 32GB (and later 64GB) internal flash.
This has become an important issue because the SGH-M919 (T-Mobile's version) comes with almost half of the 16GB internal flash used by pre-installed applications. This leaves the user with less than 8GB for their own use.
Samsung's attitude is just use the external SD card, which can hold up to 64GB. However, the most recent versions of Android do not support running applications from the external SD card. So this not a valid alternative.
Though 8 GB sounds like quite a lot of storage, on my Galaxy S3 (with 32GB internal flash and 64GB external flash) I am using approximately 10GB of the internal flash memory. And this is with all photos/music/video stored on the external card.
I would have already more then filled the internal flash on the 16GB Galaxy S4.
In addition, no matter how much better/faster the Galaxy S4 is, I will not go from 32GB Internal flash to 16GB Internal flash while paying $650 for the "upgrade".
Both the Galaxy S3 and Galaxy S4 come with 2GB of internal RAM.
I hope this answers your question.
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Thats crazy! Back that stuff up to your computer man! lol. I have the 16GB S3 and have only ever filled up the internal SD because i didn't clean it. After i took 10 mins to go through ever file i had, i reclaimed 7 GB! of data.
elesbb said:
Thats crazy! Back that stuff up to your computer man! lol. I have the 16GB S3 and have only ever filled up the internal SD because i didn't clean it. After i took 10 mins to go through ever file i had, i reclaimed 7 GB! of data.
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It has nothing to do with cleaning. It has to do with having over 700 apps installed, some of them using large amounts of data that could not be moved to the SD card. When I clean the dead and unused file I may recover 10 or 20 MB. Not gigabytes.
I backup daily with Titanium and weekly with Nandroid Manager.
ChitownWingMan said:
It has nothing to do with cleaning. It has to do with having over 700 apps installed, some of them using large amounts of data that could not be moved to the SD card. When I clean the dead and unused file I may recover 10 or 20 MB. Not gigabytes.
I backup daily with Titanium and weekly with Nandroid Manager.
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Ah them backups suck a lot of memory. Can i ask how one uses 700 apps!? holy crap
elesbb said:
Ah them backups suck a lot of memory. Can i ask how one uses 700 apps!? holy crap
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Some of them are because I'm anal. I have something like 30 camera apps because I just can't decide which one I like best. I am a professional photographer and none of them work like my Nikon D-700 .
I keep downloading the Amazon free app of the day if it looks like an interesting game or utility. I have 10 different calculators (RF, Hex, Construction, Depth of Field, etc). Maybe 30 different games. I have a whole bunch of root/custom configuration apps. Even a bootable copy of Ubuntu.
I use Go Launcher Ex. I have the most commonly used apps on my home page, 2nd most commonly used apps on a second home page.
Everything else is organized into 36 folders in the app tray.
ChitownWingMan said:
Some of them are because I'm anal. I have something like 30 camera apps because I just can't decide which one I like best. I am a professional photographer and none of them work like my Nikon D-700 .
I keep downloading the Amazon free app of the day if it looks like an interesting game or utility. I have 10 different calculators (RF, Hex, Construction, Depth of Field, etc). Maybe 30 different games. I have a whole bunch of root/custom configuration apps. Even a bootable copy of Ubuntu.
I use Go Launcher Ex. I have the most commonly used apps on my home page, 2nd most commonly used apps on a second home page.
Everything else is organized into 36 folders in the app tray.
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Im glad thats not my phone sheesh!
I too had a bunch of camera apps, finally just got to it and edited the CM10.1 camera to add/remove the things i like. And i also had 564564646 calculators, being a theoretical physics major not one did everything. I just came across Graphing Calculator - MathPac+ that i am loving now that i modded it. Prolly gonna be my go to one now. I also used the TI emulators.
elesbb said:
Im glad thats not my phone sheesh!
I too had a bunch of camera apps, finally just got to it and edited the CM10.1 camera to add/remove the things i like. And i also had 564564646 calculators, being a theoretical physics major not one did everything. I just came across Graphing Calculator - MathPac+ that i am loving now that i modded it. Prolly gonna be my go to one now. I also used the TI emulators.
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I am leaning towards the JB+ camera app as it seems to be the easiest. However, there are several apps that allow much more control for when I am too lazy to drag out the Nikon.
I use NeoCal in RPN mode for my main calculator but it doesn't handle Hex or Time Value of Money very well.
I sent you a private email about learning Java/Android and an app I would like to write.
thanks in advance...
I'm still waiting for the 64GB version of the SGH-M919.
ChitownWingMan said:
I am leaning towards the JB+ camera app as it seems to be the easiest. However, there are several apps that allow much more control for when I am too lazy to drag out the Nikon.
I use NeoCal in RPN mode for my main calculator but it doesn't handle Hex or Time Value of Money very well.
I sent you a private email about learning Java/Android and an app I would like to write.
thanks in advance...
I'm still waiting for the 64GB version of the SGH-M919.
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I did reply, i hope you got it, i typed quite a bit
But now that CM10.1 has HDR, i love it more Pics look phenomenal on the S3.
And im waiting for my back account to increase for the 16GB SGH-M919
I purchased a 128GB Sandisk card originally for my LG G3 which failed shortly after getting my Note 4. Sandisk offered to even exchage it or I can wait for the new 64GB extreme pro model soon to come out also as an exchange. Should I go with the larger 128GB card rated at 48mbs or go for the new 64GB UHS-3 card rated at 95mbs. I do not need 128GB of storage but will my phone have any better SD performance with the faster card? Here is the link for the new card and the old one. Advice appreciated
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Extre...&sr=8-2&keywords=sandisk+extreme+pro+micro+sd
http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Adapt...946784&sr=8-1&keywords=sandisk+128gb+micro+sd
from what I've heard, you can't access your SD card on your own on the note 4 without root. not exactly sure to what extent this goes as I'm STILL WAITING FOR BESTBUY to get my preorder in.. I've sseen other threads here around xda asking if anyone has figured out a way to move files to their SD card without root, and the answers they get are basically, 'no'.
im not the best to answer your question, but seeing as you have links in hand and are probably itching to buy it, i figured i needed to throw that out before you actually buy something you may not have much use for.
google 'SD card on kitkat' and you'll get some better informed information than what i can tell you here on the train. gl either way!
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soraxd said:
from what I've heard, you can't use your SD card on the note 4 without root. not exactly sure to what extent this goes as I'm STILL WAITING FOR BESTBUY to get my preorder in.. I've sseen other threads here around xda asking if anyone has figured out a way to move files to their SD card without root, and the answers they get are basically, 'no'.
im not the best to answer your question, but seeing as you have links in hand and are probably itching to buy it, i figured i needed to throw that out before you actually buy something you may not have much use for.
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I currently have an older SanDisk 32gb in my note 4 that works for storing music and pictures taken with camera. I think the issue you are referring to is moving apps and data from phone to SD which is a problem with kitkat that should be fixed with root or with lollipop update. I am more concerned if my phone will be able to utilize the speed of the faster card. I appreciate your input though
No external SD card writing by other apps is a security feature google added to the kit Kat uodate to help keep sensitive information safe on your phone or tablet.
cnote74 said:
No external SD card writing by other apps is a security feature google added to the kit Kat uodate to help keep sensitive information safe on your phone or tablet.
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I do not store my downloaded apps to my external SD card. My question is will my phone utilize the read speed of the pro model card as far as loading my pics, music, and large video files? Also will it write my pictures and videos taken with phone as fast as the card is rated for or does the micro sd bus speed on note 4 have a limit for read/write speeds.
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I do not store my downloaded apps to my external SD card. My question is will my phone utilize the read speed of the pro model card as far as loading my pics, music, and large video files? Also will it write my pictures and videos taken with phone as fast as the card is rated for or does the micro sd bus speed on note 4 have a limit for read/write speeds.
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I have a lot of 1080p video on my SD card and they play perfectly so I think it utilizes the extra speed of the card, my card is a 32 gig with 95mbs speed.
cnote74 said:
I have a lot of 1080p video on my SD card and they play perfectly so I think it utilizes the extra speed of the card, my card is a 32 gig with 95mbs speed.
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Thanks for the input
I have the 128 GB card working fine in the note 4. I have had problems writing to it from file managers other than MyFiles. I get the access denied message. I hope we get root soon
Quick question for everyone...what format is your sd card in? I'm about to format from my old s4 and I'm wondering if I should use exfat, ntfs, ext4
..? Thanks
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I have the 128gb I never formatted but with phone. Still exfat32 and works perfectly on my attention note 4.