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I have been going from Forum to forum looking for people to comment on ROM's for the LG Optimus G edition phones but most of them are pretty dead. Is this phone just not that good? Im looking at getting the Verizon LG G2 but i am going to be weary if there is minimal software support for the phone
Went through that with HTC, not doing it again.
This phone is incredible but currently has limited support. We will get some Roms but nothing like S4 or HTC One.
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This phone is amazing, support will grow as more countries get the phone. I have been personally reading and watching everything I can find on how to build ROMs, I code websites so I am trying to take that knowledge and apply it.
I say buy it, and that's coming from a S3 that went through hundreds of ROMs, this phone is already better.
The G Pro and G2 are heavily rumored to be on VZW.
If flashing roms (on a daily) is your thing, I'd suggest you don't get either.
But if you're looking for performance, you really can't go wrong with either.
I love the G Pro stock. Its way faster and has more useful features than my old S4.
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ang1dust said:
I have been going from Forum to forum looking for people to comment on ROM's for the LG Optimus G edition phones but most of them are pretty dead. Is this phone just not that good? Im looking at getting the Verizon LG G2 but i am going to be weary if there is minimal software support for the phone
Went through that with HTC, not doing it again.
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Support will grow for this phone and the fact that it's a great phone means it will only get more support once people in other countries get it. This phone is the best I have ever owned and I don't regret selling my note 2 to get it.
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Yup this phone doesnt have support right now but it will surely grow... but as far as i am concerned believe me guys i have owned all the latest phones and have used all the latest roms and on it but this phone beats them all even in stock. I REALLY DONT NEED ANY ROMS FOR THIS PHONE AS IT IS A KILLER EVEN IN STOCK.
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As this phone come in stores next week in Germany, I consider buying it.
But why are there almost no roms although it is out in the US and Asia for quite a while?
In all honesty, this phone does not need ROMs, just root and CWM will give you the ability to add mods.
I have every Rom imaginable available to me.on my Note and use to flash daily.
I haven't touched it since I bought this phone.
I agree this is hands down the best phone i have had since the og x, im coming from the note 2 and have no regrets but the fact is its LG and lg has gotten a bad name the past few years. its a sad thing but i doubt much development will happen. Id rather have a few good kernels than a boat load of roms tho. So if your looking for a phone to go crazy with flashing this isnt it.
justsimple1 said:
Yup this phone doesnt have support right now but it will surely grow... but as far as i am concerned believe me guys i have owned all the latest phones and have used all the latest roms and on it but this phone beats them all even in stock. I REALLY DONT NEED ANY ROMS FOR THIS PHONE AS IT IS A KILLER EVEN IN STOCK.
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I agree. I rooted my phone but not going to touch the ROM. This phone is amazing.
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I agree!
MrDSL said:
I have every Rom imaginable available to me.on my Note and use to flash daily.
I haven't touched it since I bought this phone.
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While I am having withdrawal it is kind of nice to do other things with my life...I do wish someone could get a way to run on T-mobile (more than EDGE) without having to tie two phones together....
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While I am having withdrawal it is kind of nice to do other things with my life...I do wish someone could get a way to run on T-mobile (more than EDGE) without having to tie two phones together....
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Agreed, I used to waste hours a week flashing ROMs on my s3, I'm done.
Mainly, whats the root/unlocking process like with LG phones? Is it as locked down as the new Samsung phones. I have a S3 now and looking to upgrade soon. Liking the G3 but ive never had a LG phone. Do you think the process will be similar to the G2?
In the exact same boat. Sub'd
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Dude I switched to LG with Nexus 4 and I was happy. You will love it after get used to not having touch wiz. Its quality. It was rooted pretty quickly
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I have an s3 also, and waiting for g3 on sprint. I did get a lg gpad first of the year and it was really easy to root, I'm assuming it would be the same for the g3. Fingers crossed
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Cool. Thanks for the responses. I hate TW myself and by the looks of the LG OS im gonna need to flash Paranoid Android as soon as possible.
Not to hijack your thread if you consider it off topic but I wonder whether the bootloader will be easier to unlock on the G3. I did some vague research on the G2 and it seems you need to be on a specific version to install custom recoveries and/or use loki patch. If I'm wrong, please correct me.
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Not to hijack your thread if you consider it off topic but I wonder whether the bootloader will be easier to unlock on the G3. I did some vague research on the G2 and it seems you need to be on a specific version to install custom recoveries and/or use loki patch. If I'm wrong, please correct me.
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thats true ! if you update your G2 with official KK OTA for example you will never be able to use loki ! so no more Custom recovery and root
and, it took the LG FLEX about 6 months for us just to get root, and that was while still on 4.2 JB..
I dont know how the G3 will be, but the FLEX is horrible for anything related to development..
wase4711 said:
and, it took the LG FLEX about 6 months for us just to get root, and that was while still on 4.2 JB..
I dont know how the G3 will be, but the FLEX is horrible for anything related to development..
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But the flex was also a niche phone and not very popular. ... This phone will have a much larger following so things will go faster by having more people working on it
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I do hope things will be easier with the G3. Fingers crossed but realistically, not sure and too early to be sure.
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But the flex was also a niche phone and not very popular. ... This phone will have a much larger following so things will go faster by having more people working on it
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Hope your right, but only time will tell...
I am skeptical. I have the G2, and it took a while to achieve root with Kit Kat, and that was achieved by downgrading the bootloader to a previous version (the Jellybean one, which was loki-susceptible) and modifying the kernel to work with it (G2 devs are awesome). Being that the G3 will be released with Kit Kat and never having a previous loki susceptible bootloader, it might be extremely difficult to achieve root. We'll have to see...
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I am skeptical. I have the G2, and it took a while to achieve root with Kit Kat, and that was achieved by downgrading the bootloader to a previous version (the Jellybean one, which was loki-susceptible) and modifying the kernel to work with it (G2 devs are awesome). Being that the G3 will be released with Kit Kat and never having a previous loki susceptible bootloader, it might be extremely difficult to achieve root. We'll have to see...
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Don't forget that they are leaking photos of developer edition of the G3 .... Could take a bootloader from that also. .. many ways around and our devs are good
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And now the international version is already rooted ....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2766429
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Epix4G said:
Don't forget that they are leaking photos of developer edition of the G3 .... Could take a bootloader from that also. .. many ways around and our devs are good
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Unfortunately, I've never witnessed a developer edition helping with an exploit of a retail version. Well, at least that is the case of Verizon's devices. In fact, seeing photos of a dev edition is kinda discouraging as it suggests that the retail will be most definitely locked down. Maybe it won't be as bad as the Galaxy S5 though (Verizon). Even though I have been exclusivity Samsung for a long time, their Nazi security has forced me to find another brand. Hopefully LG will not try to copy then in that aspect.
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Unfortunately, I've never witnessed a developer edition helping with an exploit of a retail version. Well, at least that is the case of Verizon's devices. In fact, seeing photos of a dev edition is kinda discouraging as it suggests that the retail will be most definitely locked down. Maybe it won't be as bad as the Galaxy S5 though (Verizon). Even though I have been exclusivity Samsung for a long time, their Nazi security has forced me to find another brand. Hopefully LG will not try to copy then in that aspect.
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They will, when they become as big as Samsung. Then it will be time to move on to another competitor A Chinese one, probably.
Guillaume Delarue said:
They will, when they become as big as Samsung. Then it will be time to move on to another competitor A Chinese one, probably.
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All of these companies want corporate business, NOT consumer business; they have to convince corporations that their software/hardware is very secure and un crackable, so thats why they all lock down everything they can, and don't want people rooting/modding/bypassing their security schemes, so dont look for this to change anytime soon, as far as the "big 4" cell phone mfgs are concerned..
My 2 cents, if you value root, do NOT get this phone until it is verified to have an unlocked bootloader on your carrier's version. Do not count on an exploit being found, ever. There are many many sad people in the AT&T and Verizon S5 and Note 3 forums. It has been more than 4 months without root and a huge bounty of around $20k for root. If you normally keep phones for about a year like me that's almost half the life of the phone being locked down. No ad blocking, no titanium backup, no special security apps, and features that have been disabled by the carrier can't be enabled.
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Don't forget that they are leaking photos of developer edition of the G3 .... Could take a bootloader from that also. .. many ways around and our devs are good
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Yeah that's not going to help... you can't just switch bootloaders, if you could do that then it would already be unlocked.
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My 2 cents, if you value root, do NOT get this phone until it is verified to have an unlocked bootloader on your carrier's version. Do not count on an exploit being found, ever. There are many many sad people in the AT&T and Verizon S5 and Note 3 forums. It has been more than 4 months without root and a huge bounty of around $20k for root. If you normally keep phones for about a year like me that's almost half the life of the phone being locked down. No ad blocking, no titanium backup, no special security apps, and features that have been disabled by the carrier can't be enabled.
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Very good point; I know we waited 6 months on the LG flex to get root, so if the G3 follows a similar security scheme, its gonna be a long wait for those getting a G3 in the USA
Hey folks. Looking at the G3, but I'm wondering how good LG has been with keeping their previous phones up to date. I know we have custom roms, but even those tend to be better if made from an official release. Anyone have past experience with LG?
Most of it is due to your carrier, but LG getting it there is on the slower side as well.
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Yes 2 past experiences with lg. One never got updates other OGP still on 4.1.2 in India as launched since last 14 months.
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On g2 which is kinda how they are handling their flagships updates were in line with everyone else
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their "flagship" Flex took 6 months to get kit kat
their G2 took a long time as well months to get it
both on T Mobile
Problem is, you can never really tell if its the mfg or the carrier that makes this process so incredibly s-l-o-w
It was discussed already in all Optimus forums like http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46985909& and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2465663 and here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2491277
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their "flagship" Flex took 6 months to get kit kat
their G2 took a long time as well months to get it
both on T Mobile
Problem is, you can never really tell if its the mfg or the carrier that makes this process so incredibly s-l-o-w
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Of course its your carrier which is to blame. I've bought F320K and have had my kitkat on Christmas present, around 27 December. Yes, stock Kitkat on G2 was available before New Years eve.
yeah, that is probably the case; although, of course, when I would call tmobile and ask why there was no update out, they always said that LG hadnt released it to them, so you can't really know who was feeding the line of BS to folks..
NaveenKumarXDA said:
Yes 2 past experiences with lg. One never got updates other OGP still on 4.1.2 in India as launched since last 14 months.
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wase4711 said:
yeah, that is probably the case; although, of course, when I would call tmobile and ask why there was no update out, they always said that LG hadnt released it to them, so you can't really know who was feeding the line of BS to folks..
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First of all. .. If you believe anything you hear from customer service of any of the u.s. carriers them I have some ocean front property in Phoenix to sell you.... none of them know anything ... They are just lackies who don't really care about their jobs and could really care less about the phones etc .... Yes I will abut l admit their are a couple that do know but 99.99 % are freaking retarded
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agreed; I never call them when I really want to know the "facts"; I do have a inside contact in mgmt at T-Mobile, who all along admitted they weren't sure when kit kat was actually going to be out for the 2 lg phones I have..
my only point was if you are buying a phone from any of the domestic carriers in the USA, you can never really be sure when and if your OS will be updated, so if that's important to you, a unlocked, international model might be a better choice. What annoyed me was the "implied" promise of kit kat, on the G2 and the Flex from LG never actually turned out to be accurate, and, as I said, It took 6 months for kit kat to come to the Flex, which seems crazy, for their "cutting edge, top of the line" product..
Chances are that if you are not receiving updates it is only because your carrier doesn't give a rats ass about your satisfaction. Un-branded and unlocked devices typically receive updates shortly after new versions are released by Google. The order of major manufacturers' speed in updating software goes like this:
Motorola
HTC
Samsung
LG.
I highly recommend unlocked devices if you have the money to spend. However if you a poor schmuck like me and rely on contract devices, then you can either root and flash custom ROMS (say goodbye to warranty) or suffer in eternal damnation like the damn peasants that we are (according to carriers).
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mediumsteak said:
Chances are that if you are not receiving updates it is only because your carrier doesn't give a rats ass about your satisfaction. Un-branded and unlocked devices typically receive updates shortly after new versions are released by Google. The order of major manufacturers' speed in updating software goes like this:
Motorola
HTC
Samsung
LG.
I highly recommend unlocked devices if you have the money to spend. However if you a poor schmuck like me and rely on contract devices, then you can either root and flash custom ROMS (say goodbye to warranty) or suffer in eternal damnation like the damn peasants that we are (according to carriers).
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I have both G & G Pro unlocked but never got update since last year .
NaveenKumarXDA said:
I have both G & G Pro unlocked but never update since last year .
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Korean version will be the first device to be updated.
Only then LG will work on Int'l version.
Of course US Residents(Tmo,att,verzion,sprint etc..) will get updates later than the int'l version due to carriers.
As far as I know, G2 int'l version got kitkat two or three months later the Korean version got it...
I know this so well because I have been watching LG from Optimus LTE2 (Currently using)... (G G Pro G2 GFlex Gpro2) - I am Korean
Samsung and HTC used to be notorious for slow updates, now LG has the tag. With any of the new Flagships (S series, M series, G series) updates will be in line with each other. My G2 got Kit Kat on T-Mobile before my wifes HTC M7 did.
Hi, I just wondered how LG is at upgrading the Android versions. Like do they come quick? Are they good and mostly bug-free? Etc etc. Thinking about buying the glorious G4 because it's beautiful and I need a new phone. Probably going to run custom roms tho, but if I choose not to I'd like to know how LG is at android-updates
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Hi, I just wondered how LG is at upgrading the Android versions. Like do they come quick? Are they good and mostly bug-free? Etc etc. Thinking about buying the glorious G4 because it's beautiful and I need a new phone. Probably going to run custom roms tho, but if I choose not to I'd like to know how LG is at android-updates
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I switched from Sammy note 1 to G2 then G3 and now have both G3 & G4. Never need run custom ROM B4. Only Stock ROM and Cloudyfa's Stock ROM. I just love the LG UX.
Now with G4 's UX 4.0 simply awesome. No lagging for me for I only have G4 for 2 days and no root. IDK what to tell you try it don't like it just return it xD. Even my 1 year old low end LG Gpad 7.0 V400 got Lollipop OTA update in April. What to complain when LG USA MOBILE send me a Brand New LG G4 H815 to keep.
Great story, but can you answer the question the Op asked? How quickly do LG put out updates, eg. how quickly did they update from kitkat to lollipop?
Yeah, I'm wondering because it took my Z3 about an eon to update from 4.4.2 to 5.0.1, and that I really did not like. But hopefully this is an easier device to fiddle with when it comes to root and recovery than my old Z3, which was a pain in the butt sometimes. Had a good experience with my previous LG Optimus 4X HD when it came to getting it rooted with custom recovery, but man that phone is so old that it just lags when you barely look at it.
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Great story, but can you answer the question the Op asked? How quickly do LG put out updates, eg. how quickly did they update from kitkat to lollipop?
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How fast? I remember G3 is the first to get Lollipop b4 nexus. The leaked version was out earlier. Here the articles
http://www.engadget.com/2014/11/09/lg-first-with-lollipop-upgrades/
So there.
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How fast? I remember G3 is the first to get Lollipop b4 nexus. The leaked version was out earlier. Here the articles
http://www.engadget.com/2014/11/09/lg-first-with-lollipop-upgrades/
So there.
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True, but also keep in mind (stock) Lollipop for some devices is still FUBAR. For example t-mobile G3.
OP: In the end 90% of the delay in a device getting an update is not the manufacturer, Its the carrier. That's why things like Nexus phones and GE phones were able to get updates fairly rapidly. The manufacturer takes the source, compiles with/against their own custom code and a bit of testing and its done. This should likely take less than 2 weeks after source drop.
What takes so long is carriers with all their bloat (getting it to work) and also making sure they have locked you down enough to make them happy and to keep any lucrative government contracts they have that require a certain immutability of the phones core OS for security reasons. This part can take months. My kids LG Stylo is T-mo branded and the T-mo my account app still crashes all the time.
rogconnect said:
How fast? I remember G3 is the first to get Lollipop b4 nexus. The leaked version was out earlier. Here the articles
http://www.engadget.com/2014/11/09/lg-first-with-lollipop-upgrades/
So there.
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Thanks for the info... Not sure what the childish 'so there' was about though!
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True, but also keep in mind (stock) Lollipop for some devices is still FUBAR. For example t-mobile G3.
OP: In the end 90% of the delay in a device getting an update is not the manufacturer, Its the carrier. That's why things like Nexus phones and GE phones were able to get updates fairly rapidly. The manufacturer takes the source, compiles with/against their own custom code and a bit of testing and its done. This should likely take less than 2 weeks after source drop.
What takes so long is carriers with all their bloat (getting it to work) and also making sure they have locked you down enough to make them happy and to keep any lucrative government contracts they have that require a certain immutability of the phones core OS for security reasons. This part can take months. My kids LG Stylo is T-mo branded and the T-mo my account app still crashes all the time.
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That's exactly why I always go for sim-free phones and avoid the networks/carriers - much better chance of getting updates sooner (although I appreciate the short-term expense makes this unavailable to some).
Unless you have a Nexus device, I wouldn't even hope to get updates. The G2 was slow as hell, and only received 1 update ever with TMO.
Updates from LG are really good and fast. I have G3 and I can not complain.
Great story
hopefully lg goes straight to android m
Depends on the device. In the UK no G2s have Lollipop yet. Not even SIM free ones.
It could be the fact that the G4 is a fairly new phone...it just seems like this forum is a ghost town. I personally love my new phone and I hope development gains some momentum.
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Once a safe root is released things will pick up. After a bootloader solution is found, things will get crazy I'm sure.
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I'm wondering why this place is empty as well. If you head on over to the Android Central blog, there's quite a bit more activity and discussion going on.
Most people are hanging out in the general G4 forum, as there really isn't anything specific to the Verizon G4 when you don't have root.
That a a valid point. I think I'll stop by the lg g4 forum on my lunch break.
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Most people are hanging out in the general G4 forum, as there really isn't anything specific to the Verizon G4 when you don't have root.
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Exactly. Add to that the fact that for the first several weeks, there was only the general G4 forum. The carrier-specific forums are a recent addition. A lot of people had already started engaging in conversations in the general G4 forum and simply became used to going to there.
Just picked up my G4 this week (coming from a G2) I've been following the board since the phone was announced. As mentioned, the carrier specific boards tend to lag behind the general board (which I'm spending the majority of my time (reading) as well).
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Once a safe root is released things will pick up. After a bootloader solution is found, things will get crazy I'm sure.
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Eh, I dunno about that. Samsung and HTC releasing their flagships at around the same time kinda put our babies in the shadow. Granted, typically they're all always released in the same time frame, LG didn't put much marketing effort into their flagship, even though it's arguably the best phone out ATM. I think it's because the larger portion of sales for LG devices are overseas.