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Hey all,
I own an unlocked ATT Tilt 1 (Kaiser 8925). It is currently running windows mobile which is extremely slow. I have read all over the internet that you can put the Android 2.2 OS on this phone and have seen youtube videos on this topic also.
Ideally I need to be able to buy apps from the android marketplace.
Since I'm not a phone hacker I'd like to find a professional cel phone service company that can do this for me.
I searched extensively on Google and can't seem to find one. So who can do this and what is the normal charge for something like this.
Just trying make my old phone useful in wifi mode.
Any advice would be great.
Regards Henry
I don't think there is a company that provides such a service especially if we take in to account that kaiser/tilt is a 3 year old device and the android port is not official. There are plenty of topics in the forum describing how to replace winmo with Android. You don't have to be a hacker to run Android on your phone. Just read the stickies and you wil be able to flash ityourself in no time
There are phone dealers out there (in the USA anyway), that will do this for a fee on the Kaiser, but trust me, with what has gone into the development of this, almost anyone can do it. Save yourself the money and try it yourself. The worst I've heard about is a mis-flashed phone needing some master reset.
The question is who?
I live here in the Orlando area and have called a number of cel phone companies.
I was treated like King Gidorah Three Headed Space Monster. They didn't have a clue this could be done.
Henrykjr said:
I live here in the Orlando area and have called a number of cel phone companies.
I was treated like King Gidorah Three Headed Space Monster. They didn't have a clue this could be done.
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Listen HenrykJR there are about dozens of android builds on this forum + many different versions of two kernels, not all of those will work correctly for you. You might experience different issues with one setup but the other will work correctly for you. So even if there was a company that could flash it for you, you might end up with an unstable device. Also how could a company gain knowledge on flashing android builds to a phone that was originally shipped with windows mobile??? You seem to be looking for Nessy....in woods.
Your best bet now is to find someone in the forums to help you flash your device....maybe even use skype to show you how to do it. It really isn't that hard.
Hehe, i don´t think you´ll find a Company that will do it for you. Maybe you find some guys that do it for Money (me to ). But if you spend a little time with reading through this forum you could do it yourself and save the money.
Preparing:
1.) You need a SD card (mandatory for android on Kaiser). And you need a Google Mail Account for syncing your contacts etc. and access the android market.
2.) You have to "unlock" your Phone (with HSPL/HardSPL). Only after that you are able to flash things (Cusom WinMo ROMs, Radio, Android) to your Kaiser. So read through this guide and follow step 1-4.
3.) Now you have an unlocked phone an you should be able to flash everything. And the first thing you flash should be the latest "radio". The "radio" for Kaiser is similar to the BIOS for your PC. Like the subsystem and responsible for GSM chipset etc... So look & read in this Radio-Thread, download the latest Radio (it is 1.71.09.01) an follow the guide "Flashing Radio from microSD"
4.) Now your Phone is up-to-date and ready for flashing Android (or WinMo custom roms). YOU NEVER HAVE TO DO THE STEPS 1-3 AGAIN! Your Phone is now completely prepared!
Flashing Android:
For Android on Kaiser you always need 2 Parts. The Kernel (this part initialize the hardware so its similar to "driver" on PC) and the Built (the Android OS itself). But Both should work together so you´ll may find in some kernel suggestions in Built-threads because not ever kernel work with every built. For your beginning i whould suggest you some things:
First the kernel:
DZO is the most popular (the father of android on Kaiser) Kernel-Developer for Kaiser. So go to his repository and download "voguimg-240x320-2.6.32-froyo-09-10-10_23.nbh". Because Vouge and kaiser have almost the same hardware we all could use this kernel. But everyone have to modify this kernel to make phone related optimizations. You can do thy by hand (not recommended for you) or with a tool called "Atools". This tool is writthen in "Python" so mac and linux user could use it too. But you need to install Python. But that is all described in the Atools thread. Read through it and follow the guide.
Modifing Kernel:
We will only modify the madatory things. Not more at the moment...
So run Atools, klick on the "folder" Button and load the "voguimg-240x320-2.6.32-froyo-09-10-10_23.nbh".
Device: "Kaiser" should be checked
Resolution: 240x320 should be checked (native resolution of Kaiser display). Everything else will give blurry optic.
Version: "Froyo" should be checked, because we will flash a Froyo built (thats android 2.2). If you want to flash an older built like a Donut one (1.6) you have to modify & flash your kernel again.
Panel Type: Try "auto" or "1" first. But if you have a fuzzy screen or artifacts you have to try out which paneltype fits best for your device. HTC has built in 3 different displays in the Kaiser and the only way to find out which one is builtin is trial & error.
Keymap: Depends on which hardware keyboard layout you have. Here in Germeny i have to use "qwertz".
We leave the other options as they are an klick on the "Disk" button to save our modificated kernel now. it save it as "KAISIMG.nbh".
Now we need the Built:
I suggest "Fat Free Froyo" at the moment. Fast, stable, an looks good. So go to this thread and download "ODEX DOWNLOAD RLS5 ALL LANG-ODEX" on the bottom of the post.
then unzip/unrar this file...
Flashing your first Android:
1.) You should have a fat32 formatted SD card
2.) put the Kernel (the modified KAISIMG.nbh) to the root of SD card
3.) Create a folder named "andboot" on SD card
4.) Put the unzipped file (androidinstall.tar or .tgz) in the folder "andboot"
5.) Remove SIMcard and any cables from phone and put the SD card in your phone. Battery should be 50% carged or more...
6.) go to bootloader-mode (press and hold camera button and powerbutton). the KAISIMG should be loaded and it will show you "press powerbutton to update" or something similar. Do that... Now a progressbar will appear. When it is at 100% wait a few seconds an then pull the battery. Wait 10 seconds an insert it again. Voila! You flashed your first android kernel!
7.) Now we have to install android itself. So Power on the phone. In the moment when you see small white text on black background you have to press and hold the d-pad button. This one in the middle. Now you get in the install menu.
8.) Leave the options "System on nand" and "DATA on nand" as it is. Navigate to "install system" an press dpad. It ask "format system" and "format data". Both "YES". after this procedure you enter the menu again. navigate to "quit".
9.) Yeah! The first Bootup of Android! The first bootup takes longer as the following ones because now the system prepares for bootup and do a lot of optimisations. Even if you enter the lockscreen you should give it 10 minutes time to finish this optimization process in backround.
10.) Finish! You have flashed your first android completely! Now you can play around and make your settings. Remember: You have to sign in to your google account befor you can access the market or syncronize your contacts etc.!
Sounds more complicated as it is. Try it!
And if you´ll dig in deeper in this stuff you have to read here! Especially the Stickies/Refs/Tutorials! We´ve all done that!
have fun!
Henrykjr said:
Hey all,
I own an unlocked ATT Tilt 1 (Kaiser 8925). It is currently running windows mobile which is extremely slow. I have read all over the internet that you can put the Android 2.2 OS on this phone and have seen youtube videos on this topic also.
Ideally I need to be able to buy apps from the android marketplace.
Since I'm not a phone hacker I'd like to find a professional cel phone service company that can do this for me.
I searched extensively on Google and can't seem to find one. So who can do this and what is the normal charge for something like this.
Just trying make my old phone useful in wifi mode.
Any advice would be great.
Regards Henry
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Brother, You can do it yourself, I can assure you. Regarding any ambiguity, you can contact me through PM. (I can guide you complete on voice over skype / msn). Its a TIDEOUS job but EASY to do since there is no MEANS OF BRICKING your kaiser (unless you flash something else than what u have do to install android).
I am here to help you in this community. And you can do this thing yourself.
Your device is At&t Tilt. The bad thing about installing android is getting a RIGHT kernel that suits your LCD type and enables wifi in the android build u install. (maybe in 1st try, maybe takes almost 10 tries like it happened for me)
Hi XDA geeks , pros and fans !
I'd like to start this new threadline concerning the freshly-appeared TCT MOVE handheld device marketed for the budget segment.As i understand it appeared in march or later this year and has quite good specs for the approx. 100 euro category.
Some details can be found on
http://alcatelonetouch.com/products/smartphones/move
Contrarily to some beliefs IT IS NOT a branded OT-908 ,rather a cosmetized one .It comes in black or silver / white , a bit heavy for it's size , and higher specs than the OT-908.
Concerning the hardware specs, i'll be coming back later with some accurate chipset and sensor details.For now
OS is Android Froyo v2.2.2.Looks like there will be official ROM updates,at the time being there is the OneTouch Upgrade v1.2 ,which downloads about 540 Mb chunked firmware files, and exits with error.
Memory is 512 Mb RAM , for user space is available about 300 Mb
512 Mb ROM flash, available to user about 160Mb.
SD card slot supports up to 32Gb MicroSD, the phone comes with a 2Gb one.
Camera is a 2.1Mpixel one.There is no secondary one,but the main camera is available for video calls,with Yahoo! Messenger i tested it myself.How to use it this way i will explain later.
GPS is amazing , if assistance software is used , the lock-on takes only seconds.
Sensors - linear acceleration sensor
- 3 axis orientation sensor
- 3 channel magnetic field sensor (digital compass)
- light sensor for illuminance detection
- optical proximity sensor , it seems not in use by operating system(or rather poorly)
Processor - 600 MHz Qualcomm ARMv6 compatible, min frequency is 122 Mhz, and deep sleep capability.Qualcomm MSM 7627 chipset
rooting ?
hi djada80.i should like to ask if you managed to root your phone ?
Yeah , it's quite simple.There are in the Android Market some free apps , i think the best which i also use is the one named Ginger Break.Just download and install it.Detailed usage info can be found here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1044765
firmware upgrade
it seems that the branded ones somehow cannot be upgraded ! at this point i need assistance , so PLEASE , if there is anybody experienced in debranding Acatel smartphones, then YOU ARE MOST WELCOME !.I saw guys having problem with debranding T-Mobile Move , so let's DO IT !
cannot sync with windows
i cannot sync my tmobile move with windows.have a toshiba satellite c665 with win 7 .pls help !
connect phone to computer,enable usb tethering.install alcatel android manager on computer. Can be found here
alcatelonetouch.com/contents/download/T-Mobile_AndroidManager_2.2.1108.1645.rar
This should work,instead of Android Sync Manager WiFi ,the last has some issues with this phone ,do not use it.
Yahoo! messenger front camera
Contrarily to some beliefs THERE IS POSSIBLE TO MAKE VIDEO CALLS with front camera only on Froyo 2.2.It is quite simple:
1.) if you have any version of yahoo apps , remove them all
2.) install Y!Messenger v1.3.2 , the afferent audio and video plugin and
optionally Y!Mail v1.3.2
Nothing fancy with it , just works.Remember, DO NOT UPDATE from Market.
Might also check this,if it doesn't work
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1087769
remove bundled apps ?
Hi !
Is there a way to remove some of the unnecessary factory shipped apps ?
RE
Yes , there is. So the smart method vould be to remove them from phone memory , and eventually install it on SD Card , if they are (and they are) UNMOVABLE.
Or just leave them ,anyway a factory reset will restore all the shipped applications.
1.) [optional] install Android SDK with platform 2.2 , sdk tools and eventually drivers.Enable USB debugging on device.On PC launch command prompt and change directory to \Android\android-sdk\platform-tools\.Run command
adb shell pm setInstallLocation 2
This enables SDCARD installation by default.Prerequisits to have ROOT ACCESS.
2.) with RootExplorer simply delete unwanted applications from \custpack\apps\ on device.Optionally you can make backups.
3.) if you made backups , the backed-up apk can be used to be reinstalled , NOW ON SD CARD
Good luck.
RE again
A reboot of the device is required to cleanup the junk after a forced delete.Or it can be done manually , BUT USE CAUTION.
i have an alcatel move branded Cosmote Move, i like this phone very much but i`ve managed to brick it the second time, first time i bricked and took it to waranty, they reinstall the software free of charge, now it has the same simptoms (pass the carrier logo and get stuck to carrier animation) and i need to send it to waranty again. i dont manage to get it unbricked. i`ve root it with gingerbreak but this phone doesnt go to recovery mode. i`ve searched the internet and google it for hours, but nothing.
if anyone knows how to do it please tell me, in the user manual says hard reset vol - and power, get stuck whit touch buttons light up and screen black!!
thanks in advance
re Themaster
it's not a brick yet i suppose , though you didn't specify how you managed to "brick" your phone.a nice clean reflash would solve the problem , probably you deleted some system files while in root mode.again did you use root explorer or something similar ?
try a factory reset as it follows:
1.) turn off the phone
2.) press vol up and the power on and hold the buttons pressed for about 1 minute
3.) the phone boots up , android logo appears and then an animation with some sort of thrashcan or whatever
4.)wait until it finishes , then the phone shuts down automatically.power on the phone and it will be restored
Beware ,battery must be at least 70 % charged or kept in charger , NOT USB connected to PC.
This restores phone to factory state , but not all the applications from /custpack/apps
Best regards !
Useful Key Combinations
These keypress modes apply on a shut down phone
Hard Reset - reinstalls android core system from ROM , deletes user data and misconfig
key combo : vol up + power on long pressed until trashcan animation appears
Flash Mode - used for ROM update , useless momentarily
key combo: vol down + power on long pressed , black screen appears and touch buttons lit up
Root access , mount filesystem with root access ,DANGEROUS !
key combo : home + power on long pressed until boot
build environment under Ubuntu
Lately, there has been some problems setting up an Android build environment under Lucid Lynx, as i've seen many have been complained for the missing java5 jdk.
For Romanian users: seems to be a problem with the Romtelecom DNS servers , when adding Jaunty or Dapper repositories to Lucid.
Use Google DNS as alternatives 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4.This works.
From what I've been able to determine. The move and 908(s) are the same hardware with with only cosmetic differences. Something is different in software, I've been unable to root my 908s with ANY tools I've found.
I was also unable to use ADB under windows. The handset apparently requires four drivers, I was only able to find three of them. I got the Alcatel tools to work, as well as tethering, but no ADB. i didn't have any such issues under Ubuntu, but without root it isn't helpful.
I could not locate a stock rom or source anywhere on the Alcatel sites, so I sent a GPL request, i'm waiting to hear back.
UPDATE
After a long night I managed to root my 908s. I'll write out the jist of it, but I was flying by the seat of my pants, fueled by caffeine and sleep depervation. DON'T consider this a HOWTO.
First off, to the best of my knowlage there is no one click solution as of yet. As I said before still missing the driver that makes ADB work in windows, and handset based solutions didn't pan out. A little reasearch showed that the OT-990 has the same chip/ram and ROM space as ours. The screen is bigger, and I don't know what board is in it, but on a hunch I figured it was close enough. So I went here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1164391 in the hopes that some sort of combined effort in future ROM development would be possible.
Yes that's right folks its a guide to MANUALLY root you handset with ADB. So not for the faint of heart. I didn't have high hopes, as issuing ls -l on either the sqlite folder or data threw a permission denied. So blindly I tried to push psneuter, busybox and su to /data/local. I almost fell off my chair when it worked! from there I used psneuter to get ADB into root, and managed to get the su binary to /system/xbin, and Superuser into /system/app. Superuser was installed, but still no root. So I checked out Root Checker to see what was going on. There are three places that su typically lives; /system/xbin, /system/bin, and /sbin. So I tried to put su in those folders. I got it into /system/bin but sbin is mounted read-only. I did not remount any directories, as the instructions are lacking syntax (I'm a little rusty with advanced mounting commands). I think things are mapped a little differently anyway. I still did not have root on the handset, so I then fired up Superuser to see what it could see. It saw the su binary, even though it wasn't working right. Then I thought well if it can see it, then maybe it can update and fix it. Sure enough after running the update to su in Superuser, (drumroll please...) I had working root.
So that's my story so far, I'm gonna give Alcatel a week or so to reply to my request. Then we'll take it from there. (Hey it worked on Huewei right?)
If a real dev should come across this, feel free to jump in. Its a solid little phone and has the potential to work on a range of handsets.
Gratitude
Thanks snkiz for your attention ! I am pleased that someone 'heavy' noticed my efforts of dedicating this threadline to the newcomer ! Indeed a small little phone with potential , maybe in time we get it gingerbread , cupcake ( or whatever ),even wm6.5 or 7 ...
As of ADB drivers , i had ADB from the first by these steps:
1.) http://www.alcatelonetouch.com/contents/download/move upgrade 1.2 Setup.rar , package contains the drivers
Now i noticed that when i try firmware upgrade , the utility downloads about half a giga of *.bin files and then exits with 'download failed error'.
2.) installed Android SDK , platform tools and Google drivers (i am not sure if necessary), the 2.2 platform (api 8)
Under Win7 cmd in platform tools , adb shell , su and on device pops up 'unknown has been granted superuser rights' and voila! in cmd shell i have '#'.Previously installed Gingerbreak.
My device is a Cosmote Move.
Ya, no I got that file too. I think they are "consumer drivers" because like I said I got all the Alcatel tools running but on my win 7 one driver was still missing, and I have pretty good googlefu. effin hate windows, this is why. I'm by no means a "heavy" but I am comfortable in a Linux environment, that helps alot. As to you being able to get gingerbreak to work, i'd bet that comes down to carrier firmware.
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djada, seeing as your the op could you please re-tag the thread with the model numbers to make it easier to find? cosmote, 908, 908s, and qualcom should do.
perhaps a mod could move this thread to the android hacking forum where it can get the proper attention please?
ADB driver
Driver files are from WHATEVER.\android-sdk\extras\google\usb_driver\ , if does not install automatically , can be forced.Anyway Win$ux 7 detects ADB interface , installs some sh.t from windows update server , and you'll have an ADB interface in Device Manager (working or not).Try to force the google drivers.
On the other hand ,i'm sorry but dunno how to move the thread , maybe i should start a new one in
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=565&order=desc&page=552
Just looked at it and they don't have Alcatel
Mod
Just started workin on a Cyanogen build , if i manage to build at least a kernal img , maybe i can lure in the Koush guy from github.We are in need of flash , backup , recovery tools.Not as lucky as the Samsung or HTC guys ...
Hi,
So I came across an Elite Tablet with below Spec, looking for root/twrp/cwm:
Baylake
anzhen4mrd7_w
iNtel Atom Z3735F
Kitkat
Came across a similar device, ANZHEN4_M BAYTRAIL1418C453
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Hi,
So I came across an Elite Tablet with below Spec, looking for root/twrp/cwm:
Baylake
anzhen4mrd7_w
iNtel Atom Z3735F
Kitkat
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I can get to fastboot, but can't find any twrp to flash. Recovery is locked with a pin. It's one of those hotel tablets that lets you control the lights and order room service etc. Thought it could be fun to take it to the next step, but need some guidance.
Sorry to bring up a very old thread. I was just given one of these for free from a family member. This was a promotional device given away at a seminar. I would like to hack this to learn a bit but need a place to start.
Details from the tablet:
- IFWI VERSION: 1G-141024
- SERIAL_NUM: Baytrail 160ADA152
- DROIDBOOT VERSION: 2.0
- PRODUCT: ANZHEN4_N
It will boot into fastboot and recovery/droidboot but seems to be very restricted. I have options to upgrade via ADB, as well as loading a file from the SD card in the main settings however I assume these both need a signed file to succeed.
Google has led to some dead ends. Did find a listing of specifications from a shady looking russian site, linked here.
I would love to find the base firmware to have something to fall back on if I mess up, or even some help on how to go about pulling this myself from the device. From there I can work on root and loading custom roms. Crawl first.
Very appreciated for any future help!
have the same product and not find how root the device. Please helpme.
Hi all!
Some days ago I urooted my TV android tv box with superSU and then I restarted it. From that moment when I plug the device it only reach the T9 logo (not the android one) and don't go further.
I've tried different ways to try to unstuck it, but nothing has worked.
I tried:
- enter recovery boot by holding the button in the av hole -> nothing happens
- install new firmware with adb sideload with both ubuntu and windows 10 -> always get errors (often error: closed, sometime other errors that at the moment don't remember)
- install new firmware with sd card using SDCard Installer -> the device doesn't boot when the sd is inserted
Moreover, with adb in ubuntu sometimes it recognises the device and I can enter the adb shell (but obtain errors when try any tipe of command), and sometimes don't (after adb devices I see list of attached devices: ??????????????? offline)
Now I'm thinking to try to install an ubuntu like on an usb pendrive...
I will be very grateful of any help/suggestion to how to revive my device :fingers-crossed:
Thank you!!!
Does this happen to be a pendoo model? I have a pendoo x10 MAX and i actually simply just installed supersu while it was rooted. Since then, I haven't gotten this thing to boot. Just stays on the boot screen the entire way. I wiped in recovery, knew that'd do nothing. I just wanted a root MANAGER. I tried Magisk, my favorite.. no go.. so then I went a bit old school.. so I tried ChainFire's SuperSU.. and THAT updated the SU binary! It said it succeeded.. it asked to do recovery install or normal install.. on phones, I've always done normal.. so I chose normal. Plus.. this thing has no custom recovery. I found it on Amazon. Overpriced, but great with the controller it had. It looks like I'll need a replacement and maybe a request to ask this guy if he could possibly NOT use something like KingRoot/KingoRoot/AmaraRoot or ANY One click root tool.. they just cause more bloatware, inciting boot issues and problems within the Android box itself. These One Click Root tools are out of control. It's to the point where I need to find a way in to adb and find the firmware for the latest version of this thing... X10Max from Pendoo.. I have not found a thing anywhere regarding firmware, and their website is ****. NOTHING *anywhere* on these things.. hell I'm about to return it as I bought it for $72. I have another one, same model.. wondering if the root method was different. About to boot that up and find out. I'll even swap the board. At this point.. he rooted it.. the WRONG way.. you can MOUNT THE /SYSTEM PARTITION IN RECOVERY. THIS IS ANDROID 9 we're talking about--the recovery supported by API v3.
This can and should have a TWRP custom recovery. If none exists, don't bother. As long as you can mount /system then you have a chance, at least, to root the damn thing.. which is why I'm still messing with it. I have another two weeks to return it. I'll give it another couple of days before I call it off and just switch out the good board for the bad one, return it, then return the other one and just use it until I find a way to use a custom recovery on this thing. There has to be.. unless there is no firmware available in sight (for an RK3318 or 3328, can't tell.. recovery mode says 3328, model name says RK3318. I see no difference at the moment aside from processor naming at this point--maybe speed?)
I'm still a nub with Android TV boxes so don't hold it against me for updating the damn root binary. If I could find a way to just reinstall the entire firmware and delete all previous stuff, I would. It would be worth it to learn. I would then mount /system in recovery and soldier on.
One little issue with this thing.. there's only one USB port that actually works. Same applies for the same exact product, a replication of the same thing.. was a "replacement" that still have/has the same qualities.
I've ranted enough. I vote more research into RK33xx processors and possible custom recoveries. I'm about to look for it based on only the device itself.
Note: Been stuck at boot screen ever since the binary was updated. I felt it was necessary to have a boot manager. I don't know where to even find the firmware. Can.. anyone point me in any direction? Something that MIGHT work on this thing? Android 6 or 7 would even suffice, return or no return, as "stuck on boot screen" will be my complaint. That's.. the actual complaint. I can't just *flash it* like the old days.. and maybe the original Android 9.0 firmware would suffice.. I don't know, but Pendoo.. wouldn't that be preferred?
You will need an SDcard to recover this box. I think the T9 32GB 4GB rom will do the job since its a cut down version.
Make a update SDcard and pop it in and power on the box. It will start the recovery on its own.
hello, sorry for my English I live in France I would have a question about the box: TV T9 RK3318, 4gb / 64gb. the problem is that the time is desynchronized on restart and creates problems to connect to applications when the time is out of order, I tried everything changed the time zone to deactivate and entered the time Manual it goes out of order all the time . is there a custom version or a version 10?
Very cook did I checked this out awhile back alot of good information that's for your contribution
I recently bought Asus Zenfone, because here in Ukraine is war, so I want small device with Windows (electricity often is off here because rockets fall on our electrric infrastructure etc).
So I've bought Asus Zenfone 2 used (it costed 16,25$). It came without accumulator, and 1/3 screen working. So I went to radio-market to buy new battery, it costed + ~10.25$ + 2,5$ to install battery. Then I've bought new touchscreen for it for ~22,5$, plus payed ~6,25$ to install it. Then around 7,5$ to restore battery connectors (on device and accumulator). So finally it worked, and wanted to see how to install Windows on Zenfone. Sure, if I had possibility to buy anywhere Zenfone better, new, not used, - I'ld do it, but it is not that easily available, just like any other Intel smartphone.
So, I started reading - how to make my device rooted. I don't understand how to get root. I found on wikipedia, that rooting is different from unlocking bootloader, and realized - yes. I need to unlock bootloader, and to boot from external flash-disk and install windows, or at least - new kernel with KVM support. I used pn my Android (non intel) Limbo x86 emulator, it can run some old windows 98 etc, maybe even xp, never win 2000, and if it runs win-7 or win-8 - it is so terribly slow. So I decided to buy Asus Zenfone. As in KVM mode I can send commands to CPU directly, and hope this Windows works much faster than in emulator. I hope just at least to run Windows XP on it, I need to code some C# code, so that Andorid phone is not only for mp3-playing, internet on the go and make calls, but to learn, study and to work. I don't know why Microsot, Intel and other companies don't like Intel CPUs in mobiles. They could do it if they wanted. I like WIndows because most programs are for Windows. And I want desktop x86 windows also on every mobile, intead of all Androids.
Anyway, What I tried to with my Zenfone. I found one amazing experience - that our hero and inspirer (ley God blesses him, maybe he will work in Intel/AMD/Asus/Microsoft etc to make more newer KVM kernels for future x86 phones with windows) - so Ycavan made KVM for Asus Zenfone 2. Great, I've read his thread - https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...0-with-kvm-bridge-compiled-need-help.3145055/ - completely, with pen and paper writing down important information, downloaded all the files, and decided to start flashing.
I copied them to root of my Zenfone, unpacked tars and converted them into ZIPs. I also unpacked .img files to root of phone (I mean its folder which is visible if I connect it thorught USB, I know it is not "/" root of file system of Andoird, but anyway it is visible even inside CWM... sorry, was visible)...
So, I made some mistakes. I downloaded the kernel, tried to flash it using commands like :
fastboot flash boot boot_fhd_2.19_kvm_bridge_20150710.img
fastboot flash boot boot_fhd_2.19_kvm_bridge_20150714.img
fastboot flash boot boot_fhd_2.19_kvm_bridge_20150717.img
fastboot flash boot boot_fhd_2.20_kvm_bridge_20150820.img
fastboot flash boot boot_2.19_kvm_bridge.img
fastboot flash boot boot_fhd_2.20_kvm_bridge_20150820.img
but non of them produced bootable Zenfone. So I had to revert to previous bootloader using the CWM tool.
In fact I liked this CWM most. I found this thread - https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...root-ze500-ze550-ze551-temporary-cwm.3114063/
or similar here on forum, and it worked amazingly. I attached Zen-phone to USB, turned it off, then on while pressing, keeping pressed volume-up key, and after Asus logo appeared and some "zzz" vibration, again it blinked and I saw bootloader with Android robot, and possibility to scroll through menu using volume up-down, to choose normal boot, or reboot/power off, or to run restore etc.
For some reason, Restore there not worked. So anyway, I understood that I can use tool like ADB (Android debug bridge) and fastboot to copy new firmwares/kernels/bootloaders etc to it, so I guessed I can do it myself, and was ready for risks... And this what bad can happen - it happened.
So, I runned in CWM - file cai_dat_CWM.bat - which asked to type ACCEPT and then T4, and phone started to go into amazing mode, some "clouds" started appearing on phone, and it loaded into special secret menu, from which I could select what to do next. To me it looked like default boot manager which I wanted to see like in Dos/Windows machines - so I can choose to run into safe mode windows, or set some settings before booting, or even use "reanimator dvd" etc to load Windows and other tools to do partitioning, passwrods recovery etc. So it looked like on desktops, and very nice. I went inside the menu, and found good option to make backup. I did it all. Then in same CWM tool (I think it is called SuperSU for Android), I finally choose to restore bootloader/kernel/boot (custom recovery), and this saved my from bricking the first time after I followed the manual from Ycavan. Well, I know I can read a lot more threads how to do this and that, but there is always risk that something wrong can happen. So I tried to read as much as I could, and follow manuals as precisely as I could understand. But my phone is kind of "bricked".
Now it shows some scfreen like TV which can't catch any tv program. So it is some random colors - see attached picture. It is good that it shows at least this. But in worse situation - it doesn't show anything. So let me tell how I achieved this, and if you can tell me how to avoid this mistake and to recover it. I hope to get help from anyone here who installed KVM kernel(s) and acheieved running Windows on their zenfone 2 (or maybe anyone who has XPerience with other x86 phones may help, or if it is general issue how to unbrick - then also non x86 users please help).
So, CWM made backup, I became more non-scared to make more experiments with firmware. But main problem is that I don't know which firmware to use. I ideally suggested that when I change kernel to KVM-supported from Ycavan - that it will work with my Andorid 5.0 (it was installed when I bought it). So, but unfortunately, after installing any of KVM kernels of Ycavan - I was unable to understand which OS to install, which version. So even I tried to try to flash whole 1GB+ image (I have downloaded UL-Z00A-WW-2.20.40.59-user.zip from official asus.com - https://www.asus.com/ua-ua/supportonly/asus zenfone 2 (ze551ml)/helpdesk_bios/ - but. I was unable to upload it to zenfone (flash it), as it said it is older than installed version.
Anyway, now it doesn't matter as I cannot run into ANdroid at all. Worse - I cannot even get Bootloader working in Android, as I see after turning phone on - only "white screen" with non-working TV-like image (see attached picture of my Zenfone 2).
So, to make this happen, I did this: I found some information about TWRP. I tried to install as recovery tool. Even though it was flashed into mobile, and I installed it from apk from Google-Play, still, I was unable to run it... So then I found even cooler tool - which was too risky to install. I was good, but Andorid stopped running at all.
This tool is called - preroot601. I runned in it preroot.bat, and then it did something similar to CWM, but several times it restartd the phone _ i have added screenshots of how it looked like on PC / Windows. So after several restarts, it did a lot of changes - Android didn't start after it. Phone always was able to start into recovery mode - into TWRP (I downloaded its .img and flased it as recovery for phone). But in TWRP I think I did something wrong. I made backup of all files (syste,, bootloader, everything). I saw it is cool - to see there terminal, ability so set attributes for files, mount partitions ... even USB -hey, can I run from flash-disk? or from external DVD/Bluray which I have in this mode? I have USB-hub, and can connect to it keyboard, mouse, flash-usb, ssd/hdd - all through Microusb-usb adapter and to usb-hub. So what I wanted to do is to try to see flash-disk, mount it on my android zenfone. And then after restart - I had black screen or this 'non-working analog-TV screen when no program/channel/wave is caught for signal"...
So, I don't even understand what I did, and why this all happened, and why I have to do to restore bootloader at least.
My aim is to have KVM enabled in the kernel. I don't mind if it is old Windows like XP working on this Zenfone, but I like windows to be my main OS on every phone which I may use in future (and hope they all be x86-64 and not ARM). So as I don't have Steamdect now (it has also AMD x86 CPU, like Zenfone), I want to do this, achieve it - having Windows on mobile - Zenfone.
I can carry it in pocket everywhere, so why not people like having desktop Windows x86-64 in each and every mobile? Even Lenovo are collaborating with IBM - then why not make also IBM-Mobile / IBM-smartphone, which will also be as good as PC - to unassemble it, change any part like on desktop, why not do it? I think everyone will enjoy it, and it will boost everything to better hights, levels.
So, please. If anyone here has similar experience of going to same screen like I have (see screenshot), or like that - black screen - indeed my device also may not even show any thing - even no ASUS logo, no bootloader (even if I press Volume-UP after powering and after flash it usually showed bootloader with robot - no... not now)...
So I don't see anything on screen of Android Zenfone now. no text, no bootloader, no recovery even - no TWRP menu. I think I am ready to format whole zenfone, and install there maybe some partition manager (like you know there is Partition magic on PCs, when I can split HDD/SSD nto two parts, one for Windows, and say other for Unix - Ubuntu or Android x 86 - all on same physical drive)... So I want some re-partitioning for intern SD memory, and be able to install there some ISOs, say with DOS, Win3.11, win 95, 98, 2000, xp, 7, 8,1 and maybe even 10. But guess last will be slow. I think Windows XP would be ideal OS for my Zenfone, if it can run fast. Win 7/8 maybe will be slow. But for some sceintific aims - like I just write some algorythm in Visual studio, and can do it even in WinXP, so why don't do it on my Zenfone? I don't like many Andorids, as they are not for work much - they are used by many people to play games, watch videos on phones, surf social networks, but not for real work. Real work is usually on WIndows, and no laptop can replace "Windows x86 in pocket" (on mobile). And I wonder why Microsoft develops "Windows for ARM" instead of investing millions into efforts like which Ycavan did - to make Windows run in KVM mode fast on x86 smartphones.
Ok, So, any ideas? What should I do now? I need some special tool to fix my phone first. Fix its loader. I think I need to bypass fastboot.exe restriction, which shows "waiting for device". Command in cmd like this: ADB.exe devices -L --- shows device from time to time - it shows:
c:\adb>adb devices -l
List of devices attached
0123456789ABCDEF device
c:\adb>fastboot flash boot boot_2.19_kvm_bridge.img
< waiting for device >
So, I cannot even flash some recovery device in this way. In devices manager I see "ADB interface" in "USB devices" category in devices treeview. And sometimes Moorefield appears, but with exclaimation mark - I have no idea how to make it disappear. I found here some info that I can install tool - xFSTK_Downloader_v1.7.0.zip - I downloaded it, installe,d but it doesn't run (I have win10 x64bit). hm... And driver required - iSOC_USB_Driver_Setup_v1.2.0.zip - I installed - but nothing.
So, what to do? How to make bootloader appear again? And how to write there prob=per bootloader with KVM kernel, and which firmware to flash so I can use KVM fast there with fast Windows...? Is it possible at all to make it run WIndows natively on Zenfone? or it will always be only in virtual machine inside some ArchLinux or in Limbo x86 on Android?
I read that Ycavan used this ArchLinux, but I don't understand why. Is he installing it over Android? Then also which version he uses? I need to know each and every version whcih he uses to make everything works. I 'ld require all the firmwares which he uses to make it work also - to make some Windows iso run on my Zenfone 2.
Did anyone achieved this successfully, except for Ycavan - to run Windows on Zenfone? Or except for him noone was able to install KVM kernel, and it was similar to mine situation? And maybe this is the reason why manufacturers of phons don't like x86 phones? I don't know. Any ideas?
See screenshots. What to do in this state?
IF anyone can please upload to somewhere whole pack of files ("WIndows on Zenfone starter kit") to make anyone able to just follow instaructions which will work in all cases to install WIndows there like Ycavan has - it would be great. There is lack of more detailed information - which .img files, .zips, firmwares etc, which OSes are supported by Ycavan's KVM kernels?
I have no idea. if anyone passed this path, and achieved Windows on Zenfone, please share your experiences, Ireally need it. Here in Ukraine when electricity disappears almost daily, we need devices like x86 phones almost for everyone. And mo matter if Windows is a bit old. KVM mode I guess must be much faster, almost native speed, so (like on tablet PCs), so please help...
Thank you all in advance, whoever will answer me.
indubhushan said:
c:\adb>adb devices -l
List of devices attached
0123456789ABCDEF device
c:\adb>fastboot flash boot boot_2.19_kvm_bridge.img
< waiting for device >
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
wrong mode. adb is only working in
- normal/boot mode
- recovery mode
fastboot is only working in
- bootloader mode
- fastboot mode
You can see 0123456789ABCDEF device in adb devices, therefore you are either in TWRP or in Android (Win?)
type adb shell and check the prompt is either $ (shell) or # (root shell)
in root shell you can flash partitions from cmd line. you can also reboot into bootloader/fastboot mode from cmd line.
Code:
adb reboot bootloader
I had success in restoring my bootloader (logo with android robot) - I intalled xFSTK, so somehow I had success to make it run, and I added threee files (1, 2, and 4th) and tried to flash it. Phone was visible as Moorefield. Then I tried to use Asus flash tool to flash big RAW image, but for some reason I don't know why - I had even whole day left it to flash, it didn't do the task - Android stopped booting - no logo showing at all - have to use xFSTK to recover. Maybe I use wrong RAW image (from official site it is .zip, so have no idea where to get those raw files).
When try to flash using flashboot - I get error: - flash cmd error.
As for devices list. My device rarely appear there. It may appear for some seconds, and then xfstk can have success to flash it, and maybe even make it runnable into Android robot scren (bootloader).
I am thinking that I need to install maybe ArchLinux, which Ycavan is using, but have no idea where to get RAW file for it, and how to flash it. Maybe some problem with my USB port on old laptop, or maybe even with USB cable (though have few good almost new cables, even new 4Amperes one). So maybe even problem in port of Zenfone itself (to change it). No idea. Because even when I tried to flash it (that huge 1GB file), phone disconnected, or showed "ready for commands", instead of showing process of ownloading RAW image/Android into phone's memory.
Flashboot/adb almost unusable. Well, I'll try, maybe it'll work.
My hope is try to go into CWM, run from it into "secret menu" on phone, and from it - to access internal memory of phone, and restore phone from backup. But when I tried to load into it once - it hanged on "clouds". I don't know...
And I don't think I'm ready now to format internal memory of phone or to repartition. At least I don't have backup on some external card (sd-card) etc.
as for adb. maybe it can't see my device, even if it is "recovery mode" (when see in devices manager in Windows - Moorefield). Now I'm stuck on xFSTK and can't go anywhere further like adding TWRP into phone, or foing into backup/restore menu on phone, and of course there is no Android. Even when I see Android robot (boot menu) - I feel happy, that at least phone shows anything, so at least bootloader workds. Maybe difference is in drivers - when I have Moorefield driver, then maybe it contradicts with Zenfone driver, and I have to reinstall them? Or use other OS? I have dual-boot (two Windowses on my laptop), so maybe I need to use one Windows - to work with Moorefield (xfstk) - when phone is in "worst" situation when no logo shows / no bootloader. And the other Windows I have to run on laptop - with Zenfone driver installed (I think it shows something like Asus device in device manager). But they seem to use contradicting drivers, I am not sure. And maybe it's some problem with my usb ports, but hope no. They seem to be ok... Maybe I'll have to go some day to give phone for diagnostics to repairing center again ;-(