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Reset counter with custom RoM?

Hi.
Is it possible to reset the counter flash and keep running on custom ROM and kernel ??
The aim is to keep the warranty.
Thanks
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ppn7 said:
Hi.
Is it possible to reset the counter flash and keep running on custom ROM and kernel ??
The aim is to keep the warranty.
Thanks
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Yes thats possible. However, Your warranty will still be considered void if they find a custom rom on your device...so I dont get it?
Youll need both 0 Binary count and a Stock rom.

Yes i know but if the can't see this like with a SDS they will probably not see the custom ROM because not be able to flash. Im afraid of bricked issue. I mean if i cannot flash anymore. It's better to have counter reset instead of having nothing.
So it's better for me to reset counter even if I'm with custom rom? Is there a tutorial in my case rom custom + custom kernel?
Thanks a lot
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Reset Counter Guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31801078&postcount=3

ppn7 said:
Yes i know but if the can't see this like with a SDS they will probably not see the custom ROM because not be able to flash. Im afraid of bricked issue. I mean if i cannot flash anymore. It's better to have counter reset instead of having nothing.
So it's better for me to reset counter even if I'm with custom rom? Is there a tutorial in my case rom custom + custom kernel?
Thanks a lot
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Two words. Triangle Away.
The tutorial is the same whether with stock/rooted or custom/rooted. The only difference is you'll need to check "reset on boot" with Triangle Away to keep the counter from reading 1.

Thanks guys.
I know for stock rom before send to warranty. But first i reset counter.
But if i do it before flash stock. I will have to do it again after flash stock Rom??
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ppn7 said:
Thanks guys.
I know for stock rom before send to warranty. But first i reset counter.
But if i do it before flash stock. I will have to do it again after flash stock Rom??
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Just uninstall Triangle Away AFTER you've reverted back to stock and unrooted and the counter should remain 0 and read official.
If you haven't had the phone that long, why not do a dry run from stock/unrooted to custom/rooted and then back to stock/rooted (with Triangle Away installed and doing its job of course) and see for yourself.

Thanks bro
I go step by step because im a newbie. I have already rooted and custom kernel rom. I'll read the thread of triangle away and try this.
But if i have some problem i can count on you and all the community ?
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ppn7 said:
Thanks bro
I go step by step because im a newbie. I have already rooted and custom kernel rom. I'll read the thread of triangle away and try this.
But if i have some problem i can count on you and all the community ?
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This is what this place is for.
Just keep mind the community also expects you to use the search function or learn from many existing tutorials here and the internet in general.
If you think you have a problem, chances are many other people have experienced the same and a thread may already exist.

I'll do my best to respect the rules and the community
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here is some possible ways
-Having custom kernel/recovery, still yo can reset counter but for that you need play store version of triangle away, which have option to reset counter at every boot. again to remember you need custom kernel which support this function. this will help you if your device brick in a way when no normal boot is possible (still i doubt any existing custom kernel offers it)
- If device still able to boot normally and you have custom kernel/recovery, you can flash stock kernel and recovery and after that you can reset counter.
-For stock kernel and recovery, you can reset triangle(needs root) and can uninstall triangle away. whenever you need to claim warranty just unroot it.
Last option is safest way who are worrying about warranty.
one more good thing is that, most common cause of brick is SDS, we already have fix for that, though unfortunately someone gets SDS, i have seen lots of cases when even presence of custom kernel/recovery, hardly bootloader can detect it b'coz of emmc read failure and warranty remains intact. in fact i have seen only one case of SDS where download mode showing flash binary count non zero, though i was not ready to believe it was SDS (history what i remember is, one guy have posted here, his GF have got device bricked and claim was rejected b'coz of raised flash counter, her device needed to replace mobo that's it. no further information was there and hard to believe it was SDS by just this much information)

dr.ketan said:
here is some possible ways
-Having custom kernel/recovery, still yo can reset counter but for that you need play store version of triangle away, which have option to reset counter at every boot. again to remember you need custom kernel which support this function. this will help you if your device brick in a way when no normal boot is possible (still i doubt any existing custom kernel offers it)
- If device still able to boot normally and you have custom kernel/recovery, you can flash stock kernel and recovery and after that you can reset counter.
-For stock kernel and recovery, you can reset triangle(needs root) and can uninstall triangle away. whenever you need to claim warranty just unroot it.
Last option is safest way who are worrying about warranty.
one more good thing is that, most common cause of brick is SDS, we already have fix for that, though unfortunately someone gets SDS, i have seen lots of cases when even presence of custom kernel/recovery, hardly bootloader can detect it b'coz of emmc read failure and warranty remains intact. in fact i have seen only one case of SDS where download mode showing flash binary count non zero, though i was not ready to believe it was SDS (history what i remember is, one guy have posted here, his GF have got device bricked and claim was rejected b'coz of raised flash counter, her device needed to replace mobo that's it. no further information was there and hard to believe it was SDS by just this much information)
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Thanks a lot for these details!
I use the perseus kernel andi don't know if he can use the auto reset counter with triangle away?
But if i understand what you said (sorry for my bad english speaking) almost all of the SDS will not avoid the warranty. If it's not a SDS I'm supposed to flash again with download mode?
Si should i try triangle away with perseus kernel?
Thanks again!
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Better ask on perseus forum if this option available, b'coz you have to purchase triangle away from market for that. Though it's welcome if you this way want to support developers.
Another your question possibility of Flashing in non sds case, that is really depends on types of brick you have. Though just flashing is not enough, you need to flash stock kernel and recovery as well you should have device working (booting) normally, bcoz triangle away needs normal booting device. So in case of brick I don't think you may get chance.
Simple advice
If you really worrying about flash counter and warranty, then keep stock maximum use root with reseting counter
Or
Let leave on luck and enjoy custom stuff.
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Thanks for your advice!
I'm waiting for android 4.2.2 stock which normally will increase the battery life or even let the same as 4.1.1 i.e about 7h screen on time with normal use.
I hope it will come quickly maybe this month?
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ppn7 said:
Thanks for your advice!
I'm waiting for android 4.2.2 stock which normally will increase the battery life or even let the same as 4.1.1 i.e about 7h screen on time with normal use.
I hope it will come quickly maybe this month?
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I wouldn't hold my breath- Samsung has been known to delay major firmware revisions unless it has to do with their homegrown software.

clearday said:
I wouldn't hold my breath- Samsung has been known to delay major firmware revisions unless it has to do with their homegrown software.
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What does it mean? That Samsung is known to be late wheb they announce a new firmware?
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ppn7 said:
What does it mean? That Samsung is known to be late wheb they announce a new firmware?
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Well, 4.2 has been around for awhile and Samsung is still stuck at 4.1.2

Yeah they sucks so...
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Root without Knox Trigger has been achieved....for AT&T

Looks like they found a way to root the Note 3 without triggering the Knox flag. Hopefully those guys will release this method for T-Mobile.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2474422

It may have some thing to do with that, they still have a locked bootloader. So they dont have any working recovery yet. Only have root.

mightykc said:
Looks like they found a way to root the Note 3 without triggering the Knox flag. Hopefully those guys will release this method for T-Mobile.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2474422
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shin lucifer said:
It may have some thing to do with that, they still have a locked bootloader. So they dont have any working recovery yet. Only have root.
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I believe this is correct, rooting a device and flashing custom firmware is completely different.

I wonder if only root will be available for us as well,I'm interested in not loosing my Knox warranty. But root would help for greenify and xposed modules.
EDIT: are we able to keep a valid Knox warranty by only installing root and not installing any custom recovery? (TWRP, CWM) has anyone tried this?
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GHOSTIVVI said:
I wonder if only root will be available for us as well,I'm interested in not loosing my Knox warranty. But root would help for greenify and xposed modules.
EDIT: are we able to keep a valid Knox warranty by only installing root and not installing any custom recovery? (TWRP, CWM) has anyone tried this?
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I dont think so. Because we are starting with unlock BL to being with. So the system that is rooting the device take advantage of it, which automatically trips Knox. That's just me conjecturing.
Just wait abit, the phone just came out. I am sure some one will figure out what/how is knox working exactly. Also if you worried about warranty there are plenty of 3rd party warranties available.

Am I the only one who doesn't give a flying fig about Knox? I'm not using it. I have no use for it. Unless I missed something about Knox, it's nothing more that a security protocol that protect business apps on a device. Why would you care if you tripped it if you're never going to use it?

dkb218 said:
Am I the only one who doesn't give a flying fig about Knox? I'm not using it. I have no use for it. Unless I missed something about Knox, it's nothing more that a security protocol that protect business apps on a device. Why would you care if you tripped it if you're never going to use it?
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I am with you

dkb218 said:
Am I the only one who doesn't give a flying fig about Knox? I'm not using it. I have no use for it. Unless I missed something about Knox, it's nothing more that a security protocol that protect business apps on a device. Why would you care if you tripped it if you're never going to use it?
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thinkjoey said:
I am with you
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I think the warranty getting void is the problem for some. Not having an option to go back so you can use the warranty is the problem. So if some thing go wrong people can't use Company warranty because they will know thanks to Knox B.S. And can refuse any help/repair.

I have heard that only Samsung checks the knox flag, so T-Mobile and asurion are just fine if it is otherwise stock
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I use the phone for work. I need to have Knox in good status
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I hope you're right.
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My understanding is that the current rooting for our phone voids the Knox warranty because it installs a custom recovery. If there was a way to follow similar procedures as the Att variant we could have root with valid knox warranty. Does anyone know if the Att rooting method will also work with the T-Mobile model?
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GHOSTIVVI said:
Does anyone know if the Att rooting method will also work with the T-Mobile model?
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I believe the att version of the Note3 is completely different from the t-mobile version.
and
the knox flag is designed to be permanent. There is no way of getting around it, I believe.
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Wait long enough and there will be a counter reset. Lol

I'd love to get this for the T-mobile version - all I want to do is root only so I can change the DPI and use some xposed modules. If I can do this without triggering the Knox flag, that would be great.
I hope a dev out there is willing to look into this.

unlockingsky said:
Wait long enough and there will be a counter reset. Lol
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Lol I hope so. Chanfire has been saying that it will be a PITA to get a counter reset for Knox warranty since it blows an efuse when flashing anything. He said the binary counter can be reset a little easier, but knox status will already be flagged so binary counter reset won't really make a difference in the long run.
All we need is a way to insert root via adb maybe, without requiring a custom recovery to be installed. This will give us valid knox warranty status and root access. I would love to install titanium backup and xposed with greenify to increase battery and add a few other modifications to this amazing phone.

GHOSTIVVI said:
Lol I hope so. Chanfire has been saying that it will be a PITA to get a counter reset for Knox warranty since it blows an efuse when flashing anything. He said the binary counter can be reset a little easier, but knox status will already be flagged so binary counter reset won't really make a difference in the long run.
All we need is a way to insert root via adb maybe, without requiring a custom recovery to be installed. This will give us valid knox warranty status and root access. I would love to install titanium backup and xposed with greenify to increase battery and add a few other modifications to this amazing phone.
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just remember efuse has not been confirmed.
if that is the case rooting, then people will fall into these 4 categories.
1. developers
2. rom/mod enthusiast
3. lucky amatuer
4. guy with nice brick needing a new phone

unlockingsky said:
just remember efuse has not been confirmed.
if that is the case rooting, then people will fall into these 4 categories.
1. developers
2. rom/mod enthusiast
3. lucky amatuer
4. guy with nice brick needing a new phone
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Unfortunately it seems like it's beginning to look more like an efuse...
https://plus.google.com/+Chainfire/posts/LCfF5A9fsTG

Candleclack said:
Unfortunately it seems like it's beginning to look more like an efuse...
https://plus.google.com/+Chainfire/posts/LCfF5A9fsTG
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Yeah, it's unfortunate.
There's actually a big discussion about this over in the S4 forums: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2447832&page=46
I myself am luck that I never updated my bootloader or anything, Knox Counter doesn't show on my Bootloader. (I have the T-Mobile S4, by the way, not the Note 3.)

lawalty said:
I believe the att version of the Note3 is completely different from the t-mobile version.
and
the knox flag is designed to be permanent. There is no way of getting around it, I believe.
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I think there is a way to root note3 without triggering the Knox just like the att note3. But once Knox is triggered there is no way to go back.
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[Help] Disable knox Bootloader 《no0b》

Can any one tell me that. ..how to disable knox Bootloader from 4.3 ..... I recently updated my phone 4.1.2 to 4.3
Now I want to install custom rom....what I have to do?
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Skywalker676 said:
Can any one tell me that. ..how to disable knox Bootloader from 4.3 ..... I recently updated my phone 4.1.2 to 4.3
Now I want to install custom rom....what I have to do?
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You can't. The whole point of KNOX is that once you install it - you can't mess with your phone. Or - better said - you can but the KNOX bit will be set to 1. If you don't care about Knox - you should be able to flash any ROM just fine. But you will loose the ability to run KNOX ever again.

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dalanik said:
You can't. The whole point of KNOX is that once you install it - you can't mess with your phone. Or - better said - you can but the KNOX bit will be set to 1. If you don't care about Knox - you should be able to flash any ROM just fine. But you will loose the ability to run KNOX ever again.
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If knox bit set to 1
it mean my warrenty is voided?

Skywalker676 said:
If knox bit set to 1
it mean my warrenty is voided?
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Of course! Samsung has a strong excuse to void your warranty.

dalanik said:
You can't. The whole point of KNOX is that once you install it - you can't mess with your phone. Or - better said - you can but the KNOX bit will be set to 1. If you don't care about Knox - you should be able to flash any ROM just fine. But you will loose the ability to run KNOX ever again.
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If I've already lost warranty, how do I get rid of the bootloader?

[Q] M919UVUEMK2 Rooting Questions!

Hello All,
I'm currently running CarbonRom on my GS3 (d2spr) but I'm sick of Sprints terrible service so I purchased the SGH-M919 from a T-Mobile store last night and I'm really stuck. Out of the box it's stock M919UVUEMK2.
1. What are my chances of rooting and flashing recoveries, ROMs and kernels? I checked the guide and it only supports the M919UVUAMDL firmware.
2. Is it possible to downgrade to M919UVUAMDL?
3. I absolutely loathe TouchWiz so should I return it to T-Mobile and order the Google Play Edition online? (not crazy about white electronics)
Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks.

You don't lose any changes of rooting and flashing, even with the newest NB4 update.. Just flash a recovery with Odin and flash a GPE ROM or aosp/CM.. You will however trip the Knox counter
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serio22 said:
You don't lose any changes of rooting and flashing, even with the newest NB4 update.. Just flash a recovery with Odin and flash a GPE ROM or aosp/CM.. You will however trip the Knox counter
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Thanks. I'm not familiar with Knox but know that it is bad news. Can Knox be removed or will it brick my phone?

Its not as bad as they make it seem unless you care about warranty, which it technically voids if you trip it
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serio22 said:
Its not as bad as they make it seem unless you care about warranty, which it technically voids if you trip it
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Thanks. So I can root, install CWM and flash ROMs with no interference from KNOX? Would device performance or carrier service be affected in any way?

Xerran said:
Thanks. So I can root, install CWM and flash ROMs with no interference from KNOX? Would device performance or carrier service be affected in any way?
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There is not any performance issue with Knox. It is just an eFuse that Samsung put on the phone to record if you ever installed a non-stock recovery. It gets tripped and no one has found a way to reset it back to 0.
Also, no one has said that Samsung or T-Mobile has not performed warranty work if it has been tripped, but that they MAY not do service on it.
Reading more about it, it seems that the Knox counter may be more tied to Enterprise security, so that an Enterprise or a shop that has BYOP, can check that, and then shut down the phone if it gets tripped. But, can't be sure of that either. It just seems to be there right now. Not sure what they are really doing with it.
Rob

Xerran said:
Thanks. So I can root, install CWM and flash ROMs with no interference from KNOX? Would device performance or carrier service be affected in any way?
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No root needed, just flash a recovery and your ROM of choice, they are all prerooted unless stated otherwise.. But yeah no interference from Knox or device performance or carrier issues
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rlichtefeld said:
There is not any performance issue with Knox. It is just an eFuse that Samsung put on the phone to record if you ever installed a non-stock recovery. It gets tripped and no one has found a way to reset it back to 0.
Also, no one has said that Samsung or T-Mobile has not performed warranty work if it has been tripped, but that they MAY not do service on it.
Reading more about it, it seems that the Knox counter may be more tied to Enterprise security, so that an Enterprise or a shop that has BYOP, can check that, and then shut down the phone if it gets tripped. But, can't be sure of that either. It just seems to be there right now. Not sure what they are really doing with it.
Rob
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Thanks for the insight. I chose the S4 because I figured it a much more mature device in terms of development. I got worried since I paid full price for the phone and did not want any complications.

serio22 said:
No root needed, just flash a recovery and your ROM of choice, they are all prerooted unless stated otherwise.. But yeah no interference from Knox or device performance or carrier issues
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Can you recommend a guide or should I just go the Cyanogenmod installer route? I was thinking about doing that and then flashing CarbonRom.

[Q] Short Knox question

If I trip knox, is there anything more happening despite that my warranty could be void and I couldn't use Knox apps?
(example: not beeing able to flash certain things or entering recovery etc.)
Thank you!

Just the warranty bit nothing else
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fburgos said:
Just the warranty bit nothing else
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Aight, thank you for the quick response man! :good:
maybe one last question,
are there ways to avoid tripping it always, or is it more like "if you go customizing it fully you'll automatically have the Knox triggered"?

Aronuser said:
Aight, thank you for the quick response man! :good:
maybe one last question,
are there ways to avoid tripping it always, or is it more like "if you go customizing it fully you'll automatically have the Knox triggered"?
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to avoid this is by not using odin to flash bootloader\downgrade\custom recovery or custom kernel
if u touch the bootloader\kernel\recovery or downgrade or used odin to do so u will knox it up ... i knoxed my device as
it got into a bootloop

rrgrrg said:
to avoid this is by not using odin to flash bootloader\downgrade\custom recovery or custom kernel
if u touch the bootloader\kernel\recovery or downgrade or used odin to do so u will knox it up ... i knoxed my device as
it got into a bootloop
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Thank you! :good:

You can root using saferoot an customize with xposed framework, remove bloatware and everythin that not involve flashing with Odin
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It's not android without a custom recovery and kernel etc. :laugh:
Also stock was kinda slow!
So I knoxed it up now lol
Gonna install paranoidandroid on it