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what is every one using to control there favorite games

So im curious, since the controller dosent really work smoothly with most side loaded games from the plays store. what is everyone using to play them (ex minecraft)? Are you using a app to smooth out the bumps or have you used a ps3 or wii controller and one of the many apps for that? i havent really found a good way yet what about you all?:fingers-crossed:

Onetearfalls said:
So im curious, since the controller dosent really work smoothly with most side loaded games from the plays store. what is everyone using to play them (ex minecraft)? Are you using a app to smooth out the bumps or have you used a ps3 or wii controller and one of the many apps for that? i havent really found a good way yet what about you all?:fingers-crossed:
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I am mostly removing apps which are not working good with controller but would like to know how to get them going.
but there are quite a few application which are working too good with the controller.

Well considering Ouya goes retail at the end of this month they really need to start working on the controller issues. And clean out a lot of those games, half of them don't work and the ones that do really really need work on their controller. Also a really nice feature would be if I could hold down the Ouya button to have the option to turn off the console like Xbox and Ps3, I hate getting up to turn it off.

How does ones get a ps3 controller to work?
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How does ones get a ps3 controller to work?
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you can connect the ps3 via blue tooth and use a ps3 controller app like (https://play.google.com/store/apps/...kaW9zLnNpeGF4aXNjb21wYXRpYmlsaXR5Y2hlY2tlciJd)
and that should work havn't tried it yet though

You would only need that app if the game doesn't natively support it.
If the developer has done a good job, then the PS3 and Xbox 360 controllers should work just fine.
For example, Bomb Squad natively "just works" with the standard Ouya controller, wireless and wired Xbox 360 controllers, and PS3 as well.
This weekend we played 6 player Bomb Squad (you can have up to EIGHT players on one TV!!!!!!!!!!!!!) with 2 Ouya controllers via BlueTooth, 2 off-brand USB wired Xbox 360 controllers, and 2 official MS wireless Xbox 360 controllers (connected via the Xbox 360 USB wireless adapter).
BTW, the adapter I am using for Xbox 360 wireless controllers is http://www.ebay.com/itm/370777929957?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
was like $11 and works great, also works on my PC.

Onetearfalls said:
you can connect the ps3 via blue tooth and use a ps3 controller app like (https://play.google.com/store/apps/...kaW9zLnNpeGF4aXNjb21wYXRpYmlsaXR5Y2hlY2tlciJd)
and that should work havn't tried it yet though
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Nope, you just plug in the ps3 controller via usb and push the reset button on the back and/or the ps3 button. Bluetooth will get messed up and refuse to turn on. Shut down the Ouya by holding down the power button, unplug the controller, start it back up and all your Ouya and PS3 controllers will connect just fine (if it doesn't work right away, go into the menu to pair controllers and just hold down the ps3 button instead of the ouya button and it will connect). I use 2 Ouya controllers and 2 PS3 controllers.

[Q] Input lag with SNES emulator?

Hey all,
So I got SNES9x EX+ sideloaded and booting up just fine. Loaded up some games and was playing away. Something felt off and I noticed that there is just a tiny bit of input lag from button press to game. Has anyone else experienced this?
I am using the Amazon game controller or whatever it's called, if that matters. Wasn't sure if this was a known issue, or do I need to edit/change anything?

sTo0z said:
Hey all,
So I got SNES9x EX+ sideloaded and booting up just fine. Loaded up some games and was playing away. Something felt off and I noticed that there is just a tiny bit of input lag from button press to game. Has anyone else experienced this?
I am using the Amazon game controller or whatever it's called, if that matters. Wasn't sure if this was a known issue, or do I need to edit/change anything?
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I tried to use a Nyko playpad pro which from my understanding is the same as the fire controller. I noticed a lag with it, basically made most games unplayable. I switched to a xbox 360 controller using the usb receiver dongle and it is working superbly.

barbedwiredave said:
I tried to use a Nyko playpad pro which from my understanding is the same as the fire controller. I noticed a lag with it, basically made most games unplayable. I switched to a xbox 360 controller using the usb receiver dongle and it is working superbly.
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Excellent news, I'll give that a shot, thank you for the reply.

I've had inconsistent lag with a MOGA Bluetooth controller, both on my phone and on my FireTV stick. Sometimes it's spot on, but then other times the lag will get me killed. Old school gaming does not work well with any input lag. I'm glad I read this before buying the Amazon controller.
Now I wonder if I'll find a way to get the XBOX controller to work on the FireTV stick...

Fenix8452 said:
I've had inconsistent lag with a MOGA Bluetooth controller, both on my phone and on my FireTV stick. Sometimes it's spot on, but then other times the lag will get me killed. Old school gaming does not work well with any input lag. I'm glad I read this before buying the Amazon controller.
Now I wonder if I'll find a way to get the XBOX controller to work on the FireTV stick...
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Yah it's kind of strange... Other games seem to work just fine with the controller (and I kind of like the controller). Mostly have played the Sev Zero seems to work just fine with no input lag, felt like just playing any other system, but SNES 9x EX+ or whatever just didn't work well with it.
Hoping to try out the Receiver + 360 controllers today and verify no input lag as someone had suggested.

barbedwiredave said:
I tried to use a Nyko playpad pro which from my understanding is the same as the fire controller. I noticed a lag with it, basically made most games unplayable. I switched to a xbox 360 controller using the usb receiver dongle and it is working superbly.
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I have an xbox360 controller with usb receiver and am getting about 1-2 second lag on keypress. I use the same controller and receiver on my pc and there's no lag. Both are official MS products. I found this thread because I was looking to see if the amazon controller showed similar lag with an snes emulator (Snes9x Ex+). Looks like OP is having the same issue I have with the FireTV controller, but it looks like you aren't having the problem with my same setup, unless you're using 3rd party.
Did you do anything special, or just plugged it in and all was well?

I have both the Nyko playpad and the Xbox 360 wireless receiever. I have noticed lag using both controllers (on most emulators). Playing around with the refresh rate settings in the emulator seemed to help some. Changing the refresh rate to 60 worked the best. Disabling any TV motion effect (120hz or greater) for your Fire TV input also helps, but I don' think the lag is completely eliminated. I'm interested to see if anyone else has ideas/input. It doesn't seem like a controller issue.
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I have an xbox360 controller with usb receiver and am getting about 1-2 second lag on keypress. I use the same controller and receiver on my pc and there's no lag. Both are official MS products. I found this thread because I was looking to see if the amazon controller showed similar lag with an snes emulator (Snes9x Ex+). Looks like OP is having the same issue I have with the FireTV controller, but it looks like you aren't having the problem with my same setup, unless you're using 3rd party.
Did you do anything special, or just plugged it in and all was well?
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The 360 controller + receiver definitely improved for me over the Amazon game controller, but there is still a tiny bit.. I'll try messing around with some settings as well that were mentioned in this thread.
Super Mario World was way more playable though, with the 360 controller + receiver.

esdouble said:
I have an xbox360 controller with usb receiver and am getting about 1-2 second lag on keypress. I use the same controller and receiver on my pc and there's no lag. Both are official MS products. I found this thread because I was looking to see if the amazon controller showed similar lag with an snes emulator (Snes9x Ex+). Looks like OP is having the same issue I have with the FireTV controller, but it looks like you aren't having the problem with my same setup, unless you're using 3rd party.
Did you do anything special, or just plugged it in and all was well?
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I did nothing special, just plugged it into my 4 port hub with 0 lag on NES, SNES, Genesis emu's. It is the official Microsoft wireless dongle, not sure if that matters

barbedwiredave said:
I did nothing special, just plugged it into my 4 port hub with 0 lag on NES, SNES, Genesis emu's. It is the official Microsoft wireless dongle, not sure if that matters
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Interesting. My controller and dongle are both official microsoft products, but I don't have a hub. Is your hub powered? Also, what emulator? I'm mainly interested in SNES at the moment and am using SNES9x EX+

With my DS4 controller it will work beautifully for about 5 minutes then I would get massive input lag .. like minute delays making it absolutely useless .. it also makes my firetv remote useless .. as if the Bluetooth reciever is absolutely jammed up. I have to restart or disconnect controller and wait 5-10 minutes before I can use any bluetooth devices ... soo uhh if you have input lag maybe try a non bluetooth controller
Has anyone else experienced this?

Yep definitely lagging the system with the Xbox 360 dongle. I have to unplug the dongle to make the system stable again.

i have the same probleme here on Fire TV Stick with Bluetooth controller! Is there a workaround or any news??
Perhaps we could write a bugreport to amazon?

I also agree with esdouble, but the thinking of my way the RetroArch emulator is one of the best emulator.

I only came to this thread researching if the Amazon Fire TV controller was any better than my Stratus XL which constantly has input lag issues when playing SNES 9X on my Fire TV 3 Gen which I see is no better.

[Q] severe Bluetooth lag

Hi,
I've been connecting my ps4 controller to my nexus via Bluetooth. I've been using fpse and epsxe emulators. The controller works fine for about 20 seconds then all of a sudden a huge delay happens. E.g if I press x there's about a 2 or 3 second delay. Is there anyway to fix this?
Android version
KitKat 5.0.2
Thanks!

i think its an issue with nexus not maintaing enough juice to the micro usb otg.
i believe its the root cause of my wireless keyboard timing out

Amazon Fire controller 2 with Nvidia Shield TV?

Is this possible? Seems it was previously but I have had no luck so far. Its a Bluetooth controller and should in theory, have no problems, yet its not.
Could this be something resolved in Marshmallow? Or is it a non starter altogether?
Just want some multiplayer action, have a shield controller already and had a fire TV 4k with pad as well.
Thanks in advance

Well that was easy. Turns out the fire controller 2 is WiFi and not Bluetooth. It connects like a charm as a Shield accessory and plays games as it should.
So if anyone, like me reads this and has been struggling like a fool (that was me the past hour) to connect it, its WIFI not Bluetooth. Connect this and a FireTV 2 remote as a shield accessory and away you go.
Edit - voice search also works, which I had seen people stating you most it, or couldn't pair the AFTV voice remote with the Shield TV because of it. Just press and hold and works as it does on the fire box.

Unitedinred said:
Well that was easy. Turns out the fire controller 2 is WiFi and not Bluetooth. It connects like a charm as a Shield accessory and plays games as it should.
So if anyone, like me reads this and has been struggling like a fool (that was me the past hour) to connect it, its WIFI not Bluetooth. Connect this and a FireTV 2 remote as a shield accessory and away you go.
Edit - voice search also works, which I had seen people stating you most it, or couldn't pair the AFTV voice remote with the Shield TV because of it. Just press and hold and works as it does on the fire box.
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Thats actually pretty dope to learn! i havent played with a fire tv controller 2 yet but just seeing the images online it looks like a high quality, sturdy controller. Would be interesting to see how well it performs, and the fact that it works natively with the shield is even more interesting and better. wonder if nvidia just updated the firmware to allow it to work or if they just so happen to use the same protocols?
couple of questions: is the button layout the same? does headphone jack work as well?

unvaluablespace said:
Thats actually pretty dope to learn! i havent played with a fire tv controller 2 yet but just seeing the images online it looks like a high quality, sturdy controller. Would be interesting to see how well it performs, and the fact that it works natively with the shield is even more interesting and better. wonder if nvidia just updated the firmware to allow it to work or if they just so happen to use the same protocols?
couple of questions: is the button layout the same? does headphone jack work as well?
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The headphone jack doesn't work. Just tried with Borderlands and it works, though with some lag on the Shield controller but not the Fire 2 controller.
Every other button functions perfectly though, including clicking in the anologues. As a second player pad, and with the useful voice search function, its pretty cool that I got it connected. Could not find any help online at all.

Unitedinred said:
The headphone jack doesn't work. Just tried with Borderlands and it works, though with some lag on the Shield controller but not the Fire 2 controller.
Every other button functions perfectly though, including clicking in the anologues. As a second player pad, and with the useful voice search function, its pretty cool that I got it connected. Could not find any help online at all.
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Thats awesome man. Thanks for the heads up! Would love to see anyone else chime in to confirm before i consider the plunge on a controller, but its always nice to have another type of gamepad available. Wonder if latency is the same, but I assume since its wifi, it shoudl be at least as good as the shield controller.
Do you know if this works with a pc as well? (via usb of course)

unvaluablespace said:
Thats awesome man. Thanks for the heads up! Would love to see anyone else chime in to confirm before i consider the plunge on a controller, but its always nice to have another type of gamepad available. Wonder if latency is the same, but I assume since its wifi, it shoudl be at least as good as the shield controller.
Do you know if this works with a pc as well? (via usb of course)
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Won't work on PC, not with USB anyway as its not there lol. Surprised me too.
Latency seems on par with stock controller. Been playing Fifa 16 UT for a while and won every game, so no issues with the pad.
I too would like others to test this as I couldn't get any help online and cane across it by chance.

has anyone tried the new apple r emoe does it work?
how do you past the settings menu on the fifq 16 android on the shiled. do you need mouse input?

My problem is that once it connects I lose all audio.
The headphone Jack not working is a real bummer too.

Fifa 16 UT does this game even work? i cant get past main menu

Has anyone tested it on the new 6.0 Marshmallow build?

Unitedinred said:
Well that was easy. Turns out the fire controller 2 is WiFi and not Bluetooth. It connects like a charm as a Shield accessory and plays games as it should.
So if anyone, like me reads this and has been struggling like a fool (that was me the past hour) to connect it, its WIFI not Bluetooth. Connect this and a FireTV 2 remote as a shield accessory and away you go.
Edit - voice search also works, which I had seen people stating you most it, or couldn't pair the AFTV voice remote with the Shield TV because of it. Just press and hold and works as it does on the fire box.
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I managed to connect the Fire TV game controller on StockRestyle Marshmallow, but I cannot get the Fire TV 4K remote to work.
Which version of the Shield TV firmware are you using?
Do you need to press a specific button on the Fire TV remote? I tried Home and the OK buttons (I indeed tried all of them), removing the batteries without any success.
EDIT: I tried a second Fire TV 4K, first try: press Home -> success Thanks
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Has anyone tested it on the new 6.0 Marshmallow build?
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I'm running StockRestyle and I got the Fire TV game controller and the Fire TV 4K remote to work without any issue using the SHIELD accessories tool

JulienPr said:
I managed to connect the Fire TV game controller on StockRestyle Marshmallow, but I cannot get the Fire TV 4K remote to work.
Which version of the Shield TV firmware are you using?
Do you need to press a specific button on the Fire TV remote? I tried Home and the OK buttons (I indeed tried all of them), removing the batteries without any success.
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I'm running StockRestyle and I got the Fire TV game controller to work without any issue using the SHIELD accessories tool, but not yet the Fire TV 4K remote.
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So it's for sure the Amazon Fire TV 2 controller, the newest one right? Did you make sure audio works right? Does the headset function work?
Thanks!!!

Zacharybinx34 said:
So it's for sure the Amazon Fire TV 2 controller, the newest one right? Did you make sure audio works right? Does the headset function work?
Thanks!!!
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Now it's OK, I've just edited my post in the meantime.
Haven't tried yet the headset plug, but the mic is working.
Thanks
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Did anyone try it on full Android Marshmallow?
If that would be working, including the voice search function, that would be great because shield game controllers aren't working wireless on full Android.

JulienPr said:
Now it's OK, I've just edited my post in the meantime.
Haven't tried yet the headset plug, but the mic is working.
Thanks
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Let me know when you get a chance to test it.

Did anyone test it?

i got the 4k remote working, its a bit tricky but eventually worked although at times buggy and need to press repeatedly so its actions changes.
on the previous firmware it was perfect and fast

wakkaday said:
i got the 4k remote working, its a bit tricky but eventually worked although at times buggy and need to press repeatedly so its actions changes.
on the previous firmware it was perfect and fast
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are you talking about the FireTV stick voice remote? as of now i cant get the fireTV stick voice remote to work.... be it as shield accessories or using bluetooth
anyone know how to do it? if yes, how to do it?

I'm having major problems connecting my Amazon Controller 2 to my Shield K1 Tablet.
I go to the app and open it up. The 3 or 4 lights flash on the controller and then solidify. At which point the mouse cursor appears and I can move it around and - if I press home, the app closes.
But at that stage the controller starts searching again, the lights flash.
I've tried holding down the home button, I've tried putting the batteries in only once the apps open. No luck.
The controller works beautfully with my amazon fire tv box.
Anyone want to give me step by step instructions?

boomhaueruk said:
I'm having major problems connecting my Amazon Controller 2 to my Shield K1 Tablet.
I go to the app and open it up. The 3 or 4 lights flash on the controller and then solidify. At which point the mouse cursor appears and I can move it around and - if I press home, the app closes.
But at that stage the controller starts searching again, the lights flash.
I've tried holding down the home button, I've tried putting the batteries in only once the apps open. No luck.
The controller works beautfully with my amazon fire tv box.
Anyone want to give me step by step instructions?
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Hey boomhaueruk,
did you solve the problem? I also want to buy an amazon controller 2 to use it with my atv and nvidia shield tablet. Does it work for you in the end with the tablet?

Zacharybinx34 said:
My problem is that once it connects I lose all audio.
The headphone Jack not working is a real bummer too.
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Did anybody solved this issue!?

ps4 control on BS2

hi, can I use the ps4 control with the BlackShark2? tnks. :good:

SePudrioLaMomia said:
hi, can I use the ps4 control with the BlackShark2? tnks. :good:
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Yes and no. Ds4 works perfectly outside of shark space (the gaming mode) with zero issues.
With sharkspace enabled the ds4 looses connection and fails to reconnect untill sharkspace has been disabled/quit.
We can load sixaxis controller app from inside sharkspace, so in the future with root access (we currently don't have root) it should be usable in its gaming mode. But at present your going to have to play without one of the black sharks main selling points if you want to use your dual shock for.
This is also the case for all my 3rd party controllers, one user has claimed success with an ipega controller, but I've not got one to test, note planning on getting one.
The official controllers for the blackshark 2 are probably going to be the best option for full compatability unfortunately

Thanks bro!! I appreciate the time and dedication in the response, greetings. Maxx.-

Which controller have you guys tried? I tried my wireless controller using otg but seems like it doesn't recognize otg connection ?

Rishabh1x said:
Which controller have you guys tried? I tried my wireless controller using otg but seems like it doesn't recognize otg connection
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I've tried a DS3, ds4, c.t.r.l and a nvidia shield bt controller, none worked inside sharkspace all worked outside.
I also manually changed the master addresses of the controllers aswell via a pc to match the blackshark2 with no success, tried various gamepad mappers also with no success.
As above there's a post on here somewhere someone recogned the i.p.e.g.a controllers work but personally I am not willing to buy one to test, maybe if someone with a legitimate blackshark2 controller would mind sharing the master bt address the controllers use we could use a pc to change our controllers (ds4 etc) to match, and maybe the blackshark would recognise our Bluetooth controllers as the official ones in sharkspace and stay connected.
That's my only other suggestion/idea untill we have Root access, and even then if they connect and they still probably won't, I dunno if there would be input issues caused as a result of the hardware not matching the software
As far as your otg controller is concerned does it connect and function as intended outside of sharkspace?

It doesn't work at all using otg. It says charging device ?

Just tried again, so my controller has two config dinput mode and xinput mode. Turns out one of them works and the other is not recognised. I think the xinput mode is what works and when I switch to it the controller works outside and inside shark space as well. Although, the button are a bit wrong but i remap them in game and i can play fortnite without any issues. I will still buy the black shark gamepad 2.0 though.

Your absolutely correct buddy thank you.
Dinput controllers such as the ds4 are not working inside sharkspace.
The nintendo switch joycons use xinput and work with the blackshark inside sharkspace. I did notice some input lag on the joycons but to be honest I wasnt playing the best game to test a controller. The switch pro controller also uses xinput so will assume that works aswell, but again not got one to test.

I have the Black Shark Gamepad 2.0, which is unfortunately a bit of a disappointment. It has some very strange aspects to it: Y button cannot be mapped in Shark Space mode, it acts as some toggle between touch screen emulation and mouse cursor mode, which I don't understand why someone would use that. It's useless to me as someone who wants it solely for emulators.
When used outside of Shark Space mode, the DPad and the lettered face buttons both register as the same thing A/B/X/Y buttons. Also, the right touchpad does not act like a stick, instead it acts like a mouse.
On top if this, there are no start, select or L3/R3 buttons. This amounts to playing in Shark Space mode leaving you 5 buttons short of a full controller and outside Shark Space to playing 8 buttons short.
I could get the master BT address for you but I am not exactly sure how to do it. Do I just need to pair it to a PC and do... what?

Has anyone tried using the Xbox 360 controllers