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[Q] S-OFF & Root

I am having HTC One M7 4.4.2 and I want to root it and S-OFF. Because I use it international and cannot update without CDMA, also too much bloatware from Verizon. How can I get root? I installed weaksauce 2 but when I install SuperSU it fails. Also is firewater working? I have a copy of firewater that I used for my M8 but when I follow instructions nothing happens...

CheateR92 said:
I am having HTC One M7 4.4.2 and I want to root it and S-OFF. Because I use it international and cannot update without CDMA, also too much bloatware from Verizon. How can I get root? I installed weaksauce 2 but when I install SuperSU it fails. Also is firewater working? I have a copy of firewater that I used for my M8 but when I follow instructions nothing happens...
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It can be done quick - easy for $25. Is called Sunshine. http://theroot.ninja/

michaelbsheldon said:
It can be done quick - easy for $25. Is called Sunshine. http://theroot.ninja/
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Jump in....just a thought,maybe the makers of sunshine should drop the price for like a week or less and see how many thousands they make...
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WelfareBaby said:
Jump in....just a thought,maybe the makers of sunshine should drop the price for like a week or less and see how many thousands they make...
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This has been discussed many times, although everyone is entitled to they're opinion, alotta ppl don't seem to think about the 1000's of man hours and all the devices that the devs of sunshine have hard bricked in the process of giving us this exploit... And they've also provided us with PLENTY of free exploits in the past, so $25 is more than reasonable, especially considering it obviously wasn't an easy thing to come up with, considering they're the ONLY ones who have been able to crack/ slay the dreaded S-on / S-off Dragon.. I've said it MANY times, n I'll say it again, best$25 I ever spent.

bdizzle1686 said:
This has been discussed many times, although everyone is entitled to they're opinion, alotta ppl don't seem to think about the 1000's of man hours and all the devices that the devs of sunshine have hard bricked in the process of giving us this exploit... And they've also provided us with PLENTY of free exploits in the past, so $25 is more than reasonable, especially considering it obviously wasn't an easy thing to come up with, considering they're the ONLY ones who have been able to crack/ slay the dreaded S-on / S-off Dragon.. I've said it MANY times, n I'll say it again, best$25 I ever spent.
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I hear you partner I just broke my nexus4 and bought this one so money little tight right now.In the near future I see me purchasing this..
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WelfareBaby said:
I hear you partner I just broke my nexus4 and bought this one so money little tight right now.In the near future I see me purchasing this..
Sent from my HTC6500LVW using XDA Free mobile app
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Gotcha. Yeah like I said, it really is the best$25 I ever spent, if u plan on having the phone awhile, n like being able to customize as u please, I'd definitely recommend it. Especially considering its only gonna get harder and harder to gain S-off as time goes by. And for us Verizon guys, it's a double win, since we can't get bootloader unlocked through htcdev, and sunshine does it.

s-off and bootloader unlock question

Hi all!
Just picked up an M9 this week... Had an M8 prior to that. I've been reading through the forums and spent some time on the M8 forums flashing, testing, and customizing the phone with Roms. I've been reading about the M9 and have noticed some mention that Verizon is firm about a locked bootloader and all. I was curious how on the M8, S-off and unlocking the bootloader was achieved if Verizon is so strict about keeping the phone locked down? Thanks for any responses in advance Looking forward to customizing this beast of a phone. Thank you to all the Devs that make all of this possible!
Cheers,
Ren

hackjunk said:
Hi all!
Just picked up an M9 this week... Had an M8 prior to that. I've been reading through the forums and spent some time on the M8 forums flashing, testing, and customizing the phone with Roms. I've been reading about the M9 and have noticed some mention that Verizon is firm about a locked bootloader and all. I was curious how on the M8, S-off and unlocking the bootloader was achieved if Verizon is so strict about keeping the phone locked down? Thanks for any responses in advance Looking forward to customizing this beast of a phone. Thank you to all the Devs that make all of this possible!
Cheers,
Ren
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The M8 was like this when it first came out. Yes Verizon is strict. From what I have been told they are trying to find a Temporary Root Exploit to be able to S-Off and all that goodness. We just have to be patient like the First Model M8 people were. Luckily when I first got my M8 it was rootable and stuff. So just be patient, or feel free to donate to jcase and beaups to help buy them energy drinks.

Everything @Balian67 said an also one tip. Don't do any updates till you are s-off as updates could cause exploit not to work if there is a exploit released.

Tigerstown said:
Everything @Balian67 said an also one tip. Don't do any updates till you are s-off as updates could cause exploit not to work if there is a exploit released.
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What i said and what this guy said. Friends don't let friends take updates without it being pre-rooted.

Balian67 said:
What i said and what this guy said. Friends don't let friends take updates without it being pre-rooted.
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Glad I read this thread, didn't even think about updates changing things for getting rooted and eventually S-Off!

chayos00 said:
Glad I read this thread, didn't even think about updates changing things for getting rooted and eventually S-Off!
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As soon as im s-off i flash Aosp style roms and never look back....but tbh...sense isnt bugging me like touchwiz did..not that ill stay on stock sense but it isnt atrocious

Balian67 said:
What i said and what this guy said. Friends don't let friends take updates without it being pre-rooted.
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Balian67 said:
As soon as im s-off i flash Aosp style roms and never look back....but tbh...sense isn't bugging me like touchwiz did..not that ill stay on stock sense but it isn't atrocious
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Yeah, I'm liking the stock setup, but I just like having that option of I wanted!

Balian67 said:
As soon as im s-off i flash Aosp style roms and never look back....but tbh...sense isnt bugging me like touchwiz did..not that ill stay on stock sense but it isnt atrocious
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Totally agree with this!! Oh my lord is there a difference between Touchwiz and Sense. I did go back to Nova Launcher for the actual day-to-day launcher but the framework is...I dare to say...enjoyable to use. This is my first HTC phone, although I've worked on a few for friends, but I'm loving it so far.

xgerryx said:
Totally agree with this!! Oh my lord is there a difference between Touchwiz and Sense. I did go back to Nova Launcher for the actual day-to-day launcher but the framework is...I dare to say...enjoyable to use. This is my first HTC phone, although I've worked on a few for friends, but I'm loving it so far.
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So i bought an M9 for myself and a S6 for my wife. This is first i have used touchwiz, it is not intuitive whatsoever. I am happy with my m9

aer0zer0 said:
So i bought an M9 for myself and a S6 for my wife. This is first i have used touchwiz, it is not intuitive whatsoever. I am happy with my m9
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The way Samsung complicates settings drives me bonkers. It just doesn't need to be that complicated.

I'm in S6 trial week. Lol. So far not impressed. The so called super snappy touchwiz has a laggy keyboard whether stock or google. Also don't get me started on Chrome browser lag. Little things here and there that are non existent on even the m8. Overall its snappy but it still has annoying hicups here and there. Gonna take a miracle for me not to exchange for an m9 next weekend.

I had an M7 but not an M8 and had put AOSP on it because Sense just didn't feel right to me.
I bought an M9 because of the retail employee deal of no-contract for $300 and trading in for the new one every year. Ditched my G3 and haven't looked back. I love Sense 7. Not only is the UI smooth and really easy to use, the whole design language flows so well with the physical design of the phone. I don't think I'll be putting a custom ROM on this but I would love root for an ad blocker. I forgot how many ads there were on phones until I had to use this M9 without root.
Is anyone planning on making a bounty thread?

PizzaSauce said:
I had an M7 but not an M8 and had put AOSP on it because Sense just didn't feel right to me.
I bought an M9 because of the retail employee deal of no-contract for $300 and trading in for the new one every year. Ditched my G3 and haven't looked back. I love Sense 7. Not only is the UI smooth and really easy to use, the whole design language flows so well with the physical design of the phone. I don't think I'll be putting a custom ROM on this but I would love root for an ad blocker. I forgot how many ads there were on phones until I had to use this M9 without root.
Is anyone planning on making a bounty thread?
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No need really. Bounty threads are worthless distractions too.
For example, one of the last ones claimed only netted the receiver 30% of all promised funds.
Sunshine will likely include vzw some time in the near future...you probably didn't use it on your m7 but it's a standalone app and costs $25.

dottat said:
No need really. Bounty threads are worthless distractions too.
For example, one of the last ones claimed only netted the receiver 30% of all promised funds.
Sunshine will likely include vzw some time in the near future...you probably didn't use it on your m7 but it's a standalone app and costs $25.
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Worth every $0.01 (2500 pennies).

dottat said:
No need really. Bounty threads are worthless distractions too.
For example, one of the last ones claimed only netted the receiver 30% of all promised funds.
Sunshine will likely include vzw some time in the near future...you probably didn't use it on your m7 but it's a standalone app and costs $25.
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Well, it worked on the S5, that's for sure. Leading to the most prolific exploit in android history with Towelroot, so I wouldn't say pointless. I'm not sure the exact % that paid their pledges, but I paid mine. The ads in apps and webpages are really starting to bug me honestly, and I miss my battery-saving apps and xposed modules. I jumped to HTC from the S5 specially to restore bootloader access and ultimately CM-based ROM's to my phone experience. I guess leaving Verizon would have been a more thoughtful choice, but oh well. If anyone starts a bounty thread (and yes I know almost everyone thinks its a bad idea), I'm in.
That being said, much respect to the people working on a root method for us currently. You guys make my little phone hacking hobby possible, so thank you.

xgerryx said:
Well, it worked on the S5, that's for sure. Leading to the most prolific exploit in android history with Towelroot, so I wouldn't say pointless. I'm not sure the exact % that paid their pledges, but I paid mine. The ads in apps and webpages are really starting to bug me honestly, and I miss my battery-saving apps and xposed modules. I jumped to HTC from the S5 specially to restore bootloader access and ultimately CM-based ROM's to my phone experience. I guess leaving Verizon would have been a more thoughtful choice, but oh well. If anyone starts a bounty thread (and yes I know almost everyone thinks its a bad idea), I'm in.
That being said, much respect to the people working on a root method for us currently. You guys make my little phone hacking hobby possible, so thank you.
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I don't know exactly how true it was, but when I first got my M8 and found out that I had to pay $25 to get S-OFF, at first I was hesitant...But I kept reading WHY and immediately understood and paid right away. It separates guys like us who pay their pledge from people who DON'T. As I am sure you would EASILY pay the $25 to get S-OFF. I know I would. I almost prefer it this way, because im pretty much sure it comes with tech support for those who need it. If only more americans stood by their word instead of promising things they would never fulfill. I know that this community has always been about contributing and free things to make all of our experiences better. I get that, but all too often, people take the work and claim it to be theirs. I remember a few devs (that I talked to a lot) had this problem with users of the Samsung Moment and HTC Evo 4G. So between all of the devs hard work not being appreciated (especially when they do this stuff for THEIR phone and they release it to us to enjoy and some people are always complaining or demanding features, yet they don't contribute by donating to the dev so they can buy energy drinks to keep their mind going, or beer to help relax them after they finished a massive update that fixed all the bugs and added features and stuff. Then people wonder why they have to pay $25. Well I have been a member of XDA for years, contributed a lot here or on irc chat, and I will gladly pay $25 to get S-OFF, Root, and Custom Recovery. Why? Because since the DAWN of xda, everyones phone has been made far better then what ANY manufacturer gives us. I mean seriously...I would have Android Lollipop on devices that Samsung or whoever has long gone moved on from. Why? Because of XDA, and the devs. I swear if everyone paid $25 these devs would be able to buy all sorts of devices to root for us. I know I have a Samsung Galaxy Tab Pro, and an HTC. So I appreciate it, and you know what? I consider that $25 a donation to have root on devices period. Why? Because without the people who know what they're doing, I wouldn't be able to install xposed, make entire backups of my phone (so if the device fails while on warranty), I can EASILY restore my phone. I had that happen with my old HTC Evo 4G LTE. That phone broke 3 times on me and each replacement bestbuy gave me (2), all I had to do was get S-OFF flash a custom recovery, and do a "Restore" then all my texts were there, apps were there (with data), call logs were there. I can go on. That $25 is security for me. So saying all that, I will sit here as patient as I can be to get S-OFF and when the time comes to hit the pay button, there wont be a second thought. No regrets. No more stress. Any more Andybones roms to flash.
BOOM (pardon all the grammatical errors, yall get my point.............right?)

Balian67 said:
I don't know exactly how true it was, but when I first got my M8 and found out that I had to pay $25 to get S-OFF, at first I was hesitant........................
100% on point, my friend. Well said. :good:
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sdamark said:
Balian67 said:
I don't know exactly how true it was, but when I first got my M8 and found out that I had to pay $25 to get S-OFF, at first I was hesitant........................
100% on point, my friend. Well said. :good:
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I'm just chillin with my $25 in hand (figuratively).
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Is it possible to unlock the bootloader on the verizon m9 yet?

wings516 said:
Is it possible to unlock the bootloader on the verizon m9 yet?
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Doesn't seem like it and at this point it probably never will.
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[Q] Quick question about rooting

Okay, so I had to warranty my old m7, and flashed it all stock and stuff. Now I notice there is no free way to root and unlock my new phone? I had done all this back when rumrunner was still a thing with my old phone, but I notice there isn't a free way to do it anymore? Is this really the case, or did I just look at the wrong tutorials?
I don't have a lot of disposable income (otherwise I wouldn't still have an m7) and can't really justify spending 25$ for something that never cost money before. However, I also rely on my phone to provide all my internet (rural area doesn't have cable, but I get an okay 4g signal).

Sorry sunshine is the only way and it costs $25. You never know you might get it back with old enough firmware that you can still use a free version.

disconnecktie said:
Sorry sunshine is the only way and it costs $25. You never know you might get it back with old enough firmware that you can still use a free version.
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5.28.605.2

squat251 said:
5.28.605.2
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That sucks... Yeah, then sunshinrs your only way... It really is worth it, in the long run

bdizzle1686 said:
That sucks... Yeah, then sunshinrs your only way... It really is worth it, in the long run
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Well, I bit the bullet and bought it (since I have no choice) but now my phone isn't showing as rooted? I also can't seem to connect through adb. Before when I polled for devices the phone showed, but appeared as offline, now it won't show at all. Unsure how to proccede, I usually used the twrp app to install recovery, but that's not working (errors out saying I'm not rooted).

Are you at least unlocked and s off now?

disconnecktie said:
Are you at least unlocked and s off now?
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Yeah, figured it out. all good now.

squat251 said:
Yeah, figured it out. all good now.
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Good deal. Glad you bit that bullet.

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Good deal. Glad you bit that bullet.
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Gotta have internet. Unlimited data doesn't do me a lick of good if it's locked behind yet another monthly fee. I just hope I can save up for a samsung device for when this phone bites it, so I don't have to pay another 25$.

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Gotta have internet. Unlimited data doesn't do me a lick of good if it's locked behind yet another monthly fee. I just hope I can save up for a samsung device for when this phone bites it, so I don't have to pay another 25$.
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Make sure you check that said Samsung device can be rooted to allow that function.

yeah, I was thinking about an s5 or a note 3, both of which (as far as I'm aware) have been thoroughly worked over.

[INFO] How I got ROOT and S-OFF on my Verizon M9!!!

First of all, a BIG thanks to @dottat for his willingness to provide this for us!! :good: Secondly, the more of us with a rooted/unlocked M9 - the more development we'll see for the Verizon M9! And finally, here are the details to how I achieved root access, S-OFF and a custom recovery on my M9
What you need:
•Verizon M9
•Patience (don't hurt your mailman)
•Appreciation (via donation)
•Mailing address
•Paypal
Basic steps
1. PM @dottat - request an unlock for your VZW M9
2. Pack up your M9 and send it to him (he'll do the hard part)
3. Send your DONATION - I gave him $25 plus the amount it will cost him to ship it back.
*Per xda rules, there is to be NO selling on the site. So, this is why you see the term "donation" in this thread.
I am VERY satisfied with how smoothly everything went and HIGHLY RECOMMEND using this same method! Just ask everyone else who has done this as well. He sends your phone back to you the SAME DAY he gets it. You'll have your M9 rooted, with TWRP installed, unlocked bootloader - S-Off. The java card he is using to do this is NOT CHEAP, so don't hesitate to send more $ if you can spare it. I love this method because its a win/win for us all. We get S-Off and he gets most of his money back
Anyways, it could be a while til a root exploit comes to the Verizon M9. That's why I'm recommending you do this too!

This is an offer I'm seriously considering! Thank you for the recommendation.

I also can attest to @dottat being an awesome human being and sending me back my phone immediately in perfect rooted unlocked twrping condition. Donated him $20 plus shipping both ways. It was such a easy process (I have my old s4 to use while it was shipping so not a big deal) so definitely recommend doing this. Currently on viperonem9 rom with elemental x kernel rooted and xposed and colour control set up so the screen looks way better. Wouldn't have been possible without his awesomeness. Thanks again @dottat

Yup @dottat a awesome guy .did mine in 30min..donated him $60...plus the cost of shipping over night both ways..he was even going to use his own money from donation to cover a mistake FedEx did..but I refused...FYI last time I'm using FedEx..they messed up twice

Any option for those of us who do not live in the US anymore?
I got my Verizon M9 hanging around here but I'm hating the bloatware apps, verizon's bootlogo and the HTC Sense. I would be a happy HTC customer otherwise..
Any news from HTCDeveloper? I'm kinda losing my temper here..

DarkovLight said:
Any option for those of us who do not live in the US anymore?
I got my Verizon M9 hanging around here but I'm hating the bloatware apps, verizon's bootlogo and the HTC Sense. I would be a happy HTC customer otherwise..
Any news from HTCDeveloper? I'm kinda losing my temper here..
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I ran across this today. Most likely won't work, but worth a shot I guess. It says for for certain m9 variants but doesn't specify Verizon. I would try for you, but I had dottat s-off my Verizon m9.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/general/root-pingpongroot-s6-root-tool-t3103016

jsaxon2 said:
I ran across this today. Most likely won't work, but worth a shot I guess. It says for for certain m9 variants but doesn't specify Verizon. I would try for you, but I had dottat s-off my Verizon m9.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/general/root-pingpongroot-s6-root-tool-t3103016
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It would work in theory but it requires unlocked bootloader, which is not an option right now thanks to the lack of HTC DEV support.

I have been waiting since day one of release to s-off/unlock or at least root my m9. I bought this phone the day it was released, not even considering the chance that there would be this much trouble to achieve. I had the HTC Rezound (verizon) and the m7(sprint) and now the m9 (verizon).
If there is a way for someone to perform this task, can we not get a guide to do such and share it with the world?!

EnduringGuerila said:
I have been waiting since day one of release to s-off/unlock or at least root my m9. I bought this phone the day it was released, not even considering the chance that there would be this much trouble to achieve. I had the HTC Rezound (verizon) and the m7(sprint) and now the m9 (verizon).
If there is a way for someone to perform this task, can we not get a guide to do such and share it with the world?!
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Its not a secret, look around. You need a java card. (Which are EXPENSIVE.)
Which is exactly why there are multiple users willing to do it for you. (For a small donation)

^^^^This....do what the TS says....all will be good..and take care of the Devs and people offering this service up.

Dude DOTTAT is amazing. He will respond to any and all messages within seconds!! He let me know the phone was there 5 minutes after he recieved it and 30 minutes later hes on the way to the post office to drop my phone off! You cant beat that service!

I don't normally post much here, but I want to add that I also had dottat handle my s-off and root. The same day he received the phone he had it back in the mail on its way back to me. Very happy with the service and was glad to give him a donation of $25+.
If you are worried about losing your new phone, relax. I bought the phone and didn't get to use it (chose not to use it because it wasn't rooted yet). I eventually broke down and sent it to him (yep, I was hesitant too). But I have no fear.
If I buy an M10 next year and he can s-off the phone, I'll send it to him without any concern at all.

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Dude DOTTAT is amazing. He will respond to any and all messages within seconds!! He let me know the phone was there 5 minutes after he recieved it and 30 minutes later hes on the way to the post office to drop my phone off! You cant beat that service!
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I don't normally post much here, but I want to add that I also had dottat handle my s-off and root. The same day he received the phone he had it back in the mail on its way back to me. Very happy with the service and was glad to give him a donation of $25+.
If you are worried about losing your new phone, relax. I bought the phone and didn't get to use it (chose not to use it because it wasn't rooted yet). I eventually broke down and sent it to him (yep, I was hesitant too). But I have no fear.
If I buy an M10 next year and he can s-off the phone, I'll send it to him without any concern at all.
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Well said guys, I also was the same, had the M9 for a few weeks, maybe longer, but didn't even turn it on, was on M8, didn't want to ship device, but with Doug (dottat) there is really no worry, throw some insurance on the shipping, pack it correctly and sit back and let him do his magic. You can't beat working with Doug. Always responds to you, doesn't leave you hanging, will have the device in hand before you even realize it's landed to him, and will have the device back on its way to you very quickly. (for me, he had a tracking # for the phone back to me before I even saw that it had arrived!)
Thanks again, Doug! @dottat

andybones said:
Well said guys, I also was the same, had the M9 for a few weeks, maybe longer, but didn't even turn it on, was on M8, didn't want to ship device, but with Doug (dottat) there is really no worry, throw some insurance on the shipping, pack it correctly and sit back and let him do his magic. You can't beat working with Doug. Always responds to you, doesn't leave you hanging, will have the device in hand before you even realize it's landed to him, and will have the device back on its way to you very quickly. (for me, he had a tracking # for the phone back to me before I even saw that it had arrived!)
Thanks again, Doug! @dottat
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So it's a safe bet to say your experience shipping this time was better than last? (M7)

Good to know, thanks
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calebcabob said:
First of all, a BIG thanks to @dottat for his willingness to provide this for us!! :good: Secondly, the more of us with a rooted/unlocked M9 - the more development we'll see for the Verizon M9! And finally, here are the details to how I achieved root access, S-OFF and a custom recovery on my M9
What you need:
•Verizon M9
•Patience (don't hurt your mailman)
•Appreciation (via donation)
•Mailing address
•Paypal
Basic steps
1. PM @dottat - request an unlock for your VZW M9
2. Pack up your M9 and send it to him (he'll do the hard part)
3. Send your DONATION - I gave him $25 plus the amount it will cost him to ship it back.
*Per xda rules, there is to be NO selling on the site. So, this is why you see the term "donation" in this thread.
I am VERY satisfied with how smoothly everything went and HIGHLY RECOMMEND using this same method! Just ask everyone else who has done this as well. He sends your phone back to you the SAME DAY he gets it. You'll have your M9 rooted, with TWRP installed, unlocked bootloader - S-Off. The java card he is using to do this is NOT CHEAP, so don't hesitate to send more $ if you can spare it. I love this method because its a win/win for us all. We get S-Off and he gets most of his money back
Anyways, it could be a while til a root exploit comes to the Verizon M9. That's why I'm recommending you do this too!
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whats the point of this thread??? advertise the services he is providing? i have a java card and a clip 2 and i created a thread to help folks locally in nyc and he deleted it. but won't delete this crap that is been beneficial to him. why? wait....... he is a mod.....shhhhhhh.........................everyone quiet lol

heroes96 said:
whats the point of this thread??? advertise the services he is providing? i have a java card and a clip 2 and i created a thread to help folks locally in nyc and he deleted it. but won't delete this crap that is been beneficial to him. why? wait....... he is a mod.....shhhhhhh.........................everyone quiet lol
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Now that you have shown your true colors... I ask that you take a look at when this thread was created. Back then it wasn't an environment where hardly anyone had a java card or clip. Your thread was posted by you and was a direct advertisement that was in duplication to the currently supported java card thread.
I really don't understand what is so hard to understand about this notion. As I mentioned to you in PM, you are new here with no credibility for folks to send their $600 device to. You NEED to be vetted. Not turning your fire on me or any other member of this community.
If you choose to continue to make waves, we will shut that thread and folks can be left to find their own ways to get s-off.
I have done more favors for this community both as a recognized contributor and a moderator. I have saved countless phones and done many s-off's for nothing. I have even used my own donations to pay to ship phones for which I didn't even take anything to s-off.
Unless you can say the same, we are done here.
-dottat

heroes96 said:
whats the point of this thread??? advertise the services he is providing? i have a java card and a clip 2 and i created a thread to help folks locally in nyc and he deleted it. but won't delete this crap that is been beneficial to him. why? wait....... he is a mod.....shhhhhhh.........................everyone quiet lol
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Just to add emphasis to the above, dottat has also spent countless hours via remote desktop assisting members (for free as always) with any and all related phone issues. Most everyone here can attest to his contributions to XDA and his efforts to go above and beyond so who are you to judge or make such claim? I suggest you check your facts before you spout off senseless garbage and become another waste of time for everyone else here. So far all you've managed to contribute to anyone here is trolling.
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[Q] Hold Off on System Updates with Verizon Model in Hope of Root?

I will be receiving my Verizon HTC 10 today and would like to know if I should hold off on System Updates in hopes of Root being released, or if I should go ahead and do the System Updates as they become available? Any input would be appreciated!

I'd hold off till temproot. Sunshine already works, so once we have temproot unlocking will be easy.

Thats a question for @jcase

Im wondering this too. I get mine this afternoon. My M7 is still working like a champ so I have no problems keeping it un-activated in the box if its advisable at this point......

polaric said:
I'd hold off till temproot. Sunshine already works, so once we have temproot unlocking will be easy.
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We have zero evidence of SunShine working on Verizon HTC 10 at this point.
lucky_strike33 said:
Thats a question for @jcase
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Yeah tahts gunna have to be a personal call

jcase said:
We have zero evidence of SunShine working on Verizon HTC 10 at this point.
Yeah tahts gunna have to be a personal call
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I was under the impression that there were articles run saying sunshine was already working on the 10?

polaric said:
I was under the impression that there were articles run saying sunshine was already working on the 10?
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What I've read and Jcase has said, is it isn't working for the Verizion model as of yet.

polaric said:
I was under the impression that there were articles run saying sunshine was already working on the 10?
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All but Verizon, and possibly KDDI/DoCoMo in japan but unsure on the last two.