So the Verizon 4.0.4 Factory Image was just published by Google, so I downloaded it to my phone for safe keeping. I'm just curious, if I install a custom ROM and I want to go back to stock ICS can I just flash this file like a ROM? Also will I loose root if I do that?
This is what I'm talking about.
Yes you loose root and custom recovery.
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actually, no... you have to flash it using fastboot commands, flashing image by image:
fastboot flash bootloader bootloaderxxxxx.img
fastboot flash system systemxxxx.img
fastboot flash recovery recoveryxxx.img
etc, etc, etc...
your phone will be exactly like never touched, that means of course, stock with no root or custom recovery.
barbac666 said:
Yes you loose root and custom recovery.
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thiagodark said:
actually, no... you have to flash it using fastboot commands, flashing image by image:
fastboot flash bootloader bootloaderxxxxx.img
fastboot flash system systemxxxx.img
fastboot flash recovery recoveryxxx.img
etc, etc, etc...
your phone will be exactly like never touched, that means of course, stock with no root or custom recovery.
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Thank you, so when I rooted my phone it created a recovery image, and that's what I would want to use to go back to "stock + keeping root"
Right?
Yes make a nandroid backup in CWM , and if you want to go back restore this.
In CWM go to backup and restore.
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Big Cam said:
Thank you, so when I rooted my phone it created a recovery image, and that's what I would want to use to go back to "stock + keeping root"
Right?
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don't understand exactly what you mean... the thing is:
"root" means that you have access to root files/partitions, that is it, but the usual way to get root is: unlock bootloader, flash custom recovery using fastboot, flash root file.
now you have a "stock" phone with root access and custom recovery (usually custom recovery is replaced by stock one in the first reboot) and you end with a stock phone + root! that is exactly what you want!
as barbac666 said, you should make a nandroid backup as soon as you flash your custom recovery, even before root it!
why don't you use the tool kit available in dev section?
It's alot easier if you use the Nexus tool kit v7, It makes it alot easier by placing the image file in the specific folder and just tapping a key. Then again it's best to keep a placed copy elsewhere as the image tends to get wiped/deleted after flashing (to avoid conflict with other image files).
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don't understand exactly what you mean... the thing is:
"root" means that you have access to root files/partitions, that is it, but the usual way to get root is: unlock bootloader, flash custom recovery using fastboot, flash root file.
now you have a "stock" phone with root access and custom recovery (usually custom recovery is replaced by stock one in the first reboot) and you end with a stock phone + root! that is exactly what you want!
as barbac666 said, you should make a nandroid backup as soon as you flash your custom recovery, even before root it!
why don't you use the tool kit available in dev section?
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I think I got it. I think I slightly misunderstood the true meaning of root.
All I've done so far is unlock the bootloader and flashed the recovery that was instructed in this thread. So the recovery image I flashed there, replaced my "stock" one, but after doing a reboot, the stock recovery replaced my custom one? So I'm now stock with an unlocked bootloader and root?
As for the toolkit, I'm going to look into it, I was just looking to root, and followed the guide I found.
thiagodark said:
don't understand exactly what you mean... the thing is:
"root" means that you have access to root files/partitions, that is it, but the usual way to get root is: unlock bootloader, flash custom recovery using fastboot, flash root file.
now you have a "stock" phone with root access and custom recovery (usually custom recovery is replaced by stock one in the first reboot) and you end with a stock phone + root! that is exactly what you want!
as barbac666 said, you should make a nandroid backup as soon as you flash your custom recovery, even before root it!
why don't you use the tool kit available in dev section?
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You dont need to flash cwm to get it running. If its only needed to flash su/superuser.apk, you may 'fastboot boot cwm.img', it will take you to cwm.
Misledz said:
It's alot easier if you use the Nexus tool kit v7, It makes it alot easier by placing the image file in the specific folder and just tapping a key. Then again it's best to keep a placed copy elsewhere as the image tends to get wiped/deleted after flashing (to avoid conflict with other image files).
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Why doesnt he use the toolkit? Because it's better for them if people learn how to do this manually. Scripts are helpful, but dont teach you anything.
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bk201doesntexist said:
Why doesnt he use the toolkit? Because it's better for them if people learn how to do this manually. Scripts are helpful, but dont teach you anything.
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That's exactly why I wanted to do it like that.
On my LG Revolution there was pretty much only one root method and it was a one click, so I've never rooted manually. I'm happy I did.
I have Rom ToolBox Pro that I bought when I had my Revolution so I have access to boot to recovery and manage ROM's. I was just curious about the Google image file.
So at this point, is there really a reason for the Toolbox? Since I'm rooted already, I can do backups from CWM Recovery as well as flashing ROM's and Kernals. I've only ever done this from CWM on the phone so I'm used to doing it on the phone. I read most of the thread and it seams most helpful in the rooting/unlocking process.
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Gnex Toolkit option 10 = Boot into custom recovery without permanently flashing it. I understand that this means that the stock recovery won't be overwritten. Does it therefore mean that you can use a custom recovery to flash zip files from sd partition without using/losing stock recovery?
NB Why can't I ask this question at the gnex toolkit thread? I don't appear to be allowed to join in.
optom2000 said:
Gnex Toolkit option 10 = Boot into custom recovery without permanently flashing it. I understand that this means that the stock recovery won't be overwritten. Does it therefore mean that you can use a custom recovery to flash zip files from sd partition without using/losing stock recovery?
NB Why can't I ask this question at the gnex toolkit thread? I don't appear to be allowed to join in.
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Yep, it means exactly that. You could do the same using the fastboot command fastboot boot <recovery-name>.img if you decide to ever learn to use fastboot and ADB (which you should ).
Unlawful said:
Yep, it means exactly that. You could do the same using the fastboot command fastboot boot <recovery-name>.img if you decide to ever learn to use fastboot and ADB (which you should ).
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@Unlawful. Thank you very much for your extremely prompt reply. Perhaps you would be kind enough to indulge me further. The reason I asked the question is that I am currently rooted and using a custom rom (Gummy) but fancy some JellyBean. I understand that I need to flash stock rom 4.0.4 and then flash stock recovery in order to get OTA update (btw do I need to do a system wipe before flashing the stock rom as you do before you flash a custom rom or is is ok just to flash stock without a separate manual wipe?), reboot and see if I get the OTA update immediately. If so I can just go ahead and update. If not I have the OTA update as a flashable zip file I obtained elsewhere in XDA. Hence if I have a stock recovery installed but can use a custom recovery (CWM Touch) I can flash the update as zip using CWM and then re-root and re-flash CWM permanently, all of this being done by the toolkit. Is my thinking correct?
Hi,
So there seem to be quite a few tools and methods out there with which you can root your phone, but what if I really only want to root it and nothing else; my only goal is to use apps that require root access.
I've got Android 4.1.1, but I suppose it shouldn't matter that much. Will I be able to update to a newer version with root access though?
Forgot to add:
What will I need to back up and how do I transfer my settings and contacts? I don't care much for lost apps since I don't have many.
Unlock the bootloader and flash a custom recovery. After that you make a nandroid backup and then install the superuser root script to give root acces in the rom.
Flash back the stock recovery and you are able to receive and install official ota's.
Is this all possible with this tool?
Now I don't want to act dumb or seem inept, but could you or someone else give me a more detailed description, maybe with a link or two?
Yes you can use that tool :thumbup:
Did you see my edit to the first post?
>>What will I need to back up and how do I transfer my settings and contacts? I don't care much for lost apps since I don't have many.
Can you tell me why I need to flash a custom recovery? Can't I 'just' root my phone as is and then leave it like that- rooted of course?
You can use an app called carbon to make a backup. You need a custom recovery to install the super user script. A stock one is not capable if doing that. And you don't root a phone. Only its software !
With hassoons tool, how do I flash the stock ROM back on it? I can see no option in his thread...
The stock nandroid backup needs to be installed via the custom recovery. Not with hassons tool kit. You can in that case only flash back the stock boot.img from the stock backup.
Hi, I decided I wanted to go through with my plans to root the phone and already run into a problem:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=43066305&posted=1#post43066305
Most recentpost...
EDIT: Selected Power down on the phone because I was getting impatient and paranoid and then disconnected the phone. Everything seems fine so far. I closed the console and the message "Get Token ID.." popped up and then the console reopened, apparently searching for the phone... -_-
Oh well, maybe next time. Right now I want to take a break/try something else.
Can someone tell me why Windows always trys to install new drivers even when they already are installed? Happened when I used the programm- updating drivers blabla...
I'll try again here...
Just a question:
Can I definitely receive official android/sense/hwatever ota updates but still keep the root access?
What i've gathered so far is that I need to use hassoons tool and how to guide,but only the first post.
After that I will have a rooted stock ROM with ClockworkMod recovery, right?
Then I should do a nandroid backup WITH CWM (how is this done exactly? hold volume down +power button, then recovery?)
What will be backed up with the nandroid backup? How big will this be roughly and can I/should I put it on PC to free up some space?
Regardless from this backup, I only need the recovery.img, which in my case will be MY personal backed up STOCK recovery.img,is that correct?
How do I flash my stock recovery?
Edit:
Once I have the stock recovery again, will my phone still have root access? Is everything from then on -stock- except for root access?
I'm quite familiar with the Skipsoft Toolkits. I've used them plenty of times in the past.
Bought a Nexus 7 2013 today. First thing it wanted to do was update from 4.3 to 4.4.2. I did that. Then 4.4.3. Did that.
I now wanted to use the tooklit to unlock and flash a custom recovery so I can try out CleanRom.
There is no 4.4.3 option in the toolkit.
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Can I select the 4.4.2 Build and then unlock the bootloader and flash a custom recovery? This is all I need correct? I typically always used the All in one option in previous devices but since 4.4.3 isn't an option I can't.
While were at it, the other things the "All in one" flash does, such as Busybox, Rename Recovery Restore Files and Root. Do I need to do any of these? What is busybox? Why would I need to rename recovery restore files? Is unlocking bootloader and flashing custom recovery all I need to do to start flashing Roms?
Just making sure as I've always gone the "All in one" Route.
And Yes, I know I can do via ADB but Its been a long time since I've done it and would rather take the familiar route.
bigystyle84 said:
I'm quite familiar with the Skipsoft Toolkits. I've used them plenty of times in the past.
Bought a Nexus 7 2013 today. First thing it wanted to do was update from 4.3 to 4.4.2. I did that. Then 4.4.3. Did that.
I now wanted to use the tooklit to unlock and flash a custom recovery so I can try out CleanRom.
There is no 4.4.3 option in the toolkit.
Question
Can I select the 4.4.2 Build and then unlock the bootloader and flash a custom recovery? This is all I need correct? I typically always used the All in one option in previous devices but since 4.4.3 isn't an option I can't.
While were at it, the other things the "All in one" flash does, such as Busybox, Rename Recovery Restore Files and Root. Do I need to do any of these? What is busybox? Why would I need to rename recovery restore files? Is unlocking bootloader and flashing custom recovery all I need to do to start flashing Roms?
Just making sure as I've always gone the "All in one" Route.
And Yes, I know I can do via ADB but Its been a long time since I've done it and would rather take the familiar route.
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Don't use toolkits.
I advise learning how to do this operation manually. It's very simple. Read this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/goo...ide-nexus-5-how-to-unlock-bootloader-t2507905
I know it's a long read. But seriously, you can unlock the bootloader, fastboot flash an update, flash a recovery, and have root in about 3 minutes.
I would say a normal user does not need busybox. And most apps that require it come with their own version.
Hello friends, I just got a new refurbished rogers(canada) HTC M8 GSM phone.Its totally stock at this moment and would like to do sim unlock,s-off and boot loader unlock. But before i would like to get full back up of my stock.Few questions:
1.How can i do full complete backup of my stock phone in case in future i need to revert back?
2. what are the steps to do s-off,sim unlock and bootloader unlock?
Right now phone says:
Android version 4.4.3
HTC sence version 6.0
software number 2.23.631.2
HTC SDK API level 6.25
kernel version
3.4.0--g523xxxxxx
baseband version
1.19.2133xxxxxxxx
build number
2.23.631.xxxxxxxrelease-keys
Thanks in advance...
Go to HTCDev.com to unlock the bootloader. The process is self-explanatory (just follow the website instructions). There is a writeup on the following guide, if you need help. But honestly, if you can follow instruction, the process is self-explanatory as I mentioned: http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8/general/vomerguides-m8-bootldr-unlock-s-off-t2800727
Then, to backup the stock ROM and recovery, follow the instructions listed on the following thread under "How do i backup the stock HTC recovery?" : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2701376
This process will boot custom recovery without actually flashing recovery it to the phone, allowing you to backup stock recovery as well as the stock ROM (if you flash custom recovery before doing this, stock recovery is over-written and therefore can't be backed up). Note that your version's stock ROM and recovery may already be uploaded to the above thread by another XDA user.
Then achieve root by your preferred method (flash custom recovery and flash SU/SuperSU, or use weaksauce, towelroot, etc.). Then use sunshine to achieve s-off (firewater s-off will likely not work, as it was patched some time ago): http://theroot.ninja/
Then after s-off, you can unlock SIM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2708572
Thanks a lot redpont73 for your directions!!!Will follow your steps and let you know how things went..Thanks
Ok i unlocked my bootloader with htcdev.com and it says unlocked now.
Now how to backup my stock at this point? I tried this thread you showed me: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2701376 but didn't understand fully. but it says :fastboot boot recovery_filename.img (this does not work on the latest 3.xx firmwares !!! we need to get the stock recoveries from the OTA files)"
I am little confused at this point.How can i back up at this point without installing any recovery software like twrp?please guide me.thanks
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Now how to backup my stock at this point? I tried this thread you showed me: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2701376 but didn't understand fully. but it says :fastboot boot recovery_filename.img (this does not work on the latest 3.xx firmwares !!! we need to get the stock recoveries from the OTA files)"
I am little confused at this point.How can i back up at this point without installing any recovery software like twrp?
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By placing the custom recovery image in your fastboot folder, you can then boot recovery without actually flashing it to the phone, using the command you quoted. Think of it as remotely running the TWRP software that is still located on your PC (at least I think that is how it works).
Once you are booted into TWRP, you can backup system (stock ROM) and recovery(stock recovery).
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By placing the custom recovery image in your fastboot folder, you can then boot recovery without actually flashing it to the phone, using the command you quoted. Think of it as remotely running the TWRP software that is still located on your PC (at least I think that is how it works).
Once you are booted into TWRP, you can backup system (stock ROM) and recovery(stock recovery).
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Could you please help me to find the custom recovery image that i can put in my fast boot folder and please step by step if you don't mind please.Just trying to learn and don't want to brick my phone with any wrong move.thanks
i found this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=53770286&postcount=4
Will that help?thanks
ninja_zx11 said:
i found this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=53770286&postcount=4
Will that help?thanks
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Yes, that is another method.
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ninja_zx11 said:
Could you please help me to find the custom recovery image that i can put in my fast boot folder and please step by step if you don't mind please.
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Go to the General forum section for the M8, and look at the Index thread (sticky at the top of that forum) to find link to recoveries and other resources, including guides and how-tos. Read up and learn.
Taking the time to familiarize yourself with the basic concepts and processes is much more valuable than someone walking your though step-by-step. I won't walk you through step-by-step, as you will learn very little that way.
The process is not that difficult, anyway. You already used fastboot to unlock the bootloader. Other fastboot commands are not any different in execution. If you can't handle taking it from here, modding the phone probably isn't for you.
With S-on, you aren't going to brick the phone by backing up or flashing recovery. Even with s-off, as long as you only flash things intended for the M8 (and only for the GSM version - not CDMA - to be safe), you will not brick. You can only brick the phone if you damage hboot, radio, or partition tables.
redpoint73 said:
Yes, that is another method.
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Go to the General forum section for the M8, and look at the Index thread (sticky at the top of that forum) to find link to recoveries and other resources, including guides and how-tos. Read up and learn.
Taking the time to familiarize yourself with the basic concepts and processes is much more valuable than someone walking your though step-by-step. I won't walk you through step-by-step, as you will learn very little that way.
The process is not that difficult, anyway. You already used fastboot to unlock the bootloader. Other fastboot commands are not any different in execution. If you can't handle taking it from here, modding the phone probably isn't for you.
With S-on, you aren't going to brick the phone by backing up or flashing recovery. Even with s-off, as long as you only flash things intended for the M8 (and only for the GSM version - not CDMA - to be safe), you will not brick. You can only brick the phone if you damage hboot, radio, or partition tables.
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Yes you are right...I will read more and i want to learn and will try to do it myself.If i will have some confusion, i will ask here.Looks like i need more reading.
Now what i am planning to do is:
1. Install twrp
2.Take a full nandroid backup.(will it be enough to save me in future if i would like to go back to stock after S-OFF?)
3.root and s-off.
Does it make sense?
ninja_zx11 said:
Now what i am planning to do is:
1. Install twrp
2.Take a full nandroid backup.(will it be enough to save me in future if i would like to go back to stock after S-OFF?)
3.root and s-off.
Does it make sense?
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The process to backup stock recovery is easy, by either method we already discussed. If you want to be thorough, backup stock recovery.
Backing up stock recovery and stock ROM is sufficient to return (mostly) to stock. There isn't much else you can do
redpoint73 said:
The process to backup stock recovery is easy, by either method we already discussed. If you want to be thorough, backup stock recovery.
Backing up stock recovery and stock ROM is sufficient to return (mostly) to stock. There isn't much else you can do
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UPDATE:
I downloaded latest twrp and i booted into twrp .then took full backup. i also took back up using philz touch same way by just booting into philztouch.
Then i tried to root using supersu by same booting into twrp and tried to root.it created a supersu icon on the spring board and then i tried to install it from play store but it errored out and phone rebooted.After that i tried to remove the supersu icon from the phone but just couldnt. Then i thought of restoring stock backup using twrp and it restored it to stock stage.Atleast now i know that my stock backup worked.!!!
Now my question is why did supersu not root my phone?Should i try another method?please advice.thanks
ninja_zx11 said:
UPDATE:
I downloaded latest twrp and i booted into twrp .then took full backup. i also took back up using philz touch same way by just booting into philztouch.
Then i tried to root using supersu by same booting into twrp and tried to root.it created a supersu icon on the spring board and then i tried to install it from play store but it errored out and phone rebooted.After that i tried to remove the supersu icon from the phone but just couldnt. Then i thought of restoring stock backup using twrp and it restored it to stock stage.Atleast now i know that my stock backup worked.!!!
Now my question is why did supersu not root my phone?Should i try another method?please advice.thanks
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huh? Did you flash it and then tried to install it from the play store after it was already "installed" by being flashed in custom recovery? If not, what exactly are you talking about here?
I've never bothered with the play store, just boot the custom recovery and flash the latest SuperSU. That's it... :silly:
BerndM14 said:
huh? Did you flash it and then tried to install it from the play store after it was already "installed" by being flashed in custom recovery? If not, what exactly are you talking about here?
I've never bothered with the play store, just boot the custom recovery and flash the latest SuperSU. That's it... :silly:
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thanks BerndM14, i just copied supersu zip to internal storage as you said and installed it by booting into twrp from pc. and its done... thanks..
ninja_zx11 said:
UPDATE:
I downloaded latest twrp and i booted into twrp .then took full backup. i also took back up using philz touch same way by just booting into philztouch.
Then i tried to root using supersu by same booting into twrp and tried to root.it created a supersu icon on the spring board and then i tried to install it from play store but it errored out and phone rebooted.After that i tried to remove the supersu icon from the phone but just couldnt. Then i thought of restoring stock backup using twrp and it restored it to stock stage.Atleast now i know that my stock backup worked.!!!
Now my question is why did supersu not root my phone?Should i try another method?please advice.thanks
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Sounds like a brick in the making.
Make sure that you read and understand what you are about to do before you do it.
A nandroid won't always help you.
If I may make a suggestion, don't go S-Off.
I am abandoning the idea of doing S-off after the suggestion from xunholyx above and after reading this http://android-revolution-hd.blogspot.ca/2013/06/do-we-really-need-s-off.html.
ninja_zx11 said:
I am abandoning the idea of doing S-off after the suggestion from xunholyx above and after reading this http://android-revolution-hd.blogspot.ca/2013/06/do-we-really-need-s-off.html.
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I see you are learning. I will never understand why folks seek to get s-off, without even understanding what it means. You should not be attempting any mods, unless you fully understand what the purpose is (such as s-off).
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I see you are learning. I will never understand why folks seek to get s-off, without even understanding what it means. You should not be attempting any mods, unless you fully understand what the purpose is (such as s-off).
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thanks redpoint73 for giving me helping hand!! without your help i wouldn't have done it.....
I don't really need a custom recovery (I don't know of any features custom recovery will give me I really need?) and for now I'm fine running stock roms (I always give stock a few weeks just as a baseline before I start custom roms) but I was wondering, how would one go about rooting the OP3 without installing a custom recovery?
Is it possible / easily doable? Or am I better off just to flash some custom recovery and ditch the stock one?
The reason I don't want to go away from stock just yet is I know oneplus is still updating the rom and custom recoveries, historically, have made OTA updates problematic.
Rooting will also mess up Ota too, but if u install a custom recovery, now that we have stock recovery it will be very easy to revert back for OTAs, there should be a way to root without a custom recovery but I am not sure how though, but with how oneplus makes it so easy to unlock bootloader and flash customers stuff there is really no need to stay stock
You can simply connect your OP3 to a PC and boot to TWRP without flashing it:
fastboot boot twrp.img
Then do a backup with twrp before rooting. I use the above method with systemless root
and also don't really need a custom recovery at this point. This might change once CM13 matures on the OP3...
OTAs might work this way in the future. If they don't, restore your system + boot (kernel) partition
and try the OTA again.
edit: implying your bootloader is already unlocked
pileot said:
I don't really need a custom recovery (I don't know of any features custom recovery will give me I really need?) and for now I'm fine running stock roms (I always give stock a few weeks just as a baseline before I start custom roms) but I was wondering, how would one go about rooting the OP3 without installing a custom recovery?
Is it possible / easily doable? Or am I better off just to flash some custom recovery and ditch the stock one?
The reason I don't want to go away from stock just yet is I know oneplus is still updating the rom and custom recoveries, historically, have made OTA updates problematic.
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As far as I know, you'd have to have TWRP to get root.
I don't think getting it rooted will mess up the OTA updates, other users sprovide flashable zips for the OTA anyway.. so you can still flash the zips manually with TWRP to keep you updated.
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To get root yes, you would need TWRP to flash to certain partitions but to keep root no. Your phone will operate just fine with root and stock recovery. Check what the user a few posts above mine said about temporary flashing TWRP to achieve your short term goals
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You can simply connect your OP3 to a PC and boot to TWRP without flashing it:
fastboot boot twrp.img
Then do a backup with twrp before rooting. I use the above method with systemless root
and also don't really need a custom recovery at this point. This might change once CM13 matures on the OP3...
OTAs might work this way in the future. If they don't, restore your system + boot (kernel) partition
and try the OTA again.
edit: implying your bootloader is already unlocked
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So have you actually done this by temporary booting twrp and then using the systemless root and still have stock recovery? Also how do I root systemless? Really wanna know because wanna keep stock recovery and have root
TheSvensson said:
So have you actually done this by temporary booting twrp and then using the systemless root and still have stock recovery? Also how do I root systemless? Really wanna know because wanna keep stock recovery and have root
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Yes, I have the stock recovery and it is rooted.
The recovery partition has nothing to do with all the other partitions except that it can read and write them.
This is the zip I flashed to get systemless root:
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24591000424939898
Some users reported that some Root-apps are not supported this way.
I am using Titanium Backup, Adaway, Trimmer and Root Explorer without issues.
Keep in mind that I did not get any OTA so far since running this setup, so I am not sure if official OTAs will or will not work.
All I did was manually flash OxygenOS 3.1.3 in TWRP (not flashed but booted) and reflash the root package afterwards.
AcmE85 said:
You can simply connect your OP3 to a PC and boot to TWRP without flashing it:
fastboot boot twrp.img
Then do a backup with twrp before rooting. I use the above method with systemless root
and also don't really need a custom recovery at this point. This might change once CM13 matures on the OP3...
OTAs might work this way in the future. If they don't, restore your system + boot (kernel) partition
and try the OTA again.
edit: implying your bootloader is already unlocked
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I have an unlocked bootloader and tried this on my PC:
C:\adb>fastboot boot twrp.img
downloading 'boot.img'...
OKAY [ 0.709s]
booting...
OKAY [ 0.373s]
finished. total time: 1.092s
Nothing happens, bootloader start screen stays frozen. Until I hold down the power button. Might you know why?
AcmE85 said:
You can simply connect your OP3 to a PC and boot to TWRP without flashing it:
fastboot boot twrp.img
Then do a backup with twrp before rooting. I use the above method with systemless root
and also don't really need a custom recovery at this point. This might change once CM13 matures on the OP3...
OTAs might work this way in the future. If they don't, restore your system + boot (kernel) partition
and try the OTA again.
edit: implying your bootloader is already unlocked
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i tried to boot into twrp recovery with above command, but the phone seems to be stuck in the bootloader and not responding. Any ideas?
edit: comment above describes exact same behaviour, sorry for double post
Sorry, don't know. Booting takes a couple seconds on my device though.
I am using this recovery img: http://www6.zippyshare.com/v/iK6tCE6D/file.html
Got it from XDA, but unfortunately don't know anymore who build it.
AcmE85 said:
Sorry, don't know. Booting takes a couple seconds on my device though.
I am using this recovery img: http://www6.zippyshare.com/v/iK6tCE6D/file.html
Got it from XDA, but unfortunately don't know anymore who build it.
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Thanks, that twrp img worked for me. The one I was using didnt allow me to boot to it.
AcmE85 said:
Keep in mind that I did not get any OTA so far since running this setup, so I am not sure if official OTAs will or will not work.
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Any chance you know if you get OTA by now?
I really like the Op3 and dont wont to change anything except i would like to habe root access. Your method seems to be the best way to achieve that.
hahamuntz said:
Any chance you know if you get OTA by now?
I really like the Op3 and dont wont to change anything except i would like to habe root access. Your method seems to be the best way to achieve that.
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The updater will recognize root on your device and download the full 1.3 gb Rom file.
But after updating root will be gone, so you will have to reflash root after each ota.
AcmE85 said:
The updater will recognize root on your device and download the full 1.3 gb Rom file.
But after updating root will be gone, so you will have to reflash root after each ota.
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Thanks for the quick answer
Just to make sure, if I root using this method nothing will change, except I have root access, my bootloader is unlocked and the updates will be big, but I can update the normal way, I will just lose the root access? Is that correct or am I missing something?
hahamuntz said:
Thanks for the quick answer
Just to make sure, if I root using this method nothing will change, except I have root access, my bootloader is unlocked and the updates will be big, but I can update the normal way, I will just lose the root access? Is that correct or am I missing something?
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One more thing:
If you have TWRP, automatically installing the big OTA will remove it and go back to the stock recovery.
I always manually move the downloaded ota from android/data/com.oneplus.ota/files/.OnePlusOta
to my download folder, boot into TWRP and flash it + SuperSU on my own.
AcmE85 said:
One more thing:
If you have TWRP, automatically installing the big OTA will remove it and go back to the stock recovery.
I always manually move the downloaded ota from android/data/com.oneplus.ota/files/.OnePlusOta
to my download folder, boot into TWRP and flash it + SuperSU on my own.
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So you have TWRP installed? I thought you won't get OTAs if you have a custom recovery? So i could just flash TWRP and root and still get OTAs?
hahamuntz said:
So you have TWRP installed? I thought you won't get OTAs if you have a custom recovery? So i could just flash TWRP and root and still get OTAs?
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Yes, OTAs will come and because of Root you will get the full OTA regardless, which does not cause any issues with TWRP.
I tried my previous method and the regular OTA would fail because of root which changes the kernel or the system partition.
OnePlus reacted to this and introduced the full rom OTAs at some point.
So with root on my device this is how I do OTAs now:
- get the OTA notification for the full rom
- download but don't install
- move the downloaded zip from android/data/com.oneplus.ota/files/.OnePlusOta to my download folder
- manually boot into twrp and flash full rom zip + SuperSU
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Yes, OTAs will come and because of Root you will get the full OTA regardless which does not cause any issues with TWRP.
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Okay, thanks so much for your help