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Titanium Backup

Hey,
I have a question about Titanium Backup. If I understand it properly I have to lose all my apps and data to install or update a new ROM - full wipe - if necessary. Of course I may use Titanium backup but that is quite long process to restore all apps and data again, right? Do I need to tap on restoring every single app to install it etc.? AND may I restore system data as well or it makes no sense when the ROM needs a full wipe?
I really do not understand this properely. I am quite confused.
Thanks.

devcager said:
Hey,
I have a question about Titanium Backup. If I understand it properly I have to lose all my apps and data to install or update a new ROM - full wipe - if necessary. Of course I may use Titanium backup but that is quite long process to restore all apps and data again, right? Do I need to tap on restoring every single app to install it etc.? AND may I restore system data as well or it makes no sense when the ROM needs a full wipe?
I really do not understand this properely. I am quite confused.
Thanks.
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When I do a full wipe for a new ROM, google/market will reinstall all the apps I had and I just restore the missing apps/games that I had settings or saves for. I'd recommend to do a full backup and try yourself to see what works for you.

do not make a system backup cause it'll give you only loads of fc. Backup only installed apps. You don't have to restore app by app if you have a titanium backup pro or donate than it's doing everything for you.

If you are switching roms, you should only restore apps+data.
There is a batch mode that allows you to restore all of it at one go.
I haven't used system yet but i'm guessing you could restore some of you system setting if you do a factory reset?

You can always use something like appbrain to sync you apps again, then use titanium backup just to restore the data.

venomrat said:
If you are switching roms, you should only restore apps+data.
There is a batch mode that allows you to restore all of it at one go.
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I do this after each full wipe and new rom - it's a single click batch operation using the free version of Ti.

[Q] Changing roms w/o deleting ur data n apps

Is that any ways of flashing new rom without the need of delete all my data n apps?

honglajiao said:
Is that any ways of flashing new rom without the need of delete all my data n apps?
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this is why we have Titanium Backup...
1. use it to backup all user apps + data
2. nandroid backup
3. full wipe, flash new rom
4. install TB if the ROM doesn't come with it, then restore all user apps + data
don't backup and/or restore system data betwen ROMs, as they're often incompatible and will screw things up

No, You need to delete them, but the poster above me has the solution

eddiehk6 said:
this is why we have Titanium Backup...
1. use it to backup all user apps + data
2. nandroid backup
3. full wipe, flash new rom
4. install TB if the ROM doesn't come with it, then restore all user apps + data
don't backup and/or restore system data betwen ROMs, as they're often incompatible and will screw things up
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Back your app data only (you can sync contacts and calendar from Gmail) and restore after you have installed all your apps. TB is not compatible with all ROMa, you can have problems. Use NANDROID backups to investigate which way works best.
Cheers

Coempi said:
Back your app data only (you can sync contacts and calendar from Gmail) and restore after you have installed all your apps. TB is not compatible with all ROMa, you can have problems. Use NANDROID backups to investigate which way works best.
Cheers
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good point, though have not known of TB incompatibilty between roms.
@honglajiao you might as well still backup all user apps and data, because TB can still restore the data separately.
in addition to using google to backup/sync contacts, SMS backup+restore (free in market) is good for texts.
and once again, don't backup/restore system data!

eddiehk6 said:
good point, though have not known of TB incompatibilty between roms.
@honglajiao you might as well still backup all user apps and data, because TB can still restore the data separately.
in addition to using google to backup/sync contacts, SMS backup+restore (free in market) is good for texts.
and once again, don't backup/restore system data!
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+1 for SMS backup and restore. Simple, but excellent.
Cheers

There is a way to try and that is to delete dalvik-cache between flashing roms. But because of the huge difference in design of roms nowadays, it is difficult to implement. Supernova does not require a wipe before flashing because my script migrates even Froyo to Gingerbread without issues..

You can use the ic scirpt to install your apps at boot and tb to restore data.

[Q] Google Talk no longer functions after titanium restore

I swapped out Roms (went from Stock 4.0.4 to deoxed/rooted stock 4.0.4 to AOKP v25 4.0.3 and then back to deoxed/rooted stock 4.0.4) and then restored from a titanium backup, and now google talk will no longer function.
The whole reason I left the AOKP rom is because gtalk wasn't working, so I assumed it was an issue with the ROM.
I've tried uninstalling it (root uninstaller) and restoring it, I've tried wiping the data, deleting the cache, etc. Unfortunately, it's not available on the market, so the only way I can reinstall it is via my single titanium backup. Anyone have any ideas?

Why did you restore app and data when all you had to do was flash gapps? Especially gapps from different versions nevertheless.
Yeah, it isn't the rom but user error so it seems.

The app and data was from a backup taken before I went to AOKP (stock, rooted, deodexed 4.0.4), so they're the same versions I'm trying to restore back onto my phone now that I'm back on that version.
Secondly, I am restoring everything so I don't have to recustomize everything and all of my old system settings come back in. Pretty sure this is standard practice? Perhaps if you didn't have a solution you could keep your snooty responses to yourself?

apols said:
The app and data was from a backup taken before I went to AOKP (stock, rooted, deodexed 4.0.4), so they're the same versions I'm trying to restore back onto my phone now that I'm back on that version.
Secondly, I am restoring everything so I don't have to recustomize everything and all of my old system settings come back in. Pretty sure this is standard practice? Perhaps if you didn't have a solution you could keep your snooty responses to yourself?
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"Restoring everything" from Titanium is probably restoring your problem too. When I flash a new rom with a wipe it takes me 15-20 minutes to let Google restore my apps, restore data only to specific non-system apps with Titanium, re-do my settings customizations.
Give it a try and maybe your stuff will work too.
Good luck.

Well I just said screw it, and restored from a nandroid backup I had taken instead of the Titanium version and everything is working fine.

Geezer Squid said:
"Restoring everything" from Titanium is probably restoring your problem too. When I flash a new rom with a wipe it takes me 15-20 minutes to let Google restore my apps, restore data only to specific non-system apps with Titanium, re-do my settings customizations.
Give it a try and maybe your stuff will work too.
Good luck.
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Yea, you're probably right. I'd used nandroid backups previously and just wanted to give titanium pro a shot with a full batch restore. Looks like I'll stick to using that for individual one-offs and nandroid for entire system backups. Thanks!

apols said:
Yea, you're probably right. I'd used nandroid backups previously and just wanted to give titanium pro a shot with a full batch restore. Looks like I'll stick to using that for individual one-offs and nandroid for entire system backups. Thanks!
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You can restore apps + app data, but its really never a good idea to restore system data, especially as a batch restore. If you must restore them, you should be a little more selective.
TiBU restore can be useless for a lot of things, especially on something like Google Talk, where you get it automatically with a GAPPS flash and it restores everything for you when you sign in.

Pretty simple actually, if a restored app is problematic, DON'T restore... especially not gapps like gtalk....
Everyone told you the same thing and I was the first. somehow that offended you at first, ungrateful egoist sunflower in a greenhouse with a fragile emotional issues being butthurt over nothing more like it.

TWRP Backup and Restore

I have Titanium backup, but noticed that TWRP also provides a backup and restore. I think I've restored all of my apps by restoring the "data" after a ROM install (at least that's what it appears to have happened). Can anyone verify or is there another partition/folder that I should backup as well for app restoration.
Separate question - I know many people favor Titanium backup - but has anyone started using TWRP for their backup/restores?

using TWRP to restore data is the same as restoring data with CWM
TiBu lets you pick what you want to restore, which is why its preferred. also, if i remember correctly, restoring data with twrp/cwm restores system data, which is bad.

I think you are confusing an app that has backup functions (TiBu) with a recovery, which does Nandroid backups (TWRP).

I'm not confusing them. TWRP backs up data, system, cache...etc. Titanium backs up specific apps. I understand that difference, but if I want to back up all my apps, I just back up my data and restore after I flash the new ROM. It's worked so far.....and I don't have to keep reinstalling Titanium every time.
EDIT: So I guess that's my question - if I want to backup my apps and settings, would I be missing anything to just restore "data"?

BTW I have been using my data backup in TWRP after flashing ROMs and it works flawlessly.....all my apps are there.....in case anyone is interested. Currently running ParanoidAndroid.
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You probably shouldn't be just restoring /data when you flash a new ROM. In addition to your apps, /data also contains your system settings which may not be compatible with all ROMs. Flashing custom ROMs is not for the lazy, just use Titanium if you need to restore your apps.

Open Titanium Backup. Go to option>>Batch Actions.
Here you can backup all the apps(system,user system+user) including data on a single click.. And this process is totally safe. Just you have to install Titanium backup manually after installing new ROM. then it will restore all your apps with the data on a single click.

Back up and Restore

I'm just wondering, If I backup my tab (data files, apps, etc.) using CWM, then flash CM12, can I advance restore my apps and data files into it without problems? Im afraid I don't want to download again all of my apps after installing CM12..

nephilim1 said:
I'm just wondering, If I backup my tab (data files, apps, etc.) using CWM, then flash CM12, can I advance restore my apps and data files into it without problems? Im afraid I don't want to download again all of my apps after installing CM12..
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Most likely not. Pretty much any other base (you didn't say what you were coming from. CM11?) going to CM12, migrating user data like that (same as a "dirty flash") will cause major issues (not booting into OS is the likely result).
Just use Titanium Backup to migrate your apps and app data. That worked fine for me going to CM12.

redpoint73 said:
Most likely not. Pretty much any other base (you didn't say what you were coming from. CM11?) going to CM12, migrating user data like that (same as a "dirty flash") will cause major issues (not booting into OS is the likely result).
Just use Titanium Backup to migrate your apps and app data. That worked fine for me going to CM12.
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I forgot, I came from stock. By the way, I decided to download again the apps that I needed. Thanks anyway for the info.

nephilim1 said:
I forgot, I came from stock.
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Going from Sense to CM12, its definitely a bad idea to try to migrate data. Downloading the apps again is certainly an option; although a cumbersome one, and of course this just restores apps and not the app data (may or may not be a big deal in your case). For anyone flashing ROMs, I'd recommend checking out Titanium Backup for very reliable and easy backup and restores of apps and app data. And its worth it to pay the few dollars to get the Pro key to unlock all the features, including the batch functions, which allow you to backup and restore all your apps (or filter as you like) with just a few taps.

In particular Titanium Pro can extract apps and app data from Nandroid backups.