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Hey guys, so I'm going Tablet hunting and have come down with 2 leading candidates, the Pipo M7 Pro, a Chinese Tablet. or the Nexus 7 (2013).
The only thing that worries me is the development. As a Flashaholic I'd like a tablet with decent dev support, and I haven't seen any dev support for the Pipo M7 Pro.
Now, the Nexus 7 Multi touch and GPS/random reboot issues have me here at bay, making the debate a bit more intense.
I'll probably use my tablet for reading, school related work or gaming/listening to music (rarely though, I'll probably have my Galaxy Nexus for that which works fine really(or a Nexus 5 by the time it comes out ))
Any recommendations/Opinions/Point of views will be appreciated.
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Nexus 7, most of not all the "issues"with it are a very vocal minority, overflowing a small problem, of it were half as big an issue as they try to make ir to bbr, ir would be all the blogs
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Small, yes.
Vocal, yes.
Very real, though. And, to some degree, acknowledged by the powers that be at Google...
The people posting, including myself, have been through 2-3 of more N7 2013s.
It's the luck of the draw. It may only effect a few percent, but over the multi thousands sold, it's a percentage that needs to be taken seriously.
If you purchase one, be sure that it's from a seller offering a good return/exchange policy.
z0phi3l said:
Nexus 7, most of not all the "issues"with it are a very vocal minority, overflowing a small problem, of it were half as big an issue as they try to make ir to bbr, ir would be all the blogs
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Mostly every blog I've read mentions it. But I guess I'm just on that "unlucky and unconventional" part of the internet.
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Been thru quite a few "shows" ... the TF101, the 2012 Nexus 7 & now the 2013 Nexus 7...
I still don't hesitate a bit to buy one. Heck, I even wish there is a refurbished sales right now.
danvee said:
Small, yes.
Vocal, yes.
Very real, though. And, to some degree, acknowledged by the powers that be at Google...
The people posting, including myself, have been through 2-3 of more N7 2013s.
It's the luck of the draw. It may only effect a few percent, but over the multi thousands sold, it's a percentage that needs to be taken seriously.
If you purchase one, be sure that it's from a seller offering a good return/exchange policy.
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So it is a hardware issue? And not software related?
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Your guess is as good as theirs right now....
Chinese stuff is just not up to par as brand name stuff yet. Their specs look great, benchmarks are great, but in reality they are far far apart when you use both side by side.
I have a Ifive X2 with a RK3188 and it lags like hell, battery is good, screen is nice, but real world performance is just awful. Since I got my Note 8 from repair, I dont use the X2 at all anymore.
For the small price difference it just makes no sense to consider Chinese stuff vs a Nexus 7.
Nutsonfire said:
Chinese stuff is just not up to par as brand name stuff yet.
I have a Ifive X2 with a RK3188 and it lags like hell, battery is good, screen is nice, but real world performance is just awful.
For the small price difference it just makes no sense to consider Chinese stuff vs a Nexus 7.
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This Pipo M7 Pro isn't a fastest tablet in the world and after a bit of customizations is in real world usable. The screen is impressive, good battery, very good Wi-Fi and the firmware is stable. I don't regret my (old ) Nexus 7
M7 is great for browsing internet, reading books and multimedia but not too suited for video games.
I am satisfied but not enthusiastic.
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This Pipo M7 Pro isn't a fastest tablet in the world and after a bit of customizations is in real world usable. The screen is impressive, good battery, very good Wi-Fi and the firmware is stable. I don't regret my (old ) Nexus 7
M7 is great for browsing internet, reading books and multimedia but not too suited for video games.
I am satisfied but not enthusiastic.
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Thank you for your opinion.
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Chinese stuff is just not up to par as brand name stuff yet. Their specs look great, benchmarks are great, but in reality they are far far apart when you use both side by side.
I have a Ifive X2 with a RK3188 and it lags like hell, battery is good, screen is nice, but real world performance is just awful. Since I got my Note 8 from repair, I dont use the X2 at all anymore.
For the small price difference it just makes no sense to consider Chinese stuff vs a Nexus 7.
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Pipo is a pretty good Chinese company, we're not just talking about those ripoff chinese companies you find on Ebay, and I have used Rockchip based devices and can vouch for them, they're not as bad as you say.
So your "no sense to consider Chinese stuff vs a Nexus 7" is kind of stereotypical and not really reliable
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Jimlarck said:
Thank you for your opinion.
Pipo is a pretty good Chinese company, we're not just talking about those ripoff chinese companies you find on Ebay, and I have used Rockchip based devices and can vouch for them, they're not as bad as you say.
So your "no sense to consider Chinese stuff vs a Nexus 7" is kind of stereotypical and not really reliable
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First,
I agree with the above line in bold.
Second,
If you aren't in a hurry to buy a tablet, I'd wait to see what the TegraTab and the LG G Pad 8.3 end up being like. That's what I'm going to do when I return/exchange my N7 flo for the 3rd time. I'm on my 2nd one now, so hopefully the 3rd try will be the the charm! I expect both those options to be more expensive, but if either of them is within 100 of the 32gb N7 flo (as long as it's 32gb or 16gb with a microsd), then I'll probably give it a shot.
Third,
If you absolutely want a tablet right now, I can't recommend the N7 in good conscience. Having had two with the same exact issue(multitouch), I would say the odds are pretty good that you'd get one with the same issue. That said, if the N7 is what you like and you don't mind potentially returning/exchanging it, get one. Just be sure to buy from somewhere with a good return/exchange program. I've had pretty good luck with Best Buy so far, as well as Amazon. I'd choose Best Buy if there's one near you for ease of returning/exchanging, i.e. no wait time.
Good Luck!
Jimlarck said:
Thank you for your opinion.
Pipo is a pretty good Chinese company, we're not just talking about those ripoff chinese companies you find on Ebay, and I have used Rockchip based devices and can vouch for them, they're not as bad as you say.
So your "no sense to consider Chinese stuff vs a Nexus 7" is kind of stereotypical and not really reliable
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I have one of the latest and greatest Chinese tabs as I write in my post.
Yes they are better then what they used to be but they still lack in some aspects. These tabs using the RK3188 chip in real life are just not want the benchmarks want you to believe. The Chinese keep cutting corners where they shouldn't and it shows. So yeah it looks like you get a lot for 200$ but when you use it you understand why its cheaper.
It's no surprise that all the high end Chinese tabs and phones end up using Qualcomm and Samsung CPUs and cost almost the same as brand name stuff.
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I have one of the latest and greatest Chinese tabs as I write in my post.
Yes they are better then what they used to be but they still lack in some aspects. These tabs using the RK3188 chip in real life are just not want the benchmarks want you to believe. The Chinese keep cutting corners where they shouldn't and it shows. So yeah it looks like you get a lot for 200$ but when you use it you understand why its cheaper.
It's no surprise that all the high end Chinese tabs and phones end up using Qualcomm and Samsung CPUs and cost almost the same as brand name stuff.
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Since when are benchmarks actually safe, legitimate and trustworthy?
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Since when are benchmarks actually safe, legitimate and trustworthy?
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They are not, but fans of Chinese stuff like to go crazy about them and use them to compare with brand name products. If I see two products with similar scores I would expect similar function but clearly it's not the case.
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I had Asus Infinity TF700T before, but I was very disappointed about the build quality and the lagging of the device. I hated that tab every moment. I didn't install custom rom because it required unlocking the device and loosing the warranty. So I sold it and bought Pipo M7pro.
I like the screen and size of the tablet and this is much faster and smoother than Asus TF700. Also the build quality is better than on Asus, which had loose screen even repaired three times for warranty.
Multi window feature is pretty cool! Check the video from youtube.
I'm really satisfied of this cheap Chinese tab!
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So after reading some of your messages and doing some more research on my own. I've decided to wait until October, if the Nexus 7 multitouch problems have been resolved (they're addressing the problem at their warehouses/manufacturers or fixed it on an update) I'll buy it, if not, then Pipo M7 Pro will have to be my choice.
Really like the N7 but what use is there buying it when chances are that I'll get a broken Tablet, no, I can wait, I trust Google that they'll resolve this soon, it isn't the first time they've encountered a problem with manufacturers, like the N4 for example, with the infamous exploding back(I did think it was spontaneous and comical so I did have a laugh about it, hopefully the owners got a replacement though)
Thank you all for your messages and opinions. Especially those who gave their completely unbiased opinion and thoughts.
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Jimlarck said:
So after reading some of your messages and doing some more research on my own. I've decided to wait until October, if the Nexus 7 multitouch problems have been resolved (they're addressing the problem at their warehouses/manufacturers or fixed it on an update) I'll buy it, if not, then Pipo M7 Pro will have to be my choice.
Really like the N7 but what use is there buying it when chances are that I'll get a broken Tablet, no, I can wait, I trust Google that they'll resolve this soon, it isn't the first time they've encountered a problem with manufacturers, like the N4 for example, with the infamous exploding back(I did think it was spontaneous and comical so I did have a laugh about it, hopefully the owners got a replacement though)
Thank you all for your messages and opinions. Especially those who gave their completely unbiased opinion and thoughts.
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I think the Chinese phones and tablets may have some issues but then again so do other phones. In my opinion it is best to wait for a very comprehensive review before you buy. And only buy from a near-by supplier that is willing to take it back if it is faulty, do not buy direct from China because it is unlikely to get your money back, plus the shipping costs and customs would make it uneconomical to return items.
For example, a year ago I bought a Chinese phone, with superb specifications. It seems to have two faults (at least). First, it is very fussy with the SD card, many applications do not work with it and especially GPS Navigation applications that store huge maps on the SD card. Secondly the GPS receiver is either broken or simply very, very bad. My dedicated Garmin GPS, my wife's iPhone4, my son's Samsung S3 : they all lock on to the GPS almost instantly. The Chinese phone needs to be absolutely stand still for like 5-10 minutes before it can lock on. Completely useless in the car for example, I have to stop the car, and then wait 5-10 minutes so it can lock.
Someone said above that high-end Chinese phones and tabs use Qualcomm and Samsung parts and not their own. Well, no **** Sherlock! That qualifies as one of the most idiotic statements I have read. Every single electronic device in the world uses parts made by various/hundreds of other manufacturers. This has always been the case. I would not expect the Pipo M7 Pro to have components made by Pipo - and it does not matter anyway. My Sony VAIO laptop does not use a "SONY" CPU, or chipset, or GPU, or memory, or capacitors, or resistors, actually I doubt that a single component inside my laptop is actually made by Sony, except perhaps the badge!!!
I have to say, I bought the 2012 N7 as well as my 2013 and both were flawless from the start. My fiancee got my 2012 when i bought my new one and it's still going strong. The only issue I have at all with the 2013 is a delayed wake when using a magnetic cover. That's obviously a software issue, as leaving Bluetooth on fixes the problem.
Oh and Zilliman, your Chinese phone sounds like my old Samsung Captivate. That thing had the worst GPS I've ever seen. Developers worked hard to fix it but it was never very good. Completely useless even when walking, let alone driving.
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RKight said:
I have to say, I bought the 2012 N7 as well as my 2013 and both were flawless from the start. My fiancee got my 2012 when i bought my new one and it's still going strong. The only issue I have at all with the 2013 is a delayed wake when using a magnetic cover. That's obviously a software issue, as leaving Bluetooth on fixes the problem.
Oh and Zilliman, your Chinese phone sounds like my old Samsung Captivate. That thing had the worst GPS I've ever seen. Developers worked hard to fix it but it was never very good. Completely useless even when walking, let alone driving.
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Here's a problem for those with N7 Pro : the speakers crackle at high volume.
Do not buy M7 Pro
OK I guess finally I may have something to help after getting so many helps from this nice forum.
I live in China and I'd say I'm quite familiar with Chinese tablets and nexus devices. (proud owner of both types) I've yet to find a Chinese native brand tablet that marches either Nexus 7's build quality or OS stability. (always search for teardown pics before decision) Usually they have small problems here or there, but you don't have a bug list and workaround thread in a good forum simply because they don't have enough users.
There are worth buying Chinese tablets though. They are usually much cheaper than Nexus 7, don't have fatal problems, have good user base and forums to post workarounds of those small issues, and recently they start to come in so many varieties of screen size. (there used to be a time when they are mainly 7" widescreen, before the mighty Nexus 7's arrival.)
IMHO if you prefer 7" tablet, just grab the new Nexus 7. If not, don't buy M7 Pro for the following reasons:
1 Rockchip is not as friendly to devs as its rival SoC company Allwinner. I can find unofficial CM10.2 on AllWinner platform but I find almost nothing on Rockchip;
2 RK3188 seems strong, but in practice it's not a good chip for HD "Retina" display due to poor design choice of a single channel 32bit memory controller, which results a memory bandwidth that nearly kills GPU performance. BTW that's just a fraction of bandwidth compared to the new Nexus 7. I heard the GPU performance is so poor that even stock launcher can't go butterly smooth.
However RK3188 + a 1024*768 display is fine.
Summary: don't buy RK3188+HD display like the M7 Pro; strongly recommend new Nexus 7
correction: No Chinese SoC performs well on 1080p display. I'd guess 720p is the limit.
Hope it helps
Worth Selling Nexus 7 to buy the 2013 version? I don't know what to do?... Need some help.
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well depends what are you going to use it for
for games, yes
for reading, well because of the high res, yes
listening to music, depends if you use speaker or headphones.
you might if you want to, the changes are a lot of them, my brother owns a old nexus 7, it's good but not comparable to mine.
johnnyman25 said:
Worth Selling Nexus 7 to buy the 2013 version? I don't know what to do?... Need some help.
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Hell yes. I could never go back to my old Nexus 7 after buying the new one a few months ago. Everything on it is better: display, sound, performance, battery life, size/weight, etc/etc. I thought I might regret buying it since I already had the other (was wife's really, but she hardly ever used it), but I guarantee it's a MUCH better tablet than the 2012 model. I am very pleased with my new Nexus 7, and bet you will be too!
So u recommend me to sell it? The new Nexus still has the speaker problem? Btw I agree all that u say. I use the tablet for surfing and rarely gaming. I could see a lot of difference in gaming and surfing with the new one? Thx again!
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I'm not not sure what this "speaker problem" is you're referring too, the speaker works fine on both my nexus 7s (2012 and 2013 models). But yes, the 2013 model is a solid upgrade. If you primarily use it for web browsing you might not see enough of a difference to justify the upgrade, but if you do much multitasking or play graphic intensive games its worth it for sure.
I can't bring myself to part with my 2012 N7, but since picking up the 2013 it has been resigned to being nothing more than an alarm clock.
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So u recommend me to sell it? The new Nexus still has the speaker problem? Btw I agree all that u say. I use the tablet for surfing and rarely gaming. I could see a lot of difference in gaming and surfing with the new one?
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You'll notice things look sharper and scrolling feels smoother.
The N7FHD doesn't have the blown speaker problem that some of the old N7's had. And no issues w/ the screen glue popping loose.
However, the N7FHDs can have other problems, including random reboots. I had to return my first one...same apps installed on the old N7 had no issues...the new one developed random reboots in a few days.
Others have said the GPS is flaky and there are multitouch issues. And others have complained the screens are easier to crack because the body flexes more easily because it's thinner.
Just things to be aware of...it is great when it's not flaky though
I read on it mostly too and love the "retina" screen..
I did it and don't regret it. I also had a $50 off coupon for Staples so the 32GB cost me $219+ tax and I sold my original with OEM case for around $150 which helped to reduce the cost of the Nexus 7 (2013). Display is the !main reason to upgrade - it doesn't even compare. There's no way you'll be able to go back to the original after using the display. I loved my original Nexus 7 too and wondered if I would see that much of a difference but the new display is incredible. If you can sell your old one for a decent amount, I'd say do it. I do have some random reboots lately though but the thing boots so quickly that I can tolerate until a fix. Plus I think its because of the ROM I'm running: an unofficial version of CM11. Hope this helps.
Thanks for sharing your experiences guys. I'm just thinking about buy the 2013 model or just wait for the "2014" model. What do you think?
Go for the 2013 model. I wouldn't really consider the 2014 version worth the wait over this one, because the new Nexus 10 hasn't even been established as yet. That's a pretty long wait.
Or, you can do what I did, and spend a little extra money for a warranty. I spent an extra $66 for a 2yr warranty from Radio Shack, and my tab holds its complete value until the day that the warranty ends. Plus, I'm protected from everything, INCLUDING BRICKS! I'm very happy with that.
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Worth Selling Nexus 7 to buy the 2013 version? I don't know what to do?... Need some help.
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I just gave mine to my mom. Se felt in love with it. Now i m the happy owner of a n7 32 GB.
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Hello guys, I am considering getting a nexus 7 tomorrow, but I just read there may be an upgrade coming to the tablet. I really like all specs for this device, but would be disappointed to buy this one, and then next month see a new nexus 8(?)
Just wanna have your advise on this, and also what do you think of it on regards of usability, reliability, rooting, custom software, performance, etc.
Thanks for taking time on reading this and sharing your advise. :fingers-crossed::good:
Zoddex said:
Hello guys, I am considering getting a nexus 7 tomorrow, but I just read there may be an upgrade coming to the tablet. I really like all specs for this device, but would be disappointed to buy this one, and then next month see a new nexus 8(?)
Just wanna have your advise on this, and also what do you think of it on regards of usability, reliability, rooting, custom software, performance, etc.
Thanks for taking time on reading this and sharing your advise. :fingers-crossed::good:
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I've had my N7 (2013) since January, and I love it. I've had no issues with lag or anything of that sort. I am content with keeping the OS stock, only with root and Xposed Framework mods (same thing with my Nexus 5 and 10). That being said, since we're sooo close to Google I/O, I would personally wait. The only reason I bought one in January was because I was able to get a new 32GB model for $170 ($100 off normal price). I definitely wouldn't pay full price for one right now with Google I/O right around the corner, since I'd imagine the new one will be priced similarly, and the current model will probably be discounted as well. However, if you absolutely have to have one, it's a great little tablet.
Thanks for replying. I am still considering but seems its still a good choice for a tablet
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You are asking in a Nexus 7 forum so will probably get a biased veiw.
Considering that, I think it's main selling point is great value for money. You also get instant updates and great ROM support. There are only rumours of a Nexus 8, the N7 is more than capable to do everything quick, efficiently and smootly. So even if one did come out I don't think you'd really suffer that much. The N7 is going to be future proof for 2 years I'd say from now.
Plus Best Buy has it on sale (the 16gb) for 199.99
Can't beat that deal c;
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Zoddex said:
Hello guys, I am considering getting a nexus 7 tomorrow, but I just read there may be an upgrade coming to the tablet. I really like all specs for this device, but would be disappointed to buy this one, and then next month see a new nexus 8(?)
Just wanna have your advise on this, and also what do you think of it on regards of usability, reliability, rooting, custom software, performance, etc.
Thanks for taking time on reading this and sharing your advise. :fingers-crossed::good:
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go for it..
One thing i would recommend that if you are going to purchase the Nexus 7 tablet to go for the 32GB version not the 16gb. The nexus 7 does not use micro sdcards so you are limited to the size of your internal storage. Besides that the tablet is great! There is so much available for this tablet! I wouldn't worry to much about a new nexus device coming out soon. When a new device comes out it takes time for developers to catch up with the new device, and so if you get a device right when it comes out you have to wait for someone to find a way to root the device and then you have to wait for developers to create a custom recovery manager and you have to wait for developers to create custom roms for the device.
Currently for the Nexus 7 2013 you can:
install TWRP recovery manager (advanced recovery manager)
install MultiROM Manager (install multiple roms and choose which rom to load on boot)
install a great number of custom ROM's such as OmniROM, CyanogenMod, CleanROM, ParanoidROM, SlimKat ROM etc etc..
install Ubuntu Touch! -> This one is a lot of fun.
Install Kali PwnPad -> if you are into computer security you can install Kali PwnPad onto your nexus device and you can use external usb wifi devices such as the RTL8187 (ALFA AWUSH036H) with your nexus device and you can put that usb wifi device into monitor mode so you can use linux programs such as -> airacrack-ng, wifite, kismet, metasploit, social engineering toolkit, and others!
Link for Kali PwnPad XDA thread -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2577356
install custom kernels There are so many great kernels for this tablet for example the ElementalX kernel!
And there are some great tools for your PC to use with your Nexus tablet such as WuGFresh's Nexus Root Toolkit. http://www.wugfresh.com/nrt
Trust me do yourself a favor and get this tablet!
-droidshadow
Thanks everyone for taking the time to write this down. You are the best
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I did a lot research before I bought n7, no regret until now. Good luck with your buy.
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I'd personally wait for several reasons - while only rumor it has been suggested that the upcoming Nexus 8 might replace the 7 at around the same price; so you'd get an updated larger product at around the current N7 price, which is great if the rumors are true. Secondly, the real reason - Google I/O is coming soon. Wait a little and your patience will be rewarded not that the N7 isn't nice; just that it's not long before you know what you can get with a little patience.
Wait the few extra months if you can. The Nexus 8 will be more than worth it
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I'd say it's the best budget tablet you can get! I'd wait a month or two to see if a new nexus 7 2014 will be announced or the rumored nexus 8. Unless you don't care about having the latest and greatest, cause the 7 is still amazing.
199 is nowhere near cheap enough. I got mine for 189 with a 25$ gift card at black Friday via staples price match.
Anyway I would definitely say you better open the box up and play with it for a while before buying. As long as you don't have touch screen issues (ghost touches, multi touch, etc) you're in the clear...
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Thanks for replying. I am still considering but seems its still a good choice for a tablet
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For the cost vrs overall performance, the fact Android it's open source and it's ability to be modified I don't think there is a better tablet. Not literally but certainly all things considered.
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I just got the Nexus 7 32gb from Best Buy today with a price match of Staples for $179.00. Staples had an error with their online pricing and showed the 32gb for $179 instead of the 16gb in their paper ad for $179.
So far after unlocking and rooting the device, I have been happy with it.
Next step is to get going on ROM's to see what I like. Just did Franco Kernel as I have used his in the past and I've been happy with the performance.
Dudes, I'm also planning on getting a Nexus 7 2013 WiFi (flo). I just wanna ask, is 32 GB enough for high end games to be installed? Anda can you plug a flash drive via USB OTG to watch movies and stuff? Thanks.
I'd personally like to add that I just yesterday returned my Deb N7 from best buy I got for 268.80 with a price match for T-Mobile. It was bugging me ever since I bought it that the new one would be announced at google i/o. Really it's a great tablet but the loudness of the speakers and screen vibrancy didn't cut it. Although it was perfect in every other category.
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uchihakurtz said:
Dudes, I'm also planning on getting a Nexus 7 2013 WiFi (flo). I just wanna ask, is 32 GB enough for high end games to be installed? Anda can you plug a flash drive via USB OTG to watch movies and stuff? Thanks.
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32 GB Is definitely enough, of course if you keep media and stuff on a USB OTG which is compatible (experience)
abrahammmmmmm_ said:
I'd personally like to add that I just yesterday returned my Deb N7 from best buy I got for 268.80 with a price match for T-Mobile. It was bugging me ever since I bought it that the new one would be announced at google i/o. Really it's a great tablet but the loudness of the speakers and screen vibrancy didn't cut it. Although it was perfect in every other category.
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Yeah, rumour has it the Nexus 8 will come in June-July but we still don't know who's going to make it. It seems like it's either LG or HTC this year.
32 GB Is definitely enough, of course if you keep media and stuff on a USB OTG which is compatible (experience)
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Cool, cuz 16 GB is just not enough and I read/write a lot for movies so why not use a flash drive instead. Thanks man!
I'm liking my G3 right now, but is anybody else excited for the N6? May have to use a jump upgrade for that bad boy. The features sound amazing and the design looks intriguing.
Tempted but too big, too expensive( for a nexus) and no removeable storage. Not only that but its made by motorola which is known for personalizing phone to your liking and yet only offer 2 colors.
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I wasn't until I got to hold a dummy unit .. No its got me thinking I might get one and after seeing the camera shots that was released yesterday its making me consider it even more
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I wasn't until I got to hold a dummy unit .. No its got me thinking I might get one and after seeing the camera shots that was released yesterday its making me consider it even more
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Link to camera shots?
I had a Z Ultra GPE and liked it, with the Nexus 6 being half an inch smaller, I feel that it would be a much better experience!
yES, unlike others, i do not think its expensive for a flagship phone. The fACT that other nexus devices were cheaper in cost, does not make this one expensive. As it is a completely different device, different manufacture, better specs ect...
I just paid $598 for the g3 and i would GLADLY pay another $50 for a nexus 6. And its cheaper than the Note 4 and Iphone 6..
I am going to sell my G3 and jump on the nexus 6 as soon as it comes out. The only thing that sucks is that it does not have a SD card slot or a removable battery, but I can live with that...
I have a G3 and the wife has a Jump to use. I'm going to use it. lol I think I might get the Note 4 and then check out the Nexus 6 when it comes out. If I like the Nexus better then I might return the Note 4 and get the Nexus. I have 30 days to return a phone with my discount that I have. I guess I might have to pay a restocking fee. The wife will get my G3.
jpelagio11 said:
I'm liking my G3 right now, but is anybody else excited for the N6? May have to use a jump upgrade for that bad boy. The features sound amazing and the design looks intriguing.
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I want one but I'm going to wait. good chance that price drops... I came from the Nexus 5 and liked it alot..
I'm not too wprried about removable storage. I had the Flex before the G3 and honestly i switch to my Flex every once in a while cuz i miss using it
me too just waiting to move to the nexus 6 I always had nexus devices
#nexus6 shall be mine. Guaranteed updates more development and sorry but the g3 has too much lag regardless of all the tweaks. I need a pure Google experience.
I'm getting the nexus 6 as well.. I like the g3 but there is no lollipop date or eta and I'm not holding my breath..
Nexus 6 here as well, like the G3, but I'm a fiend for development and this is where Nexus shines.
The Nexus 6 looks like an amazing phone but the lack of SD card slot is what's keeping me from the switch.
Mikessv said:
The Nexus 6 looks like an amazing phone but the lack of SD card slot is what's keeping me from the switch.
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I have a 64 gig sdcard in my g3 ATM and 32 on board have not touched the onboard storage and only used 5 gigs on the sdcard
Everything is stored in the cloud
With copy I have 140 gigs of storage
So its not a big deal for me bit I can see for others it would be a issue
No SD support = hellz no.
sithdroid2187 said:
No SD support = hellz no.
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64gb is plenty of space..
One thing I'm kinda worried about is the 1st Motorola phone i owned was the Cliq. We all know how that phone turned out....... ?
Jess813 said:
Nexus 6 here as well, like the G3, but I'm a fiend for development and this is where Nexus shines.
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Yea one of the biggest gripes for any phone company are the updates. Never owned a Nexus phone, but i do like plus size phones. I had the Note 2 and Flex. A 6 inch Nexus is actually the deciding factor
Count me in for the Nexus 6. I'll be placing a midnight blue one on pre-order online on the 29th. For everyone who is passing on the Nexus because of the lack of an SD card spot, you should consider buying a meenova. I still have mine from when I had the original HTC one and they work great. Very cheap and ultra portable. I'm sure it'll be even more convenient with the nice big batteries that most of these phones are getting nowadays. I'd hate for anyone to miss out on any great phones because they don't come with built in SD slots. Check them out here http://www.meenova.com/st/p/mrg2.html
Hey guys.
So, I was thinking about buying an Android tablet, so, as I am a Nexus 5 owner, my first thought was the Nexus 9, but the thing is just too expensive for me, I want something on the cheap side.
So after thinking for a bit I remembered the N7, it's got great hardware, it runs Lollipop and its freaking cheap. But it's from 2013, which I know its not necessarily a bad thing, so I want your opinion as you actually have the tablet.
Is it still worth buying? Amazon is selling it for $197.
I bought my Nexus 7 eleven months ago. I'm very satisfied with it. If you're planning to root it and unlock the bootloader, you'll be able to update with custom ROMs for quite awhile. If you're planning to run it stock unrooted, you may want to consider a newer tablet.
Yes, I think so. There's one 1 other tablet that can compete in terms of price, support, and price: the LG G Pad 8.4 GPE. Good luck finding one though. I didn't buy my Nexus 7 until this summer and I couldn't be happier.
Updates for the rest of this year, at a minimum. My only issue is with deb updates, which get held up due to LTE. Save yourself some more money by buying a refurb unit.
This may sway you... Check your local Staples store - they're having an unpublished clearance on 2013 Nexus 7. $98 for 16GB or $128 for 32GB. Many stores no longer have stock, but of you can find one it's a great deal.
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UncleMike said:
This may sway you... Check your local Staples store - they're having an unpublished clearance on 2013 Nexus 7. $98 for 16GB or $128 for 32GB. Many stores no longer have stock, but of you can find one it's a great deal.
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Definitely gonna check this out. Thanks a lot ?
And thank you all for your quick reply.
I just bought mine like 2 weeks ago.... It was a decent price (before the groupon deal)
and it does exactly what I need it to... which is work dual purpose as a home/car tablet.
Honestly I would have rather had a Nexus 10, just because I am a bit of an HTC fanboy,
But in just home use it's still faster than my HTC One M7. actually.... a lot faster.
Has decent dev support, not so much in the way of car roms/mods but still a good overall tablet.
Im still using my 2012 version
I was really excited for the Nexus 9 but I think it'll be too big and the price point is too high. I have repurchased my Nexus 7 a few times due to dropping and theft. The touchscreen on the Nexus 7 2013 is flaky when using a case or 1-handed operation because of a grounding issue with the device. Using the device 2 handed like normal you will rarely see any issues.
Gaming on the other hand is retarded on the Nexus 7 2013.
I try to play Terraria and it is just a frustrating mess. The dual thumbpad touchscreen controls get confused occasionally and causes me to either shoots or run off in the wrong direction. You have to take both thumbs off to reset it temporarily. Just FYI. This is normal across all Nexus 7 units as far as I have known. Some are more noticeable than others but they all have it. There are some flashable fixes that update the touchscreen firmware to have various degrees of sensitivity to help fix this but nothing is ever fixed completely. The fixes have helped make my tablet more enjoyable to use day-to-day but gaming will never be 100%.
I have purchased a Asus MeMoPad 7 for $20 for my son. A little lackluster tablet but plays games better then my Nexus 7.
Personally I was looking at the Nvidia Shield Tablet with a digitizer pen enabled screen. It seems to have issues of its own. The LG G Tabs, as mentioned above, are really solid tablets. I know you can pick up an LG version (with LG software) for pretty cheap. There isn't much development on that tablet though, unfortunately.
The Nexus 7 2013 is a steal at $128 if you can find one. Very solid unit. If my Nexus 7 2013 broke today, I would look else where.
Its worth every Penny..
Go for it.. I just received mine .. and flashed with the Android 5.0.2. factory image
Its magical
phoenix08 said:
Its worth every Penny..
Go for it.. I just received mine .. and flashed with the Android 5.0.2. factory image
Its magical
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I have had my Nexus 7 2013 for well over a year and I wouldn't replace it for anything. I did break last month when I slipped it into my back pocket like an idiot I sat on it and it broke the screen. Although Asus lost my Nexus for almost a month, it was still covered by its warranty..and they repaired it for free.. I Now use a Galaxy Tab 4 8.0, but its no Nexus.. I like the bigger screen, its the Nexus is still better in every way except there is no Micro SD slot.. I need a device I can carry with me that has a Micro SD.. Hence the use for the Galaxy tab.. But if you'd ask me to choose between the 2.. I'd take the Nexus any day..
If the price is right I don't think you can go far wrong. Internally, it's pretty much a Nexus 4 with a Full HD screen and a much better battery. :highfive:
I've had the LG Gad 8.3 for a day and whilst its a nice piece of kit, the aluminium back is slippery and being that touch bigger, you can't get your hand around it like the Nexus 7. There is also a ton of bloat.
Whilst I'm not convinced by Lollipop on my phone, it runs great on the Nexus 7. :victory:
i bought mine from tweakers.nl for 117 € it was a used one without warranty