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I've installed the latest Tmobile 4.4.2 Firmware via SamMobile. I came from M17 4.3. Updated via Odin to Tmobile 4.4.2, I then rooted via CF Auto root (Don't care about Knox at this point) successfully and following that flashed Philz recovery with success.
Everything is all good, as I am familiar with other devices and rooting and booting into recovery. At this point I downloaded the latest SlimKat and Lean Kernel to flash onto my system. Reboot into recovery, flash is a success, however when I reboot the system I start to get a bootloop saying Kernel is not seandroid enforcing set warranty bit: Kernel..I've tried to JUST flash SlimKat with the same results. Following this It continues to bootloop so I am forced to Odin from my PC back to Tmobile stock 4.4.2.
Can someone assist me with a solution? TLR, Custom ROMs/Kernels are not allowing me to boot due to Kernel is not seandroid enforcing set warranty bit: Kernel bootloop
My guess would be that slimkat doesn't support 4.4 bootloader yet.
Oh wow, if it was that simple the whole time..Lol, is there a list of ROMs that do?
Custom kernels will ALWAYS show that on boot.
Dev's turn off the SEANDROID permission crap because not all root apps deal with that permission properly.
Bootloop on the other hand would be a different issue doubtfully related to this.
t3tr1s_ said:
Oh wow, if it was that simple the whole time..Lol, is there a list of ROMs that do?
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You have to read the op of the rom you're interested in. If it doesn't say it supports both bootloaders then it's most probably for 4.3 bl only.
Anthem here says it supports both bl.
I'm confused, can a 4.4.2 ROM only be on a 4.3 BL?
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I'm confused, can a 4.4.2 ROM only be on a 4.3 BL?
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I am not a technical person but how I understand it is that custom recovery/rom flashes doesn't load/replace the bl.
Cm and aosp-based roms were dev'd for 4.3 until a month or two ago when they start supporting both bl and even then not all roms do.
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I'm confused, can a 4.4.2 ROM only be on a 4.3 BL?
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Yes, it sure can.
If you're fully upgraded to the KK package completely, ex: through odin, you have to use a KK rom that has the 4.4.2/Kernel bootloader components.
If you don't fully want to commit to KK completely you can flash a KK rom that has a kernel with the older boot loader. That will allow you to go back to 4.3.
I suspect given time, 4.3 support will be slowly dropped in favor of a full KK implementation on this forum. In the transition period, be careful what you pick and choose to install.
I, like many others, have gone full KK inc. bootloader, etc for full compatibility with everything. When you go full update, you get the updated firmware and bits for the modems, etc.
Thank you very much for all your help, it was the bootloader issue. Just me not reading into things fully, very glad that I asked. I am now running Beanstalk on my Note!
Now that I have all of that cleared up, my next question is the S-PEN. I'm assuming all CM/AOSP ROMs will not support it, thus making me switch to TouchWiz. Is that true? Or are there Apps that I can still use in conjunction with my S-PEN?
As far as TouchWiz is concerned, is Xnote updated to the KK BL and compatible with our Tmobile version? I searched the thread but did not find any answer. If not, what is a suitable replacement to maintain funcionality of the S-PEN while having bloatware removed?
There are apps but it won't give you the full Samsung spen experience like on stock.
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As long as I have a note taking app I think i would be good to go. It's really the only feature I use.
also having this problem
New to this phone and I am running 4.1.2 there is a system update a 4.3 that's already downloaded and ready to install but I wanted to make sure the update didn't install any new locks on my phone before I accept. I plan on rooting soon.
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Rich
U get knox but there are ways to still root with knox so go ahead update
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Uuum hold on. If you plan to root your phone there is no point in allowing the OTA which does install KNOX. Root now and save that extra trouble.
tx_dbs_tx said:
Uuum hold on. If you plan to root your phone there is no point in allowing the OTA which does install KNOX. Root now and save that extra trouble.
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If the poster wants to install 4.3, then accept the update, root, then flash your 4.3 rom.. This way you won't have all those reboot, lock up issues, that people keep on having.. Plus most devs do not have knox filex in their roms.. And you won't have to flash the wifi fix..
I Would Accept It.
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If the poster wants to install 4.3, then accept the update, root, then flash your 4.3 rom.. This way you won't have all those reboot, lock up issues, that people keep on having.. Plus most devs do not have knox filex in their roms.. And you won't have to flash the wifi fix..
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If I was in this position, I would accept the update as doubledragon5 said and move forward with root, etc. I have 4.1.2 right now and want the 4.3 update, but I'm rooted and trying to figure out how to unravel this to get to 4.3 myself.
flashred said:
If I was in this position, I would accept the update as doubledragon5 said and move forward with root, etc. I have 4.1.2 right now and want the 4.3 update, but I'm rooted and trying to figure out how to unravel this to get to 4.3 myself.
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If your rooted, go back to bone stock MC2 like I have mentioned in a few other threads. accept the 4.3 udate from sprint, re-root using the tookit, then flash away...
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If the poster wants to install 4.3, then accept the update, root, then flash your 4.3 rom.. This way you won't have all those reboot, lock up issues, that people keep on having.. Plus most devs do not have knox filex in their roms.. And you won't have to flash the wifi fix..
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If your rooted, go back to bone stock MC2 like I have mentioned in a few other threads. accept the 4.3 udate from sprint, re-root using the tookit, then flash away...
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Thank you! You're the first to shed some light on this for me. To get back to stock using the toolkit, would I need to first flash stock recovery, then Stock Firmware, then bone stock MC2? Afterwards boot in, accept the update, then re-root using the toolkit.
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Thank you! You're the first to shed some light on this for me. To get back to stock using the toolkit, would I need to first flash stock recovery, then Stock Firmware, then bone stock MC2? Afterwards boot in, accept the update, then re-root using the toolkit.
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I'm wondering the same thing. But if we root then accept the OTA won't that enable the knox counter? So that if we now, "flash away".... won't every flash be counted?
Shouldn't we root, then install the custom roms without the knox? Or do the custom roms also include the knox counter tripping mechanism?
I would like to know how this works also.
Thanks.
I just recently came from 4.1.2 rooted running a deoxided stock rom. I didn't do the OTA update to 4.3. I used the TeamRejects Deoxidexed rooted deknoxed stock rom, the updated MK4 modem, and the WiFi fix. It took about 15-20 minutes to get everything done. I needed to download Odin too for WiFi fix. I didn't run the WiFi fix till I knew there was an issue.
Not much of complaint, but I wish there was a kernel like Perseus for TouchWix based roms. The only one I found was Devil Kernel, but for whatever reason, wasn't stable with TeamReject's ROM. I didn't really care for his custom Kernel ajdustment manager and STweaks didn't work with it at all. Ideally, I prefer a stock rooted deknoxed deoxidized bare bones rom (just phone, contacts, google play) so I have a working phone and can access Google Play so I can install the apps I prefer. The closest I found was Classic Rom but it freezes on initial rom load; Plus, I'm not a fan of the colors and the few things he choose to include.
Stock 4.3 Deodexed, deknoxed, Rooted Rom Available?
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I just recently came from 4.1.2 rooted running a deoxided stock rom. I didn't do the OTA update to 4.3. I used the TeamRejects Deoxidexed rooted deknoxed stock rom, the updated MK4 modem, and the WiFi fix. It took about 15-20 minutes to get everything done. I needed to download Odin too for WiFi fix. I didn't run the WiFi fix till I knew there was an issue.
Not much of complaint, but I wish there was a kernel like Perseus for TouchWix based roms. The only one I found was Devil Kernel, but for whatever reason, wasn't stable with TeamReject's ROM. I didn't really care for his custom Kernel ajdustment manager and STweaks didn't work with it at all. Ideally, I prefer a stock rooted deknoxed deoxidized bare bones rom (just phone, contacts, google play) so I have a working phone and can access Google Play so I can install the apps I prefer. The closest I found was Classic Rom but it freezes on initial rom load; Plus, I'm not a fan of the colors and the few things he choose to include.
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So, you came exactly where I did except you with a different ROM. I would like to get from my 4.1.2 rooted up to 4.3 rooted stock,deodexed, deknoxed if at all possible.
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Thank you! You're the first to shed some light on this for me. To get back to stock using the toolkit, would I need to first flash stock recovery, then Stock Firmware, then bone stock MC2? Afterwards boot in, accept the update, then re-root using the toolkit.
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Sorry for not getting back sooner. I have been busy with work, and family things.Use billards return to full stock with counter reset. It installs everything including recovery, boot loader,firemware etc... Then set up your phone, when prompt accept the ota update.. Once done retoot, and flash what ever 4.3 rom you want.. The knox counter will still be there, but if you need a trip back to Sprint, go back to Full MC2 stock, knox counter will no longer be there.. Most 4.3 room do not include the Knox files so no worries there.
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So, you came exactly where I did except you with a different ROM. I would like to get from my 4.1.2 rooted up to 4.3 rooted stock,deodexed, deknoxed if at all possible.
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Sounds like it. The odd part, I have been able to flash Reject's stock deoxidezed deknoxed rom with no problem. I tried to flash Classic 3, but it froze on Classic's initial loading page (the one after the Samsung boot loader). I had issues another rom, but turned out it was for the international model; I wasn't paying attention where I was in the forums.
If you do what I did, you'll need to flash modem update using Odin on the PC. So, you may need to download Odin.
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Depending on what you like to do, you may find 4.3 MK4 more limiting, espcially on the TouchWiz side. AOSP probably more mod friendly at this point. From what I've been able to find, there is only one custom kernal for 4.3 TouchWiz which is Devil's Kernal. It's solid, but my phone was unstable. Not sure if the phone since I may have taken out something it used when I was trying to debloat the phone. Didn't care for his Kernel Tweak manager. Neither the stock or devil's kernal supports Stweaks. Neither I could figure out how to change the boat loading animation.
I have nothing against AOSP projects. I like them. But as far as I know, none support the Spen, which I like to use with web browsers. Don't use the Samnsung Spen apps. Just wasn't that impressed with them, but I see how they can be useful. Although, SketchPro is really nice with it. I just find TouchWiz is more than sufficient for my needs and stock isn't as quirky.
Hey guys,
my GN2 has 4.3 Alliance ROM atm.
I noticed that there are more 4.3+ ROMs available than 4.3 ROMs...
What do I need to do to install 4.3+ ROMs?
I think I had to unroot, install 4.3 Stock, then Jailbreak to go from 4.1.2 to 4.3.
Thanks in advance.
wjdzm said:
Hey guys,
my GN2 has 4.3 Alliance ROM atm.
I noticed that there are more 4.3+ ROMs available than 4.3 ROMs...
What do I need to do to install 4.3+ ROMs?
I think I had to unroot, install 4.3 Stock, then Jailbreak to go from 4.1.2 to 4.3.
Thanks in advance.
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Jailbreak an "android" phone? Well anyways if you want to try 4.4.2 ROM all you need to do is clean wipe your phone via custom recovery and flash any of the 4.4.2 custom ROM.SuperSu is built into the ROM so you'll have root access if for some reason SuperSu crashes when you open it in app drawer just un install it via it's settings and go to playstore to update it and you are done.I am sure you aware of being on mj5 bootloader at least to get wifi working since you are on 4.3 you should have it already.Only thing is any 4.3 bootloaders wouldn't charge the phone with a 4.4.2 TW ROM on it ,it will turn on by itself when charger is plugged in.So if you are out of warranty and don't care about triggering knox when updating your bootloader. upgrade to ND3 bootloader which is 4.4.2 bootloader,but you cannot downgrade bootloader.So it's the choice you got to make which bootloader you'd like to stick to and its pros and cons.
ND3 bootloader
How to flash bootloader
Hey thanks so much for helping me out.
a few questions though.
Only thing is any 4.3 bootloaders wouldn't charge the phone with a 4.4.2 TW ROM on it ,it will turn on by itself when charger is plugged in.
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I charge my phone using external charger so I never directly connect my phone to a charger. I guess this isn't a problem for me?
Can I install 4.3 ROM after installing 4.4.2?
Also what happens if I trigger know while updating my bootloader? does it brick my phone? what's remedy to triggering know?
Thanks again.
wjdzm said:
Hey thanks so much for helping me out.
a few questions though.
I charge my phone using external charger so I never directly connect my phone to a charger. I guess this isn't a problem for me?
Can I install 4.3 ROM after installing 4.4.2?
Also what happens if I trigger know while updating my bootloader? does it brick my phone? what's remedy to triggering know?
Thanks again.
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That shouldn't be a problem if you charge your battery via those external chargers.When Knox is triggered you cannot go back to 4.1.2 ROM only 4.3 and higher ROM are possible.You won't brick your phone while upgrading your bootloader you might brick it while going back to an older bootloader although chances are rare since ODIN would not flash an older bootloader it would just FAIL on you.As of now one cannot reset Knox.
My galaxy siii was rooted before kitkat was out, and I have been using it until now and have not yet update to KitKat yet because AT&T is not part of it any more.
How do I get KitKat on my phone? Do I have to unroot the phone and put it back into AT&T mode to download or what should I do?
this might help.
remember:READREADREAD
BACKUPBACKUPBACKUP
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1802160
good luck
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You will need to unroot your phone and have the stock recovery.
Thank you for both replies gentleman
audit13 said:
You will need to unroot your phone and have the stock recovery.
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I might add to this...if you removed any stock carrier or vendor apps from 4.3 while being rooted...you'll have to restore them via a Titamium Backup or some other way or the OTA update will not install properly. (I realized that the OTA update from 4.3 to 4.4.2 will patch these apps to update them to 4.4.2 compatibility)
If you can't do that or if its unreasonable to do that based on the way the phone was modified while rooted...I suggest flashing the stock 4.3 rom via Odin and then take the OTA.
Id recommend flashing the 4.3 firmware via Odin to begin with. Its starting to seem like a lot of people who even just have to unroot are having problems with the ota. I think Odin flashing stock 4.3 will give the best chance of a successful update.
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I might add to this...if you removed any stock carrier or vendor apps from 4.3 while being rooted...you'll have to restore them via a Titamium Backup or some other way or the OTA update will not install properly. (I realized that the OTA update from 4.3 to 4.4.2 will patch these apps to update them to 4.4.2 compatibility)
If you can't do that or if its unreasonable to do that based on the way the phone was modified while rooted...I suggest flashing the stock 4.3 rom via Odin and then take the OTA.
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I am having this issue. I rooted on 4.3 and removed Google books and newsstand. I then uprooted and did a factory reset , so everything in download mode says "official" but the apps were still missing so I downloaded them from the play store. My question is will this let me get the OTA now or do I have to push the apps to the /system directory somehow? Also if I flash the 4.3 ODIN tar file, will it trip my warranty bit? It's at 0 right now and want to keep it that way until my warranty is up.
The firmware shouldn't trip the bit, but I can't promise that. Im sure its confirmed one way or the other in its thread though.
As for those apps, they'd have to be system apps, so just installing normally won't help. More importantly though, they would also need to be the same version that was originally built into the firmware. The apps you mentioned have seen many updates and using the current versions will not work.
I got the phone 2 weeks ago and it came with 4.3 installed on it. Would I be able to use the current version and just push them to /system/app with titanium backup? I am trying to get the OTA without tripping any warranty or security measures.
I have a T-mobile Galaxy S4, SGH-M919 running android 4.2.2 and want to upgrade to android 4.3. Okay my question is can I remove knox from the update before updating? I HATE KNOX. I saw where over at s4 mini archive they showed a way that they say it can be removed. Any ideas? Anyone tried this? Any other ways to remove??? Any help would be great. I am sorry if this has been posted or asked before, I have not seen it. http://www.s4miniarchive.com/2013/12/how-to-remove-knox-bootloader-from-new.html
Just use this. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2544612 and install a custom rom. Any reason why you want 4.3? You can install 4.4.4 which just came out. Remember to just flash modem only and not the lte modem or you will break sound. If you want to stay completely stock and not have Knox there is no way.
+1 on custom rom. Something like this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2876946
Sorry been a little busy. I'm currently using the MDL bootloader, no knox. I hear there is performance and feature advantage to updating to a newer bootloader. The reason I am looking at 4.3 is that some people have stated that you can remove knox from the bootloader in 4.3. The people stated that they have been able to do this to the S4 mini's 4.3 bootloader. I have looked at the links you two have given me, thank you. What bootloaders are you two using? Also have you seen this as this is what got me thinking. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2549357
Bootloader has nothing directly to do with performance. Be careful what you read.
lalec said:
Bootloader has nothing directly to do with performance. Be careful what you read.
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True. But I would prefer to be 100% knox free. So not just a knox free rom, but the bootloader as well. Staying on android 4.2.2 will do that but at the same time I would like to upgrade to a newer android version. I have seen some nice custom roms with nice performance, but they are 4.3 and newer. And this is why I am looking.
Jamessr79 said:
True. But I would prefer to be 100% knox free. So not just a knox free rom, but the bootloader as well. Staying on android 4.2.2 will do that but at the same time I would like to upgrade to a newer android version. I have seen some nice custom roms with nice performance, but they are 4.3 and newer. And this is why I am looking.
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You can keep MDL boot loader, and flash 4.3, 4.4.2, or 4.4.4 ROMs no problem. I've got an M919 with MDL boot loader and am currently running Dirty Unicorns (4.4.4-based) ROM.
I've got all the benefit of the latest version of Android (plus many customizations!) and no Knox.
The only think that you can't do on the MDL boot loader is run a newer LTE modem... the LTE modem (non-hlos.bin) is tied to the boot loader. However the GSM modem (modem.bin) is not, so you can update that part of it. It's something to keep in mind, but the LTE modem in MDL is fine and works for me quite well even in marginal signal areas.
Marc
Frankenscript said:
You can keep MDL boot loader, and flash 4.3, 4.4.2, or 4.4.4 ROMs no problem. I've got an M919 with MDL boot loader and am currently running Dirty Unicorns (4.4.4-based) ROM.
I've got all the benefit of the latest version of Android (plus many customizations!) and no Knox.
The only think that you can't do on the MDL boot loader is run a newer LTE modem... the LTE modem (non-hlos.bin) is tied to the boot loader. However the GSM modem (modem.bin) is not, so you can update that part of it. It's something to keep in mind, but the LTE modem in MDL is fine and works for me quite well even in marginal signal areas.
Marc
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Thank you for the info. Are you on an AOSP 4.4.4 ROM (Dirty Unicorns)? I'm on the MDL bootloader looking to install a TW 4.4.4 ROM.
HKSpeed said:
Thank you for the info. Are you on an AOSP 4.4.4 ROM (Dirty Unicorns)? I'm on the MDL bootloader looking to install a TW 4.4.4 ROM.
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A stock firmware? If it contains the bootloader, it will automatically replace your existing one.
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HKSpeed said:
Thank you for the info. Are you on an AOSP 4.4.4 ROM (Dirty Unicorns)? I'm on the MDL bootloader looking to install a TW 4.4.4 ROM.
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Yes, it's based off AOSP. See the Samsung home page for Dirty Unicorns here. Also the G+ Community for it.
If you are looking for a TW ROM, I had a great experience with GoldenEye v. 38 over the summer. Very stable, and everything worked, even on my ATT version S4 I337 using SafeStrap. I got sick of SafeStrap limitations and eventually bought a M919 so I could do anything I wanted ROM wise... but GoldenEye was very nice. Debloated, very stable, felt good.
Being very satisfied with my current version of Dirty Unicorns, I'll probably not change any time soon, thought I've been tempted to install SlimKat and build up the features I want. I use SlimKat on a tablet, and like it's very light footprint. Quite zippy.
Marc
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A stock firmware? If it contains the bootloader, it will automatically replace your existing one.
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Just something to remember: Bootloaders (all the bad KNOX junk) CANNOT be flashed via custom recovery. So if you are flashing a stock ROM (firmware?) via custom recovery you will NOT get KNOX. If, however you decide to flash a ROM/firmware via Odin chances are very good that you will be getting a new bootloader and all the KNOX garbage it brings.
TLR
If you flash via recovery you won't get KNOX, if you flash via Odin you probably will.
Modems must also be flashed in Odin, but as far as KNOX goes, it's the bootloader you don't want.
Okay, does this mean I have knox or do not have knox.
Jamessr79 said:
Okay, does this mean I have knox or do not have knox.
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It seems to me like you're still knox-free
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Jamessr79 said:
Okay, does this mean I have knox or do not have knox.
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Yup.
No Knox there.
You would see a Knox warranty line in that bootloader screen if you had it.
Cool, so it worked.
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lordcheeto03 said:
Just something to remember: Bootloaders (all the bad KNOX junk) CANNOT be flashed via custom recovery. So if you are flashing a stock ROM (firmware?) via custom recovery you will NOT get KNOX. If, however you decide to flash a ROM/firmware via Odin chances are very good that you will be getting a new bootloader and all the KNOX garbage it brings.
TLR
If you flash via recovery you won't get KNOX, if you flash via Odin you probably will.
Modems must also be flashed in Odin, but as far as KNOX goes, it's the bootloader you don't want.
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So what you are saying is if I flash a stock zip via custom recover no KNOX? Has this been tested? I removed knox on 4.3 but got crazy and tried 4.4.4 now random restarts.
Jamessr79 said:
So what you are saying is if I flash a stock zip via custom recover no KNOX? Has this been tested? I removed knox on 4.3 but got crazy and tried 4.4.4 now random restarts.
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Yes, what I'm saying has been tested and confirmed 100%. There is no way to flash a KNOX-implemented bootloader (or ANY bootloader for that matter) via custom recovery. You seem to have the misconception that the KNOX apps within the ROM is what all the KNOX talk is about. If anything, it's only a small part. Now, I'm not absolutely certain of how this works as I've only followed the technical posts in the Development only forum regarding this for the first 10 or so pages, so if I say something that isn't exactly accurate, please forgive me. The basic gist is that when you hear about KNOX and why it's not necessarily wanted in the updated firmwares isn't because of a few user-removable apps; it's something at the hardware level that, when during the boot up tests and checks, it notices that there is a custom kernel or custom recovery in place instead of the expected stock kernel/recovery, it blows an e-fuse and forever after tells anyone who looks at the download mode that the device has been modified at one point or another.
About the random restarts, without knowing whether you updated from 4.3 to 4.4.4 via custom recovery or other official means, all I can say is to try a factory reset and/or use Odin to re-flash the firmware and do a factory reset after that.
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Yes, what I'm saying has been tested and confirmed 100%. There is no way to flash a KNOX-implemented bootloader (or ANY bootloader for that matter) via custom recovery. You seem to have the misconception that the KNOX apps within the ROM is what all the KNOX talk is about. If anything, it's only a small part. Now, I'm not absolutely certain of how this works as I've only followed the technical posts in the Development only forum regarding this for the first 10 or so pages, so if I say something that isn't exactly accurate, please forgive me. The basic gist is that when you hear about KNOX and why it's not necessarily wanted in the updated firmwares isn't because of a few user-removable apps; it's something at the hardware level that, when during the boot up tests and checks, it notices that there is a custom kernel or custom recovery in place instead of the expected stock kernel/recovery, it blows an e-fuse and forever after tells anyone who looks at the download mode that the device has been modified at one point or another.
About the random restarts, without knowing whether you updated from 4.3 to 4.4.4 via custom recovery or other official means, all I can say is to try a factory reset and/or use Odin to re-flash the firmware and do a factory reset after that.
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Okay, I misunderstood on what you said could be flashed, but will have to take a look. Could you please point me in the right direction for that forum. As far as the misconception goes I do know that KNOX is in the bootloader. I also know that KNOX app/software is found in the rom as well. As for KNOX being in the rom Titanium Backup helps to remove most of it. Or I can just installing a custom rom that has it removed. The main reason that I had started this forum was to remove the KNOX from the bootloader. The reason I pointed to http://www.s4miniarchive.com/2013/12/how-to-remove-knox-bootloader-from-new.html in the first post is because they stated it could be done. After doing some other looking around and talking to others I tried it. Seems like it works on android 4.3, but 4.4.2 and 4.4.4. when I try to do the same it is not happy. I updated via Odin. The first time was 4.2 to 4.3 after modding the bootloader and not the rom. It works fine no KNOX lines in download mode. Still KNOX in the rom but uninstalled using Titanium Backup. Currently I am running android 4.3 on my Galaxy S4 no issues and as far as I can tell no KNOX.
Jamessr79 said:
Okay, I misunderstood on what you said could be flashed, but will have to take a look. Could you please point me in the right direction for that forum. As far as the misconception goes I do know that KNOX is in the bootloader. I also know that KNOX app/software is found in the rom as well. As for KNOX being in the rom Titanium Backup helps to remove most of it. Or I can just installing a custom rom that has it removed. The main reason that I had started this forum was to remove the KNOX from the bootloader. The reason I pointed to http://www.s4miniarchive.com/2013/12/how-to-remove-knox-bootloader-from-new.html in the first post is because they stated it could be done. After doing some other looking around and talking to others I tried it. Seems like it works on android 4.3, but 4.4.2 and 4.4.4. when I try to do the same it is not happy. I updated via Odin. The first time was 4.2 to 4.3 after modding the bootloader and not the rom. It works fine no KNOX lines in download mode. Still KNOX in the rom but uninstalled using Titanium Backup. Currently I am running android 4.3 on my Galaxy S4 no issues and as far as I can tell no KNOX.
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Wait.... your on 4.3 or 4.2 and have been able to unlock the bootloader on them?? Everything you said above is exactly what I have seen and heard also with the addition that the signatures not matching verification checks are what is blowing the q fuse or what Knox and the Samsung / att security freak out about right?
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I was on 4.2 and downloaded the stock 4.3 to my Linux pc. I then did what was stated on the s4 mini forums and was able to remove Knox from the bootloader, then the rom via titanium backup. Note as far as I know you can't remove Knox once it is already there.