I know it's not recommended to restore system data when flashing to a different rom, but what if I'm just upgrading to a newer version of the same rom (newest nightly build)?
09eric09 said:
I know it's not recommended to restore system data when flashing to a different rom, but what if I'm just upgrading to a newer version of the same rom (newest nightly build)?
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It would depend on what's been changed...
Take a backup and try it. Be sure to restore data, not system apps.
I'm also using TB a lot and trying here and there new ROMs. As long as you restore "Data only" you shouldn't have any problems. At least I didn't until now. Restoring the APP that way - I wouldn't recommend. I got issues very often like unmotivated reboots or APP just stops working after a while and so on. I would recommend do use APP Backup & Restore in combination with TB. After installing a new version of a ROM (mostly I do full-wipe) you can select the Apps you want to restore and they are running the installation process ! (so not just a recover). When I'm done with that I use TB to restore Data only. Didn't have any issues until now with that way. Hope that helps.
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Hey,
I have a question about Titanium Backup. If I understand it properly I have to lose all my apps and data to install or update a new ROM - full wipe - if necessary. Of course I may use Titanium backup but that is quite long process to restore all apps and data again, right? Do I need to tap on restoring every single app to install it etc.? AND may I restore system data as well or it makes no sense when the ROM needs a full wipe?
I really do not understand this properely. I am quite confused.
Thanks.
devcager said:
Hey,
I have a question about Titanium Backup. If I understand it properly I have to lose all my apps and data to install or update a new ROM - full wipe - if necessary. Of course I may use Titanium backup but that is quite long process to restore all apps and data again, right? Do I need to tap on restoring every single app to install it etc.? AND may I restore system data as well or it makes no sense when the ROM needs a full wipe?
I really do not understand this properely. I am quite confused.
Thanks.
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When I do a full wipe for a new ROM, google/market will reinstall all the apps I had and I just restore the missing apps/games that I had settings or saves for. I'd recommend to do a full backup and try yourself to see what works for you.
do not make a system backup cause it'll give you only loads of fc. Backup only installed apps. You don't have to restore app by app if you have a titanium backup pro or donate than it's doing everything for you.
If you are switching roms, you should only restore apps+data.
There is a batch mode that allows you to restore all of it at one go.
I haven't used system yet but i'm guessing you could restore some of you system setting if you do a factory reset?
You can always use something like appbrain to sync you apps again, then use titanium backup just to restore the data.
venomrat said:
If you are switching roms, you should only restore apps+data.
There is a batch mode that allows you to restore all of it at one go.
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I do this after each full wipe and new rom - it's a single click batch operation using the free version of Ti.
Hi folks... I'm fairly new to flashing ROM's (i know how to flash them and such) but I have a question about backups and restores of roms....I have searched and just dont see the exact wording im looking for.
Ok, So, I have clockwork, and rom manager and have done a backup of my rom.
Here is my question that isnt quite so clear to me.
When I flash a new rom, or say update one that I have where you have to wipe everything.... are these backups here to restore all of your programs and such to where you dont have to go back in and re-download everything when you have a new fresh rom installed.
Id love to try out a bunch of roms.. but I just hate having to go and re-download all of my programs each time I put a new one on... if that is how it has to be then so be it...
I just dont really know exactly what the backups im doing are for, or what they do.
Thanks for your help.
When I flash a new rom, or say update one that I have where you have to wipe everything.... are these backups here to restore all of your programs and such to where you dont have to go back in and re-download everything when you have a new fresh rom installed.
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Somewhat. A nandroid backup is a COMPLETE backup of your entire phone at the point you make the backup. All your apps, calls, texts, etc will be exactly like you made the backup. That's the beauty of nandroid backups, you can make one, try a new rom, and if you dont like it, restore your backup and there is no hassle re-installing apps and changing settings.
However, when you install a new rom, you have to wipe everything. So when flashing a new rom, you will not have anything, you will have to re-install your programs.
There are backup programs that will allow you to backup before a wipe and flash when installing a new ROM. You can then restore the user apps and data. You can also restore SOME system data but you have to be careful and it may be a trial and error process when restoring.
I use Titanium Backup. Some people also use MyBackup Root. I found that when I restored some of my apps with MyBackup they would Force Close when I tried to run them after a restore. That has not been the case with Titanium.
I have Titanium set to restore the apps to the original location. That way my apps restore to internal (DATA) or the the SD Card depending on where they were originally installed.
My process when I flash a new ROM:
- Backup all user apps + Data and System Data with Titanium.
- Nandroid Backup using Amon_RA
- Wipe System, Data, Dalvik and Cache
- Flash the ROM
- Reboot
- Create google account, etc.
- Install Titanium from the market.
- Restore user apps + data using titanium
You can also restore some system data. Depending on the ROM (and how different it was from the original) that can cause problems. If that happens go back to wipe and reflash the ROM again without restoring the system data.
I have had no problems restoring things like my SMS Messages and Call Logs. You can get into problems when you start restoring things like system settings or HTC Sense settings, etc.
Thank you both for the replies. This is exactly what i needed to know. I hope this thread helps others with similar questions.
There is one thing. CWM and ROM Manager have a history of not being reliable with backups.
Your best bet is to get Amon Ra and use that to make Nandroids.
4 I always have on my phone are my Stock/Rooted, my last ROM I was on, fully setup, my Current ROM, basic, before I restore and programs or apps/data, and my current ROM all setup.
If I flash a new ROM, I can just delete my older complete setup.
Hi all,
About to root and rom for the first time on any phone and I was wondering a few things.
First, after I install clockwork mod recovery, I can make a backup... Does this backup have the ability to restore all of my apps and data after I install a custom rom? Also, does it restore things like homescreen widgets, app settings etc as well?
Secondly, after I install the rom of my choice, how does updating it to a newer version work? Will updating to a newer version wipe my phone completely or is it like receiving a stock ota update in that it doesn't erase anything?
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1) The backups in clockworkmod are of your entire phone. Without a 3rd party app such as titanium you won't be able to restore specific pieces of it. IMO clockworkmod backups are meant to be used to restore your entire phone if something goes wrong. Titanium has a feature where you can restore specific stuff from the backups, but I would recommend creating backups via titanium rather than relying on what was done in clockworkmod. Personally, I backup everything with titanium then do a backup in clockworkmod before I flash a rom. App settings will restore, widgets do but many times you'll have to add them again because they restore with placeholders for whatever reason.
2) Updating a rom is dependent on the specific rom and often the version. Some roms you can just flash over what you're running, sometimes an update will be significant enough to require a wipe. Even if a rom doesn't require a wipe, I'd advise at least doing a backup.
I mean will it cause problems with the new rom if I restore apps + data using titanium backup from a different rom
I always restore *user* apps/data with tb after flashing a new ROM. If an app acts up, I wipe its data. If it still acts up, I delete it. But usually everything works OK. I don't restore *system* apps/data because it causes too many problems.
Ryu234 said:
I mean will it cause problems with the new rom if I restore apps + data using titanium backup from a different rom
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Personal experience I have never had any problems restoring just user apps from one ROM to another or even from one phone to another. Many people seem to have some thing against Titanium Backup but I strongly suspect they are holding it wrong.
I'm just wondering, If I backup my tab (data files, apps, etc.) using CWM, then flash CM12, can I advance restore my apps and data files into it without problems? Im afraid I don't want to download again all of my apps after installing CM12..
nephilim1 said:
I'm just wondering, If I backup my tab (data files, apps, etc.) using CWM, then flash CM12, can I advance restore my apps and data files into it without problems? Im afraid I don't want to download again all of my apps after installing CM12..
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Most likely not. Pretty much any other base (you didn't say what you were coming from. CM11?) going to CM12, migrating user data like that (same as a "dirty flash") will cause major issues (not booting into OS is the likely result).
Just use Titanium Backup to migrate your apps and app data. That worked fine for me going to CM12.
redpoint73 said:
Most likely not. Pretty much any other base (you didn't say what you were coming from. CM11?) going to CM12, migrating user data like that (same as a "dirty flash") will cause major issues (not booting into OS is the likely result).
Just use Titanium Backup to migrate your apps and app data. That worked fine for me going to CM12.
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I forgot, I came from stock. By the way, I decided to download again the apps that I needed. Thanks anyway for the info.
nephilim1 said:
I forgot, I came from stock.
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Going from Sense to CM12, its definitely a bad idea to try to migrate data. Downloading the apps again is certainly an option; although a cumbersome one, and of course this just restores apps and not the app data (may or may not be a big deal in your case). For anyone flashing ROMs, I'd recommend checking out Titanium Backup for very reliable and easy backup and restores of apps and app data. And its worth it to pay the few dollars to get the Pro key to unlock all the features, including the batch functions, which allow you to backup and restore all your apps (or filter as you like) with just a few taps.
In particular Titanium Pro can extract apps and app data from Nandroid backups.