New Owner, Question on skipsoft toolkit - Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A

I'm quite familiar with the Skipsoft Toolkits. I've used them plenty of times in the past.
Bought a Nexus 7 2013 today. First thing it wanted to do was update from 4.3 to 4.4.2. I did that. Then 4.4.3. Did that.
I now wanted to use the tooklit to unlock and flash a custom recovery so I can try out CleanRom.
There is no 4.4.3 option in the toolkit.
Question
Can I select the 4.4.2 Build and then unlock the bootloader and flash a custom recovery? This is all I need correct? I typically always used the All in one option in previous devices but since 4.4.3 isn't an option I can't.
While were at it, the other things the "All in one" flash does, such as Busybox, Rename Recovery Restore Files and Root. Do I need to do any of these? What is busybox? Why would I need to rename recovery restore files? Is unlocking bootloader and flashing custom recovery all I need to do to start flashing Roms?
Just making sure as I've always gone the "All in one" Route.
And Yes, I know I can do via ADB but Its been a long time since I've done it and would rather take the familiar route.

bigystyle84 said:
I'm quite familiar with the Skipsoft Toolkits. I've used them plenty of times in the past.
Bought a Nexus 7 2013 today. First thing it wanted to do was update from 4.3 to 4.4.2. I did that. Then 4.4.3. Did that.
I now wanted to use the tooklit to unlock and flash a custom recovery so I can try out CleanRom.
There is no 4.4.3 option in the toolkit.
Question
Can I select the 4.4.2 Build and then unlock the bootloader and flash a custom recovery? This is all I need correct? I typically always used the All in one option in previous devices but since 4.4.3 isn't an option I can't.
While were at it, the other things the "All in one" flash does, such as Busybox, Rename Recovery Restore Files and Root. Do I need to do any of these? What is busybox? Why would I need to rename recovery restore files? Is unlocking bootloader and flashing custom recovery all I need to do to start flashing Roms?
Just making sure as I've always gone the "All in one" Route.
And Yes, I know I can do via ADB but Its been a long time since I've done it and would rather take the familiar route.
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Don't use toolkits.
I advise learning how to do this operation manually. It's very simple. Read this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/goo...ide-nexus-5-how-to-unlock-bootloader-t2507905
I know it's a long read. But seriously, you can unlock the bootloader, fastboot flash an update, flash a recovery, and have root in about 3 minutes.
I would say a normal user does not need busybox. And most apps that require it come with their own version.

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[Q] Nexus Factory image, can I flash it like a ROM?

So the Verizon 4.0.4 Factory Image was just published by Google, so I downloaded it to my phone for safe keeping. I'm just curious, if I install a custom ROM and I want to go back to stock ICS can I just flash this file like a ROM? Also will I loose root if I do that?
This is what I'm talking about.
Yes you loose root and custom recovery.
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actually, no... you have to flash it using fastboot commands, flashing image by image:
fastboot flash bootloader bootloaderxxxxx.img
fastboot flash system systemxxxx.img
fastboot flash recovery recoveryxxx.img
etc, etc, etc...
your phone will be exactly like never touched, that means of course, stock with no root or custom recovery.
barbac666 said:
Yes you loose root and custom recovery.
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thiagodark said:
actually, no... you have to flash it using fastboot commands, flashing image by image:
fastboot flash bootloader bootloaderxxxxx.img
fastboot flash system systemxxxx.img
fastboot flash recovery recoveryxxx.img
etc, etc, etc...
your phone will be exactly like never touched, that means of course, stock with no root or custom recovery.
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Thank you, so when I rooted my phone it created a recovery image, and that's what I would want to use to go back to "stock + keeping root"
Right?
Yes make a nandroid backup in CWM , and if you want to go back restore this.
In CWM go to backup and restore.
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Big Cam said:
Thank you, so when I rooted my phone it created a recovery image, and that's what I would want to use to go back to "stock + keeping root"
Right?
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don't understand exactly what you mean... the thing is:
"root" means that you have access to root files/partitions, that is it, but the usual way to get root is: unlock bootloader, flash custom recovery using fastboot, flash root file.
now you have a "stock" phone with root access and custom recovery (usually custom recovery is replaced by stock one in the first reboot) and you end with a stock phone + root! that is exactly what you want!
as barbac666 said, you should make a nandroid backup as soon as you flash your custom recovery, even before root it!
why don't you use the tool kit available in dev section?
It's alot easier if you use the Nexus tool kit v7, It makes it alot easier by placing the image file in the specific folder and just tapping a key. Then again it's best to keep a placed copy elsewhere as the image tends to get wiped/deleted after flashing (to avoid conflict with other image files).
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don't understand exactly what you mean... the thing is:
"root" means that you have access to root files/partitions, that is it, but the usual way to get root is: unlock bootloader, flash custom recovery using fastboot, flash root file.
now you have a "stock" phone with root access and custom recovery (usually custom recovery is replaced by stock one in the first reboot) and you end with a stock phone + root! that is exactly what you want!
as barbac666 said, you should make a nandroid backup as soon as you flash your custom recovery, even before root it!
why don't you use the tool kit available in dev section?
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I think I got it. I think I slightly misunderstood the true meaning of root.
All I've done so far is unlock the bootloader and flashed the recovery that was instructed in this thread. So the recovery image I flashed there, replaced my "stock" one, but after doing a reboot, the stock recovery replaced my custom one? So I'm now stock with an unlocked bootloader and root?
As for the toolkit, I'm going to look into it, I was just looking to root, and followed the guide I found.
thiagodark said:
don't understand exactly what you mean... the thing is:
"root" means that you have access to root files/partitions, that is it, but the usual way to get root is: unlock bootloader, flash custom recovery using fastboot, flash root file.
now you have a "stock" phone with root access and custom recovery (usually custom recovery is replaced by stock one in the first reboot) and you end with a stock phone + root! that is exactly what you want!
as barbac666 said, you should make a nandroid backup as soon as you flash your custom recovery, even before root it!
why don't you use the tool kit available in dev section?
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You dont need to flash cwm to get it running. If its only needed to flash su/superuser.apk, you may 'fastboot boot cwm.img', it will take you to cwm.
Misledz said:
It's alot easier if you use the Nexus tool kit v7, It makes it alot easier by placing the image file in the specific folder and just tapping a key. Then again it's best to keep a placed copy elsewhere as the image tends to get wiped/deleted after flashing (to avoid conflict with other image files).
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Why doesnt he use the toolkit? Because it's better for them if people learn how to do this manually. Scripts are helpful, but dont teach you anything.
Sent from my i9250
bk201doesntexist said:
Why doesnt he use the toolkit? Because it's better for them if people learn how to do this manually. Scripts are helpful, but dont teach you anything.
Sent from my i9250
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That's exactly why I wanted to do it like that.
On my LG Revolution there was pretty much only one root method and it was a one click, so I've never rooted manually. I'm happy I did.
I have Rom ToolBox Pro that I bought when I had my Revolution so I have access to boot to recovery and manage ROM's. I was just curious about the Google image file.
So at this point, is there really a reason for the Toolbox? Since I'm rooted already, I can do backups from CWM Recovery as well as flashing ROM's and Kernals. I've only ever done this from CWM on the phone so I'm used to doing it on the phone. I read most of the thread and it seams most helpful in the rooting/unlocking process.

unlocking 4.1.1 OTA update?

Hello all,
Just did an OTA update to JRO03O after unrooting and relocking my phone. Then went to Root Toolkit 1.5.3 to root and unlock the new ROM but the only option there was JRO03H to select for my Verizon phone. Can I select this "H" version (or the last choice, which is MYSID-TORO;Android*.*) to root and unlock it? Or must I wait for my specific build to appear?
Do you use fastboot? I avoid toolkits like the plague because you learn nothing from them. Try using fastboot to flash a custom recovery(CWM or TWRP), then just flash the latest superuser zip from clockworkmod.
Edit: don't quote me though, the only time I've ever been stock is the first 30 minutes owning my Gnex. I just bypass the rooting process by flashing a custom ROM.
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shag_on_e said:
Do you use fastboot? I avoid toolkits like the plague because you learn nothing from them. Try using fastboot to flash a custom recovery(CWM or TWRP), then just flash the latest superuser zip from clockworkmod.
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hmm never really used anything but toolkits, could you point me to a tutorial on how to do the fastboot / superuser? I thought that you'd need to be rooted before you could install a custom recovery / superuser on your phone. I also thought that on any phone that you have to unlock the bootloader before doing anything with recovery as well. could you or someone enlighten me?
thanks!
Shukero
Here ya go, this is the tutorial I used in the beginning, still gold to this day. And you don't have to be rooted to flash a recovery from the bootloader, boot straight to recovery, then flash a custom ROM. No root needed. The bootloader does need to be unlocked first though but there's nothing to it. Just follow this guide.
http://wiki.rootzwiki.com/Samsung_Galaxy_Nexus_(toro)#IMM76K
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A little off topic, but is JRO03O the OTA version? I haven't taken it yet, but the most recent AOSP branch is for JRO03R, which comes after O
yes the ota is jro03o
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javroch said:
A little off topic, but is JRO03O the OTA version? I haven't taken it yet, but the most recent AOSP branch is for JRO03R, which comes after O
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for gsm, yes, it's JRO03R
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Basic root-nothing else- and a few questions

Hi,
So there seem to be quite a few tools and methods out there with which you can root your phone, but what if I really only want to root it and nothing else; my only goal is to use apps that require root access.
I've got Android 4.1.1, but I suppose it shouldn't matter that much. Will I be able to update to a newer version with root access though?
Forgot to add:
What will I need to back up and how do I transfer my settings and contacts? I don't care much for lost apps since I don't have many.
Unlock the bootloader and flash a custom recovery. After that you make a nandroid backup and then install the superuser root script to give root acces in the rom.
Flash back the stock recovery and you are able to receive and install official ota's.
Is this all possible with this tool?
Now I don't want to act dumb or seem inept, but could you or someone else give me a more detailed description, maybe with a link or two?
Yes you can use that tool :thumbup:
Did you see my edit to the first post?
>>What will I need to back up and how do I transfer my settings and contacts? I don't care much for lost apps since I don't have many.
Can you tell me why I need to flash a custom recovery? Can't I 'just' root my phone as is and then leave it like that- rooted of course?
You can use an app called carbon to make a backup. You need a custom recovery to install the super user script. A stock one is not capable if doing that. And you don't root a phone. Only its software !
With hassoons tool, how do I flash the stock ROM back on it? I can see no option in his thread...
The stock nandroid backup needs to be installed via the custom recovery. Not with hassons tool kit. You can in that case only flash back the stock boot.img from the stock backup.
Hi, I decided I wanted to go through with my plans to root the phone and already run into a problem:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=43066305&posted=1#post43066305
Most recentpost...
EDIT: Selected Power down on the phone because I was getting impatient and paranoid and then disconnected the phone. Everything seems fine so far. I closed the console and the message "Get Token ID.." popped up and then the console reopened, apparently searching for the phone... -_-
Oh well, maybe next time. Right now I want to take a break/try something else.
Can someone tell me why Windows always trys to install new drivers even when they already are installed? Happened when I used the programm- updating drivers blabla...
I'll try again here...
Just a question:
Can I definitely receive official android/sense/hwatever ota updates but still keep the root access?
What i've gathered so far is that I need to use hassoons tool and how to guide,but only the first post.
After that I will have a rooted stock ROM with ClockworkMod recovery, right?
Then I should do a nandroid backup WITH CWM (how is this done exactly? hold volume down +power button, then recovery?)
What will be backed up with the nandroid backup? How big will this be roughly and can I/should I put it on PC to free up some space?
Regardless from this backup, I only need the recovery.img, which in my case will be MY personal backed up STOCK recovery.img,is that correct?
How do I flash my stock recovery?
Edit:
Once I have the stock recovery again, will my phone still have root access? Is everything from then on -stock- except for root access?

[Q] How to proceed to S-Off,boot loader unlock,sim unlock from stock?

Hello friends, I just got a new refurbished rogers(canada) HTC M8 GSM phone.Its totally stock at this moment and would like to do sim unlock,s-off and boot loader unlock. But before i would like to get full back up of my stock.Few questions:
1.How can i do full complete backup of my stock phone in case in future i need to revert back?
2. what are the steps to do s-off,sim unlock and bootloader unlock?
Right now phone says:
Android version 4.4.3
HTC sence version 6.0
software number 2.23.631.2
HTC SDK API level 6.25
kernel version
3.4.0--g523xxxxxx
baseband version
1.19.2133xxxxxxxx
build number
2.23.631.xxxxxxxrelease-keys
Thanks in advance...
Go to HTCDev.com to unlock the bootloader. The process is self-explanatory (just follow the website instructions). There is a writeup on the following guide, if you need help. But honestly, if you can follow instruction, the process is self-explanatory as I mentioned: http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/general/vomerguides-m8-bootldr-unlock-s-off-t2800727
Then, to backup the stock ROM and recovery, follow the instructions listed on the following thread under "How do i backup the stock HTC recovery?" : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2701376
This process will boot custom recovery without actually flashing recovery it to the phone, allowing you to backup stock recovery as well as the stock ROM (if you flash custom recovery before doing this, stock recovery is over-written and therefore can't be backed up). Note that your version's stock ROM and recovery may already be uploaded to the above thread by another XDA user.
Then achieve root by your preferred method (flash custom recovery and flash SU/SuperSU, or use weaksauce, towelroot, etc.). Then use sunshine to achieve s-off (firewater s-off will likely not work, as it was patched some time ago): http://theroot.ninja/
Then after s-off, you can unlock SIM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2708572
Thanks a lot redpont73 for your directions!!!Will follow your steps and let you know how things went..Thanks
Ok i unlocked my bootloader with htcdev.com and it says unlocked now.
Now how to backup my stock at this point? I tried this thread you showed me: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2701376 but didn't understand fully. but it says :fastboot boot recovery_filename.img (this does not work on the latest 3.xx firmwares !!! we need to get the stock recoveries from the OTA files)"
I am little confused at this point.How can i back up at this point without installing any recovery software like twrp?please guide me.thanks
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Now how to backup my stock at this point? I tried this thread you showed me: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2701376 but didn't understand fully. but it says :fastboot boot recovery_filename.img (this does not work on the latest 3.xx firmwares !!! we need to get the stock recoveries from the OTA files)"
I am little confused at this point.How can i back up at this point without installing any recovery software like twrp?
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By placing the custom recovery image in your fastboot folder, you can then boot recovery without actually flashing it to the phone, using the command you quoted. Think of it as remotely running the TWRP software that is still located on your PC (at least I think that is how it works).
Once you are booted into TWRP, you can backup system (stock ROM) and recovery(stock recovery).
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By placing the custom recovery image in your fastboot folder, you can then boot recovery without actually flashing it to the phone, using the command you quoted. Think of it as remotely running the TWRP software that is still located on your PC (at least I think that is how it works).
Once you are booted into TWRP, you can backup system (stock ROM) and recovery(stock recovery).
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Could you please help me to find the custom recovery image that i can put in my fast boot folder and please step by step if you don't mind please.Just trying to learn and don't want to brick my phone with any wrong move.thanks
i found this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=53770286&postcount=4
Will that help?thanks
ninja_zx11 said:
i found this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=53770286&postcount=4
Will that help?thanks
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Yes, that is another method.
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ninja_zx11 said:
Could you please help me to find the custom recovery image that i can put in my fast boot folder and please step by step if you don't mind please.
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Go to the General forum section for the M8, and look at the Index thread (sticky at the top of that forum) to find link to recoveries and other resources, including guides and how-tos. Read up and learn.
Taking the time to familiarize yourself with the basic concepts and processes is much more valuable than someone walking your though step-by-step. I won't walk you through step-by-step, as you will learn very little that way.
The process is not that difficult, anyway. You already used fastboot to unlock the bootloader. Other fastboot commands are not any different in execution. If you can't handle taking it from here, modding the phone probably isn't for you.
With S-on, you aren't going to brick the phone by backing up or flashing recovery. Even with s-off, as long as you only flash things intended for the M8 (and only for the GSM version - not CDMA - to be safe), you will not brick. You can only brick the phone if you damage hboot, radio, or partition tables.
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Yes, that is another method.
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Go to the General forum section for the M8, and look at the Index thread (sticky at the top of that forum) to find link to recoveries and other resources, including guides and how-tos. Read up and learn.
Taking the time to familiarize yourself with the basic concepts and processes is much more valuable than someone walking your though step-by-step. I won't walk you through step-by-step, as you will learn very little that way.
The process is not that difficult, anyway. You already used fastboot to unlock the bootloader. Other fastboot commands are not any different in execution. If you can't handle taking it from here, modding the phone probably isn't for you.
With S-on, you aren't going to brick the phone by backing up or flashing recovery. Even with s-off, as long as you only flash things intended for the M8 (and only for the GSM version - not CDMA - to be safe), you will not brick. You can only brick the phone if you damage hboot, radio, or partition tables.
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Yes you are right...I will read more and i want to learn and will try to do it myself.If i will have some confusion, i will ask here.Looks like i need more reading.
Now what i am planning to do is:
1. Install twrp
2.Take a full nandroid backup.(will it be enough to save me in future if i would like to go back to stock after S-OFF?)
3.root and s-off.
Does it make sense?
ninja_zx11 said:
Now what i am planning to do is:
1. Install twrp
2.Take a full nandroid backup.(will it be enough to save me in future if i would like to go back to stock after S-OFF?)
3.root and s-off.
Does it make sense?
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The process to backup stock recovery is easy, by either method we already discussed. If you want to be thorough, backup stock recovery.
Backing up stock recovery and stock ROM is sufficient to return (mostly) to stock. There isn't much else you can do
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The process to backup stock recovery is easy, by either method we already discussed. If you want to be thorough, backup stock recovery.
Backing up stock recovery and stock ROM is sufficient to return (mostly) to stock. There isn't much else you can do
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UPDATE:
I downloaded latest twrp and i booted into twrp .then took full backup. i also took back up using philz touch same way by just booting into philztouch.
Then i tried to root using supersu by same booting into twrp and tried to root.it created a supersu icon on the spring board and then i tried to install it from play store but it errored out and phone rebooted.After that i tried to remove the supersu icon from the phone but just couldnt. Then i thought of restoring stock backup using twrp and it restored it to stock stage.Atleast now i know that my stock backup worked.!!!
Now my question is why did supersu not root my phone?Should i try another method?please advice.thanks
ninja_zx11 said:
UPDATE:
I downloaded latest twrp and i booted into twrp .then took full backup. i also took back up using philz touch same way by just booting into philztouch.
Then i tried to root using supersu by same booting into twrp and tried to root.it created a supersu icon on the spring board and then i tried to install it from play store but it errored out and phone rebooted.After that i tried to remove the supersu icon from the phone but just couldnt. Then i thought of restoring stock backup using twrp and it restored it to stock stage.Atleast now i know that my stock backup worked.!!!
Now my question is why did supersu not root my phone?Should i try another method?please advice.thanks
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huh? Did you flash it and then tried to install it from the play store after it was already "installed" by being flashed in custom recovery? If not, what exactly are you talking about here?
I've never bothered with the play store, just boot the custom recovery and flash the latest SuperSU. That's it... :silly:
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huh? Did you flash it and then tried to install it from the play store after it was already "installed" by being flashed in custom recovery? If not, what exactly are you talking about here?
I've never bothered with the play store, just boot the custom recovery and flash the latest SuperSU. That's it... :silly:
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thanks BerndM14, i just copied supersu zip to internal storage as you said and installed it by booting into twrp from pc. and its done... thanks..
ninja_zx11 said:
UPDATE:
I downloaded latest twrp and i booted into twrp .then took full backup. i also took back up using philz touch same way by just booting into philztouch.
Then i tried to root using supersu by same booting into twrp and tried to root.it created a supersu icon on the spring board and then i tried to install it from play store but it errored out and phone rebooted.After that i tried to remove the supersu icon from the phone but just couldnt. Then i thought of restoring stock backup using twrp and it restored it to stock stage.Atleast now i know that my stock backup worked.!!!
Now my question is why did supersu not root my phone?Should i try another method?please advice.thanks
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Sounds like a brick in the making.
Make sure that you read and understand what you are about to do before you do it.
A nandroid won't always help you.
If I may make a suggestion, don't go S-Off.
I am abandoning the idea of doing S-off after the suggestion from xunholyx above and after reading this http://android-revolution-hd.blogspot.ca/2013/06/do-we-really-need-s-off.html.
ninja_zx11 said:
I am abandoning the idea of doing S-off after the suggestion from xunholyx above and after reading this http://android-revolution-hd.blogspot.ca/2013/06/do-we-really-need-s-off.html.
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I see you are learning. I will never understand why folks seek to get s-off, without even understanding what it means. You should not be attempting any mods, unless you fully understand what the purpose is (such as s-off).
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I see you are learning. I will never understand why folks seek to get s-off, without even understanding what it means. You should not be attempting any mods, unless you fully understand what the purpose is (such as s-off).
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thanks redpoint73 for giving me helping hand!! without your help i wouldn't have done it.....

Best way to root,unlock BL and install custom recovery

I have Xperia z1 compact running stock non-rooted 14.6.A.1.236 rom. My bootloader is locked. I want to be able to install custom roms. What's the best way to root, unlock bl and install custom recovery? I've been searching forum for past few days but most of the download links redirect to d-h.st. and that breaks the chain of needed files.
Also i never used flashtool and i don't know should i use Sony flashtool or "original" one
bolcna said:
I have Xperia z1 compact running stock non-rooted 14.6.A.1.236 rom. My bootloader is locked. I want to be able to install custom roms. What's the best way to root, unlock bl and install custom recovery? I've been searching forum for past few days but most of the download links redirect to d-h.st. and that breaks the chain of needed files.
Also i never used flashtool and i don't know should i use Sony flashtool or "original" one
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72547776&postcount=6
levone1 said:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72547776&postcount=6
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Do i have to be rooted to backup TA partition
bolcna said:
Do i have to be rooted to backup TA partition
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I don't think so. Just need adb...
I guess I don't have to open a new thread for this: I've been reading a lot about this recently and trying to get my thoughts straight about this:
I found PhilZ Dual Recovery (https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2647480) which works with locked bootloader. Some people wrote there they installed the recovery on 5.0.2, so it seems I have to downgrade first (I'm on 5.1.1), even though it doesn't say that in the manual..? - if you can't answer that I'll ask that later then in the linked thread.
Next thing: I rooted with Kingroot, but want to switch to SuperSU - cant switch because theres a problem with the binary, so I have to flash it anyway through custom recovery.
Can I now root with Kingroot, install PhilZ Dualrecovery and when it boots into Recovery Mode, can I just flash the SuperSu.zip?
OR would I need to boot normally first after custom recovery install, then uninstall Kingroot, to unroot, and THEN flash SuperSU in Recovery?
Ive been using root for years but never really got into flashing before so I'm quite new to that and appreciate your help. Thanks a bunch.
Raiyr said:
I guess I don't have to open a new thread for this: I've been reading a lot about this recently and trying to get my thoughts straight about this:
I found PhilZ Dual Recovery (https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2647480) which works with locked bootloader. Some people wrote there they installed the recovery on 5.0.2, so it seems I have to downgrade first (I'm on 5.1.1), even though it doesn't say that in the manual..? - if you can't answer that I'll ask that later then in the linked thread.
Next thing: I rooted with Kingroot, but want to switch to SuperSU - cant switch because theres a problem with the binary, so I have to flash it anyway through custom recovery.
Can I now root with Kingroot, install PhilZ Dualrecovery and when it boots into Recovery Mode, can I just flash the SuperSu.zip?
OR would I need to boot normally first after custom recovery install, then uninstall Kingroot, to unroot, and THEN flash SuperSU in Recovery?
Ive been using root for years but never really got into flashing before so I'm quite new to that and appreciate your help. Thanks a bunch.
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You don't have to downgrade to flash NUT. It's been a while since I did it, but I'm pretty sure that flashing supersu won't totally remove Kingroot. Best thing to do once you're rooted, if you don't want to unlock bl, is probably to install recovery, then in recovery flash a prf, which will wipe your system and install new system with supersu instead of Kingroot.
Raiyr said:
I guess I don't have to open a new thread for this: I've been reading a lot about this recently and trying to get my thoughts straight about this:
I found PhilZ Dual Recovery (https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2647480) which works with locked bootloader. Some people wrote there they installed the recovery on 5.0.2, so it seems I have to downgrade first (I'm on 5.1.1), even though it doesn't say that in the manual..? - if you can't answer that I'll ask that later then in the linked thread.
Next thing: I rooted with Kingroot, but want to switch to SuperSU - cant switch because theres a problem with the binary, so I have to flash it anyway through custom recovery.
Can I now root with Kingroot, install PhilZ Dualrecovery and when it boots into Recovery Mode, can I just flash the SuperSu.zip?
OR would I need to boot normally first after custom recovery install, then uninstall Kingroot, to unroot, and THEN flash SuperSU in Recovery?
Ive been using root for years but never really got into flashing before so I'm quite new to that and appreciate your help. Thanks a bunch.
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I don't trust any universal rooting apps. Only way to legit root your phone is to downgrade to kitkat and then root using exploit, then flash prerooted lollipop (that is if you wan't to stay on stock rooted rom). If you don't plan on staying on stock room and only want quick root you have to use kingroot since that's only universal root that can root z1c. When it comes to recovery there you have two choices. To use xzdualrecovery or to unlock bootloader (you will loose drm keys which means you will lose stuff like x-reality) and flash normal recovery. I would go for dual recovery because if you ever wan't to get back to stock you can since stock recovery isn't getting overwritten with xzdr. But if you choose to unlock bootloader first backup TA (you have to be rooted) and then unlock.
Hope this helps
Raiyr said:
I guess I don't have to open a new thread for this: I've been reading a lot about this recently and trying to get my thoughts straight about this:
I found PhilZ Dual Recovery (https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2647480) which works with locked bootloader. Some people wrote there they installed the recovery on 5.0.2, so it seems I have to downgrade first (I'm on 5.1.1), even though it doesn't say that in the manual..? - if you can't answer that I'll ask that later then in the linked thread.
Next thing: I rooted with Kingroot, but want to switch to SuperSU - cant switch because theres a problem with the binary, so I have to flash it anyway through custom recovery.
Can I now root with Kingroot, install PhilZ Dualrecovery and when it boots into Recovery Mode, can I just flash the SuperSu.zip?
OR would I need to boot normally first after custom recovery install, then uninstall Kingroot, to unroot, and THEN flash SuperSU in Recovery?
Ive been using root for years but never really got into flashing before so I'm quite new to that and appreciate your help. Thanks a bunch.
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bolcna said:
I don't trust any universal rooting apps. Only way to legit root your phone is to downgrade to kitkat and then root using exploit, then flash prerooted lollipop (that is if you wan't to stay on stock rooted rom). If you don't plan on staying on stock room and only want quick root you have to use kingroot since that's only universal root that can root z1c. When it comes to recovery there you have two choices. To use xzdualrecovery or to unlock bootloader (you will loose drm keys which means you will lose stuff like x-reality) and flash normal recovery. I would go for dual recovery because if you ever wan't to get back to stock you can since stock recovery isn't getting overwritten with xzdr. But if you choose to unlock bootloader first backup TA (you have to be rooted) and then unlock.
Hope this helps
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I would go with unlock bl method. You can restore TA after rooting so you done lose drm, and it's easy to root with unlocked bl - https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72547776&postcount=6

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